[Q] Reverting to RUU keeps failing - HTC Amaze 4G

Following instructions in this forum, I'm trying to get back to a Telus ICS or even Froyo stock rom. My data connectivity is terrible to non-working on most ROMs (likely tuned for T-Mobile in build.props ro.ril settings from what I can tell) I've tried.
I've found the ota zip and ruu exe, both keep failing. I have "re-locked" and all that. I been scouring these forums for a couple of days, and I'm not finding anything that helps.
I finally give up, and am asking here. Any Telus tips very much appreciated.

Well because youre a Telus user most of the roms are made for Tmobile. So you'll need to change your apn settings.

lol. yes my apn is pointing to telus.
i think the rom issues are more to do with build.props. cm 10.1 nightlies work well. speedrom not so well.
anyway want to go back to stock. tried hansoon2000 tools etc. just keeps failing. yes have relocked. any logs i can check?
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Flash them with 4ext
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Been hacking the install scripts of the telus ota ruu. They check for specific Telus fingerprint. But I still get errors after removing those asserts. Sigh. Exe ruu for gb original rom needs older hboot. But since I had already upgraded to ics ota from Telus the Exe won't install. Any hope of getting back to Telus ota ics version after applying a custom tmous rom? Any Telus not tmous users out there have any ideas?
Anyway good news is fourth attempt at speedom 8 seems to be the charm. Have working wifi tether with good data connection and netflix is usable again. My first attempts had terrible netflix with tether never working. But I may have tried too much at once by using faux123 kernel. Stock kernel seems to like my phone better.
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Flash the ruu you want while Soff and Supercid and using 4ext..this will guarantee that the rom, bootimage and kernel all fash... Maybe also use superwipe before flashing..
From what I know using this method should work.. As the advantages of Soff and 4ext will fix you up
Also in the Android general section here on xda you can modify the build #of your htc boot loader with a program (can't remember the name)
Edit.. Here it is.. Dunno if it's any good tho
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786498
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Ok.. Not soff or supercid
4ext let's me do custom kernels and rooms without soff. I am just unlocked using htcdev.
Must be why I am having such troubles getting back to square one.
But now finally have a stable custom rom I will give a week before I try again. Thanks for the link.
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Ok, silly questions, unlocked, s-off now ready to flash

Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
loki993 said:
Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
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ROMs generally will never have firmware present unless it specifically states otherwise (perhaps somebody will release one after an OTA if there's a new firmware update). Prior to last week, we all had S-ON (well most of us) so all ROMs came with a script that would dump the boot.img (kernel and RAMdisk) into a PH98IMG.zip, then reboot to bootloader so you can flash it.
Use the old firmware patch for ICS ROMs only if you are on HBOOT 2.11 or lower.
I'm not sure about mainver issues... I don't think they matter now... but if you do get that error there's a simple fix thats been around for awhile.
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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loki993 said:
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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Thanks for this thread, answered some of my nagging questions
Andro X said:
The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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I understand, its ok. You right though dont know what I was thinking, of course the system gets wiped.
Im debating which ROM to run now. I was going to go with one of the BAMFs, but I also would mind a senseless ROM either.
Is it wrong that I actually kinda like Sense, I just wish it didnt bog the phone at times.
Also I thinking its probably best to say on the 2.11 firmware, that way I can still run GB if I want and go to ICS ROMS too if I want with the patch.
I like sense too especially since this is my first HTC phone so its something different for me. I had Motorola's in the past. I'm on GB firmware with the eng hboot and running ics Clean Rom.
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Well Sense is certainly an upgrade for me from TouchWiz....I miss a few things but overall it is better...
I think you would be happy with CleanROM, extremely fast and reliable ICS build. You would never know it wasn't stock.
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Not sure about MT4G, but I don't think the control bear program can access everything it needs on the Rezound without being unlocked. Just a guess mind you .
Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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You have to be rooted to acquire s-off. Up until this point you had to be unlocked to acquire root. Now, if you are s-off you can root without unlocking. It's a vicious circle! Lol!
I just haven't gotten to unlock since I don't have home internet access
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[Q] ? about wanting to run ICS VM leak

Ok so i have been out of the ROM loop for a bit, so i figured i would ask questions before trying to do so. I am wanting to run the newest ROMs running the leaked ICS VM base, but everywhere i see, it says to upgrade your firmware? I've looked all over the place and have yet to see the upgradeable firmware i need to do so! Can anyone please clarify this for me or at least point me in the right direction.
You don't need to upgrade anything. I'm on the original firmware and the only thing that was working,but has since stopped was the camera. I also haven't updated the rom since it was released, so that could be the problem. I did run into a problem when I first installed it. Using rm -rf instead of formatting the partitions did not work. It kept boot looping, but changing it back to format worked.
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well see my issue now is that i flashed it just fine like i would any other ROM (no FW upgrade) but it sits on the splash screen. this now happens with ALL ICS ROMs. at first they randomly rebooted but now the only ones that work on it are older ROMS (GB, FROYO) but ICS will not boot. i guess i might have to wait until the offical release hits for us
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well see my issue now is that i flashed it just fine like i would any other ROM (no FW upgrade) but it sits on the splash screen. this now happens with ALL ICS ROMs. at first they randomly rebooted but now the only ones that work on it are older ROMS (GB, FROYO) but ICS will not boot. i guess i might have to wait until the offical release hits for us
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DO NOT FLASH THE VIRGIN MOBILE FIRMWARE / VIRUS!!!!!!!!
As for the bootlooping, if you are hboot 1.5 s-on, then ICS does that unless you use Chad's kernel (which breaks USB and 3d camera). I recommend you get s-off by downgrading to hboot 1.4 or use the wire trick. See my signature or the stickes in the cdma development forum (assuming you are CDMA) for more information.
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Calm down bud. There is no virus but he is correct. Do not update if you have hboot 1.5 if you are s off then fire ahead using the update package from freeza. Then use the mod to convert it to sprint. After that go be flash happy.
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I'm not the one who called it a virus - many of the devs who worked tirelessly trying to rid our phones of that firmware coined that one. From what I've read throughout the forums, I would highly recommend against flashing that, even using the mod to convert it to Sprint. Every ICS ROM I have tried (CDMA) has ran fine using Freeza's all in one version 2.17.
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Well if he gets s offed then he can choose himself haha. I prefer to use the vm firmware. Seems perfect for me. But yet again I've been here from the beginning. Got s off the first day revolutionary was released to public and all that.
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Could be only s-on people had issues removing it, but I personally would not risk it. The ics roms all work fine without it if you are s-off. Deadlocked I am genuinely asking (seriously not trying to be argumentative): what benefit you see from using it since afaik, there is none.
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S-Off help?

Im currently s-on unlocked running Clean rom 4.5 developers edition and my hboot version is 2.10 with the GB patch. I've been thinking about attempting s-off but so far the one step I need to figure out is how to get back to a stock gb or ics rom (prerequisite to performing s-off I believe)
What are my options here? Do I need to re-lock my phone, run a ruu, then unlock again?
Is there a zip file I can flash to get a stock rom loaded without re-locking then unlocking?
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
Jbear s-off wants a stock rooted phone because it is too much for their tech support people to deal with all the many ROMs in existence.
A Rom that is close to stock like cleanrom has a good chance of working with the jbear s-off process, but I do not know for sure.
Since you have gingerbread firmware, you should use the gingerbread rezound jbear download, IF you decide to attempt it.
On the other hand we have official ics now, and you might as well move onto it rather than using gingerbread firmware and a ROM that will never get updated because the author moved on to buy a different smart phone.
The ics ruu will do a factory reset and wipe the internal sdcard. The removable microSD card should be left untouched. you will need to relock the bootloader to run the ruu, but it easy to relock with hansoon's all in one toolkit if you have saved your htcdev.com unlock bin file.
Here is the official ics ruu file, if you decide to install it.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
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Thanks for the response! I've downloaded the ruu for ics & I still have the htc unlock code. I will give this a try hopefully this weekend
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Is juniperbear working on a S-Off file for the newest RUU 4.03.605.2 or should we just use the 3.14 to get S-off then install the newest RUU 4.03
troy7548 said:
Is juniperbear working on a S-Off file for the newest RUU 4.03.605.2 or should we just use the 3.14 to get S-off then install the newest RUU 4.03
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I was on 605.2 when I used juniperbear's method.
I recommend using an insulated paper clip. I got s-off after 2 tries on my wife's phone.
Which download from juopuntobear did you use with the 605.2 ics?
It doesn't look like it is supported on their site...
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bkhorn said:
I was on 605.2 when I used juniperbear's method.
I recommend using an insulated paper clip. I got s-off after 2 tries on my wife's phone.
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I tried a paperclip and it would not take. I ended up using a piece of 20 gauge wire from an old RC battery pack. Worked then.
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Anyone? Which jupontobear download do you use with the latest 605.2 ics?
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1967ls2 said:
Anyone? Which jupontobear download do you use with the latest 605.2 ics?
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the one for ics .5
Perfect, I will make sure to download that one when trying this.
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Alright, I got my refurb, and have unlocked it. It has the .12 Firmware. I can't find a simple way to root the new firmware. Nils 1 click root isn't helping. What can i do to root it. I have Amonra Recovery, and stock rom..Any help is appreciated.
Download superSU and flash in amonra. You should be good to go.
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I had been reading so many different guides that I was suffering from information overload. I couldn't believe I overlooked something so simple. Thanks for the,quick reply, and it shows it doesn't take someone with a lot of posts to help someone who usually is a old hat at this.
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confused semi-noob, please help
Currently running rezrom ex v.3.4 with ics 3.11.605.22. I have seen this question asked a few times in different places throughout the forum but am still a little unsure as to what is best or whether it matters at all. I've heard it is best to return to stock rom before attempting s-off but I've also heard that others with my rom have not had any problems. So if I s-off with my current rom, and it works, I will still have root and be able to flash the most current ruu, right? Where as if I were to try to flash the most current ruu now, I would have to first relock the bootloader, then once on the new ruu, I would have to unlock from htcdev again and flash amon ra again and re-root before being able to s-off. If I have this right, then there is no real downside (besides it possibly not working) to trying to s-off now with my current rom. In fact, it would be less time consuming and less confusing, correct? I've been trying to read everything possible on getting my phone to s-off, but I think at this point, I'm just getting more confused with the more I read.
I wish I had an answer for you. Im in the same boat as you, read a lot, still confused.
I think im in boat number two, re lock, flash newest ics ruu, unlock, try to s-off, but what im not 100% sure of is which juopuntobear to download & use.
Post back in the thread if you are able to s-off with the rom your running. Maybe I will try with the rom im running & just say screw it.
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You are supposed to use the version that is current with the ruu that your running. For instance, mine is the early ics leak. If you update to a more current ruu when reverting to stock, you should choose one that jb made a exploit for (v. 3.13..., or 3.14...). Of course, I'm still semi-noon so this is just my best educated guess from my studying of these forums. I would be very grateful if one of the devs would correct me though... Please.
i did it!
So I decided to s-off with my current Rom installed. It worked but my phone didn't recognize my ext sd. I tried all the fixes available and nothing worked, so instead, I flashed the newest ruu. That fixed my problem but I didn't have recovery anymore. I found a ph98img for an older version of amon ra and replaced the IMG file in the zip with a recent version and edited the text file to show my current mainver. I flashed the new ph98img rough bootloader and now have amon ra and was able to flash a new Rom. The reason I used a ph98img was because I was no longer around a pc to flash it through fastboot. It all worked great but took a bit of time.
Nice! Glad it all worked out. I guess I would need to download juopuntobear for gb & try that.maybe I will give it a try.
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New OTA 2.13 Root via HTC Dev

Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
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I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
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pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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Please Help - Rooted Evo 3D (2.3.3/ 1.13) ---> ICS?

What would be the best way to update both the software and to ICS? Through a rom or another form?
Find a rom in the development forum that you want, and flash it, simple as that. Most ICS roms work fine with older firmwares such as yours. If you want straight up stock, no tweaks or changes, check out virus's thread, he has stock roms with root access, if you want a different ICS rom, by all means go flash one. The worst that can happen is it doesnt boot/gives you bootloops, in which case you just flash a rom you know works, or run the ruu and start from square one again. No harm no foul
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Thanks for the quick replies. I was only asking because I've had this evo rooted since day one using the Synergy ROM and Ziggy's OC kernel and I haven't had any problems, at all. Looked into some new roms over time that seemed to be "based" off of the the newer sprint shooter software, so I didn't know if I had to manually updated to that version first as I am still on 1.13 and not 2.08 etc. Finally, will this change my Hboot? (I'm on 1.4)
Also, do I need to revert kernels first? Since this one probably wont work with ICS
Gabeomatic said:
Thanks for the quick replies. I was only asking because I've had this evo rooted since day one using the Synergy ROM and Ziggy's OC kernel and I haven't had any problems, at all. Looked into some new roms over time that seemed to be "based" off of the the newer sprint shooter software, so I didn't know if I had to manually updated to that version first as I am still on 1.13 and not 2.08 etc. Finally, will this change my Hboot? (I'm on 1.4)
Also, do I need to revert kernels first? Since this one probably wont work with ICS
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All it is, is just software, hboot and radios don't really have to do much with Sprint stuff. Most ics roms have intentionally been modified to work with older softwares
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