Data lost after a nandroid backup restoration - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there. Yesterday, before flashing leaked 4.2.1 ROM, I did a nandroid backup to my external microSD card using Philz Touch Recovery v. 4.63. The process of backing up was successful.
The problem came when I restored the backup. (Before restoration, I had to reinstall the PhilZ Touch recovery and, from it, I did format cache, format system and format data). I recovered my XXEMA2 ROM with all the apps and configurations I had before, BUT there is no trace of the pictures I had in the internal memory or the files I downloaded.
I tried to repeat the process, but I got the same result.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.

portamento said:
Hi there. Yesterday, before flashing leaked 4.2.1 ROM, I did a nandroid backup to my external microSD card using Philz Touch Recovery v. 4.63. The process of backing up was successful.
The problem came when I restored the backup. (Before restoration, I had to reinstall the PhilZ Touch recovery and, from it, I did format cache, format system and format data). I recovered my XXEMA2 ROM with all the apps and configurations I had before, BUT there is no trace of the pictures I had in the internal memory or the files I downloaded.
I tried to repeat the process, but I got the same result.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
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Nandroid only backs up your ROM, recovery, apps, app data, etc. and not the data stored in your internal storage.
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Oomahey said:
Nandroid only backs up your ROM, recovery, apps, app data, etc. and not the data stored in your internal storage.
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Ooopppps, I thought it makes a complete image of the phone! (for example, on many websites it's compared with Norton Ghost for PC). Good to know for the next time...
Thank you for the information, Oomahey!

portamento said:
Ooopppps, I thought it makes a complete image of the phone! (for example, on many websites it's compared with Norton Ghost for PC). Good to know for the next time...
Thank you for the information, Oomahey!
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hit "thanks" below his post

portamento said:
Hi there. Yesterday, before flashing leaked 4.2.1 ROM, I did a nandroid backup to my external microSD card using Philz Touch Recovery v. 4.63. The process of backing up was successful.
The problem came when I restored the backup. (Before restoration, I had to reinstall the PhilZ Touch recovery and, from it, I did format cache, format system and format data). I recovered my XXEMA2 ROM with all the apps and configurations I had before, BUT there is no trace of the pictures I had in the internal memory or the files I downloaded.
I tried to repeat the process, but I got the same result.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
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After going back from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 you'll have your whole Internal Memory in a folder "0". Find it on your Internal Memory. All your data and files should be there. Just transfer them from folder 0 to root of Internal Memory and all will be like before flashing 4.2.1

Glebun said:
hit "thanks" below his post
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I seem to be blind! I was looking for the "thanks" button, but I didn't found it (I thought that maybe it didn't appear since I was surfing from my mobile). That's why I said "thanks" texting.
EDIT: I was not blind. In the default version of the forum (the classic one) that appears on my Opera Mobile there is not "thanks" button. You need to change manually the versiĆ³n to 2010 one or higher.

Ninolina said:
After going back from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 you'll have your whole Internal Memory in a folder "0". Find it on your Internal Memory. All your data and files should be there. Just transfer them from folder 0 to root of Internal Memory and all will be like before flashing 4.2.1
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I do have the "0" folder with the old (sub)folders, but all of them are empty :crying:
Maybe it was not a good idea to do format cache/system/data before restoring the nandroid backup... As I thought all data were preserved in the backup, I prefered to delete any trace of 4.2.1 ROM .

portamento said:
I do have the "0" folder with the old (sub)folders, but all of them are empty :crying:
Maybe it was not a good idea to do format cache/system/data before restoring the nandroid backup... As I thought all data were preserved in the backup, I prefered to delete any trace of 4.2.1 ROM .
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Well, that might be the problem. I had also restoring 4.1.2 backup after trying 4.2.1 FW but I didn't do wiping or formating - I just restored backup and there was that 0 folder and all files from Internal were there.

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[Q] Titanium backup folder missing after root and install ROM

Helped a friend to root and install custom rom.
Basically the step i used
1) Root it with odin and cf-root
2) Root working, so i get titanium backup and run the backup
3) Factory reset and install Omega rom v37
4) failed to install, seem like i get the older version of cf-root. So i re install the cf-root
5) Install omega rom v37 and it worked
6) Install titanium backup. However, when i want to restore, seem all file missing. I scanned through whole device, cant find it too. The sdcard/titaniumbackup is an empty folder
Question
1) Could the backup file in sdcard0/titaniumbackup?
2) Why the backup will disappear by itself?
3) Factory reset/wipe cache/wipe ...cache will delete the backup, right?
4) Watapps backup disappear too?
5) Instagram pictures folder disappear too?
5) Any idea to get the backup back? Feel really sorry as lost my friend's data, please help me if there is a way to get the data back.
Thank you.
how did you do the factory reset? from the settings menu?
Yes, from the cwm menu.
And i did it just like what i did for the last 50 times
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check sdcard0/ and extSdCard/
you didn't wipe the internal sd, did you?
No /sdcard0, only /sdcard
Dint wipe that one.
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So any cluel?
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Yes, you factory reset, which wiped your internal sd, and you really should set titanium to save to external sd if you have one to avoid this happening again, and backup to pc before you start messing around
I never understand making backup on internal sd - think it would be good to advise user of TB after installing to change the folder at first. (If ext SD is present)
Do anybody backup PC on c:\ ??? Must be more complicated on a phone...
slaphead20 said:
Yes, you factory reset, which wiped your internal sd, and you really should set titanium to save to external sd if you have one to avoid this happening again, and backup to pc before you start messing around
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So no chances to get the lost data back?

Format S3 internal SD

i've planned to format my internal since it left insufficient storage left.. i dont know what's wrong with my internal memory.. i already transfered all the files like photo, music and movie to my computer, and the storage still low.. so i decide to format it, but i had read some thread in google that said if we format our system, we will lost our "certificate file" something called EFS.. is this true?
No, sdcard is in /data/media folder.
EFS and other files are storaged somewhere else won't be affected if you format sdcard in right way.
if you use recovery like TWRP when you factory reset, you will see it reports something like "Wipe data without wipe /data/media "
Suggest you do so in recovery instead of system
You can format these partition without problem
Cache, dalvik cache, internal /external sdcard, data and system, don't do anything you don't know about.
If you format system, then you have to install new one otherwise phone won't even boot up.
Just be careful.
And if you do something wrong, and you can still go into recovery and download mode, then your phone is still alive.
Remember backup EFS and copy to PC!!!
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Formatting sd won't mess up your efs, in fact I format data/system/sd card and preload every flash, but that is mainly because I'm swapping between Samsung Roms and Aosp, with the associated sd/0 problems
qtwrk said:
No, sdcard is in /data/media folder.
EFS and other files are storaged somewhere else won't be affected if you format sdcard in right way.
if you use recovery like TWRP when you factory reset, you will see it reports something like "Wipe data without wipe /data/media "
Suggest you do so in recovery instead of system
You can format these partition without problem
Cache, dalvik cache, internal /external sdcard, data and system, don't do anything you don't know about.
If you format system, then you have to install new one otherwise phone won't even boot up.
Just be careful.
And if you do something wrong, and you can still go into recovery and download mode, then your phone is still alive.
Remember backup EFS and copy to PC!!!
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thank u for the information, which setting provide a format for system
slaphead20 said:
Formatting sd won't mess up your efs, in fact I format data/system/sd card and preload every flash, but that is mainly because I'm swapping between Samsung Roms and Aosp, with the associated sd/0 problems
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thank u for the information, so it's safe to for mat data/system/sd card?
NoobSEowner said:
thank u for the information, which setting provide a format for system
thank u for the information, so it's safe to for mat data/system/sd card?
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As long as anything you may need is on ext. SD, ie the Rom you want to flash after wiping!
And make sure your titanium backups and nandroid are on ext sd also, and backed up on pc, in other words, all usual precautions.
Grab HC-kTool from Play, and make a back up of your efs and copy that to multiple places then you are well and truly ready to go!
slaphead20 said:
As long as anything you may need is on ext. SD, ie the Rom you want to flash after wiping!
And make sure your titanium backups and nandroid are on ext sd also, and backed up on pc, in other words, all usual precautions.
Grab HC-kTool from Play, and make a back up of your efs and copy that to multiple places then you are well and truly ready to go!
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but, after formatting internal, does CWM recovery will also gone? then how can i flash a new ROM?
NoobSEowner said:
but, after formatting internal, does CWM recovery will also gone? then how can i flash a new ROM?
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No, your recovery will still be there
slaphead20 said:
No, your recovery will still be there
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and the internal will have more space? now im running out of MB in my internal =.=

[Q] Does Nandroid backup the internal storage??

Hi guys,
I own a S3 and for one year I just dealed with the stock ROM, just root access. Saturday I decided to enter the modding world but I knew it would bring a lot of troubles...
I did a nandroid backup of 4.1.2 stock FW just before the flashing, but no way it restores, after an hour of processing it shows - Error restoring data! - it boots but it's a total mess. I even restored the original stock FW with triangle away, wipe all and double ODIN flash and then reflashing the clockworkmod recovery to restore the backup again but nope, won't work.
Luckily I did a full backup with Titanium backup prior, the real trouble is with ES file explorer: I did copy/paste of the entire internal storage to the external microsd but for some reasons it stopped at "D", "Downloads" folder... I lost everything else and I realized this only AFTER wiping and flashing, of course...
I'm trying to recover the files with Hexamob, hope this will work....
I have this two questions:
Does Nandroid work only with backup < 2.5 Gb? Mine is 4.5 Gb...
Does Nandroid backup the internal storage, too??
Thank you all guys
Joker87 said:
I have this two questions:
Does Nandroid work only with backup < 2.5 Gb? Mine is 4.5 Gb...
Does Nandroid backup the internal storage, too??
Thank you all guys
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If I am not wrong, Nandroid does a backup of your phone (system, data etc) so that when you restore it, you got anything like it was. It does not backup the SD card though. In addition backups of over 2.5gb should work.
/data is the internal memory? Or is it /sdcard?
Joker87 said:
/data is the internal memory? Or is it /sdcard?
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its all the internal memory.
/system
/data
/cache
...are all on the emmc memory and are backed up in a nandroid backup.
/sdcard is actually a mount of /data/media, however this is ignored by nandroid backups for obvious reasons
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rootSU said:
its all the internal memory.
/system
/data
/cache
...are all on the emmc memory and are backed up in a nandroid backup.
/sdcard is actually a mount of /data/media, however this is ignored by nandroid backups for obvious reasons
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So /sdcard is the external microsd? And /data is the internal memory (I mean what you see when connecting phone to PC, Internal memory and external sd)?
If nandroid backed up internal memory would be great, may be there's some way to recover datas from backup files (unyaffs won't work, Titanium Backup just shows apps and their datas).
I'll do some further research.
no. sdcard is the internal SD, which is just a link to /data/media. to backup it, use copy and paste. no, it's not possible to recover internal SD data from a nandroid backup
Be aware that Nandroid does not backup your EFS .
jje
it can. depends on the recovery
Yep i know problem is that some think any recovery backs up EFS .
Wrong recovery no EFS backup .
We desperately need some stickied faqs and guides on this forum .
jje
Joker87 said:
So /sdcard is the external microsd? And /data is the internal memory (I mean what you see when connecting phone to PC, Internal memory and external sd)?
If nandroid backed up internal memory would be great, may be there's some way to recover datas from backup files (unyaffs won't work, Titanium Backup just shows apps and their datas).
I'll do some further research.
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/sdcard is the "internal sd"
/extSdCard is the "external sd"
/data is something different that just so happens to be the home of /sdcard
As I feared, no internal storage backup in Nandroid. But what makes me more angry is that s****y ES file explorer so crappy it can't even perform a simple task like copy-paste. If that worked I wouldn't have lost anything. :crying:
Not to mention the useless nandroid... doesn't work either.
However I did manually backed up the EFS folder, but I don't really think it matters in this case.
If your /sdcard was 90% full, where would the nandroid go? External obviously? But recovery devs cannot assume that everyone has an external sd card with enough free space to store a 15 GB backup.
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Joker87 said:
As I feared, no internal storage backup in Nandroid. But what makes me more angry is that s****y ES file explorer so crappy it can't even perform a simple task like copy-paste. If that worked I wouldn't have lost anything. :crying:
Not to mention the useless nandroid... doesn't work either.
However I did manually backed up the EFS folder, but I don't really think it matters in this case.
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FX file explorer
better .
jje
Just clarifying
Hey guys, this is my first ever post on xda!
Just to clarify, a nandroid backup will only backup device root files, and not the (internal) sdcard, nor the extsdcard files, from my understanding of this thread. So to do a complete backup of ALL phone data, I should perform the nandroid backup to extsdcard, and then simply copy (internal)sdcard and extsdcard to my computer for safe keeping?
Thank you!
toomfly7 said:
Hey guys, this is my first ever post on xda!
Just to clarify, a nandroid backup will only backup device root files, and not the (internal) sdcard, nor the extsdcard files, from my understanding of this thread. So to do a complete backup of ALL phone data, I should perform the nandroid backup to extsdcard, and then simply copy (internal)sdcard and extsdcard to my computer for safe keeping?
Thank you!
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Yep! I discovered it losing data xD
Joker87 said:
Hi guys,
I own a S3 and for one year I just dealed with the stock ROM, just root access. Saturday I decided to enter the modding world but I knew it would bring a lot of troubles...
I did a nandroid backup of 4.1.2 stock FW just before the flashing, but no way it restores, after an hour of processing it shows - Error restoring data! - it boots but it's a total mess. I even restored the original stock FW with triangle away, wipe all and double ODIN flash and then reflashing the clockworkmod recovery to restore the backup again but nope, won't work.
Luckily I did a full backup with Titanium backup prior, the real trouble is with ES file explorer: I did copy/paste of the entire internal storage to the external microsd but for some reasons it stopped at "D", "Downloads" folder... I lost everything else and I realized this only AFTER wiping and flashing, of course...
I'm trying to recover the files with Hexamob, hope this will work....
I have this two questions:
Does Nandroid work only with backup < 2.5 Gb? Mine is 4.5 Gb...
Does Nandroid backup the internal storage, too??
Thank you all guys
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Ya possible......
TUTORIAL for internal storage backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...age-backup-t3389172/post67103552#post67103552

Downgrading from 4.2.2 to 4.12

I know there are a few other threads out there regarding this but I'm still not completely sure of the steps. (Doing this for my brother's phone, not mine thats why)
Could someone outline a detailed method of downgrading to 4.1.2 again, while retaining all user files? I know 4.2.2 introduced that /0/ folder bull**** together with the multi user support.
I know the usual wipe via CWM, and flash 4.1.2 but how would this be different since its 4.2.2 before? File structures are different as said before. Don't wanna mess up since it's not my phone haha. Trying to get him to use 4.1.2 with perseus kernel since it's way better than stock.
Read the "Flashed 4.2?" thread in General
You can't keep user data, unless you do a full wipe during flash you will end up with a bootloop. Copy files from the internal sd to your pc, wipe and flash, then copy them back.
Backup apps only via titanium, don't restore system settings or data.
Just move everything from /data/media/0 to data/media.
Best bet actually would be to copy everything from /data/media/0 to pc first, full wipe and format of internal sd then flash rom
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boomboomer said:
You can't keep user data, unless you do a full wipe during flash you will end up with a bootloop. Copy files from the internal sd to your pc, wipe and flash, then copy them back.
Backup apps only via titanium, don't restore system settings or data.
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You could also backup SMS, MMS, call log, clock alarm using Titanium\Mybackup Pro.
User data files, and application data files (what's up, waze, etc) will have to be done manually as mentioned, using external SD.
I also recommend full format of internal SD card before installing new ROM. It will make the "0" folder go away or being abled to be deleted.

Does TWRP back up internal data? How to restore?

Hi guys,
I wanted to update my Custom Android and did a TWRP backup before.
It required to do a factory reset and format data which I did.
After finishing everything up and installing the new ROM, I saw that all pictures stored in /storage/emulated/0/Pictures are gone.
There were all Screenshots and saved Snapchat files. Fortunately, the Camera pictures were saved on the SD-Card which I didn't formatted.
Since I am not able to undo "format data" (or can I somehow??), how am I getting to the path above? I tried Nandroid Manager and were able to load the backup but it seems that this path was not included in the backup...
I thought everything internal will be saved in a TWRP backup?
Does anyone know how to get on those files or are they completely gone?
I'm on a LG G3, bumped stock Rom (Lollipop 5.0), and TWRP 2.8.5.0.
Thanks!!
Are you able to find the path /storage in your backup?
popthosegaskets said:
Are you able to find the path /storage in your backup?
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No I was unable to find it but it is very unclear and confusing to find paths anyway...
jwsp1 said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to update my Custom Android and did a TWRP backup before.
It required to do a factory reset and format data which I did.
After finishing everything up and installing the new ROM, I saw that all pictures stored in /storage/emulated/0/Pictures are gone.
There were all Screenshots and saved Snapchat files. Fortunately, the Camera pictures were saved on the SD-Card which I didn't formatted.
Since I am not able to undo "format data" (or can I somehow??), how am I getting to the path above? I tried Nandroid Manager and were able to load the backup but it seems that this path was not included in the backup...
I thought everything internal will be saved in a TWRP backup?
Does anyone know how to get on those files or are they completely gone?
I'm on a LG G3, bumped stock Rom (Lollipop 5.0), and TWRP 2.8.5.0.
Thanks!!
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TWRP only backups system+data+cache. So if you have formated your internal storage even after backing up with TWRP that means you have deleted your content's forever.
Luckily you can take them back.
If you are rooted, then there's a app named DiskDigger. This app can recover deleted files from selected storage media. Below is the play store link for the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger&hl=en
Hope it helped you
hitman-xda said:
TWRP only backups system+data+cache. So if you have formated your internal storage even after backing up with TWRP that means you have deleted your content's forever.
Luckily you can take them back.
If you are rooted, then there's a app named DiskDigger. This app can recover deleted files from selected storage media. Below is the play store link for the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger&hl=en
Hope it helped you
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Unfortunately, it didn't work... I just found the pictures I took by myself in the Camera folder which were not affected and are there anyway but the deleted files (especially screenshots and snapchat photos) can't be found...
Any other option I could try?
Thanks so much for your help!!
jwsp1 said:
Unfortunately, it didn't work... I just found the pictures I took by myself in the Camera folder which were not affected and are there anyway but the deleted files (especially screenshots and snapchat photos) can't be found...
Any other option I could try?
Thanks so much for your help!!
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Maybe you should try other apps similar to DiskDigger. It might help you.
I know a computer software for recovery but it'll not on internal storage as internal storage is ext2 format.
No solution found; thread closed.
hitman-xda said:
Maybe you should try other apps similar to DiskDigger. It might help you.
I know a computer software for recovery but it'll not on internal storage as internal storage is ext2 format.
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Thanks for your answer.
I tried a lot of software but none of it worked. I believe that the data was already overwritten - so permanently erased.
I decided to give up; but I learned that you should have recent backups of your phone and that twrp is not a full backup of data.
Thanks for your help!!

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