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Should we easily able to get these applications working? Is there something we still missing or the Devs are just taking the time and working on gingerbread right now (understandable)?
Bump, Bump, Bump
I've bumped the thread in the Dev section because I desperately want HDMI mirroring in landscape mode. No one's answering the call though.
Could you maybe bump it? Hopefully it catches someone's attention!
Where are they? They are patiently waiting to be developed and then implemented into a rom. Just b/c the bootloader was unlocked doesn't mean every option you desire will just appear. These things take time. Im sure you didn't mean to sound demanding but you did. Maybe make a simple request instead and more importantly, have patience.
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J-man67 said:
Where are they? They are patiently waiting to be developed and then implemented into a rom. Just b/c the bootloader was unlocked doesn't mean every option you desire will just appear. These things take time. Im sure you didn't mean to sound demanding but you did. Maybe make a simple request instead and more importantly, have patience.
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I know that, bro.
There are people who've said they were looking into it, and having an unlocked bootloader means a plethora or new venues are available to explore. Some have stated that a port of code from other devices might easily attain this once the bootloader was unlocked as well. So it's not unreasonable to ask if anyone's at least checked into it since the bootloader has been unlocked.
Not a peep has been spoken by any devs, which is why I'm asking for someone to break the silence. I'm not asking them to do this just for me, come to my house, flash it to my device and rub my feet.
anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
Post in the q&a and you'll find out. Plus revolution really is not hard if you follow the video.
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jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
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Wrong section, please pay attention to where you are posting next time.
In regards to your question, there really isn't an "easier way". The AlphaRev tool is one of the easiest I have ever seen. I suppose if that is too hard you could void your warranty and go the HTC route(Not Recommended).
i already did it with HTC. i want clockwork or something.
*sigh*
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Your fellow posters are correct. If you have a question, ask it in... wait for it... Q&A!
In the future, please do your best to help keep the site nice and tidy. You will gain a greater sense of self-worth and everyone will appreciate you and write poems about you and your progeny. Thanks!
ugh i want CWM installed
jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
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Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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dastin1015 said:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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thank you! ugh i really hope it does, i hate not being rooted.
Shoulda used Alpharevs revolutionary. Sorry. Not bein a ass. But you may have to wait awhile. Give it some time someone will fix it for ya.
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You will see claims from people in these forums that they were able to root and install recovery using HTC's unlocking, but those are false claims. All of those posters had been previously rooted using revolutionary.io. No one that took the OTA on a phone that hadn't previously been unlocked have been successful installing a custom recovery.
Basically you have an unlocked bootloader, now you will have to wait for someone to come up with an exploit like "rage against the cage" from the Evo to unlock the nand and attain s-off. If you had the original Evo 4g you will remember that in order to root you had to use unrevoked or Toast's method. Something similar to that will now be needed.
For those reading this your best option is to hold off using HTC's unlocker and if you haven't taken the 2.08 update use revolutionary.io to unlock your phone and if you did take the update or have a phone that came with the update, wait for an update to revolutionary.io.
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Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
JDAWS said:
(So what 10) Oh I can root my phone I'm so cool now! Really son? You probably wear your star trek costume at the same as worshipping your phone! Get a life
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Please look up.
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Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
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lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
SayWhat10 said:
lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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Amen! I totally agree.
Furthermore, vBulletin, phpBB, Wiki* and most technologies used to share and publish information and content are just terribly inefficient in regards to topics like these (Android, rooting, development, tech, etc.). Newcomers simply can not come into forums like these and find the info or content they want consistently. You can tag, break stuff up into sub-forums and make stickies like 3M 'til your blue in the face but until you fully understand a noob's thought process and behavior and have the software reflect that we forever will have these problems.
One temporary resolution is to try to change the one variable we can change in this equation. That is to try to cease the negative comments since we already know noobs and their questions are a constant.
Do not use the HTC root method, just use the Revolutionary method and before doing so download and copy TWRP and a ROM and flash in HBOOT\Recovery
root with s-on
Like an idiot, I unlocked my bootloader via official HTC way. I have not rooted my phone with revolutionary, my phone was completely stock. I was able to flash CWM via fastboot and install superuser via CWM.
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
oh mercyful lord, please forgive us, for we have forsaken the most sacred rule!
we have so forgotten that in hacking a device we must not only defeat all security measures on said device, we must do more then include instructions for free on how to do it yourself. we must make it so it does it for you.
/sarcasm
seriously dude? you think that this thought hadnt crossed anyones mind? unrevoked does htc, hence why there is no unrevoked for all the locked moto bootloaders. rather then complain about it take a dive, learn some code figure out how things work and try helping.
and in case you didnt pick up on the irony of it all, check teh dev section i have a one click... just need to fix it thats all >_>
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oh mercyful lord, please forgive us, for we have forsaken the most sacred rule!
we have so forgotten that in hacking a device we must not only defeat all security measures on said device, we must do more then include instructions for free on how to do it yourself. we must make it so it does it for you.
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seriously dude? you think that this thought hadnt crossed anyones mind? unrevoked does htc, hence why there is no unrevoked for all the locked moto bootloaders. rather then complain about it take a dive, learn some code figure out how things work and try helping.
and in case you didnt pick up on the irony of it all, check teh dev section i have a one click... just need to fix it thats all >_>
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Well said!
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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Dude No!
Look im here to learn android roms but been in IT computer and networks for years (im a WAN networks guy right now, mostly Cisco for the IP, contractor for AT&T and should be preping for my CCIE RS lab) you have no idea how cluless your post is..." I snap my fingers and I get a one shot "shrink wrap solution"...4 free..."
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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yeah way to bite the hand that feeds you...where i come from a dog like that gets put down for that sort of thing...
It takes some nerve to start a topic like this. If you don't like what it takes to unlock this phone feel free to find a better way yourself or move on to another phone.
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Mods please close this thread.
Guys, let's not let this forum get away from us. I've been apart of other forums that have been ruined by this same sense of entitlement. This stuff will all happen but you have to be patient. The Photon has only been out a very short time.
Besides, rooting is a very simple procedure with ADB. As Shabby said, the one click is on the way. Ticking off the developers is not the way to get things done faster. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. Please remember that before posting nonsense like this.
This thread is hilarious.
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I am by no means a dev or any major IT training, but I found the dock root very easy. I rooted 2 phones in about 10mins and it was my first time.
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Mods please close this thread.
Guys, let's not let this forum get away from us. I've been apart of other forums that have been ruined by this same sense of entitlement. This stuff will all happen but you have to be patient. The Photon has only been out a very short time.
Besides, rooting is a very simple procedure with ADB. As Shabby said, the one click is on the way. Ticking off the developers is not the way to get things done faster. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. Please remember that before posting nonsense like this.
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Dude please tell me you have a photon some midnight rom goodness in the future will be wonderful
Sent from my PHOTON blaster!
inimitableac said:
Dude please tell me you have a photon some midnight rom goodness in the future will be wonderful
Sent from my PHOTON blaster!
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He does. \orgasm\
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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Obviously written by someone who didn't have an Evo on launch day, and doesn't remember that Unrevoked wasn't out until the phone had been out for quite some time. The original root method for the Evo was considerably more difficult than the new Photon method.
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jwischka said:
Obviously written by someone who didn't have an Evo on launch day, and doesn't remember that Unrevoked wasn't out until the phone had been out for quite some time. The original root method for the Evo was considerably more difficult than the new Photon method.
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Exactly.....I seem to remember it being like 16 or 18 steps, with some flash websites and and several reboots involved......I remember it took me like 3 hours...this one took me all of 5 minutes following the instructions so graciously provided.....I personally would like to thank Shabby, Y4J, and Caulk, and everyone else for even getting root and an unlocked bootloader option so quick.....OP be thankful for what you got, when I was your age there wasnt even such a thing as a cell phone.....let alone a smartphone that can run NORAD off half of its CPU ....seriously
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how did u get yours unlocked, i couldnt figure it out
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Exactly.....I seem to remember it being like 16 or 18 steps, with some flash websites and and several reboots involved......I remember it took me like 3 hours...this one took me all of 5 minutes following the instructions so graciously provided.....I personally would like to thank Shabby, Y4J, and Caulk, and everyone else for even getting root and an unlocked bootloader option so quick.....OP be thankful for what you got, when I was your age there wasnt even such a thing as a cell phone.....let alone a smartphone that can run NORAD off half of its CPU ....seriously
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actually i didnt have anything to do with it i just got a request to come over and see if i could help out
after looking up the photon and the issues ive been having i want out of my ns4g
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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By the way you type and spell, maybe you are just too dumb for a method like this. I am a complete noob when it comes to rooting and didn't have a single problem following the instructions. Don't assume that others are as stupid as you are. Most people here are happy with what has been given to us.
Im sorry. I know the question wasn't great. But if its really ok for this guy to be torn a new one for a simple question then xda has really changed for the worst.
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Im sorry. I know the question wasn't great. But if its really ok for this guy to be torn a new one for a simple question then xda has really changed for the worst.
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Totally agree. He had a suggestion, he did not insult anybody's intellectual property, nor did he directly or indirectly insult any dev for not putting out good work. He simply indicated that current methods are a little involved and that in an ideal environment, we should strive for simplicity. I don't know any dev worth their salt who isn't compelled to debug their code, to improve it, and to learn from their mistakes. Frankly I'm a little surprised at the reaction. Especially the comment about wanting to put the OP "out of his misery." Where I come from, any analogy to terminating somebody's life is incendiary and uncalled for.
no it wasnt a suggestion, it was a call to the devs to hurry up and make things.
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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would you rather not have a way to unlock it?
again my issue with it is here is a guy who hasnt done anything saying this needs to be done. if someone steps up and says hey i wanna do this or starts to ask question so they can contribute. ive no issues with helping them, but to bold face claim that things need to be done, and on a timely schedule is an issue for me.
why? coming from the epic im sure a lot of users can agree with teh issues that phone had, too many people were run off by people demanding crap.
Guys please ignore these type of threads.... Comming from the epic i would hate for 99% of users to lose great amazing devs because of the demanding 1%
You guys are doing great please ignore the non sense.
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Hi,
I am a NOOB at android - the Jetstream being my 1st android device. Have come across some queries and was hoping that more experienced users and developers would be able to clear things out and may be even help us move further with our device - while HTC seems to have abandoned us more or less. To my understanding, getting S-OFF would enable us to write or mount any rom from any carrier onto our devices without the issue of having problems with compatibility, etc. Achieving root was the 1st step towards that. It would enable us to literally port another devices rom onto our device. Am I right?
It seems that Unknownforce and some others (sorry for not having mentioned them all as the list seemed quite exhaustive) have managed to downgrade their HBOOT to 1.50 on their HTC EVO 3D, and from there managed to achieve S-OFF which earlier seemed un-achievable with the newer version of HBOOT that HTC has been rolling out with their devices. Link is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
So, want to ask/request anyone if they would know if this procedure could be applied for the Jetstream as well and enable us to get S-OFF? Could anyone please help figure this out or help point us in the right direction?
Thanks to all who help out.
I am convinced that the development for Jetstream has reached its end, if it really got going. There are two or three ROMs. There just wasn't a community for the jetstream to gain enough interest and momentum for ROMs and Mods. The attention that it did get here was due to the ~$1,000.00 bounty that was on it for Rooting. All all attention will be on the ONE series in a few weeks.
I use my Jetstream daily. Wish it had a better presence in the android world as its such a beautiful device. But, I would love to see more development, just not on the edge of my seat expecting it.
If we could get some people with the device to volunteer and work with it for some development, it would be really good. I for 1 am willing to help any way I can with whatever limited knowledge I have. As Task650 has the device, we.could perhaps ask him for help/help him out. May be if we could get this method of s off to work, things could change. Now that the device costs lesser also, it may be hope for change for the better.
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I own a jetstream too. Bought 900usd without contract. I love it but hope there will be ics soon. I really want to s-off this device as I mantioned in several topics here. Hope someone do it.
feherhollo said:
I own a jetstream too. Bought 900usd without contract. I love it but hope there will be ics soon. I really want to s-off this device as I mantioned in several topics here. Hope someone do it.
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We all hoping for it. If some dev could look into the method used to get the EVO 3D S-OFF and see if it is sound or would be able to work or something, may be we could move it further. I for one am a NOOB with no knowledge whatsoever about coding, programming and the sort. So can not make head or tail of the logic behind it. Link again is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
So I PMed Unknownforce who is the creater for the thread I shared on the 1st post. His process for obtaining s-off as he said could work for an emmc device. I am unsure if the Jetstream is such a device but I think it probably is. Next, the hboot basically determines how the device accesses its partitions and is unique for each device. Hence, we can not flash the hboot of flyer or another device onto the Jetstream and try patching from there. He said it may work if the chip used is the same, but he wasn't too sure either. So, it means that we will have to figure out another way to obtain S-OFF. Anyways, we can hope that it will happen. And thanks to Unknownforce for taking time to answer some questions and trying to help out.
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Can someone please give me a good quality photo of the sim/sdcard area of a Jetstream with the cover removed, thanks.
globatron said:
Can someone please give me a good quality photo of the sim/sdcard area of a Jetstream with the cover removed, thanks.
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Here are the pictures. Hope this is what you wanted. Have blacked out the IMEI number and stuff which is seen.
Edit: Couldn't upload better resolution pictures due to size constraints. have sized them down. if you need better resolution pictures, will email them to you if needed.
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Can someone please give me a good quality photo of the sim/sdcard area of a Jetstream with the cover removed, thanks.
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By the way, what the pictures for?
globatron said:
Can someone please give me a good quality photo of the sim/sdcard area of a Jetstream with the cover removed, thanks.
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Hi, you asked for the pictures. I have posted them but don't know if this is what you meant or you needed something.else. also, don't know what you needed them for. If you could please share what your plans are it would be much appreciated. Thanks for the reply in advance.
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Can someone please give me a good quality photo of the sim/sdcard area of a Jetstream with the cover removed, thanks.
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Does anyone know how to contact globatron? He asked for these pictures for a reason I think. However have not heard from him or anything else whatsoever. We can't pm him so any alternate modes of contacting him to know what his plans were/are and if any development on that till now?
He has been able to figure out new method to obtain S-OFF for devices. So perhaps it would work for Jetstream too?
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I read about the "Juopunutbear S-OFF" at http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ht-juopunutbear-s-off-most-htc-2011s-line-up/ and it seems that what globatron would be looking for is probably the pictures of the board without the overlying plastic. The procedure involves a wire trick. So for that, I think he would require a pciture with the back removed, the screws undone. Unfortunately due to exams I am unable to devote much time for the next few weeks. Could anyone please check it out and post the pictures he actually requested for?
Thanks in advance and hope that he would be able to do something with them and get us S-OFF.
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Can someone please give me a good quality photo of the sim/sdcard area of a Jetstream with the cover removed, thanks.
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Hi, there is 1 Lucky person with an S-OFF Jetstream - BIGMOH. Is it possible to know what the difference is between his and our devices and thereby work backwards to gain S-OFF for us too? I did PM him and he has agreed to help us out the best he can. Neither do I nor does he have much of a knowledge about all this. Could some developer please help us out? DoomLord? Task650? Globatron?
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Hello!
If someone interested about that, Please send me a PM. I searching someone, which have a skills in C program leanguage, becose kernel requiered too much work for one man All info&question about work in PM
Hope anyone help me, work is in waiting mode, so that mean, When i´m working, then working for long time, but I lose my patience and then put work to back.
Sorry for my English
Bye
Želvica said:
Hello!
If someone interested about that, Please send me a PM. I searching someone, which have a skills in C program leanguage, becose kernel requiered too much work for one man All info&question about work in PM
Hope anyone help me, work is in waiting mode, so that mean, When i´m working, then working for long time, but I lose my patience and then put work to back.
Sorry for my English
Bye
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GOOD TO SEE there is still a developer here to continue woking on kernel.
I am sorry i do not have any skill on developing. IF i find something useful i will post here.
IF there are some other awesome guys working on the 3.4 kernel. Thanks to you all.
Želvica said:
Hello!
If someone interested about that, Please send me a PM. I searching someone, which have a skills in C program leanguage, becose kernel requiered too much work for one man All info&question about work in PM
Hope anyone help me, work is in waiting mode, so that mean, When i´m working, then working for long time, but I lose my patience and then put work to back.
Sorry for my English
Bye
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This guy "sun_dream" has made a sense 5 JB 4.1.2 rom on the HTC rezound!!
this is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2616664
Htc rezound and htc evo 3d have the same processor! maybe @sun_dream can help you to run kernel 3.4.10 in Htc evo 3D
Thanks so much!!