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I wanted to know how playing is on the Sony Tablet S1. Please answer quick
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I wanted to know how playing is on the Sony Tablet S1. Please answer quick
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As far as what? Playstation games? Its fine the controls Crash and Pinball work real well. If you mean regular android games they work great too
Performance is acceptable.
Gaming is decent. Comparable to other android tablets, however I feel as if gaming in general is slower compared to comparative models.
In my experience Ipad2 is better at gaming, tab 10.1 is better and Jetstream is better (which is surprising).
But overall... gaming is acceptable.
Can I connect a gaming controller to the Tablet S?
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Okay. Im buying one when Ive had my Birthday
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I connected my USB Adapter + Logitech Gamepad, works in the PS Games, Market games seem hit or miss.
To me this is a Tablet first, a simple device for browsing the web, reading emails and running simple small programs. Gaming is just a bonus, I find it fine for simple games but if it's a real concern you should be looking at a dedicated platform or a gaming PC.
soultics said:
I connected my USB Adapter + Logitech Gamepad, works in the PS Games, Market games seem hit or miss.
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That is cool
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Hi,
Posted a video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4-4an7be-Q
wickwire said:
Hi,
Posted a video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4-4an7be-Q
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ugh so laggy
Maedhros said:
ugh so laggy
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Uhm guys... just noticed something weird - Maedhros, please let me know if this is the lag you mention:
Playing my youtube link on the sony tablet gets really laggy / skipping whole video sections if I play it in a Browser tab!
But then it works just fine if I choose to play it directly in the youtube app!
I haven't chosen a default app to play youtube videos yet, so there's a prompt for me choose...!
Can anyone else on 3.2 confirm this, please?
wickwire said:
Uhm guys... just noticed something weird - Maedhros, please let me know if this is the lag you mention:
Playing my youtube link on the sony tablet gets really laggy / skipping whole video sections if I play it in a Browser tab!
But then it works just fine if I choose to play it directly in the youtube app!
I haven't chosen a default app to play youtube videos yet, so there's a prompt for me choose...!
Can anyone else on 3.2 confirm this, please?
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Hmm... yea ur right this is what happens to me. I hadn't realized that the youtube player app was fine.
In the browser it isn't as good as the app.
wickwire said:
Uhm guys... just noticed something weird - Maedhros, please let me know if this is the lag you mention:
Playing my youtube link on the sony tablet gets really laggy / skipping whole video sections if I play it in a Browser tab!
But then it works just fine if I choose to play it directly in the youtube app!
I haven't chosen a default app to play youtube videos yet, so there's a prompt for me choose...!
Can anyone else on 3.2 confirm this, please?
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I can confirm this on both Tablet S and Galaxy Tab 10.1, did a research and found out that it's Tegra 2 processor issue
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Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet
Have had nothing but trouble with it.
Honestly, no reason at all to pick up this tablet over the Jetstream
I was disappointed by the Xperia phones and now by this tablet. Last time I purchase any Sony mobile devices.
Maedhros said:
Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet
Have had nothing but trouble with it.
Honestly, no reason at all to pick up this tablet over the Jetstream
I was disappointed by the Xperia phones and now by this tablet. Last time I purchase any Sony mobile devices.
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This thread seems to indicate otherwise, as it is likely to have its fair share of issues as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281420
Regardless, the issue noted with youtube here derives from not using the proper tool, when available.
Either way, good luck with it, hope it works better than the Sony for you on all counts!
Maedhros said:
Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet
Have had nothing but trouble with it.
Honestly, no reason at all to pick up this tablet over the Jetstream
I was disappointed by the Xperia phones and now by this tablet. Last time I purchase any Sony mobile devices.
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Dude you are literally staring to spam this board and thus starting to get annoying. If you got rid of your tablet S then great, bye bye. To say "Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet " is beyond idiotic. It is general consensus that the Tablet is is easily one of the best Android tablets out right now. It is also arguably more functional, useful and robust that an iPad with its severely outdated OS. To mention the Jetstream is just an insult. Battery life is fine. The video playback issues you had are EASILY fixed by downloading a proper video player with a codec off the market. I was skeptical when purchasing this tablet but have had no "issues" at all with it that are not related to the bugginess of honeycomb. None.
While we wait for the Xperia U to have its own forum, we can do like the P guys and burglarize the Xperia S thread for a while.
The phone has picked some serious steam in Spain, because one carrier has launched a very aggressive campaign of phone subsidies which actually makes this phone free if you pay a 24 month contract which amounts to 10 dollars per month. With that subsidy, the subsidized phone costs actually less in the long run than the sim-unlocked one. Given that it totally destroys the likes of Oprimus L3, Galaxy Ace and other low end phones, it's flying from the shelves. In my case, I'm trading my Sensation with one of those phones. It's a pity, as I won't be able to run custom firmware or anything, but I think the trade off is acceptable.
I've read in a Chinese forum that the way to get in Flash mode is by keeping pressed VolDown while connecting the device to the computer. The latest Flashtool seems to recognize it. Once I get the phone I'll try to make an FTF file with whatever comes out of SEUS.
Is there anyone else with the phone who wishes to speak their wisdom?
Swypesation
My opinion
Had a play with both the P and U the other day and can safely say I made right choice with the S. Yes fastboot or flash mode is either hold vol up or down. The u looks ok and is a nice size ( looks like a mobile disco ) but the lag is horrid, why Sony did you use nova. And the P is so close to the S (size, looks) but yet so far away from the standard and specs (like getting the car you want but getting the cheapest package without aircon or electric windows). All I can say is good luck and hope you don't miss your Xperia play to much @logseman
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_u-4437.php
Is this a joke or the xperia U has 4GB storage with no memory card?????????
We should not moan about the specs of the U, it's a low end device meant for people who want just a messaging phone with access to applications.
Not everyone has the need for the high end speced out phones you know.
Gingerbread is the only real drawback of the phone. It's tired and needs to be retired.
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Gambler_3 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_u-4437.php
Is this a joke or the xperia U has 4GB storage with no memory card?????????
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Lol,unfortunately that is true. Don't know how Sony missed out on this when it came to the U..
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poo-tang said:
My opinion
Had a play with both the P and U the other day and can safely say I made right choice with the S. Yes fastboot or flash mode is either hold vol up or down. The u looks ok and is a nice size ( looks like a mobile disco ) but the lag is horrid, why Sony did you use nova. And the P is so close to the S (size, looks) but yet so far away from the standard and specs (like getting the car you want but getting the cheapest package without aircon or electric windows). All I can say is good luck and hope you don't miss your Xperia play to much @logseman
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While the MWC videos are not as dramatic as you're portraying, lag is not a huge issue for me anymore, as I won't be playing many games on this fellow.
Thanks for the good wishes. I hope I'll be able to contribute a little bit here as I did in the Play forum
The phone does have 4 GB of accessible storage. It's the way Sony has to tell you "Buy the P". I'm not too bothered as we have a roomy system partition unlike in the Xperia Play.
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Isn't the U supposed to be getting an ICS update as well? Is it as bad as you guys are saying it is?
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karthiknr said:
Isn't the U supposed to be getting an ICS update as well? Is it as bad as you guys are saying it is?
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The U will be getting ICS. The videos I've seen were convincing for me, and people have not complained about lag where I'm reading reports. It's true that GB is a let down, and I hope ICS will unleash the phone's real power.
You see, I just am not comfortable with the Sensation, it's nice but it heats way too much and the battery life is crud. This little feller should hold the line a wee bit longer.
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We should not moan about the specs of the U, it's a low end device meant for people who want just a messaging phone with access to applications.
Not everyone has the need for the high end speced out phones you know.
Gingerbread is the only real drawback of the phone. It's tired and needs to be retired.
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Actually the xperia U just goes to show that sony has lost any business sense. Why would someone who wants a messaging phone with access to applications buy a dual core phone anyways? A single core phone with a bigger screen would actually be a better phone for that purpose.
Imagine people buying this phone without looking up it's specs, it's gonna happen and it's only gonna hurt the sony brand. And quite frankly cant blame people for that, I really wouldnt ever expect such a ridiculous limitation in a phone like this.
@ALL: It's actually 8GB, with at least (sic!) 4GB available to the user.
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@ALL: It's actually 8GB, with at least (sic!) 4GB available to the user.
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That is still a big let-down.
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Poor marketing choice indeed. I am personally a Sony fan now but can't help noticing that the Japanese don't really have a good business sense. 16GB is also a limitation but only some people will be irked by that and the rest of the public will be fine with it. 8GB is unacceptable but 4GB is simply intolerable. Everyone who has a decent music collection will run out of space too quick. I am personally in favour of making the phone thicker and giving a bit more additional internal storage space, removable battery and a microSD card slot
Even my x8 got memory slot...
Wow Sony u begin to s8ck...
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I am not gonna say anything about the 4GB memory "disaster"
@XU owners
Can anyone of you post camera samples ? Wanna see how good the camera is. Have read good things about the camera in most places.
Can the dual core processor handle games well on the SXU?
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I don't see why not. Mali 400 MP GPU on the XU is plenty powerful. Almost as powerful as the Adreno 220 on our XS Plus it has to deal with a lower screen resolution (FWVGA)
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Can the dual core processor handle games well on the SXU?
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I've had a chance to play with a demo unit yesterday. Runs nice, no UI lag, really fast and 6GB of storage. For the price it's one hell of a phone.
well im a proud owner of one
good camera, decent quality...perfect for a quick snap....
great video recording...very nice 720p videos...
no lags what so ever....ui is fine...
VERY GOOD 3d performance..... both psx emulators and n64 emulators work at a steady 50-60fps on both with graphics intensive roms...(spiderman, mario 64,revolt)
gta 3 runs flawlessly with zero lags...
quadrant scores it above the galaxy nexus.
good sound quality, decently loud speakers.
battery lasts 1.5 days with some 3d gaming and browsing and music.
u can get an xperia s battery for it (same battery model)...even 1900mah batteries are available one ebay.com (model: ba600)
total 8gb internal storage. 4gb user-accessable, 2gb for android, 2gb for apps.
usb otg works great...tried my joystick on it
looks sexy!
i thinks its perfect in every way...for its price range atleast.
only thing is storage. but i plan to keep my music and movies in a pendrive, and carry it with me...and plug it in when i need to...sounds convenient actualy
other than that it blows its competitors out of the water!
trust me worth buying...
the only thing it needs is root....anyone willing to help me root it?
unreal3000 said:
well im a proud owner of one
good camera, decent quality...perfect for a quick snap....
great video recording...very nice 720p videos...
no lags what so ever....ui is fine...
VERY GOOD 3d performance..... both psx emulators and n64 emulators work at a steady 50-60fps on both with graphics intensive roms...(spiderman, mario 64,revolt)
gta 3 runs flawlessly with zero lags...
quadrant scores it above the galaxy nexus.
good sound quality, decently loud speakers.
battery lasts 1.5 days with some 3d gaming and browsing and music.
u can get an xperia s battery for it (same battery model)...even 1900mah batteries are available one ebay.com (model: ba600)
total 8gb internal storage. 4gb user-accessable, 2gb for android, 2gb for apps.
usb otg works great...tried my joystick on it
looks sexy!
i thinks its perfect in every way...for its price range atleast.
only thing is storage. but i plan to keep my music and movies in a pendrive, and carry it with me...and plug it in when i need to...sounds convenient actualy
other than that it blows its competitors out of the water!
trust me worth buying...
the only thing it needs is root....anyone willing to help me root it?
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Nice to hear this and what others are saying.. Looks like ill have to purchase one.. Very good for the price I suppose..
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My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Mate same here. I have also lock ups with some apps like messaging and browser as well. Tsk!
bam88 said:
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Go into settings, accessibility and use the process manager. Use it and see if you still have the problem. Chances are that it maybe ram or software.
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One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
There is a simple rule in computing - more memory (more resources of any kind) never hurt. Yes, people can quote all the articles they want about mobile OS's not needing that much ram, but -
- Android is not nearly as optimized as WP7/iOS
- Android likes to keep more apps open, it was designed to multitask
- over the next 2 years, memory demands will increase. Every version of Android uses more ram
Trust me, you won't see any high end Android phones with less than 1.5GB ram very soon.
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
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You speak the truth.
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rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I think they like selling more phones more regularly
rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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How would they make money from mobile sales if you didn't "need" to buy their new phone in 6 months?
EVERY phone company would be thinking about their next model months before the latest phone has even hit the shelves.
They give you what you need not what you will need
They should develop 'virtual memory' like in windows and make use of the 16gb,
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One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
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rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
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I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
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Same thing is happening to Galaxy S III as well! Not a dealbreaker, but still bothers me a bit. The thing is, I don't remember this happening to my Galaxy S II.
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
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and all should be good.
Don't forget to reboot afterwards, otherwise the setting won't be applied.
my S2 hang when open game that use feint.. i think i doesn't support so many app to be open frequently.. or maybe i used gb4.03 and used so many flash app
Guys I'm facing the same problem. When I received my new phone, it was working beautifully. During the next 2-3 days, I tired using all the features and apps like drop box, ChatOn, S Voice, Voice cmds and all other frills. Then I downloaded few apps like Ultra Keyboard, SwiftKeyboard Trial, Ex Dialer, Dolphin Browser HD. Done some heavy surfing, downloaded mails and stuff like that and my phone started to lag heavily. TouchWiz started to redraw every time. Then I had a look at the available RAM. First of all it was only 780 out of 1GB and then free was only 23 MB. Then I looked into the list of cached processes and it was a long list. I restarted my phone, disabled most of the apps, downloaded Apex launcher, set the debugging option to limit background processes to 4 and my RAM is normally around 150-200 MB free. But I can see that it is depleting. Also on the Apex launcher, it happened that while returning from my G Talk, then screen went black for almost 5-7 seconds as if the phone froze. But it came out. I re-checked the memory and it was around 158MB. So I don't know why this happened but it is frustrating to have a top notch device and this kind of experience. Any suggestions?
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I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
Tectas said:
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
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I was just about to type the exact same thing. I'm in the process of trying it out, seems to be working.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
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That makes no ****ing sense.
(I only "thanked" you by accident. If I could unthank you twice and leave you at -1 I would)
gSorry for opening a new thread and spammimg guys but i need your help...I own n Xperia Mini (st15i) and i want to sell that and buy Xperia U (st25i)....is this change worth? Shall i go for this phone or better wait? In addition, if someone could mention problems of Xperia U that has seen/heared/experienced , would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
If memory problem doesn't affect your need than no doubt you should go for it otherwise wise Xperia j or if you want to add more money than sola
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I suggests don't buy XU,memory so freaking small space,no micro sd support
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It's a great phone, only paid £130 sim-free for mine in the UK; but the memory is small (512Mb). I just upgraded to ICS and rooted, and despite spending a couple of days fiddling around to reduce ram-hungry apps and processes, the dialer will occasionally crash when I try and use it, due to lack of available RAM. I am going to have to strip down even more apps and widgets to make it reliable. On Gingerbread I had the same number of apps and widgets and there were less problems. So if you are going to hang on to your next phone for a while, I would suggest waiting for a phone with 1Gb+ of memory.
I dont have any but any problems from day one,no.crashes.and wifi tetherimg always.worked,using my country costomized rom heres after 24 h phone usage ram,no killing or whatever.
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benny145 said:
It's a great phone, only paid £130 sim-free for mine in the UK; but the memory is small (512Mb). I just upgraded to ICS and rooted, and despite spending a couple of days fiddling around to reduce ram-hungry apps and processes, the dialer will occasionally crash when I try and use it, due to lack of available RAM. I am going to have to strip down even more apps and widgets to make it reliable. On Gingerbread I had the same number of apps and widgets and there were less problems. So if you are going to hang on to your next phone for a while, I would suggest waiting for a phone with 1Gb+ of memory.
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I think its better for u to limit running apps in the developers setting.
Should work fine
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there are specific set of people which would be even more than happy with Xperia U. these are the normal, general, non-power users upgrading from a dumbphone, or even smartphone owners before 2011.
from their old unit, they can now experience android and the apps it offers. with even better than usable single cores out there, they even get dual core CPU power, to browse the net, take and view pictures, internet messaging via whatsapp/imo, skype video calls, socialize in facebook/twitter, watch youtube, email, create short notes on notes applications, and many other useful tasks... all rendered in a bravia screen with high density of pixels which is very sharp and beautiful. the transparent color changing bar is another attractive feature which sets it apart from other phones which generally, all look alike.
the only thing not possible here would be the things that require storage, like local movie watching and to some extent music collection playing.
any other else, its as good as whatever phones out there.
with the expertise of the devs here in xda, who knows what more it can do.
thanks darth5zaft, I've tried that before but then gave it another shot after reading your post - but I still get lags and freezes when I have an app open and a call, or an sms comes through, everything slows down. So I've gone back now to using Auto Memory Manager off the Play Store, which might be doing the same sort of thing but I haven't had any slow-downs or lags over the last 24 hours, everything is zippy and I can't see the battery draining any faster
I agree, this phone does most of what a more expensive phone would do - I originally bought it just to replace the Nexus S I had which crapped out, with the plan being to upgrade at the end of that two year contract next March, but I will probably keep it a bit longer now that its set up nicely, there's little else I'm missing really.
Go for xperia u
U will luv it
Nice looks
Dual core
Plays hd games smoothly
Decent battery ( after. 54 fw )
And superb pricing
And regarding lagging
Almost all phones on stock fw lags
Even my father's galaxy note lags sometimes
So if u want to buy a decent budget android smartphone wid power bt limited space go for xperia u
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the big problem for me was the lack of sd
Guys, i really THANK you ALL! thanks for support....thanks for answers, and everything...i have only one more question...usb otg( micro usb to usb B female) supports an 8GB card? I would LOVE it, if someone answered me! i have decided to buy that phone...but if it doesn't support an an 8GB card with usb otg cable or adapter i WON'T!
And again, thanks!
kwstas 13 said:
Guys, i really THANK you ALL! thanks for support....thanks for answers, and everything...i have only one more question...usb otg( micro usb to usb B female) supports an 8GB card? I would LOVE it, if someone answered me! i have decided to buy that phone...but if it doesn't support an an 8GB card with usb otg cable or adapter i WON'T!
And again, thanks!
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I use my 16gb sandisk, its low power drain so works fine.
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I use my 16gb sandisk, its low power drain so works fine.
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Really?! Oh, thanks! I think i'm.going for this phone soon enough!
Thank you all guys! You are awesome
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the big problem for me was the lack of sd
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Usb otg is present
I love U(Xperia)
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
rohan_avni said:
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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It's not due to the bloatware. It's actually a problem with ICS and jellybean. They just use more ram than the older versions of android. For example, my old galaxy s could multitask amazingly well on froyo 2.2.1 but not as well on gingerbread and worse on cm10. Similarly, your lg optimus was probably on froyo of gingerbread, which inherently use less ram. Even if you disabled all the s3's bloatware, you'd only get a minor increase in multitasking capabilities. In order to multitask well on ICS or jb, you'd need 2gb of ram. Hopefully, android 5.0 will optimise ram usage and make multitasking better on 1gb ram phones.
DeadSOL said:
Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
Yup my op net is on gingerbread 2.3.4 hope that 5.0 will resolve this issue. How u ppl managing this?? Even while using xda app I just pressed home button to check new sms and in background sonsgs also playing. After replying to sms I tap on xda app and guess what it reloads. I have to find whole way to this thread.
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rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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Uhh!!
No. Nobody would bash you for this post.
Unless you spam the forum.
I was almost bashed for that yesterday..
LOL
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
yahyoh said:
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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I tried 4.2 leak and Samsung improved memory management on it but that leak has it's own share of bugs and I'm back on 4.1 better to wait for new leak or final product.
rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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No, no; I wouldn't bash you for this. The multitasking issue is a big thing and has been present for a long time. For example, look at my review post and look at the list of negatives: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37700176&postcount=9061
Multitasking really, really sucks on the S3! Samsung have done an awful job.
I really hope Google can fix two major things on the next iteration of Android's OS;
1) Better RAM management (which would improve multitasking and load)
2) Giving us cloud storage for game data (it would be a huge help for those people who wipe or switch ROMs)
Hmmm really hoping that sammy will fix this annoying issue asap. I dnt want to root and install custome rom just nw. I can experiment with these things on my old lg. Its on jb cm 10 already but camera not working. But my s3 is new so will use it stock. Also afraid of sds.
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Nice review mate. :thumbup:
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Well no doubt multitasking sucks on s3. I guess it's not due to jelly bean. My friend's s2 works great on jelly bean and multitasking is great on it. I guess the problem is on software side of s3. 1gb ram its more than enough for handling phones like s3.
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This has been discussed plenty and you're right, it's one of the s3's biggest flaws. The only obvious solution is the only one you can't really do - add ram. That or, you know, hope samsung takes his head out of his ass and actually fixes this since it's rather shameful, but I won't be holding my breath.
But there are workarounds, even if not perfect:
- you can use a custom aosp based rom. There're plenty to chose from. Although i haven't tried how their memory management is better than stock's many people report it is. And they usually use much less ram too and that also helps. The bad side is, since samsung didn't really deliever on the sources they promissed, any aosp rom for the s3 isn't as optimized as it could be. This translates in worse battery life, somewhat more lag than expected, aparently worse camera (from what i heard) that stock stuff... Some people don't even notice other can't live with that - up to you.
- use swap. by installing a swap-enabled kernel you're able to multitask more. This isn't the same as adding ram although it's probably as close as it gets functionality wise. What you're doing is creating a file on either the internal or the external sd that will help with your poor ram managing.
You can get more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging if you're ineterested how stuff works. There's also plenty of info on such kernels on the "original development" thread.
There are prices to be paid though, internal and external sd's are never as fast as ram, so you'll probably feel your phone slower overall, even more if you use the external sd which is known to be even slower than the internal sd (card class is a huge factor here since it determines how fast your card is at reading and writing).
Also, since your phone will be constantly writting/reading from sd you're also reducing it's life span. If your internal sd breaks down, you'll need a new phone since the internal sd can't be replaced. If it's the external sd you can just buy another one cheap.
I did try this with an 8Gb class 6 card and a 512Mb swap. Sure it multitasked like a boss but phone was much slower all around. There are reports from people saying they don't notice any slow downs with a class 10 card though. They're rather cheap so i'll give it a try one day.
- sell it and buy the 9305 with 2Gb of ram. Or wait for the new S4. Or, if you're tired of getting shafted by samsung, go for any other brand. To be honest that xperia Z is looking mighty fine lately...
Super nice info friend. Will try other kernel but not nw. Will wait and watch what sammy is gonna do to fix these in next updates??
So many issues wid this flagship droid. Sudden death, exynos abuse, heating issues........
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Have you checked what the multitasking is like in aosp roms?
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2 pages and all of the mockery and nonsense flying all over the wall... You guys should sell your phone really, you lose couple hundreds dollar more and buy HTC or sth....save the b*tching
Solution: swap, lower the low Memory Killer value (original value is too high to keep app initial load faster, apps like system tuner or minfree manager will help), lock app logic (so that app doesn't get kill almost immediately when you use another app in between of a big app.
Reason why the galaxy s3 is so bad at multitasking is that to ensure users of less lags, less forgotten apps running in the background hogging the ram. Unfortunately android doesn't have a "pause in between" feature, but you chose it so find the d*mn mod and stop whining. I use AOSP and don't even say I defend samsung.... I just hate the nonsense...
Edit: Btw, titanium backup is only 6$ or so, buy it and freeze the crapwares if you don't use. Freeze, not uninstall so the next time you update your custom rom it won't reappear.
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Actually, I believe Samsung is working on a resolution.
I was trying out the 4.2.1 stock leaked ROM, and to my surprise found that zRam was enabled (thanks to Yank, check out the discussion over on the "bestmultitaskingfix" thread).
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Not sure what is wrong with your phones
Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Hii. well try this run angry birds & subway surf same time plus songs in background & any messenger like nimbuzz then switch between apps & revert here please. also a live wallpaper. :angel:
I am just mentioning basic games. i tried running gta vc & nfs mw but both reloads after first switch.