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anyone know that what is difference between Unofficial CM9 Nightly and alpha 0.6 ?
hki_peter said:
anyone know that what is difference between Unofficial CM9 Nightly and alpha 0.6 ?
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Nightlies are probably going to be less stable.
Basically, when you get a nightly, it's not yet been released. It's what somebody was working on last night...when they quit working on it, whether successful in what they had been working on or not, it was uploaded - hence the name, nightly.
And now you know.
And knowing's half the battle.
sean is here. said:
Nightlies are probably going to be less stable.
Basically, when you get a nightly, it's not yet been released. It's what somebody was working on last night...when they quit working on it, whether successful in what they had been working on or not, it was uploaded - hence the name, nightly.
And now you know.
And knowing's half the battle.
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Well its slightly more than just something someone happened to be working on and left it!
I'm using the KANG of 20120216 and finding it is far better than my experience with .06!
And I'm about to flash 20120217.
pa49 said:
Well its slightly more than just something someone happened to be working on and left it!
I'm using the KANG of 20120216 and finding it is far better than my experience with .06!
And I'm about to flash 20120217.
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EDIT: I re-read this reply after posting my response, and the first sentence is just incorrect. A 'nightly' is nothing "more than just something someone happened to be working on and left it".
The rest is subjective opinion, but the definition of what a nightly is can be found clearly explained below.
I think you've misunderstood me, or something else somewhere along the line.
I'm not saying that they're better or worse than official releases.
I was merely pointing out that the way they come about, is that they aren't fully evaluated and tested for stability in order to be released publicly as a finished product.
Before a major release, devs will typically spent time testing their software themselves, in addition to sending it out to 'focus groups' (they aren't REALLY focus groups but serve the same function) where they are further tested...then upon completion of testing, or when a threshold of minimum functionality has been reached (often with a pre-specified maximum number of bugs or critical failures) they can be released publicly.
Nightlies don't go through that extensive testing. That's where the name comes from. The devs 'clock out' and the ROM is built, and posted as a 'nightly'.
From the CM Team:
... Lastly we have the Nightlies, which are as volatile as a firmware can get. These releases keep coming at an interval of a day or two and if you do end up trying one of these, do not be alarmed if the your device goes cuckoo on you. These ROMs are largely untested, and as advised by CyanogenMod, not meant for use for an average user. These releases, are meant to test untested waters with tweaked codes that may or may not break your phone.
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My understanding was that the nightlies were being built automatically by a script that pulls the most recent source from the cm server. As new code is added daily by devs it is automatically put into nightly builds for testing.
joggerman said:
My understanding was that the nightlies were being built automatically by a script that pulls the most recent source from the cm server. As new code is added daily by devs it is automatically put into nightly builds for testing.
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As far as I'm aware, you are correct.
Hey guys,
I just want to add, the one of the developers of the official CM9 alpha release is recommending users install the nightly as there may not be an official update pushed put anytime soon.
http://liliputing.com/2012/02/nightly-builds-of-cyanogenmod-9-for-the-hp-touchpad-now-available.html
Anyone know which nightly is pretty stable?
wonshikee said:
Anyone know which nightly is pretty stable?
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go for alpha 1 as dalingrin said the nightlies won't be based on alpha 1 until a few days later.
This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
tehkingo said:
This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but you kind of didn't answer my question in any way.
a) What's wrong with AOKP?
b) I know Paranoid is JB, that's why I mentioned it. Are you saying it's stock JB? Kinda confused on the wording here.
c) Obviously, you're a fan of CM10 (aka CMX). What makes it so good compared to the other two? I see the thread for it has more posts (and thus seems to be more popular), but why?
Again, I'm not trying to be difficult. Just hoping to get an answer without having to flash 3 different ROMs.
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
Rxpert said:
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
tehkingo said:
Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
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No problem. I would suggest trying them all, since there are differences between each of them.
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
Rxpert said:
It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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Ah, gotcha. Sorry for the attitude.
What is the most stable (non-stock) rom available for 8GB Nook Tablets? Seems like CM10 is pretty buggy so far?
**EDIT** Can a mod move this to the Q&A forum?
evolart said:
What is the most stable (non-stock) rom available for 8GB Nook Tablets? Seems like CM10 is pretty buggy so far?
**EDIT** Can a mod move this to the Q&A forum?
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CM10 is not buggy at all any more. At least not the ones I have tried. I don't have enough to compare with to say which one is best, and I also think it's frowned upon to discuss that here. Read a few pages of each of the ROMS to get an idea of what issues there might be in them.
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CM10 is not buggy at all any more. At least not the ones I have tried. I don't have enough to compare with to say which one is best, and I also think it's frowned upon to discuss that here. Read a few pages of each of the ROMS to get an idea of what issues there might be in them.
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Interesting the reason I asked that is because after reading through many pages of 3 different CM 10 based ROMS there appeared to be a large number of unresolved bugs. I will have to try one out.
Well, I have been running Succulent's 1208 build from another place than here (but I think you can find it here as well) since it came out (dec 8) and haven't had a single issue (once I got it flashed properly)! I ran it from sd for a couple of weeks to make sure it ran good enough before flashing it internally.
I hear good things about other ROMs as well, so I don't think I just happened to stumble upon the only reasonably stable one!
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Well, I have been running Succulent's 1208 build from another place than here (but I think you can find it here as well) since it came out (dec 8) and haven't had a single issue (once I got it flashed properly)! I ran it from sd for a couple of weeks to make sure it ran good enough before flashing it internally.
I hear good things about other ROMs as well, so I don't think I just happened to stumble upon the only reasonably stable one!
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Sounds good I will try that one out after making sure I have a good nand backup. Thanks for the info.
The most stable NT ROM is based off CM7. The ones I have tried are rock stable. They have had plenty of time to mature nicely.
To date I have tried all but one JB build from these forums. From my humble experience I will try to sum my experiences to date:
ROMs based on CM10 and ASOP 4.1 are stable, power efficient, with maybe one or two minor quirks - which are almost easy for my eye for perfection to ignore. I want to point out that these quirks could be unique to my NT and the 100 plus apps I play with. I say this because some of the earlier builds I tried seemed more solid on my NT than the later improved builds. But what do I know, It's all PFM!
Stepping out on a limb here I'll say from my two weeks or so experience with ASOP 4.2 and CM10.1 that these builds are stable - no boinks, no crashes. I did have to fool about with uninstalling and reinstalling some apps to get them to chill. There may be one or two things that aren't functioning 100%, like for instance, maybe the microphone - but I can live with little things like that. I find the advantages of the overall build greater than the loss of a menu item, lack of customization or microphone or being able to keep my tablet unplugged for two days. These things will be ironed out in time by the brilliant minds too numerous to mention here.
In conclusion I have never run in to a such a buggy build here at xda that made me throw anything at a wall nor regret trying a ROM. A scream or two maybe resulted, but that was my fault. Follow directions, work smart and be happy. :cyclops:
I swear to god this thread gets posted weekly.
Cubanluke88 said:
I swear to god this thread gets posted weekly.
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Yes, yes it does. And most of them are too damn lazy to actually read more than 1 or 2 pages of the ROM information. Or feel the search feature isn't necessary for them. Why do the work when I can have it spoon fed to me. The internet, the only place in the world, packed full of knowledge and yet people keep getting dumber/lazier. But damn if we don't love our kitty pictures and videos.
Sent from my CM 10 nook. Thanks devs.
"Search?" Isn't that Google's job? The first thing that came up didn't tell me step by step exactly what to do so I'm trying to get other people to do it for me...
Sent from my NT running Kuzma's CM10.1
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evolart said:
What is the most stable (non-stock) rom available for 8GB Nook Tablets? Seems like CM10 is pretty buggy so far?
**EDIT** Can a mod move this to the Q&A forum?
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The CM7 based ROMs are going to be the most stable, but most of the current CM10 ROMs are also quite stable. My Nook is currently running one of the CM10 ROMs posted
Guys, I've lost touch with this thread since I've gone to the Note II on Verizon. I am wanting to give my brother my old Note since he has AT&T and the phone is just sitting unused, but I left my previous Note being a mess with force closes and all and he is not good with technology so I want the most stable ROM for him that I can overclock too. Any recommendations on ROM's and Kernels? I would like Jelly Bean if possible. Suggestions would be appreciated and then I'll check them out. Thanks.
Just return it to stock.
Does this mean there's nothing stable but stock!
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Does this mean there's nothing stable but stock!
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No, but it does mean that if you ask the question of 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers back. Some people will flash a new ROM, not have a reboot in 24 hours, and consider that "stable". It doesn't sound like the OP's brother will care about a rooted phone or running custom ROMs, so reverting it back to stock will probably be best for him.
Agreed.....
Stock phone would likely be best in this application...g
BUMP.
I haven't had time but am on a week long vacation and really want to do this now. Stock is not really the answer I want. I would like to know the most stable ROM made that keeps all the Samsung apps and S Pen usability, but even more than that is running Jelly Bean. Can anyone point me to which posts to look at and decide, or just give me their opinion on them if they use them. And what is the best kernel for that, cause I would like to overclock. I will start looking myself, but would love to hear some opinions, not just "stick to stock". I have ran many, many ROMs over the years that were pretty stable without being stock. I am just out of touch with the Note 1 as I have had the Note 2 for awhile and hadn't done anything to my Note 1 in quite some time. I believe I was running Paranoid Android (charging it now) but would prefer a closer to stock based ROM. Thanks. I would rather have Jelly Bean over the Samsung apps and S Pen apps, so the most stable or Jelly Bean ROMs would be good to know.
DavidT909 said:
BUMP.
I haven't had time but am on a week long vacation and really want to do this now. Stock is not really the answer I want. I would like to know the most stable ROM made that keeps all the Samsung apps and S Pen usability, but even more than that is running Jelly Bean. Can anyone point me to which posts to look at and decide, or just give me their opinion on them if they use them. And what is the best kernel for that, cause I would like to overclock. I will start looking myself, but would love to hear some opinions, not just "stick to stock". I have ran many, many ROMs over the years that were pretty stable without being stock. I am just out of touch with the Note 1 as I have had the Note 2 for awhile and hadn't done anything to my Note 1 in quite some time. I believe I was running Paranoid Android (charging it now) but would prefer a closer to stock based ROM. Thanks. I would rather have Jelly Bean over the Samsung apps and S Pen apps, so the most stable or Jelly Bean ROMs would be good to know.
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I cant offer you a JB stock build for our note 1, because that build does not exist.
Since kernel source for JB has not been released, we are forced to use the JB framework blobs, combined with a modified ICS kernel.
This leaves us a broken rom, that has many working features, and is for the most part stable. But like all custom builds, leaves us with some bugs.
The "leave it stock" statement is not meant to be offensive. It simply is the truth at this point, as we have no official, "stable" JB builds. Although this site does offer many high quality JB variant builds. And no one person can tell you the best one, as our usage habits differ so greatly. You simply need to read the threads, and base your opinion on the user reports from the threads.
It is our hope that Samsung will release an update for us, and open the door on some amazing JB work. but until that happens, we will have bugs, and broken functionality.
I use a very nice ICS build on occasion, as I feel that it offers the best performance, balanced with a feature rich rom.
FlappJaxxx UCLF6 build #12 is my top pick at the moment.
Unfortunately, the rules prevent my linking the rom directly for you, as the developer is no longer on XDA. but his works can be found at rootdev.org in it's complete form. and I for one feel that until we see an official update, no better ICS/ JB variant work can be found than his.
and I'm sure that if/when the update comes, the same will be said for his quality of builds in the JB framework and beyond.
He has true talent for building outstanding code. And you are well served using his wares. I hold much respect for Flappjaxxx, despite his leaving XDA. And I'm greatful to have his work at my disposal.
Good luck in your search, and happy flashing.....g
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I cant offer you a JB stock build for our note 1, because that build does not exist.
Since kernel source for JB has not been released, we are forced to use the JB framework blobs, combined with a modified ICS kernel.
This leaves us a broken rom, that has many working features, and is for the most part stable. But like all custom builds, leaves us with some bugs.
The "leave it stock" statement is not meant to be offensive. It simply is the truth at this point, as we have no official, "stable" JB builds. Although this site does offer many high quality JB variant builds. And no one person can tell you the best one, as our usage habits differ so greatly. You simply need to read the threads, and base your opinion on the user reports from the threads.
It is our hope that Samsung will release an update for us, and open the door on some amazing JB work. but until that happens, we will have bugs, and broken functionality.
I use a very nice ICS build on occasion, as I feel that it offers the best performance, balanced with a feature rich rom.
FlappJaxxx UCLF6 build #12 is my top pick at the moment.
Unfortunately, the rules prevent my linking the rom directly for you, as the developer is no longer on XDA. but his works can be found at rootdev.org in it's complete form. and I for one feel that until we see an official update, no better ICS/ JB variant work can be found than his.
and I'm sure that if/when the update comes, the same will be said for his quality of builds in the JB framework and beyond.
He has true talent for building outstanding code. And you are well served using his wares. I hold much respect for Flappjaxxx, despite his leaving XDA. And I'm greatful to have his work at my disposal.
Good luck in your search, and happy flashing.....g
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Thanks for the reply. I remember Flappjaxxx. I will definitely take a look at this. I know all ROMs have problems. Just looking for a more stable than others one that is more up to date than just stock. Thanks, will give it a try.
DavidT909 said:
Thanks for the reply. I remember Flappjaxxx. I will definitely take a look at this. I know all ROMs have problems. Just looking for a more stable than others one that is more up to date than just stock. Thanks, will give it a try.
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Always welcome....g
Found the ROM. Which kernel and modem are you using?
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Found the ROM. Which kernel and modem are you using?
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Use the kernel already present in the rom...
And use the UCLF6 modem.....g
I'd recommend ptmr3's Padawan V8 7005 Base OR Padawan 5.1 UCLF6 . I've been running Padawan ROMs for 5 months and they all have been pretty stable. Take a look! :good:
Flapjaxxxx's FJKang is really stable, along with his h0tcakez kernel. It's 4.2.2 JB, too.
One of my favorite roms is definitely AOCP 4.1.2. Not the latest jb but by far one of the most stable roms I've ever used.
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One of my favorite roms is definitely AOCP 4.1.2. Not the latest jb but by far one of the most stable roms I've ever used.
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Do you mean this one?
[ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
lolTrout said:
Flapjaxxxx's FJKang is really stable, along with his h0tcakez kernel. It's 4.2.2 JB, too.
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I was searching for stable as well. This one seems to be a good choice.
So is jelly beer.
Zeddock.
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DavidT909 said:
Do you mean this one?
[ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
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Yes, but the 4.1.2 build. That one is 4.2.2 and while it is pretty stable I still find the 4.1.2 version to be a bit more solid. There's a link to older builds in that thread I believe.
I am not an expert. I know very little about these ROMs.
I AM A USER.
I always look for a stable but capable, and fast ROM. I love some of the freedoms these flashes give to me, and some of the "flow" of using my phone is better when stupid stuff is turned off and productive stuff is turned on and preinstalled.
Everyone is different and that is why many EXPERTS here will suggest trying each one.
For me, I do NOT like flashing. I do it when I feel there is a reasonable step forward or I hit issues and support dwindles for my current ROM.
All that said... Today...
I am pretty happy with flapp jaxxx and jellybeer.
Good luck. Hope this helps! Just my simple perspective... From a USER.
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I'm looking for a new ROM that will be relatively trouble-free, but is also actively supported/updated.
I love the UX/features/philosophy of SlimBeam ROM on my Note, but it does suffer from some instabilities.
Unfortunately, SlimBean for the I717 hasn't been updated in ages and is no longer in their list of supported devices. (Is it possible to run ROMs written for the Note N7000 on a Note I717?)
The I717 also does not support the newest version of CyanogenMod.
I've read thru the ROMs in the Development forums, but does anybody have info on which are still active projects and which are dead ends?
Any recommendations (for or against particular roms)?
Thanks.
Go to the AT&T Galaxy Note I717 Android Development section for what you are looking for.
cheshyre said:
I'm looking for a new ROM that will be relatively trouble-free, but is also actively supported/updated.
I love the UX/features/philosophy of SlimBeam ROM on my Note, but it does suffer from some instabilities.
Unfortunately, SlimBean for the I717 hasn't been updated in ages and is no longer in their list of supported devices. (Is it possible to run ROMs written for the Note N7000 on a Note I717?)
The I717 also does not support the newest version of CyanogenMod.
I've read thru the ROMs in the Development forums, but does anybody have info on which are still active projects and which are dead ends?
Any recommendations (for or against particular roms)?
Thanks.
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i build slim 4.2.2 on a regular basis, your clearly looking at the 4.1.2 version in original development
all the releases i put out see regular updates actually, slim/pk/chamelon/supernexus ect..
edit: and your looking at the wrong place for cm, quincyatt is very well up in the mix with the newest cm releases, get.cm <-- thats where you find the releases
Anytime you choose a "custom" rom there's going to be bugs, or glitches, or random reboots in my opinion. But you're also going to get cool features! You'll have the ability to customize you phone more with custom roms. So it's a trade off. Only you can decide what you can live with and without. If you're looking for custom roms the dev usually updates the title with the last time he updated it. You can then read over the first post and find out what's included feature wise. Very very rarely will you find a complete list of bugs the rom has. You have to surf thru posts to see complaints, and kudos. If you're looking for stability, the i717 got an 4.1.2 JB update a week or so ago. It's the most stable thing out in my opinion. You can give it root access, debloat it, and enjoy a smooth rom if that's what you're after.
Oh and its not possible to run N7000 roms as far as I know. I'm pretty sure you'll brick your device.
I hope that info helps ya out a lil.
JamieD81 said:
i build slim 4.2.2 on a regular basis, your clearly looking at the 4.1.2 version in original development
all the releases i put out see regular updates actually, slim/pk/chamelon/supernexus ect..
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Thanks.
I'm still on Slim-i717-3.1.0-OFFICIAL.
Do you know if 4.2.1 stable 1.0 is available anywhere for the I717?
And how stable are the 4.2.2 builds? (I've spent enough years in sw development to be cautious - Mark Twain once wrote "People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made," and the same definitely applies to software)
In my opinion the 4.2 based custom ROMs are way my stable then the 4.1.2 based ( the exception is 4.1.2 based stock ROMs) used to get a reboot every couple hours . 4.2 rarely do I see one. If you are looking for stable but don't really care about all the frills try Jamie's super nexus the first build is bullet proof pure asop like your phone is a nexus doesn't see a lot of updates but its stable.
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