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Hello XDA,
As you may or may not know, the official CM9 Project for the HTC Amaze has not died at all. It is being worked on by developers like +Max Krivonos.
I am making this post mainly in hope of educating myself in regards to the development process and things realted to it.
I've been following the project since the day they released the video of what Max got working on the Amaze already. Over the course of many months, cable detection, SD card, and "wifi" was fixed. There are only problems like GSM and the Camera left. Now I understand that Max has been busy with a lot of things considering his comments on his update posts seem to say that, but I am just curious as to how long does it really take to get things like that fixed?
My HTC Amaze is only my second Android device to my HTC Sensation which I only had for about 2 months. I have never really followed a project exclusively so I have no idea as to what the average timeframe is. However, my main concern is that Max "opened the repo", and a leak for the ICS update already came out. Shouldn't this help a lot? There are already many developers who are pushing out very clean ROMs based off of the leak, and there's only around 2 problems with more than 1 developer working on the issues. How long does it really take?
I didn't want to bother Max and other devs by asking them because I'm sure they have a lot of things on their hands anyways. Like I said before, this is not meant to be negative in any way. I simply want to learn about this, because I have been very eager waiting for CM9 like everyone else.
bri.kwong94 said:
Hello XDA,
As you may or may not know, the official CM9 Project for the HTC Amaze has not died at all. It is being worked on by developers like +Max Krivonos.
I am making this post mainly in hope of educating myself in regards to the development process and things realted to it.
I've been following the project since the day they released the video of what Max got working on the Amaze already. Over the course of many months, cable detection, SD card, and "wifi" was fixed. There are only problems like GSM and the Camera left. Now I understand that Max has been busy with a lot of things considering his comments on his update posts seem to say that, but I am just curious as to how long does it really take to get things like that fixed?
My HTC Amaze is only my second Android device to my HTC Sensation which I only had for about 2 months. I have never really followed a project exclusively so I have no idea as to what the average timeframe is. However, my main concern is that Max "opened the repo", and a leak for the ICS update already came out. Shouldn't this help a lot? There are already many developers who are pushing out very clean ROMs based off of the leak, and there's only around 2 problems with more than 1 developer working on the issues. How long does it really take?
I didn't want to bother Max and other devs by asking them because I'm sure they have a lot of things on their hands anyways. Like I said before, this is not meant to be negative in any way. I simply want to learn about this, because I have been very eager waiting for CM9 like everyone else.
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i may be wrong so don't hold me to it. but i believe they need the wifi drivers which htc has not released yet to fully remove sense and get everything working. like i said i'm not positive but i think i read that somewhere else.
I think someone said Max quit working on it, and has posted his build online somewhere. As the poster above me said, it is because of the lack of source code atm. Once the ICS leak becomes "official", HTC should release the code. Keep in mind we're not really supposed to have this leak at the moment.
Max posted over a week ago that he was stopping his work on it as "he is just too busy" and released the repo.
jimczyz said:
Max posted over a week ago that he was stopping his work on it as "he is just too busy" and released the repo.
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Gosh, I had no idea because I couldn't find anything like that on Google+
Who will be working on it? I guess another thing i'm trying to ask is if it's impossible to derive the source-code from the leak.
Well I definitely understand were your coming from but I think we just have to be patient like its hard trying to pull the drivers that are specifically made for the sense it takes time to try and rework those drivers for an aosp rom so I guess it would be wise to just be patient and wait to see what spot or xboarder is doing. I know xborarder is on android-dev.us and he's working with a couple of ppl on a Tom so just be patient man.
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Sportsman is working on cm9 for us, we he has a alpha build already. Go to the development thread to see it.
Sportstar* I guess my autocorret got me.
Over 10000!!! You bet I am.
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Sportsman is working on cm9 for us, we he has a alpha build already. Go to the development thread to see it.
Over 10000!!! You bet I am.
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Is it any good?
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Is it any good?
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Its good only this the radios are broke so he is working know getting them fixed its a kernal this so we have to wait
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ryuken11221 said:
Its good only this the radios are broke so he is working know getting them fixed its a kernal this so we have to wait
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Yeah I remember reading his thread a while back. Kernels rely on official releases? Can't someone build their own kernel? Does it take a long time?
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Yeah I remember reading his thread a while back. Kernels rely on official releases? Can't someone build their own kernel? Does it take a long time?
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Well it all depends on how many devs are working on it so yes kernals are very difficult if you don't know what your doing or if your just new period but just keep looking out for it I think it will come sooner than you think
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So I was thinking earlier today, according to a few people, we apparently have RIL working just not a kernel source to make AOKP/AOSP stable.
I also thought, well, we have plenty of people still running GB ROMs and people on GB firmware. Why don't people try to put together a CM7.2 ROM since we do have source for GB.
I'm pretty sure Android is all about choice and variety so I ask someone who is experienced in porting, development, etc. Why doesn't someone get in touch with Tekk, or whoever has RIL working and pop out a CM7 (.2?) port, it's still AOSP so it'll hold people over and hell, some people would probably prefer it, not to mention that I'm sure people would rather have a form of Cyanogenmod over nothing at all.
I have no clue how, nor the computer to ever begin trying it, so it's why I ask.
This would definitely be nice. Cm7.2 is amazing on my incredible. I would love to see it on the rezound! Maybe... Just maybe...
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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No it won't because the sources are available
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con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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They got everything working in ICS, would NONE of it be able to work towards GB??
con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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I thought we had everything we needed available?
If RIL is fixed for ICS AOSP ROMs supposedly, and we're waiting for kernel source to get it stable, couldn't we translate the RIL fixes down to a GB AOSP ROM, I thought also since we have GB kernel source, all loose ends would be tied up?
We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out (which could come as early as next week or as late as 2 months from now, if the latest June-July report is accurate), why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out, why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
Flyhalf205 said:
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Which to me and probably many others is better than possibly nothing and if nothing else, just gives us some more variety which is never bad.
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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This I did not know, hence why I did ask about this;
I think this would great but idk if I could live without my apex launcher!!
Flyhalf205 said:
"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
I got sick of waiting for AOSP, so I found one a ROM I liked and I asked the original dev if I could try to port it. He said go for it, and so I started working on it. Once I have a something worthy of going public, it might just pop up somewhere...
Anyways, the point is, why do I see everybody asking for things but nobody willing to try and do it themselves? Isn't the whole point of Android the ability to tinker with it and make it do whatever you want?
...but, if you're going to depend on someone else to do it for you, it just doesn't seem fair to ask the developers here to "hurry up" or go out of their way to develop something they aren't interested in using themselves..
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
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I am attempting to learn btw
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I am attempting to learn btw
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Sometimes it's fun. haha pain most of the time
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I would love to learn, however I lack the time requirement to learn it with a full time + job, a three year old, a preggers wife, and a house to get ready for the new demon spawn. Sucks because I'd probably be pretty good at it too. I have no expectations on devs and will continue to patiently wait for anything they release.
Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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too many new phones coming out!
Great things come to those who wait...
How is it slowing down
We have like a new kernel every day. Read Chad's dev thread he is going warp speed on his progress and we are becoming the only second verizon phone aside form the nexus to have aosp ( tbolt had it because of slayer ).
So right about now, i think if i had the money, i would re-buy the rezound, finally the perfect merge between hardware and software.
And beside all that, all of the devs are busy with school , yet they still have time to try on jelly bean and work on it.
Instead of making a thread like that, i would take the time, go press your max 8 thank yous to every thread and buy them a cup of coffee.
Ok this came out a bit hostile, i am sorry about that, but we have a bunch of awesome devs right, its like we have la creme de la creme now, and i feel completely opposite from you.
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Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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Like the last guy said. I don't think it has slowed so much as it has shifted. Everyone seems to be working on soap now. Also school has started and people do have lives (i hope). It's still the weekend, get out there and enjoy it!
We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit 2: Oh it also looks like someone is working on paranoid android also hmm so what was it you wanted op a phone that prints cookies right before you get home?
mmm cookies that would be sick xD lawl
Edit 1: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
And we'll probably be getting jb quite soon.
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That's a very snide way to look at development. It's not like this stuff happens over night.
Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
zone23 said:
Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
1dog9 said:
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You're kidding, right? The dev thread gets updated every day or so, and I believe chad just managed to fix bluetooth. We're getting ready to start on JB. Just buy a new phone if you want instant gratification
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We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
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Im trying to build ParanoidAndroid from source for us atm, including all the fixes that have happened since the last build was made. Im learning this as I go but I got cm9 built so I know I can do it.
Antp's cm9 kang works great, I've been running it for a few days now and haven't had any compliants about it! Once Devin works on uberkernel more and cm9 reaches full stability on our phones it will be awesome. I was running Neo's adrenaline and it was good but cm9 totally kicks it's ass! The battery life is absolutely amazing, I've had my phone on for 5 hours and I'm at 72% when I'd usually be at about 30 when on a sense rom!
AshtonTS said:
Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
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hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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lithium630 said:
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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This community went through a lot. We love and respect our developers and their free work. We get riled up when people come and drive our dev away. If you want jb ( which i am sure is coming in due time ) then get the crappy nexus.
Dont forget, we have one of the only 3 phones on the network that can surf and talk on 3g, its a hard radio to figure but bec of out lightning speed developing , we now have aosp on one of the best hardware verizon has.
BTW, any one else think that verizon tech support are highly uneducated ... I keep trying to explain to them this surf and talk over 3g that makes it so special with our rezound and they go " yeah all of our 4g phones can do this on 4g networks , of if there is wifi and 3g. Are they retarted ???? what kind of crap is that , they dont even know their own phones ?
we should make more thread to ***** at verizon , not our devs. I would be down for that .
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Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
jayochs said:
hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
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I wouldn't say patting myself on the back, but rather relating my story for the OP
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
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I want a pony!
I vote we banish OP to my old phone. If this is slow development, then ours over there never even left the starting gate.
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
sounds good. can't wait to have it :fingers-crossed:
that would be great to have Ubuntu running naively on the prime!!
I can't wait. Running with chroot and vnc is not the same and it gets sluggish
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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no, they are not similar devices, they share a cpu/gpu combo, that is pretty much the end of it.
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Most likely yes. Most users looking for Ubuntu are probably unlocked considering that usually flashing anything besides an update requires unlocking.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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I wasn't clear, what I meant is that after canonical's anoncement I heard rumors from random people talking about that. And that always bugged me cuz I couldn't figure out how would they pull that off. But what u said makes more sense.
Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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This is real...just used the pure version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355
I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I should've been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. I'm really tired of the radio issues with yours. I've tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact I'm pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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I should been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. Im really tired of the radio issues with your's. Ive tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact Im pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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no its not
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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You know what I meant, i just used a bit of hyperbole. Its AOSP with TW elements underneath. The AOSP may go a little bit deeper than the skin, but its still pretty much AOSP outside and TW inside. TW inside was the OP's issue, and its inextricable from an S4 GE ROM. If you take all the TW elements away, its not really a GE ROM anymore. Unless Dubsy misinformed us, which I doubt.
And the OP's other issue, the radio, is pretty much always the main issue when porting from another device.
GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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Got to say I am with you on getting a good GE ROM. I have not tried Dubsy's latest, but nitro's 1.5 is pretty dang smooth. I had a few data drops yesterday, but I didn't notice any today (didn't use the phone as much, though), so if the data drops, it must come back. Going to be on radio all weekend, so I will get more experience with it. I think its stable enough for a DD.
Both Nitro's and Dubby's run fantastically with no data drops!
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I am really hopeful for Nitros. I was using his yesterday and liked it, but I still would like the radio to be ironed out.
Dubsys had many little issues that made it impossible to use on a daily basis. One problem I continue to have is that any phone number starting with "+1" must be redialed without the +1... half my contacts are like that and it is incredibly annoying.
For the amount of time Dubsy has had to work on it, I feel like this issues should've been addressed by now. I think I speak for a lot of the community here when I ask for a more experienced developers help on this GE port.
There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
Tortuga said:
There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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Especially considering devs on XDA share their work for free.
Tortuga said:
I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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Id love sbreen long time if he spent one night on this... that guys a wizard
dreallday said:
True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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I really don't care if you're upset to be honest. Don't follow my threads, and don't use my roms... Pretty simple really.
From the beginning I posted a proof of concept to prove data alone, nothing else. I said for devs to contact me and I'd send the files for them to maintain. When it was clear no one was going to pick up and run with it I started modifying the framework to be at least a bit more stable. With the open offer still out there to share a fully decompiled GE working folder in a shared cloud.
sent from my GE gs4