Hey guys
On the weekends I'm usually home and I do use my phone quite a bit..but I'm mostly sitting at my computer doing so.
Is it better for me to keep the phone plugged in or should I be letting it drain? I heard that large drain cycles are not good for the battery and will wear it out faster...I've learnt that with my original Samsung battery...I have an extended one, now.
I've searched around...some people say one thing, others say the opposite...so what's the deal, really?
Thanks,
Elliott
The battery is desinged to be drained, you can always use your device plugged in when you are about to run outta juice.
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Right...but if I'm going to be texting constantly on the phone...is it better to just leave the phone on charge while I'm using it, or keep draining it/charging it back up?
As I said, use it.
If battery is low, just charge it while you do.
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Thanks.
Anyone else have any info on this?
Elliott
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There was an article on XDA a while ago about the battery in mobile phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
Summary:
It doesnt matter if you keep it plugged in or not. It will do no damage to it.
What you shouldn't do with this kind of battery is draining it to 0% like some people suggest. In fact it is better to keep it charged above 40% to maximize the lifetime of your battery.
Here is also an other thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914417
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can.
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Avoid keeping your battery at 100%: Every source I referenced for this guide said the same thing about keeping your battery at a full capacity, but oranageinks.com explains [...]
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lol, we gotta get a lithium battery Ph.D here
I never let my battery die on me, I only do it once to get rid of fuel gauge (although some say that it fixs it on it own after three days or so) whenever I flash a new ROM.
I always let it frain to 15 % or something like that.
Starholdest said:
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
The second thread said:
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It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
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Lennyz1988 said:
It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
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Well I think they clearly contradict each other...one says to keep your battery charged up, the other says not to keep it at 100%...
I understand about the heat degrading batteries...but that's another discussion completely.
Anyone else have any opinion?
f-r said:
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
Sent from my digital submersible hovercraft.
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I wouldn't call myself obsessed...I'm just wondering if leaving it plugged in for a good portion of the day will reduce it's life. Because I did that with my original Samsung battery and it's barely usable for me now...just wondering if leaving it plugged in for long periods of time diminished it's life over a year and a half.
I think batteries don't like to be plugged all the time.
For what i've read in the last 4 years nobody knows exactly what's good and what's not for them.
You be the judge.
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I just did the conditioning thing for my battery.
Charged fully, then wiped battery stats, now i have to drain it.
How can i drain it FAST?
i have gps on, bluetooth on wifi on
watching a HQ youtube video while listening to music
why is it that when i dont want my battery to drain it drains fast as hell, but when i want it to drain it feels like an hour from 100 to 99?
how can i make this even faster??
Do a lot of rebooting always kills mine
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Do a lot of rebooting always kills mine
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holy ****, its working every reboot gets like 1% haha
97 more reboots to go
Turn gps on, go outside and actually use it with maps or navigation. Will kill your phone in 1 to 2 hours.
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Turn gps on, go outside and actually use it with maps or navigation. Will kill your phone in 1 to 2 hours.
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rather not its like 30 degrees outside here in Texas ha
so far, 31 minutes used and went from 100 to 76 an hour or two more, and BAM it'll be good.
I put a live wallpaper on and now its running like hell hahah
Even if you're indoors maps and searching for signal might help knock it down more.
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Deep cycling is really bad for Lithium-ion batteries. I don't know why people keep perpetuating this myth that you should do this after burning a ROM. I blame Team Whiskey et all, etc . . . blah blah (You flashed our ROM now recalibrate your battery)
Lithium-ion batteries do not have a memory, you do not need to deep cycle them like Ni-Cad, doing so seriously shortens the lifespan of the battery. So unless you notice that the readout for the % of battery charge seems very off from reality don't recalibrate. Even if it is off a little, it will fix itself over time as you charge and use your phone. You don't even need to let it drain a lot. Just use it like normal and charge it when ever you get a chance.
T313C0mun1s7 said:
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Deep cycling is really bad for Lithium-ion batteries. I don't know why people keep perpetuating this myth that you should do this after burning a ROM. I blame Team Whiskey et all, etc . . . blah blah (You flashed our ROM now recalibrate your battery)
Lithium-ion batteries do not have a memory, you do not need to deep cycle them like Ni-Cad, doing so seriously shortens the lifespan of the battery. So unless you notice that the readout for the % of battery charge seems very off from reality don't recalibrate. Even if it is off a little, it will fix itself over time as you charge and use your phone. You don't even need to let it drain a lot. Just use it like normal and charge it when ever you get a chance.
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A lot of people r telling me it helped them
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xriderx66 said:
A lot of people r telling me it helped them
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Um, just Google search Lithium-ion. Read a little about the battery technology for yourself and you will see why it is very BAD advise to deep cycle your battery. After a little more than a year with Li-Ion the battery will only hold about 70% of the charge it held when it was new. Keep deep cycling and you will shorten that time to about 4-5 months. Then these same people come back here and ***** about how crappy their battery was because it only lasted a few months and they will offer as proof that it was always crappy because they had to recalibrate it a frequently. I alway think the same thing to myself when I here this from people, "dumb ass, you killed it."
Hell, the sales rep at T-mobile tried to tell me this crap when I purchased my phone. I asked her where she got her electrical engineering degree with focus on battery technology from. After the puzzled look settled from her face I told her that the advice she gave was about the worst thing you could do to the battery. She didn't believe me, but I told her to look it up on her fancy Google powered smart phone. After she did that she apologized.
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A lot of people r telling me it helped them
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A lot of people say things they don't understand, don't drain your battery as such, it's not good.
I wont do it... but
I've already pressed wipe battery stats does rat mean it already happened or something? Is there anything I can do to reverse this iif I did it wrone
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xriderx66 said:
I wont do it... but
I've already pressed wipe battery stats does rat mean it already happened or something? Is there anything I can do to reverse this iif I did it wrone
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Wipe battery stats, does not affect the battery, only deletes the stats saved by the OS. It won't make your battery run faster, or better. These are only STATS saved by the system to tell you where your power is going.
Don't go all psycho about the battery issue. get a cheap chinese knokoff battery from ebay with charger (as I did) and just go out with 2 batteries, even with heavy use, 2 batteries should last you all day. (well, with certain roms, Almost all day)
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Wipe battery stats, does not affect the battery, only deletes the stats saved by the OS. It won't make your battery run faster, or better. These are only STATS saved by the system to tell you where your power is going.
Don't go all psycho about the battery issue. get a cheap chinese knokoff battery from ebay with charger (as I did) and just go out with 2 batteries, even with heavy use, 2 batteries should last you all day. (well, with certain roms, Almost all day)
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I am running Axura 2.1 with no changes to the modem or theme and a stock battery. My phone is only about 2 months old but running stock I got about 11-13 hours and now I get 24+ hours when I let it. Normally I just charge it every night anyhow because it does not hurt anything, in fact it is better for the battery.
Nothing uses more power than the touch screen. Keep scrolling pages and your phone will be a hand warmer.
I've noticed deep cycling lithium ion batteries can destroy capacity to almost nothing quickly. Keep a charge on it whenever you can. The internal resistance is so low, you won't ever notice a "memory." Until the chemistry inside has rotted itself out.
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Nothing uses more power than the touch screen. Keep scrolling pages and your phone will be a hand warmer.
I've noticed deep cycling lithium ion batteries can destroy capacity to almost nothing quickly. Keep a charge on it whenever you can. The internal resistance is so low, you won't ever notice a "memory." Until the chemistry inside has rotted itself out.
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Excellent job of putting into layman's terms the endless cycle of the relationship of heat creating the substance on the electrode that increases resistance, which creates more heat in an endless cycle that is the death of batteries.
In lead acid batteries (like your car, motorcycle, or uninterruptible power supply) oxidation on the plates create this internal resistance and it is why car batteries are rated by number of months, like a 72 month battery. It happens to some extent to all rechargeable battery technologies, but in the case of Li-Ion batteries the internal chemistry actually tear them selfs up over time.
Long story short is the two really big enemies of Li-Ion batteries is deep cycling and heat. In fact if they are not vented well, and allow heat to build up, you get the battery fires you may have heard about with the Dell and Apple laptops that used the Sony batteries. There have also been a few phones that have been known for melting down.
Y'know, I would love to see a big sticky in one of these forums about this. Another voice of reason -- Don't deep cycle your battery, don't cycle it unnecessarily and don't worry about calibration. Your phone calibrates itself all the time and the less often your battery spends any time at low charge the longer it'll last.
Thanks guys good thing I didn't go too far before one of you told me not to do this.
Thanks again
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Hello dear members
I'd like to ask if an everyday charge will harm my battery.
It's my first week with my phone, and I can't keep my hands off it
As a result, battery runs out every day!! So I charge it...
Will something happen to the battery?
thanks in advance
This phone has a litium ion battery. They don't have a memory effect but in the first time they need some time to become the full potential. So it doesn't matter if you charge the phone every day.
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Thank you so much!!!!
It's a relief
To maintain better battery life it might be a good idea to make sure that u dont fully drain the battery
That shouldn't be a problem the most battery's should have electronic inside to prevent this but I can't guarantee it. You can read also the Wikipedia article about lithium ion batteries it's quite interesting.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
Thanks so much everyone Point taken
I'll never let it fall under 10%.
Well, Battery is average. If it weren't for the 2.3.3 bug, it would rock! In order for it to be normal, I keep ****ting Services.(under Services menu) like Voice talk, SocialHub(which drains a lot of battery) etc
Anyways, thanks to everyone
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
ithehappy said:
Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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Nope. Li-ion batteries these days prefer constant top-ups and full drain actually kills it faster. Totally opposite of what people have been taught over years of NiCD battery use that I've got friends who absolutely refuse to charge their iPhones unless it's at 10% or less. Their loss.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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No that's only good to do once in a while. Full discharges daily put stress on the cells and wear out li ion batteries quicker.
CarpathianUK said:
I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
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Yes it's common for all lithium ion batteries to charge as often as possible. Its true for all phones on the market today and quite a lot of discussion on this is all around the web.
Also a replacement stock battery for any cell phone today is around 20 dollars, so really you can't do much wrong since its so cheap to buy a new OEM battery replacement.
Thanks for the replies. I think this will catch a few people out so hope the thread doesn't get missed amongst all the other battery ones!
Looks like I'd better change my charging habits!
I've heard several different opinions on this. Condition or not to Condition the battery.
Do we need to condition this thing?
How are you doing it?
What kind of results are you getting?
Thanks in advance.
Matt
Li-ion
The battery is lithium Ion so you really shouldn't have to from my understanding.
People do even tho is not necessary, for some reason I don't but after a few day battery has gotten better
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I mentioned this earlier -- I know it's a li ion that shouldn't need conditioning but when I first got mine my battery life was absolutely horrible. I went through two full discharge/recharge cycles and it seems to be much better now.
Currently 11 hours on battery, 50 minutes screen on, played a couple of games, downloaded a couple of apps, 15 minutes of voice calls, and battery is at 80%.
The way it was when I first got it, I'd probably be at 40 or 50% right now, if not even lower.
I'm also running juice defender and have stopped using the gmail app because you can't set the sync interval on it. Instead I've been using the built in email app and have it set to sync every 30 minutes. Not sure if any of this is doing anything but my battery life is definitely better than when I first got the phone. At first it was so bad that I came very close to just returning the phone.
BonesHopkins said:
I mentioned this earlier -- I know it's a li ion that shouldn't need conditioning but when I first got mine my battery life was absolutely horrible. I went through two full discharge/recharge cycles and it seems to be much better now.
Currently 11 hours on battery, 50 minutes screen on, played a couple of games, downloaded a couple of apps, 15 minutes of voice calls, and battery is at 80%.
The way it was when I first got it, I'd probably be at 40 or 50% right now, if not even lower.
I'm also running juice defender and have stopped using the gmail app because you can't set the sync interval on it. Instead I've been using the built in email app and have it set to sync every 30 minutes. Not sure if any of this is doing anything but my battery life is definitely better than when I first got the phone. At first it was so bad that I came very close to just returning the phone.
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That's true for me as well now that you mentioned it. First day, I got about 4 1/2 hours with it before i was down to 10%. I was shocked! Each day it has gotten a little better. Over the last 36 hours it has last a full days before a charge. It doesn't really make much sense to me that they are li-ion which shouldn't need conditioned but it seems that we do need to do this. A friend suggested I condition it when I got it and before I started heavily using it, I guess he was right.
Li-ion batteries don't need conditioned. Any signs of conditioning you see may be some sort of conditioning/learning of the OS.
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mlin said:
Li-ion batteries don't need conditioned. Any signs of conditioning you see may be some sort of conditioning/learning of the OS.
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What he said.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/
BonesHopkins said:
Currently 11 hours on battery, 50 minutes screen on, played a couple of games, downloaded a couple of apps, 15 minutes of voice calls, and battery is at 80%.
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See this kinda stuff freaks me out. I had one decent charge so far, had the phone a week, have been doing full discharge/charge the whole time. Sitting at 38% right now on 16 hours, about half of that was asleep with power save on (its been dropping 20-30% overnight) and only 48 minutes screen time. I dunno how long it should take to improve but it seems like its not taking this long for anyone else.
erikk said:
What he said.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/
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What they said.
This is a very informative site. I've quoted it's recommendations concerning the circuit in the battery that needs calibration before......
here's the link to that page there.....
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
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See this kinda stuff freaks me out. I had one decent charge so far, had the phone a week, have been doing full discharge/charge the whole time. Sitting at 38% right now on 16 hours, about half of that was asleep with power save on (its been dropping 20-30% overnight) and only 48 minutes screen time. I dunno how long it should take to improve but it seems like its not taking this long for anyone else.
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How long do you usually sleep for???
Seriously though, 20 - 30% overnight sounds like a lot. I tested mine and it dropped about 8% in roughly 7 hours of zero use while I was sleeping. I think even that is a little excessive but I can live with it.
Have you tried running something like Juice Defender? It seems to have made a difference with mine. When I got my S3 last week it was about the same as yours. I did a couple of complete discharge/charge cycles, installed juice defender, and have been going into the task manager and app manager and turning off all the crap that doesn't turn off automatically. It has made a difference.
Oh, and I also did the APN trick to disable LTE. Not sure if that has made any difference but with everything combined the battery seems to be doing a lot better than it was at first.
Don't "they" say that you should not use task managers as they don't work well with the phones? I'm no expert here, so don't quote me, but my understanding is that the One S and Siii owe a lot of their excellent battery lives to their own internal task managing.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
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Don't "they" say that you should not use task managers as they don't work well with the phones? I'm no expert here, so don't quote me, but my understanding is that the One S and Siii owe a lot of their excellent battery lives to their own internal task managing.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
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The internal task managing is the reason you shouldn't use 3rd part task managers. That's the whole point. Android has done this since 2.0
Having said that, there's nothing inherently wrong with killing a task that is misbehaving... most things that say not to use task managers really mean to not (a) turn on auto task-killing, or (b) kill tasks across the board, albeit manually, under the false impression that freeing up RAM is a good thing.
When you guys say full discharge do you mean draining the battery till it shuts off or going down to 10%, I was under the impression that fully discharging would harm the battery.
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When you guys say full discharge do you mean draining the battery till it shuts off or going down to 10%, I was under the impression that fully discharging would harm the battery.
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I discharged it till zero. Then I turned the phone on and let it shut off again. I did this until the phone wouldn't even try to turn on any more.
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I discharged it till zero. Then I turned the phone on and let it shut off again. I did this until the phone wouldn't even try to turn on any more.
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Doing this enough times has the potential to damage your battery. Leaving it at 2% - 5% will not make a difference in the "calibration" compared to completely killing the battery.
Killing the battery may work for you, but I want others to be aware of the potential of damaging the battery.
Just my 2cents for the day.
Here. Is a link to battery charging for Li-ion. I have another site that is great in explaining these things. I have a couple of R/C trucks and this info is great to know and have. The same applies. To our phones charge rates. I would hope that when a dev makes up or mods a kernel that they have a basic knowledge of charge rates and the rest of the equations. Foe our batteries this is literally. Life and death. It could also cause a phone to burst into flames. Especially. If we use after market batteries that have poor protection circuitry in them.
I will find the other link later and post it up here to give a possible better understanding of these things. But, try not to rely on me as I tend to forget things a lot. Car accidents will do that to you when you crush your skull. Any way, GIYF.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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You basically only need to do the "calibration" once. And the phone has limits set that will neither undercharge nor overcharge them.
edit I think heat is your batteries worst enemy.
BonesHopkins said:
I discharged it till zero. Then I turned the phone on and let it shut off again. I did this until the phone wouldn't even try to turn on any more.
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This is the WORST thing you can do to a Li-Ion battery. I mean literally you can lose 10% of its life from doing this or even cause the battery to stop charging at all.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Li-ion should never be discharged too low, and there are several safeguards to prevent this from happening. The equipment cuts off when the battery discharges to about 3.0V/cell, stopping the current flow. If the discharge continues to about 2.70V/cell or lower, the battery’s protection circuit puts the battery into a sleep mode. This renders the pack unserviceable and a recharge with most chargers is not possible. To prevent a battery from falling asleep, apply a partial charge before a long storage period.
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Seriously everyone should spend a couple hours on that site at some point. Half the information will probably be way over your head (or at least it was mine) but there's enough good information that even half of it is definitely worth learning.
Here is the other site that I was talking about. Though it is for R/C battery packs it should still grant a measure of understanding to the workings of these batteries.
http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-lipo-batteries.html
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BonesHopkins said:
I discharged it till zero. Then I turned the phone on and let it shut off again. I did this until the phone wouldn't even try to turn on any more.
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Take into account though. These batteries have circuitry. Built into them to prevent you from truly discharging. It all the way. That doesn't mean that it can not discharge all the way. Things like humidity can play its roll in taking a Li-ion or Lipo battery past the kill zone point. If you know that you will not be using the battery for a good period of time or it is strictly an in case of an emergency battery. Place it into a plastic bag and suck out all of the air that you can and seal it. A zip lock bag works best. Place it in the refrigerator or freezer. There is very little moisture. In there. And what ever moisture makes its way in when you open the fridge. Or freezer will not have time to get into the zip lock bag. The lack of moisture slows the discharge process down especially in the summer. Also the chilling of the battery's chemical. Compounds slows the molecular interactions down. Its a helpful two fold process.
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OK so to calibrate my new battery charge to full unplug then use till it dies then recharge to full and that's it? Is one cycle enough?
Thanks
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there is no calibrating requirement for lithium ion batteries...
Not sure if it is good to let it die. I was told on the gnex that running it till it dies was not good for thag type of battery? Maybe someone with more knowledge can clarify that.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Not sure if it is good to let it die. I was told on the gnex that running it till it dies was not good for thag type of battery? Maybe someone with more knowledge can clarify that.
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No adverse effect.
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Actually you are not supposed to let them drain completely..
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/289
I know this is slightly a different question. My issue is after you flash a new rom it seems the % is not entirely accurate. It will act fine for a while and then when u get to like less then 10% it drops dramatically like it wasnt reading it correctly or just like today I turned the phone off and did a reboot at 96% and when it powered on it was at 92% which is quite a bit of time on the note 2.
How do you get your battery reading accurate again after you have flashed a new rom? This has happened with my Bionic in the past as well. Thanks.
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nunyazz said:
Actually you are not supposed to let them drain completely..
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/289
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Correct, it is bad to deep discharge Lithium Ion batteries.
INCREMENTAL said:
I know this is slightly a different question. My issue is after you flash a new rom it seems the % is not entirely accurate. It will act fine for a while and then when u get to like less then 10% it drops dramatically like it wasnt reading it correctly or just like today I turned the phone off and did a reboot at 96% and when it powered on it was at 92% which is quite a bit of time on the note 2.
How do you get your battery reading accurate again after you have flashed a new rom? This has happened with my Bionic in the past as well. Thanks.
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100-90% can vary depending on when you take it off of the charger. Basically, once the battery hits 100% on the charger, it will start slowly discharging itself to avoid damage. Once it get below a certain threshold, it will charge back up to capacity again.
Regarding rebooting, that process is fairly system intensive and it is natural to lose some battery life. In addition, prior to the reboot the OS is calculating a rough estimate of the percentage left partially based on previous use. So for example, if your phone was in deep sleep for hours, then you reboot where the CPU ramps up significantly, the percentage will alter to more accurately reflect the charge left in the battery.
In short, there is never a need to "calibrate" a battery, the OS will sort it out itself even after flashing different ROMs and it can take a couple days for kernels to settle.
Hello
So my GS2's battery was seriously getting crappy, and I ordered a new original battery (more expensive, but I really wanted it to work properly). Before the replacement, it was all over the place, and I think I may very well have a phone that's seriously confused about its battery options.
Thing is, after the replacement the phone isn't charging the new battery properly (AFAICT). If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say it charges it to 33% and then it states 100% full.
So, I get just a handful of hours of regular on-time with this new battery. Sometimes the phone hard-dies when saying about 50% remaining, other times it actually says something like 2% remaining, then dies, but still awfully far from logical, considering the fresh battery replacement.
I've searched for how to calibrate this thing, and most results simply recommend the "fully deplete, then fully charge, extract, reinsert, etc." method.
However, this does nothing to help me.
I read somewhere that for some custom ROMs (Dorimanx kernel?) you could do a more "explicit" recalibration, but I'm not sure if that'd work — as I'm on ParanoidAndroid ATM, and here I don't have such option.
So... Does anyone here know of any more "legitimate" way of recalibrating? I really don't want to buy a new phone, as these days I don't see any phone I really want to buy...
TIA,
Daniel
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Thanks, Sparks, but I've already done this many times. I've had the battery for a couple of months now, but I really need to figure out how to calibrate the phone so that it starts behaving "normally" with my new battery...
Let it die, juice it up while it's off, take the batt for 90 sec when it hits 100% and put it back in?
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
There is no need to calibrate the battery
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MistahBungle said:
No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
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beicuxhaven said:
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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Something definitely needs calibration, and yes, of course it's not the battery itself when buying a fresh original battery does not fix one's battery problems, it must be some battery controller somewhere. I just started a new job, and my CEO has a Galaxy S3 which started having battery troubles. Like me, he replaced the battery, and like me, nothing changed.
In the meantime, my S2 died completely, so problem "solved" I kinda feel retarded for planning on buying a Note 3... Probably ought to run from Samsung devices altogether...