Undetected Internet - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

What does it exactly mean when people say tethering may be "undetected"? Does this mean data will go to At&t and not be charged? I'm on a family plan and theres a total of 10gb's a month for everybody or something. I have already used 3gb mostly from tethering to my phone whenever my wifi starts acting up detected under the data settings on my phone.
Is there a way of receiving data free of charge somehow?

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I meant to put this in the General section. If someone could kindly....

Att charges extra for tethering so if it's undetected they just charge it as data
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I see...and there's no way of making a proxy or something that will not detect data usable? Considering you can use the i777 on T-Mobile's network too, I don't suppose there's any way of getting an untraceable data connection, is there?

aspen1135 said:
I see...and there's no way of making a proxy or something that will not detect data usable? Considering you can use the i777 on T-Mobile's network too, I don't suppose there's any way of getting an untraceable data connection, is there?
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Why are you looking for anything untraceable, if you pay for the service good....if not, then pay for it, but seems you are looking to go around your service provider to be able to provide data/connection to others or something else....am I misunderstanding you?
Bottom-line your service provider will detect sooner or later.

Hey I'm all for paying the service, but at&t needs to get themselves an unlimited data plan setup. I like to tether a lot
And part of me wants to know just out of curiosity and educational purposes

aspen1135 said:
Hey I'm all for paying the service, but at&t needs to get themselves an unlimited data plan setup. I like to tether a lot
And part of me wants to know just out of curiosity and educational purposes
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Sounds like you need to take it up with AT&T, not here and your curiosity also should be directed to AT&T. And educational purposes, ok sure, again that should also be directed to AT&T. Good Luck and Thanks.

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App to turn atrix into wifi hotspot for free?

Is there an App to turn my phone into a wifi hotspot for free? Like, I'm fine with paying for the app, but I don't wanna pay for tethering. I will root if necessary (heck, I'd probably root regardless when I get the phone).
kenio8185 said:
Is there an App to turn my phone into a wifi hotspot for free? Like, I'm fine with paying for the app, but I don't wanna pay for tethering. I will root if necessary (heck, I'd probably root regardless when I get the phone).
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You can use barnicle app (free) or if your more comfortable with modding your phone you can enable the mobile hotspot setting, it only takes like 10 min.
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You don't need a third-party app. You can get the Mobile Hotspot the phone comes with to work without a tether plan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980636
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You don't need a third-party app. You can get the Mobile Hotspot the phone comes with to work without a tether plan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980636
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I guess that might work, but I'm gonna be getting the phone from Bell, not AT&T, so that may not work for me.
straight from google
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
aquariuz23 said:
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
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Will AT&T know you are tethering? I am on unlimited plan and they may just switch me to a limited plan. That will suck!
Rican2008 said:
Will AT&T know you are tethering? I am on unlimited plan and they may just switch me to a limited plan. That will suck!
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They can't switch your plans unless you say so. They either need your sig from a store or need you to switch online. The worst that might (and most likely won't) happen is that they'll just cancel your plan, in which case, congrats, you just got an Atrix for a really good deal.
What is most likely gonna happen is that IF AT&T figures out you are tethering, they're just gonna charge you for it. I don't know how AT&T's rates are, but I believe the company I'm with, Bell (it's in Canada) charges about $5/mb if you're tethering.
So, if I were you, I'd get the app or do the mod. Then use about 1mb through tethering. Then call them in a few hours, maybe the next day and ask how much tethering you have used so far. If they say 1mb, you did something wrong (and get dinged on your next bill for it), if they say nothing, then you're good.
aquariuz23 said:
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
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Ya, rooting is the easy part, but how do I access the wifi tether option after rooting? and are you sure I won't be charged for tethering if I use it?
Also, like I said, I'm not with AT&T. I live in Canada, and a company called Bell is gonna be getting it here soon, I'm gonna be buying the phone from them, and using it off their network.
aquariuz23 said:
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
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No, don't root using that article (could someone get them to update the article with the new method?). It's messy for the Atrix. Best thing to do now is use aRoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981866
kenio8185 said:
Ya, rooting is the easy part, but how do I access the wifi tether option after rooting? and are you sure I won't be charged for tethering if I use it?
Also, like I said, I'm not with AT&T. I live in Canada, and a company called Bell is gonna be getting it here soon, I'm gonna be buying the phone from them, and using it off their network.
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Dude, neither Telus or Bell have any sort of tethering fees. You also don't know if Bell will modify the phone to just include the option, seeing as AT&T have some sort of tethering fee service going on for some reason.
The only thing you're going to get from tethering here is whatever data you use being chipped off your regular data plan. I use 50 MB worth of tethering, that's 50 MB off my data (which makes sense).
DJ Yoshiman said:
Dude, neither Telus or Bell have any sort of tethering fees. You also don't know if Bell will modify the phone to just include the option, seeing as AT&T have some sort of tethering fee service going on for some reason.
The only thing you're going to get from tethering here is whatever data you use being chipped off your regular data plan. I use 50 MB worth of tethering, that's 50 MB off my data (which makes sense).
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Are you sure they don't have any tethering? I remember once they increased my bill by a horrific amount, and they said it was because I tethered to my computer (I didn't tether and after many calls and hours of complaining, they took away the charge). However, thinking back to it, that was before I had data as well. I do remember the rep specifically saying it's because I tethered data to my computer though, maybe he meant that I tethered it but I was being charged regular data.
Anyways, what you said is what I want, I have 6gb of data and I rarely get passed 500mb. I wanna start using more of my data per month, and wifi tethering is gonna help me with that.

how to setup AT&T $10 data on Vibrant

Hello there Vibrant users,
I was just wondering if any1 know how to setup an unlocked vibrant with at&t $10 data plan. I bought my phone already unlocked and root. When i insert my sim card, it's says i have 3g network and data was up and running when i don't have a data plan yet. I just recently added the $10 data plan on my phone but don't know if i am using it. It already have at&t settings already before i got the phone and does MMS share the same thing or seperate. Can any1 help?
Thanks.
Once you add a data plan to your account that's pretty much it. Are you saying it isn't connecting?
Oh I see. It is connecting but I was just wondering the part when i got the phone without the data plan yet, the 3g was up running already before i got the $10 data plan that's all. Oh yeah what about the MMS? Do I have to do something about that too or it'll just use the data plan to get it.
I have had a Vibrant unlocked and rooted for several months now and currently using the At&t $10 (non-smartphone) unlimited data plan. This does work and I haven't had to pay those ridiculous prices for data since my Torch.
bboyuno said:
Oh I see. It is connecting but I was just wondering the part when i got the phone without the data plan yet, the 3g was up running already before i got the $10 data plan that's all. Oh yeah what about the MMS? Do I have to do something about that too or it'll just use the data plan to get it.
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The 3G will always be up and running because ATT wants to make money from you even if you dont have a data plan. I'm actually thinking of switching to the HTC Incredible S just because it has the other data frequency. Not sure how much of a difference it would make though.

Block Data Requests to Network on SGS2 (AT$T)

Hi community, I'm a noob to posting and I'll apologize up-front. This is my first XDA thread, but I've been a silent creeper on here since the Windows Mobile 6/6.1/6.5 era. After searching here, Google, and other forums, I am still at a loss for the proper procedure for doing what I'm about to request. I have an LG Incite (CT810), which is a Windows 6.1 phone. I'm familiar with network settings, access codes, registry edits, ROMS, etc.; however, I'm new to Android and I won't even pretend to have a solid idea of what I'm doing.
Here's the situation: with my Incite, I have a "smartphone exclusion" and "data opt-out" features on my plan. This meant that for 3 years, I did not pay for data for any of the lines on my grandfathered family plan as the data network is mostly unusable in my portion of north Florida. Where I live, work, and go to school all have wi-fi and I have been largely successful managing things that way. On the Incite, you did the following to prevent all data requests from going from the phone to the network...Start>Settings>Connections>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks. Relatively straight-forward.
I now have a new SGS2 i777 sitting on my desk with both the new and old SIM cards available (as I have not yet activated it). After working extensively with premier/enterprise customer care, my plan now looks like it did 1 month ago when I was promised that I could upgrade to anything "other than an iPhone" and maintain my contract "as-is" (i.e. no data plan). I signed into my account last night and sure enough, the Enterprise Data Pro 2GB had been removed and the Data Opt-Out had been reinstated. I've been reading about IMEI crawlers and network connection monitors...and though I can't do anything about the first, I was wondering if there's anything that can be done to prevent the second from the phone side (like my Incite did). For example, making all background and active data refer to the wi-fi connection and throw an error if it wasn't connected.
I still have 2 weeks left in my "buyer's remorse" period to activate or figure out what to do. Basically, I don't want to pay for something I can't use--especially since I'm on a fixed income. In summary, are there internal settings to prevent network data or is there more work I need to do from the customer care side?
Thank you ahead of time for your patience with me.
You ight get more help in the i727 skyrocket forums, your posting in the Original SGS2. There is a big difference in phones. Sorry I am not of any further assistance since I am not running stock samsung roms so I havent tried what your wanting to do. I am on CM7 builds. I believe in CM7 there is a spot to choose 2G, 2G+3G, and other settings. But I am not aware on stock samsung roms. Take a look or see if your post can be moved to the Skyrocket forum for better help.
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Headslap moment...it's an i777 SGS2 normal (non-Skyrocket) sorry about that. lol told ya I was a n00b.
I'm interested in all options: rooting, roms, apps, stock settings, etc.
Does anyone know if there's a code you dial that will take you to the engineer menu to adjust modem settings? (e.g. the Incite is 5476278#*#) 3G in this area is poor and 4G is non-existent so I probably don't need those either.
lo-fi_engineer said:
Headslap moment...it's an i777 SGS2 normal (non-Skyrocket) sorry about that. lol told ya I was a n00b.
I'm interested in all options: rooting, roms, apps, stock settings, etc.
Does anyone know if there's a code you dial that will take you to the engineer menu to adjust modem settings? (e.g. the Incite is 5476278#*#) 3G in this area is poor and 4G is non-existent so I probably don't need those either.
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If I understand what you want correctly, you are looking for a way to completely disable data service over the cell network on the phone side, while maintaining the ability to use data over wifi? If that is the case, I don't know of a way to do this on stock firmware, but many custom firmwares include the option to disable data. Perhaps I'm missing your goal though...
Edit: menu>settings>wireless and network> mobile networks> enable packet data. If this is accessible on stock (can't remember, it's been a while) that might do what you want
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I don't know how you managed to keep your old non-data plan as any new smartphone requires a minimum data plan, no ifs, ands or buts.
Miami_Son said:
I don't know how you managed to keep your old non-data plan as any new smartphone requires a minimum data plan, no ifs, ands or buts.
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I gave my girl my captivate ( she had some old slider phone) and she just put her sim in and uses everrything on wifi. Didn't upgrade to a data plan.
If I understand OP correctly, then i think it's too easy to do.
I don't fully capture what OP's first or second mean but, my take
1. If you already "data opt-out", then you cannot receive any data, meaning you cannot access their network.
2. If you don't want to use their mobile network but just wifi, then turn off their network under Wireless and Network/Mobile Data (or DAta network) settings.
In fact, I turned it off frequently, for this month billing statement, I only consume 2.3MB so far LOL
Miami_Son said:
I don't know how you managed to keep your old non-data plan as any new smartphone requires a minimum data plan, no ifs, ands or buts.
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Persistence mostly. I don't know if it will stick when I move my SIM card over though. See screenshot below
votinh said:
If I understand OP correctly, then i think it's too easy to do.
1. If you already "data opt-out", then you cannot receive any data, meaning you cannot access their network.
2. If you don't want to use their mobile network but just wifi, then turn off their network under Wireless and Network/Mobile Data (or DAta network) settings.
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+1 I'll definitely check that out when I get a chance to charge it. I just ran it down until it shut off so it'll be on the charger for a while once I get to my residence.
Idk if data opt out is same as data block but I use that on one of my lines with an Inspire 4G. With that route you lose mms though. Same with blocking it under wireless settings.
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Changing phones does not affect your plan unless you buy a subsidized phone that requires a minimum data plan. I went from an Incite with an old unlimited plan and kept it when I went to a Tilt 2 that I bought off eBay. I simply swapped my SIM and it worked just fine. When I used my upgrade for the Captivate I was forced off my unlimited plan. If you go the full 30 days with that phone I suspect you will see yourself put on a 200mb plan. Did you get a new SIM with the phone? I got one with my SGSII and if I didn't activate it within the 30 days they would have charged me the full price of the phone.
Apndroid shuts off data through changing the apns for you.
The manual way is to type up a new apn with bad settings. Voice calls will still work, but data will never be able to connect. Wifi will be unaffected. No special settings needed anywhere else on the phone.
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Settings>Wireless and Network>Mobile Networks>Use Packet Data
Uncheck the box at the menu above and you will not use cell data. WiFi data will work just fine. Just verified this on an unmodified, completely bone stock ROM. Changing the APN settings to incorrect values can be done as an added defense, but shouldn't be necessary. Hope this helps.
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Settings>Wireless and Network>Mobile Networks>Use Packet Data
Uncheck the box at the menu above and you will not use cell data. WiFi data will work just fine. Just verified this on an unmodified, completely bone stock ROM. Changing the APN settings to incorrect values can be done as an added defense, but shouldn't be necessary. Hope this helps.
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+1
Even better
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disable data connection on sgs2
I'm using the app Android Task Manager Pro Ver 2.2.6 it really helps on stopping the data connection so i wont go over my data plan.
Miami_Son said:
Changing phones does not affect your plan unless you buy a subsidized phone that requires a minimum data plan. I went from an Incite with an old unlimited plan and kept it when I went to a Tilt 2 that I bought off eBay. I simply swapped my SIM and it worked just fine. When I used my upgrade for the Captivate I was forced off my unlimited plan. If you go the full 30 days with that phone I suspect you will see yourself put on a 200mb plan. Did you get a new SIM with the phone? I got one with my SGSII and if I didn't activate it within the 30 days they would have charged me the full price of the phone.
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After speaking to enterprise business customer care many, many times, I was advised that there are extremely limited instances where business users can upgrade their plans and continue to use their old settings. I offered to buy an SGS2 on Newegg or Amazon at full price, so that I could maintain my plan (like you can with an unlocked phone and a T-Mobile Value-1000 plan utilizing the "bring-your-own-phone provision"), but the agents told me that I would be "upgraded" to a data plan based on the IMEI change from my Incite to my SGS2. Two t2 agents told me that buying a full-priced phone and then correcting the account was unnecessary as EBCC could correct the plan after the fact (even with an upgrade). I followed the instructions to a "t" and bought the phones via the EB OLAM, received them, emailed the agent 3x over the course of a week, but never heard back.
After 3 calls to EBCC, I reached a veteran tier 2 agent who said that correcting the plan based on my circumstances was "easily" done, but that the agent whom provided her email address had "owned" the problem and needed to get one last opportunity to take care of it. She said she emailed the prior agent and to call back and request tier 2 or a supervisor if she didn't contact me. Idk if she was just avoiding doing it or what, but I waited as instructed. I called back and reached a tier 1 agent who recited the normal stance regarding smartphones. Several tier 1 agents later, I reached one who spoke to her supervisor whom read the litany of notes and approved the plan adjustment. Will this work for anyone else? I doubt it, but who knows. ...probably won't work for me either lol...
The screenshots in my previous post were generated 5 minutes before I posted them--they are accurate. My concern from here on out is that the phone will attempt to download data or connect to 4G (2 of the 3 conditions that will generate a forced data plan--IMEI is the 3rd, but understandably, people don't like discussing that one on here). I'll try out the bone stock packet disable setting suggestion shortly and see what happens.
So with a quick search for a similar phone, I found *#*#INFO#*#* Which took me to the Testing Menu. From there, pressing Phone Information>Preferred Network Type>GSM Only. I'm not yet activated, but I'll reply back if that worked.
...making progress!
I saw a Captivate earlier, but has anyone had success keeping a 3.5/4G phone data plan-free?
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When I used my upgrade for the Captivate I was forced off my unlimited plan.
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How did they get away with that? I've been grandfathered for years, even when I got my first 3g phone. I don't know anybody who was actually forced down to a tiered plan.
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mkosmo said:
How did they get away with that? I've been grandfathered for years, even when I got my first 3g phone. I don't know anybody who was actually forced down to a tiered plan.
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When you buy a subsidized phone you have to agree to their terms. That requires you to sign a new contract, which did not give me the choice of keeping my old plan. Maybe I could have made a stink, but at the time they no longer offered unlimited plans and I really wanted the Cappy.
That's only true if you upgrade through 3rd party retailers. Even that, you can call AT&T to get your unlimited data plan back. No, you are no forced to give up the unlimited data when signing a new contract. The problem is most 3rd party retailers can't keep your unlimited with their computer systems, only AT&T stores can do so.
Success!
I swapped out the sim cards without formal activation earlier tonight...no dreaded "We noticed that you're using a smartphone..." text! (At least not yet). Packet data was enabled in the network settings--it seemed to have no effect. From as far as I can tell, the process involves the following...
I came from a grandfathered plan with a smartphone exclusion and data opt-out. I upgraded online and then called [enterprise] customer care and got both items added back along with getting my IMEI updated as available for the opt-out. That seems to be it. Nothing on the phone side. From what multiple tier 2 agents have told me, that will absolutely not work with an iPhone, but who cares about iPhones anyways
I'm curious which combination of data block, smartphone exclusion, and IMEI database update are necessary to make that work for others in situations similar to mine (useless data network where I live/ commute). Will this work with a dumbphone and a data opt-out (block)? I don't know. Perhaps someone who's in a position to upgrade could try it. Using a 3G sim card in a dumbphone, call customer care (611) and request a wix block/ data opt-out on that line. I doubt they'll put the smartphone exclusion on it if it's not a smartphone--if it is then they'll probably put a data plan on instead. After you can log into the online account management, check the features on the line and verify the data opt-out and then try to put your 3G sim into a 4G smartphone and make some calls. Warning: in the event that you weren't intending to upgrade to a smartphone anyways, you might cause yourself a lot of headache getting the data back off once your sim is back in your original non-smartphone (assuming that data block by itself isn't enough to curb the data). Please chime in if it worked because I'm sure there's at least a few members who would be interested.
Loving the Samsung Galaxy S II and XDA...I can't wait to decide which mods I'm going to do first...
Response to the "Dandrumheller":
YES, the stock ROM has that option. It is the best solution that doesn't require any hassle.
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[Q] how does aT&t know your tethering??

[Q] tethering caught with fox fi- with proxy
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
I'm on T-Mobile and have been caught tethering, I use chrome extension user-agent switcher. Choose the Android user-agent. If some pages require IE then just precede with HTTPS.
Try it.
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Another thought you could use the tether, establish a VPN tunnel to a home machine and then use the internet that way. it'll encapsulate your traffic from your laptop to your home PC so AT&T could see is traffic but not what and where. From what I've read it's either 1 of 2 ways how AT&T detect if you're tethering:
1) by detecting what type of response headers and ports your connecting on. A VPN tunnel would protect you.
2) the other rumor is that by using a tethering program (or one that's built in for that matter) uses a tethering specific APN which AT&T tracks that way. So in theory if you could specify which APN you use for tethering that would protect you.
I haven't wanted to test out these theories because I have unlimited plan and don't want to risk it.
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Another thought you could use the tether, establish a VPN tunnel to a home machine and then use the internet that way. it'll encapsulate your traffic from your laptop to your home PC so AT&T could see is traffic but not what and where. From what I've read it's either 1 of 2 ways how AT&T detect if you're tethering:
1) by detecting what type of response headers and ports your connecting on. A VPN tunnel would protect you.
2) the other rumor is that by using a tethering program (or one that's built in for that matter) uses a tethering specific APN which AT&T tracks that way. So in theory if you could specify which APN you use for tethering that would protect you.
I haven't wanted to test out these theories because I have unlimited plan and don't want to risk it.
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i have deleted the alternate APN ( which is hidden even from root users) so i am not sure if that is it.
is it possible to alter the TTL ? and if so how?
- also how would i tweak my note to use a VPN?
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i have deleted the alternate APN ( which is hidden even from root users) so i am not sure if that is it.
is it possible to alter the TTL ? and if so how?
- also how would i tweak my note to use a VPN?
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Personally I'd handle the VPN on the laptop/computer instead of the phone itself. Inherently there's an overhead for a VPN and requires processing power which would slow down your throughput on your phone if the phone was handling that.
Here's a link that has a decent walk through if you want to use the phone for the VPN.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smartphones/securely-connect-your-android-smartphone-via-vpn/3321
What APN did you delete? can you post the values of it? Also why do you want to change your TTL?
I do not know how at &t does it, but a friend was one of the first owner of a 10" tablet with internal 3g years ago. His provider accused him doing tethering.
We assumed that they check the screen resolution of the browser which some web sites use to optimise the layout.
After short discussion, he could convince them and they droped the case.
Not that I'm in any way knowledgeable in the context of this topic, but when you mentioned the alteration and/or deletion of hidden APN data...
Bear in mind that a stock GB build for the ATT note, contains 1352 separate APN's....
And I'm not sure if the hidden file will capture the additional data or not to prevent detection, but I thought I'd post anyway just in case it helps at all ...g
Edit : I can't say for sure where these APN logs are stored or how/when they are accessed, but I know they exist as they can be seen when backing or restoring the GB or ICS UCLF6 Builds when tracking the line by line process.
Good luck to you gentlemen, I have nothing else to offer on the subject ....sorry ....g
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I do not know how at &t does it, but a friend was one of the first owner of a 10" tablet with internal 3g years ago. His provider accused him doing tethering.
We assumed that they check the screen resolution of the browser which some web sites use to optimise the layout.
After short discussion, he could convince them and they droped the case.
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If that's the case, that sort of data can be masked by a VPN tunnel. But I think it's a little more complex than that because there's quite a few tablets on AT&T now.
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If that's the case, that sort of data can be masked by a VPN tunnel. But I think it's a little more complex than that because there's quite a few tablets on AT&T now.
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Sure, they will have improved their detection, but it will be based on fingerprinting for the traffic of commonly used desktop applications. VPN will avoid this, but using VPN all the time might be suspiscious per se.
xblosa said:
Sure, they will have improved their detection, but it will be based on fingerprinting for the traffic of commonly used desktop applications. VPN will avoid this, but using VPN all the time might be suspiscious per se.
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Agreed, it would look suspicious, but suspicion isn't enough to warrant AT&T to switch your account.
I got the email from AT&T about a year ago warning me about tethering and I called the number and she said their system looks for many thing and throws up red flags when it can prove you are tethering. She said they have to have proof before they can warn people. I was using my device to tether an iPod touch and she told me the reason I was caught was because I had downloaded apps from the App Store on an I device but my sim card was never shown to be inside an Idevice. It was crazy because I used several devices to tether for at least three years without being caught and within a week of using the iPod I was caught.
How dare we use the services we pay for! Such arrogance I have never seen to think att shouldn't be able to double dip. Vote Romney 2012 and deregulate more!
I got a warning once after watching Netflix... on my phone. They're usually bull****.
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Earlier this month, I was on vacay and decided to use my phone to tether to my laptop (wasnt going to pay $12 at the hotel for damn sure), and I forgot and left it on thru one night. I didn't really "tether" per say, I turned my phone to a hotspot actually and it's not like my internet usage was higher than normal neither.
Why does at&t trip when you gotta pay anyway? (if no unlimited plan of course)
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Why does at&t trip when you gotta pay anyway? (if no unlimited plan of course)
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Well because AT&T wants to get you for every single penny they can. They want to charge you for a data plan, then a tether plan and roaming plan, and idevice plan, a non-idevice plan, a gps plan, a navigation plan, a text to speech plan, your grandma is a dirty girl plan, your connected to more than one tower at a time plan, a video chat plan. I'm sure you get the point, if they can squeeze that extra penny from the people and force them to pay higher prices, even though it alienates their consumers, they know people aren't going to leave. The market isn't who has the best service gets the most customers anymore. It's you will use us because we're all owned by the same company and we just give you the illusion that you have choices, but in reality all your money are belong to us.
/climbs off of soapbox
I have a 3 gig plan and use about 8 gigs a month.. I tether my ps3 and play online and stuff like that.. I have never heard from AT&T..
Surely they can see when I'm connected to Playstation Network using massive amounts of data..
Its powered by Jellybeaned AOKP!
Did you delete the tethering manager program?
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johnrippa said:
How dare we use the services we pay for! Such arrogance I have never seen to think att shouldn't be able to double dip. Vote Romney 2012 and deregulate more!
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Exactly !!..g
drnecropolis said:
I have a 3 gig plan and use about 8 gigs a month.. I tether my ps3 and play online and stuff like that.. I have never heard from AT&T..
Surely they can see when I'm connected to Playstation Network using massive amounts of data..
Its powered by Jellybeaned AOKP!
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aside from charging you for tethering...they dont charge you for the overage from the 3gig to 8gig? that has to be a lot

Tethering working out of the box

I saw an article on PhoneArena about wifi sharing on the S7. Cool feature. But when I tested it, I noticed that I was also able to share my mobile connection. There appears to be no tethering block.
I have the AT&T model, which I have had since Monday. I am on a corporate plan that does NOT include tethering.
Can anyone else confirm?
This explains it kinda
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This explains it kinda
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That doesn't make sense. All of the AT&T phones I've owned over the last several years have had a block on tethering, including my GS6 and Note 5.
Well maybe they came to their senses
AT&T Data share plans have allowed tethering and connection sharing (hotspot) for a couple of years now. The only people that I know of that generally did not have it as an option were those with "unlimited" data.
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AT&T Data share plans have allowed tethering and connection sharing (hotspot) for a couple of years now. The only people that I know of that generally did not have it as an option were those with "unlimited" data.
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Apparently, you missed the part of my post where I said I was on a corporate plan WITH NO TETHERING.
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Apparently, you missed the part of my post where I said I was on a corporate plan WITH NO TETHERING.
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I didn't miss anything. If you are not on an "unlimited" data plan, and you are with AT&T, you CAN tether.
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I didn't miss anything. If you are not on an "unlimited" data plan, and you are with AT&T, you CAN tether.
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I'm not sure if you're retarded or just trolling.
I have been on the same plan with them for years. It has not changed. All previous AT&T phones had tethering blocked and threw up the message to contact AT&T to enable tethering. I know exactly what my plan includes and how it works. This is the first AT&T phone in years that hasn't had tethering blocked out of the box.
Not sure I can make it any clearer than that.
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I'm not sure if you're retarded or just trolling.
I have been on the same plan with them for years. It has not changed. All previous AT&T phones had tethering blocked and threw up the message to contact AT&T to enable tethering. I know exactly what my plan includes and how it works. This is the first AT&T phone in years that hasn't had tethering blocked out of the box.
Not sure I can make it any clearer than that.
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No need for rudeness or name calling. It's not my fault that you or your company didn't bother to see that AT&T has allowed tethering on non-unlimited data plans for years now. It's up to you to find that out, they are not just going to do the work for you. If you would have called and had it enabled, as the message directed you to, you might have found out for yourself.
Either way, have a nice night.
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No need for rudeness or name calling. It's not my fault that you or your company didn't bother to see that AT&T has allowed tethering on non-unlimited data plans for years now. It's up to you to find that out, they are not just going to do the work for you. If you would have called and had it enabled, as the message directed you to, you might have found out for yourself.
Either way, have a nice night.
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Did you ever stop to consider the fact that corporate plans work differently? That companies might choose to retain unlimited plans to avoid overage charges?
I wasn't looking for someone to pollute my thread by arguing with me over what plan my company has and how it works. I was hoping that someone else who is on a plan without tethering could confirm my findings. I'm well aware of how AT&T's plans for consumers are structured now.
I have the AT&T version, and I am on a 3 gig plan, and I am able to toggle either Mobile Hotspot or Tethering. Both work fine. I do not have a tethering plan.
I came from HTC - I had the HTC One and then the One M8. Both of those were rooted with custom ROMs just so I could tether.
No need to root this phone. It is fine the way it is.
Mike
greyhulk said:
I saw an article on PhoneArena about wifi sharing on the S7. Cool feature. But when I tested it, I noticed that I was also able to share my mobile connection. There appears to be no tethering block.
I have the AT&T model, which I have had since Monday. I am on a corporate plan that does NOT include tethering.
Can anyone else confirm?
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I have the AT&T version, and I am on a 3 gig plan, and I am able to toggle either Mobile Hotspot or Tethering. Both work fine. I do not have a tethering plan.
I came from HTC - I had the HTC One and then the One M8. Both of those were rooted with custom ROMs just so I could tether.
No need to root this phone. It is fine the way it is.
Mike
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Thanks for confirming, Mike. I wonder what changed that they are no longer blocking it. Or maybe it's a mistake.
I only tether if I am somewhere with the laptop and there's no wireless or wired network. It will burn through data, so they will get you with additional charges if you exceed your plan. An earlier post in this thread said that they were forced to allow tethering.
Mike
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Thanks for confirming, Mike. I wonder what changed that they are no longer blocking it. Or maybe it's a mistake.
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Not working with my newer unlimited plan. Well at least not the stock Hotspot.
I'm pretty sure tethering is allowed for all customers except for people on the grandfathered unlimited plan. If you have any of the tiered data plans they allow tethering on it.
AT&T offers an Unlimited plan to DirecTV subscribers. I almost went for it until I learned it did not allow tethering/hotspot. Their other plans do but they will throttle you at 22gbs. For DirecTV they also offer $500 in credit per line. A free S7 if you buy one. And, $650 in credits to switch. I walked into their store and chatted with them but they are either too busy or too clueless. Not sure if all these deals are all in effect but I've been bombarded with offers since they bought DirecTV. I really want to bail on VZW.
AT&T Unlimited:
https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/unlimited-plan.html?source=EC1N0000000waa00E&wtExtndSource=0316_dtvr_nat_b_unld
Hotspot:
https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/tethering.html
No hotspot love for me...
My new S7 Edge can only act as a Hotspot when I'm on wifi (big deal, right?). I have a grandfathered in Unlimited Data plan and then it became part of a Corp Account. Once I turn wifi off on my phone and the Mobile Hotspot feature to "on" then I get the same message I've gotten on all of my AT&T phones for years: Please call 611 or go to att.com/mywireless to enable mobile hotspot... blah, blah, blah....
I'm sure they want me to pay for my phone to act as a mobile hotspot...Oh well, I'll survive!
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I didn't miss anything. If you are not on an "unlimited" data plan, and you are with AT&T, you CAN tether.
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What are you talking about? I have an unlimited data plan with AT&T and I can tether without any extra charges. I'm also on a corporate account.
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What are you talking about? I have an unlimited data plan with AT&T and I can tether without any extra charges. I'm also on a corporate account.
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So? A person or 2 that posted above said they can't. Maybe your account is set up specifically for it already. The specifics of your situation might not meat the same as others.
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So? A person or 2 that posted above said they can't. Maybe your account is set up specifically for it already. The specifics of your situation might not meat the same as others.
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You made it sound like only accounts with non-unlimited data can get free tethering.

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