Why'd they name it 4g anyway? - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

When it won't connect to good old 4g?
I didn't know that when i bought it. I figured it would connect to 4g then lte when available. LOL.

Nope, two different 4G standards, which are not compatible with one another (well, none of the handsets are compatible with both standards, I should say).
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much

There is a triband mobile hotspot on sprint though made by Sierra. It does cdma 3g, wimax and LTE. I wish sprint would have done this to smartphones rather than just a hotspot .
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droiddawg said:
There is a triband mobile hotspot on sprint though made by Sierra. It does cdma 3g, wimax and LTE. I wish sprint would have done this to smartphones rather than just a hotspot .
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That would have raped our battery beyond belief. Wimax already kills your battery in general. It used a whole separate chip instead of integrating it into the motherboard.

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That would have raped our battery beyond belief. Wimax already kills your battery in general. It used a whole separate chip instead of integrating it into the motherboard.
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True but they could have utilized a toggle for wimax to control it. Just an idea.
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True, that's what they had in the og and 3d. It took some time for the radio to turn on lol
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trsix said:
When it won't connect to good old 4g?
I didn't know that when i bought it. I figured it would connect to 4g then lte when available. LOL.
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Like already stated, LTE is 4G. Wimax is also 4G, but most people think LTE when they here 4G anyways. Many carriers offer LTE 4G, while Wimax is more rare
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Simultaneous talk and surf?

What happened to the 3vo being able to talk and surf at the same time as many reports had stated prior to the release of the 3vo? Is this something to be added later or a never gonna happen type of thing?
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It works just fine, but only if your data connection is either via wifi or 4G.
Yes I know that same as the EVO but i meant over 3g not 4g or WiFi
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Poseidon215 said:
Yes I know that same as the EVO but i meant over 3g not 4g or WiFi
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Sprint has to enable svdo on their network. The 3d and the EVO shift have the chip set. They are just not activated.
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I hope they it asap... It would be very handy and good marketing against verizon too.
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codee said:
I hope they it asap... It would be very handy and good marketing against verizon too.
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would be better marketing against at&t really, since they are the only one with bragging rights at the moment to be able to do this, not even verizon can at the moment.
Actually the Verizon Thunderbolt can do it currently. Its been something that has been making me think about jumping ship, though at those prices, I should buy a flip phone for when my Evo is online...
The thunderbolt can only do it on LTE and the phone has no toggle to turn LTE off unless its rooted
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The thunderbolt can only do it on LTE and the phone has no toggle to turn LTE off unless its rooted
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He's right fellas
Bussin Caps n 3D
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He's right fellas
Bussin Caps n 3D
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No the Verizon TB can do it over cdma without being in LTE area. Not all VZ areas support it yet but the phone deff can do it.
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Sprint has to enable svdo on their network. The 3d and the EVO shift have the chip set. They are just not activated.
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Don't think so. the way sprint is doing their voice+data will require a certain chipset on the phones that supports SVDO, which last I checked is NOT in the EVO3D nor the shift. The MDM9600 is the only one ive seen and confirmed to have this built in.
Also a lil note for people that are interested This post lays out some things for the future in sprint and are pretty reliable sources for those that do not know them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14300011&postcount=63
Well people, after reading this thread I just had to put in my 2 cents about it. I live in a 3G area of upstate New York with NO 4G around me and can talk and surf on my Thunderbolt. That was the only reason I dropped the call dropping iPhone with at&t and swithed. I drive a truck "18 wheeler" and everywhere I have gone in the New England area that doesn't have 4G I have been able to do this.
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No the Verizon TB can do it over cdma without being in LTE area. Not all VZ areas support it yet but the phone deff can do it.
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He is right.
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No he's most definitely wrong. The Thunderbolt can do simultaneous voice and data on 3g in svdo enabled areas.
Talk and Surf on EVO and EVO 3D
The solution is not at all elegant and drain the battery pretty quickly.
What else is new here?
In any event, be it in 3G or 4G (irrelevant for 4G I guess):
1) activate the built-in hotspot (password protect it to prevent others taking
advantage of FREE Wifi draining your battery faster than Concord)
2) Activate the phone Wifi and connect to the newly created Wifi in Step 1
At this point, you should be able to talk and surf; an added bonus (already available thru the hotspot feature), is you're able to connect other devices to the Hotspot connection created in Step 1.
The new problem you will have now is to find yourself a lasting battery.

Sprint 4G plans (FD-LTE & TD-LTE 2012)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/sprints-lte-build-out-already-underway-new-4g-network-to-launc/
I admit, I wasn't expecting both, but this makes me wonder if this is the nail in the coffin coming MUCH sooner for WiMax, as TD-LTE is on Clear's roadmap. Anyway I'm glad 2012 is the time-frame for launch.
In a a few weeks we will know all of this officially.
So what happen to the rumors of EvDO Rev B? That the 3D is capable of?
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So what happen to the rumors of EvDO Rev B? That the 3D is capable of?
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It'll probably be mentioned in the October announcement.
Rev. B would make sense to those with WiMax phones that have Rev. B supporting chips, once (if?) WiMax gets decommissioned during the TD-LTE upgrade.
EVDO Rev B is still more than likely on the timeline. We'll probably find out more about it at their conference on the 7th
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EVDO Rev B is still more than likely on the timeline. We'll probably find out more about it at their conference on the 7th
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Its still rev b but in order not skipping its rev b then rev c then do advance then lte
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If they stop building wimax towers I'm done with sprint. I haven't had the chance to experience 4G bc sprint will not roll out any towers anywhere! And I live in metro-detroit! Sprint you spend too much money advertising and sponsoring ****, how about you fix your network. Give us 4G. I have had the epic 4g, the evo 3d, and my dad has the og evo and we both have not experienced it, even though we pay for it. Sprint really pisses me the **** off, Ik thousands more can agree. So now they wanna start lte, are they gonna release one tower every year, then switch to a new 4g system? I'm considering gettn out my contract and goin to vzw
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If they stop building wimax towers I'm done with sprint. I haven't had the chance to experience 4G bc sprint will not roll out any towers anywhere! And I live in metro-detroit! Sprint you spend too much money advertising and sponsoring ****, how about you fix your network. Give us 4G. I have had the epic 4g, the evo 3d, and my dad has the og evo and we both have not experienced it, even though we pay for it. Sprint really pisses me the **** off, Ik thousands more can agree. So now they wanna start lte, are they gonna release one tower every year, then switch to a new 4g system? I'm considering gettn out my contract and goin to vzw
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your arent missing out on 4g i have been in a 4g area since they rolled it out and have never been impressed i will be impressed when they come out with lte though i have seen amazing speeds with lte.
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your arent missing out on 4g i have been in a 4g area since they rolled it out and have never been impressed i will be impressed when they come out with lte though i have seen amazing speeds with lte.
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Even though you do grow to love and miss it when your not using it, 4G only comes in handy when your tethering an Xbox or you need to download big files. Especially since the sense roms are huge on the 3D. Other than that, with a few proxy tweaks 3G would do the job.
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iModMM said:
If they stop building wimax towers I'm done with sprint. I haven't had the chance to experience 4G bc sprint will not roll out any towers anywhere! And I live in metro-detroit! Sprint you spend too much money advertising and sponsoring ****, how about you fix your network. Give us 4G. I have had the epic 4g, the evo 3d, and my dad has the og evo and we both have not experienced it, even though we pay for it. Sprint really pisses me the **** off, Ik thousands more can agree. So now they wanna start lte, are they gonna release one tower every year, then switch to a new 4g system? I'm considering gettn out my contract and goin to vzw
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Umm, have you been under a rock? That's what they're doing.
Evdo Rev. B will be all you need.
I have WiMax at it's best (see my obnoxious sig?) so trust me when I say, it's nothing to get butt-hurt over. It's ok.
Go into an office building, mall, college etc. It's very unreliable over the frequency they have it on.
AyoJake said:
your arent missing out on 4g i have been in a 4g area since they rolled it out and have never been impressed i will be impressed when they come out with lte though i have seen amazing speeds with lte.
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just so you know lte is NOT faster than wimax, and wimax is NOT faster than lte. They depend on so many other things like the freq they are put on and how they are implemented out. You take FD-LTE and put it on the freq clearwire is currently usig for wimax and we all would see the SAME speeds we do now and get the same exact coverage.
the only thing the get happy about would be them putting LTE or even WiMax on the old Nextel freq.
The thing is with this though that they can't really do that till they shut it off and boot the nextel subs on iden off to the new cdma ptt they are rolling out. Thing is they have just recently or very soon to be coming out with the first phones capable of even doing so.
This is why the mtg will be interesting in october. If they have figured a way to let IDEN and LTE both exist and be on, on the 800MHz band then they could roll it out and turn it on sooner. BUT if thats not the case they clearly stated the phase out of IDEN isn't supposed to start till 2013.
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If they stop building wimax towers I'm done with sprint. I haven't had the chance to experience 4G bc sprint will not roll out any towers anywhere! And I live in metro-detroit! Sprint you spend too much money advertising and sponsoring ****, how about you fix your network. Give us 4G. I have had the epic 4g, the evo 3d, and my dad has the og evo and we both have not experienced it, even though we pay for it. Sprint really pisses me the **** off, Ik thousands more can agree. So now they wanna start lte, are they gonna release one tower every year, then switch to a new 4g system? I'm considering gettn out my contract and goin to vzw
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btw sprint doesn't build wimax towers. Clearwire does. And even still in most cases the towers are not even owned they are leased.
Noiro said:
It'll probably be mentioned in the October announcement.
Rev. B would make sense to those with WiMax phones that have Rev. B supporting chips, once (if?) WiMax gets decommissioned during the TD-LTE upgrade.
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At this point the Evo 3D is ONLY phone on Sprint's network to support Rev B. This was confirmed by a sprint rep on Sunday.
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iModMM said:
If they stop building wimax towers I'm done with sprint. I haven't had the chance to experience 4G bc sprint will not roll out any towers anywhere! And I live in metro-detroit! Sprint you spend too much money advertising and sponsoring ****, how about you fix your network. Give us 4G. I have had the epic 4g, the evo 3d, and my dad has the og evo and we both have not experienced it, even though we pay for it. Sprint really pisses me the **** off, Ik thousands more can agree. So now they wanna start lte, are they gonna release one tower every year, then switch to a new 4g system? I'm considering gettn out my contract and goin to vzw
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I use 4g in Detroit almost everyday
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iModMM said:
If they stop building wimax towers I'm done with sprint. I haven't had the chance to experience 4G bc sprint will not roll out any towers anywhere! And I live in metro-detroit! Sprint you spend too much money advertising and sponsoring ****, how about you fix your network. Give us 4G. I have had the epic 4g, the evo 3d, and my dad has the og evo and we both have not experienced it, even though we pay for it. Sprint really pisses me the **** off, Ik thousands more can agree. So now they wanna start lte, are they gonna release one tower every year, then switch to a new 4g system? I'm considering gettn out my contract and goin to vzw
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I have to agree with you on Cause certain areas in michigan have 4G but not the whole state and I'm paying 10 bucks extra for nothing.
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I use 4g in Detroit almost everyday
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Where at cause I'm at the Wayne state area, I get 1 bar outside my house and and the rep at the sprint store said that Wayne state is a hot spot for 4G.
dadda said:
I have to agree with you on Cause certain areas in michigan have 4G but not the whole state and I'm paying 10 bucks extra for nothing.
Where at cause I'm at the Wayne state area, I get 1 bar outside my house and and the rep at the sprint store said that Wayne state is a hot spot for 4G.
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The $10 charge is not for 4G. All smartphone users psi this charge whether their phone had 4G or not. Would you rather pay the extra $10, or have tiered data plans like other carriers & pay through the nisse to use anything more than 2gb.
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lyon21 said:
At this point the Evo 3D is ONLY phone on Sprint's network to support Rev B. This was confirmed by a sprint rep on Sunday.
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No sir evo 4g has it too and epic 4g and google phone and other 4g devices just wish epic touch had it
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tech7 said:
No sir evo 4g has it too and epic 4g and google phone and other 4g devices just wish epic touch had it
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Where are you getting your information sir? Do you have a link? I have been told twice by Sprint reps that the 3D is the only phone on Sprint to have rev b.c.
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I use 4g in Detroit almost everyday
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Are you parked in front of Wayne State?
Useable 4g is a joke around Metro Detroit. Even more useless than the 300 mbps data speeds we enjoy on 3g during the day.
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Where are you getting your information sir? Do you have a link? I have been told twice by Sprint reps that the 3D is the only phone on Sprint to have rev b.c.
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Well the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
shows the evo 4g chip(QSD8650) supporting rev b.
dunno how reliable that is but regardless its looking kinda slim that sprint will be rolling out rev b since if that was the case then most of the new phones that have been released lately would support it, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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At this point the Evo 3D is ONLY phone on Sprint's network to support Rev B. This was confirmed by a sprint rep on Sunday.
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Sprint Reps aren't reliable sources.
The Sprint smartphones that are capable of EVDO Rev.B:
HTC Arrive
HTC EVO 4G
HTC EVO 3D
Kyocera Echo
HTC EVO Shift
Motorola Triumph (Virgin Mobile)
Samsung Conquer 4G
I'd hope the Motorola Photon & Epic Touch were capable but I have no information on it.
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Sprint Reps aren't reliable sources.
The Sprint smartphones that are capable of EVDO Rev.B:
HTC Arrive
HTC EVO 4G
HTC EVO 3D
Kyocera Echo
HTC EVO Shift
Motorola Triumph (Virgin Mobile)
Samsung Conquer 4G
I'd hope the Motorola Photon & Epic Touch were capable but I have no information on it.
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from what ive read the epic touch 4g isn't as it uses an older chipset than others

WiMax Keys

i rooted my og evo and lost my keys. should this be a concern when rooting the ltevo?
good luck getting that wimax key
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i rooted my og evo and lost my keys. should this be a concern when rooting the ltevo?
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The eLTEvo does not use WiMax, so it's not a concern. Not sure if/how LTE works with any similarity, but LTE isn't in NYC yet, so I can't check ('cause I rooted yesterday ).
HTH,
-Jerry
I'd like to know too
I'd also like to know if this is a potential issue ... but I suspect that it isn't since LTE would be a different technology. I would hope it would function the same as, say, 3G vs. EDGE or something like that, where it's just a difference in radio.
AFAIK: For anyone that doesn't know, the original EVO required encrypted keys to join the WiMax network, and some methods of rooting/flashing the EVO didn't preserve these keys early on.
This probably will not be an issue as lte is using a sim card that is embedded in the phone. You also might want to pm a modern and ask them to move this to q&a.
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This probably will not be an issue as lte is using a sim card that is embedded in the phone. You also might want to pm a modern and ask them to move this to q&a.
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thanks, wasnt sure were to put this. lol...thought rooting would be the best place.
anywho, thanks all. not that i used 4g all that much after rooting. i sure missed the wow factor when i was not in a wifi area.
just wanted to put the topic out there for devs to check into.
Edit: Misread the OP.
No it you don't loose the keys from personal experience from my og evo and the thi thunderbolt, Lte works in a different way kind of like cdma, they will be radios to flash like the OG evo tho
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I don't believe that there would be potential issues. If you notice the LTE / EVDO radios coexist seamlessly and I don't believe that it requires a second level of authentication as WiMax did. I have no way of testing and I could be wrong but unless you do something drastic that may affect the radio portion, then I believe that rooting alone should be OK.
I've had this same concern, as I remember all the people who forever bricked their wimax keys on Evo 4g using one if the root methods, and there was no way to know initially because wimax wasn't up and running yet. Just like now.
But, as stated, the LTE radio resides in the SoC, and shouldn't be subject to compromise. From what I understand.
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I'm rooted, dev unlocked and I flashed another rom while wiping every partition on the phone and can still connect to lte
Doesn't the Evo LTE have a non removable sim that handles LTE registration?
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Doesn't the Evo LTE have a non removable sim that handles LTE registration?
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Yes.
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Samsung > HTC currently

Folks, before I get flamed for posting that and before a Moderator closes my thread, please read what I have to say.
I live in Atlanta, where LTE supposedly is everywhere. Or so I thought "supposedly" when I had the Evo because ever since I got it, I've only seen it connected once(I thought maybe it just wasn't available yet.)
Then I thought maybe it was my phone since people were reporting getting 4G speeds a lot in Atlanta, so I argued my way into getting another one from Sprint. Same thing. Never connected.
Then I got myself a Galaxy Nexus. The phone was great (til I broke it) and it was always connected to 4G.
(I even made a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846041)
When my brother came to visit me, I even tested his Evo LTE. Same thing.
Then I broke my Galaxy Nexus and bought a Galaxy S III. To my surprise, it also always connected to 4G.
I went to Sprint and compared it to an Evo LTE to see if that one would connect. I checked the settings to make sure LTE is on and it still wouldn't connect.
Even my 3G speeds on the Samsung devices are better.
Thus, I learned so far that Samsung's antenna's are a LOT better than HTC antenna.
(FYI, I do not work or am endorsed by Samsung in any means. Matter of fact, I think their phones feel like cheap plastic pieces of sh*t and I wish I could have my HTC again (in working condition.))
Maybe we need to pressure HTC into putting in better antennas in our phones.
Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.
I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed
Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330
^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
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Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.
I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed
Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330
^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
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I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.
Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.
And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.
At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.
So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.
I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
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I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.
Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.
And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.
At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.
So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
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Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
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Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.
I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
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I know. I figured. I was think perhaps someone could come up with a better answer here. On Samsung section, I would only get things like "Yeah Samsung all the way!!!" Etc.
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Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
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I see what you're saying.
Also, I agree with the Evo should still be connecting. Not sure why it wasn't 3 Evo's at that.
(I tried all 3 different radios. Even lost my S-OFF and my Root in order to try the latest radio because I was that desperate for answers.)
Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
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Sprint doesn't have a hspa+ network.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
And honestly, Samsung vs. HTC aside, the problem is more on the carrier than HTC... Or both I guess. I used 2 friend's One X and GS3 next to each other in hspa+ 4G and they both were very close as far as load times. The GS3 person ended up swapping in her gs3 for the One X after seeing the software difference though Sprint just forced HTC to skimp on the radios with the extra evo features jammed in.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
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At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.
The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
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Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
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Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
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I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
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At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.
The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
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Was not aware. It's not just signal issues. It's HTC signal issues, correct??
rubyknight said:
Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
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You're talking WiMax.
And GS3 is not WiMax compatible.
sobaked2921 said:
I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
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Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.
Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...e-else-having-sprint-gs-iii-radio-issues.html
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/96470
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/92898
Honestly though, both phones are getting threads like this daily so I'm having a hard time believing any signal related complaints anymore.
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Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.
Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.[/QUOTE]
I know but at least ill get better connection as I impatiently wait for sprint to finish the LTE lol
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I'm honestly torn between HTC and Samsung, sometimes. I love how an HTC phone feels in my hands, nice and solid. Sense looks good but can sometimes be a performance hog. Samsung does some pretty unique stuff to their devices (multiscreen, s-pen, etc) and I like that. I hate how the whole damn thing is just a bar of plastic, just don't like what it feels like compared to HTC. But software wise, Tocuhwiz isn't that bad, IMO. It's much closer to AOSP than any other OEMs version of Android.
But if you want a good read on the upcoming struggles with Samsung's Exynos-based devices, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922613&page=2
Start around post 16, some really good info from a CM dev. I like Samsung for always getting out their source early, but if it's broken and doesn't compile, then it doesn't matter. And if they can't help with any low level processor stuff because it's proprietary to them, they're not helping the community as much as they try to show that they are. Just my 2 cents.
Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
funcrusher said:
Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
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Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.
I wish I had my Evo back sometimes.
Very solid phone. GS3 freezes. My keyboard can't keep up with my typing and I end up with words like "whuoi dasu unjhoos" (this matters to me. I text a LOT.. like 500 or so texts per day.)
The speaker phones sounds terrible.
It's durable as a cold butter stick.
Feels very plastic-y.
However pros:
Service,
More developers available for it on XDA,
Very light.
arozer said:
Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.
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LOL!
I've actually come close to trading my EVO for a GS3 a couple times. No LTE here, so that's never factored in.
Basically 3 things have kept me from doing so:
1. People want way too much +$
2. Most that I've come across not in mint condition
3. I'm lazy
Oh, and also been trying to sell a car on CL, so haven't reposted my EVO for GS3 ad in awhile.
Doesn't most of the EVO's LTE connection problem stem from software? Bc last I heard the next ota is going to address it?
Personally, I won't have LTE for another few months at the earliest. So, it doesn't matter much to the majority of the US. Granted there are a lot of EVO users in the LTE startup cities. But does this mean a mass exodus from the EVO for 4g connectivity?
I can wait to see if an ota fixes the issues. I mean what are we gonna do, go to Verizon? Hahahaha.

LTE TDD?

I found this article online and was wondering whether this will help our Evos and its infamous 4G connectivity problem: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...ith-att-and-verizons-coverage-and-performance
Our phone doesn't have the required hardware to work on those frequencies, there are no devices as of now that can download that other than the newest hotspots that will be or was just released, somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
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jocarog said:
Our phone doesn't have the required hardware to work on those frequencies, there are no devices as of now that can download that other than the newest hotspots that will be or was just released, somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
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Nope you're correct. Only hotspots for now, with handsets coming in the future. I'm excited to see this happening.
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I, too, take this as good news. While this might not help our current devices in any way, at least I know that my next device in 2yrs should have pretty awesome service by that time.
And with the increase in network speed, I'm hoping that more customers migrate/return to Sprint, and ensuring that we keep truly unlimited data. Not unless they get greedy...
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aarsyl said:
I, too, take this as good news. While this might not help our current devices in any way, at least I know that my next device in 2yrs should have pretty awesome service by that time.
And with the increase in network speed, I'm hoping that more customers migrate/return to Sprint, and ensuring that we keep truly unlimited data. Not unless they get greedy...
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Sounds interesting, but I remember thinking the same thing 2 years ago... I really want to give Sprint the benefit of the doubt but it's tough when my wife is getting 30 mbps down with at&t while I'm lucky to get 3 sitting right next to her. It kinda defeats the purpose of having unlimited data if you're limited in what you can do with it.
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Good news. I hope the future HTC M8 will take advantage of Sprint's new LTE TDD.
I never got Wimax, haven't even heard of LTE coming to my city and they're already moving to the next thing? I may never see 4G
southernstyle said:
I never got Wimax, haven't even heard of LTE coming to my city and they're already moving to the next thing? I may never see 4G
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Almost every single tower in the country will get 1900MHz LTE. The TDD LTE came out of the Clearwire acquisition and won't effect the rollout of the LTE that your phone can use.
TDD LTE will have higher speeds but a much shorter range, and is designed to compliment, not replace, the 1900 (and eventually 800) MHz LTE.
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Almost every single tower in the country will get 1900MHz LTE.
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That is a VERY VERY long time away, especially for sprint. Hell, I don't even think verizon has done that yet, although they have done most
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Actually, 90-95% of all the towers will have 1900 CDMA/LTE by end of 2014-Q12015 along with 800 CDMA/LTE and 2.5 LTE. Network will have the highest throughput of all operators.
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billy2526 said:
Actually, 90-95% of all the towers will have 1900 CDMA/LTE by end of 2014-Q12015 along with 800 CDMA/LTE and 2.5 LTE. Network will have the highest throughput of all operators.
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Where did you learn this?
Also, about 3mo ago I saw 4g pop up on my signal and about shat, but if I moved out of my kitchen it was gone. Now, it seems to be everywhere. Wimax has been everywhere here (Everett Wa.) about 2yrs . Good for you sprint. :thumbup:
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