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Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
MakaveliReturns said:
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
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Then leave, no offense.
If you don't want to mod it, then take what your provider gave you and be happy. If not, then download some commercial applications.
But if you want to improve your phone, and make it realize it's full potential, then you are gonna have to get in to some mods.
Sorry mate, I'm just fed up with all the "how do I make my phone neato keano" questions from people.
It takes some willingness to experiment, some computer know how, and 99 times out of 100 all will be well. (BTW, I'm the one out of the hundred, I totally bricked one).
Retail ROMS, no such thing, you can't buy em.
Heh, jeez man, you seem to make alot of assumptions based on no information.
I am very computer literate, and I am passing down my phone to somebody else who has no clue how to do this stuff and probably does not care for it either.
I had a cooked ROM on it, but went back to a retail SPL and installed the retail AT&T (Beta?) WM6 Rom on my 8525.
Seriously though, you shouldn't assume such things about people especially over the internet.
The key benefit to HardSPL is that it protects accidental overwrite of SPL & IPL. Basically, it protects against bricking the phone. If it were me, I would always keep HardSPL, even if I were running a retail ROM. It really only affords protection during flashing process, so if you are not going to flash anything, you really don't need it - kinda like wearing a condom whike you aren't having sex, I guess. However, unlike the condom example, when you do decide to flash again, you would have to put HardSPL on there, which is itself a flashing process, so you would be vulnerable.
Always practice safe flashing!
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
lol i remember when i got my x01ht... i wanted to keep it softbank and just have this sexy phone from japan.... I read japanese so that wouldnt have been a problem and I am moving back to japan next year, so I thought it was perfect.
I had to unlock it using a code (which worked after flashing to hardspl 1.10 and then back to hardspl 2.10), but softbank still had that stupid welcome.exe issue. So i flashed to HTC's WM6 wwe rom. No more 'neato keano' for me.
Then i discovered letsjapan and ime3_1qvga (whatever its called)... I can have my japanese functionality with an english rom!! w00t.
Then i discovered schaps... I am so far from neato keano... but still barely breaking the surface.
I know this story is pointless, but if anyone is reading this with the 'neato keano' idea... get real, try some stuff and you will never go back (unless for warranty purposes ).
MakaveliReturns said:
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
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Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
todd_jg said:
Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
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Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
MakaveliReturns said:
Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
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Well, the code almost certainly would not superCID your phone. Only remove the SIM lock. The RUU is checking the CID restriction on the phone and disallowing the flash. The only flash that would work without unpacking is the one intended for and released by your carrier - AT&T rom to AT&T rom, for example. As I mentioned, the reason unpacking works is because Oli's RUU bypasses the CID check. Does seem odd that the same ROM won't flash though...
Hi Titan bastards
I recently hacked up a new Hard-SPL based on a very sexy MFG, except I don't know where ImCoKeMaN went with it so I'll stave off releasing something till he gives an all clear
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Hi Titan bastards
I recently hacked up a new Hard-SPL based on a very sexy MFG, except I don't know where ImCoKeMaN went with it so I'll stave off releasing something till he gives an all clear
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Titan bastards? Kind of rough don't you think?
I know he posted something over at PPCGeeks. He put it in the hardspl thread. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9093
I think he means it affectionately.
Maybe we are Titan Bastards, it seems Sprint and other companies have abandoned this phone, we onlyl have a few here like Olipro, DCD and others who continue to develop this rom and make it awesome, so my thanks to them.
yeah i talked with Olipro letting him know that i packaged it and put it up in that link. Not sure yet if he will redo it and update here or what, but he generally uses those terms for his Hard-SPL users. Like his topic in irc for another device SPL "...Hard-SPL-2.60 is out now ****wits! ..."
Either way his patched SPL is working now and it's currently available, but it may be revised.
He's British right? Reminds me of a movie I just watched "This is England" where he calls one of the kids a "cheeky bastid!". BTW, just tried 2.40 right now, works wonderful.
olipro patched that bootloader fast as hell. nothing we do here would be possible without his help. thank you olipro
I am anything u want me to be OLIPRO !!! for i am a unworthy titan owner who has been blessed by all that U and others do for my less than perfect phone.
AND anyone who takes offense to being a titan bastard, can go get a IPHONE
yeah thanks for the hard work mate.
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I think he means it affectionately.
Maybe we are Titan Bastards, it seems Sprint and other companies have abandoned this phone, we onlyl have a few here like Olipro, DCD and others who continue to develop this rom and make it awesome, so my thanks to them.
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how has sprint abandoned this phone? we wouldnt even have this new rom and bootloader if the rom sprint has been working on hadnt been leaked (and after using it for 2 days i can see why it hasnt been officially released yet)
im a noob i know i know i shouldnt be doing this unless i have a good understanding which i thought i did but now i am thinking twice. I tried to intall the new unlocker 2.40, i did everything it asked of me and now its stuck in the three color screen and i have no clue how to get out of it nothing is working, Activesync wont connect. someone please help!!!!
I am in the same boat. I got to the boot loader screen no problem, I upgraded to titan_radio_3.27.00.exe no problem. I then ran ROMUpdateUtility.exe from dcd_2.0.0_beta_sprint.exe.
No errors or problems but when i rebooted it hangs onit just hangs at the "HTC smart mobility" screen.
If I tried to replace the dcd_2.0.0_beta_sprint.nbh with another .nbh could that save me?
I am able to get to the boot loader screen and have USB, but on warm or cold boot it just hangs at the "HTC smart mobility" screen.
Seems if i have boot loader access, i am not hosed.
I did run the latest unlocker Hard-SPL-MFG(2).exe
the new radio/spl is not compatible with the older roms. Something in the XIP has changed and if not present your device will hang.
are you aware of a solution?
you guys are having problems cause you did not run titanrelocker before flashing the ne stuff, or if you ran it you did it wrong.
it is imperative that you run the bat file inside of titanrelocker folder as opposed to running ruu.exe file.
for you to do that now that you are stuck ya gotta boot to bootloader mode , flash a older rom then activesynce and relock the phone the right way.
I just want to point out the fact that this is about the 4th question of the exact same nature i have answered today. I had none of these problems because i READ before i installed. none of what ive said here is news as it WAS ALL MENTIONED IN THE FIRST POST OF KMARTBURRITO'S THREAD
the moral of the story: dont friggin mess with anything if you cant be assed to read the first post of the thread of the rom you're flashing.
have a nice day
Thanks, i appreciate your comments and i thought i was understanding this.
Can you recommend a older ROM and DL location?
Also just to be sure, to re flash i would just switch the current .nbh for the older one. Correct?
As a linux admin i understand noobs on the forum. I am trying to learn I am sorry for the inconvenience. I only posted cause i am desperate and failed trying to fix on my own.
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you guys are having problems cause you did not run titanrelocker before flashing the ne stuff, or if you ran it you did it wrong.
it is imperative that you run the bat file inside of titanrelocker folder as opposed to running ruu.exe file.
for you to do that now that you are stuck ya gotta boot to bootloader mode , flash a older rom then activesynce and relock the phone the right way.
I just want to point out the fact that this is about the 4th question of the exact same nature i have answered today. I had none of these problems because i READ before i installed. none of what ive said here is news as it WAS ALL MENTIONED IN THE FIRST POST OF KMARTBURRITO'S THREAD
the moral of the story: dont friggin mess with anything if you cant be assed to read the first post of the thread of the rom you're flashing.
have a nice day
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I didn't use a relocker and I'm up and running fine. So I don't think your comments work for everyone.
elgreek84 said:
I think he means it affectionately.
Maybe we are Titan Bastards, it seems Sprint and other companies have abandoned this phone, we onlyl have a few here like Olipro, DCD and others who continue to develop this rom and make it awesome, so my thanks to them.
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Quite possible as I don't always understand British humor.
blazingwolf said:
I didn't use a relocker and I'm up and running fine. So I don't think your comments work for everyone.
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maybe not now. they may have changed the new hard spl to accomodate that issue. it was a required step yesterday though
watson540 said:
maybe not now. they may have changed the new hard spl to accomodate that issue. it was a required step yesterday though
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I flashed my phone awhile ago. So it was before any new hard spl.
Anybody that can upload it here or link it to here, from somewhere other than ppcgeeks? There site is down, and I'm sitting here ready to re-up the SPL to try the new dcd rom, since his 1.6.10 keeps not waking up for phone calls and SMS.
The Wiki states that AT&T OEM Rom 1.95.502.5 came with SPL version 95. All the other AT&T Roms say they came with SPL version 90. If I revert back to version 90 do I brick it or is 95 just a typo in the Wiki. I have not seen ay reference to SPL 95 other than in the Wiki. As you can't see the original SPL version on the phone before you flash hard SPL I'm nervous I'm going to brick my phone.
Thanks!
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The Wiki states that AT&T OEM Rom 1.95.502.5 came with SPL version 95. All the other AT&T Roms say they came with SPL version 90. If I revert back to version 90 do I brick it or is 95 just a typo in the Wiki. I have not seen ay reference to SPL 95 other than in the Wiki. As you can't see the original SPL version on the phone before you flash hard SPL I'm nervous I'm going to brick my phone.
Thanks!
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Im quite certain thats an incorrect entry, afaik the only other version of SPL around is the CDMA versions (which wont be on your device).
Whoever entered that info is getting confused with the ROM version numbers notice that that ROM has an OEM version of 1.95...the SPL is most likely 1.90. either way ALOT of members have flashed HArdSPL to thier fuze device without issue.
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Im quite certain thats an incorrect entry, afaik the only other version of SPL around is the CDMA versions (which wont be on your device).
Whoever entered that info is getting confused with the ROM version numbers notice that that ROM has an OEM version of 1.95...the SPL is most likely 1.90. either way ALOT of members have flashed HArdSPL to thier fuze device without issue.
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I do remember seeing a thread asking if someone would make a version of HARDspl with 1.95. But like you said, 1.90 works just fine. I have flashed my fuze over 30 times in 2 weeks with 1.90.
I have the extracted spl but I am not sure if there is a way to open it to read spl version number. Now I am curious lol and will have to do some research.
Note this post
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This
I am in UK not in US but if uu download the att original rom is do come with the 1.95 spl but is not for gsm devices i think
donottouch said:
I am in UK not in US but if uu download the att original rom is do come with the 1.95 spl but is not for gsm devices i think
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No the 1.95 refers to the OEM version.....such as the display drivers and USB drivers etc.... you wont find the SPL version number in the ROM file name or in the startup screen.
If needs be I can see if cmonex can check the version....and that ROM is definatly for GSM devices, it is the Fuze release ROM.
The CDMA stuff you will find on the same page with SPL versions 0.36 and (i think) 0.34....?
I need to return for warranty
I'm not a NOOB, I flashed my Tilt over 100 times. WAYYYYYY over 100 times. I flashed my Fuze to Hard SPL 1.90 and have tried 5 roms so far. I have a bad home key and need to return my Fuze. If my Fuze did indeed come with OEM SPL version 1.95 and I downgrade it to OEM 1.90 to return it I want to ensure that 1. I don't brick it and 2. I dont void my warranty on a 5 day old Fuze with a bad home key. I just don't want to get hosed over a Home Key. Thanks everyone!
Fuze spl
jakedog said:
I'm not a NOOB, I flashed my Tilt over 100 times. WAYYYYYY over 100 times. I flashed my Fuze to Hard SPL 1.90 and have tried 5 roms so far. I have a bad home key and need to return my Fuze. If my Fuze did indeed come with OEM SPL version 1.95 and I downgrade it to OEM 1.90 to return it I want to ensure that 1. I don't brick it and 2. I dont void my warranty on a 5 day old Fuze with a bad home key. I just don't want to get hosed over a Home Key. Thanks everyone!
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The Fuze does indeed come with spl 1.95. I checked the bootloader before applying Hard Spl!
Dumping SPL 1.95
Does anyone feel like Dumping SPL 1.95 and putting it up? I'm not dead in the water by any stretch with the home key but I'd like to take advantage of the 30 days free swap out for a NEW not Refub Fuze. I wonder if anyone else had done a return and not put 1.95 back on.
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Does anyone feel like Dumping SPL 1.95 and putting it up? I'm not dead in the water by any stretch with the home key but I'd like to take advantage of the 30 days free swap out for a NEW not Refub Fuze. I wonder if anyone else had done a return and not put 1.95 back on.
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It is very likely that ATT would never notice. Hell 80% of the company dosent even know the fuze exists lol.
That said, I have the SPL dumped. I wont be able to upload it until tomorrow though. I am at work all day.
You should be able to load it as per the directions in the Hard spl thread. Anyone that has opened the nbh can possibly post it before then though.
You could also post in the Hardspl thread or pm olipro or cmonex.
Thanks!
Thank you, I'm available as a US Beta Tester if anyone needs one.
I had to return a Fuze already, and I did so with SPL 1.90 from the HardSPL thread. All the guy at the store did was make sure the phone was in the box, didn't even turn it on.
Fortunately for us the service "experts" at ATT are not to smart. When I returned my TILT a few months ago they were shown how the keyboard was messed up but didn't even look through any of the settings either......
Imagine if some of us worked there...they would probably save a fortune on returns
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Fortunately for us the service "experts" at ATT are not to smart. When I returned my TILT a few months ago they were shown how the keyboard was messed up but didn't even look through any of the settings either......
Imagine if some of us worked there...they would probably save a fortune on returns
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My brother works for Verizon Wireless. I already told him how to check for HardSPL and the likes when someone comes in for service/repair. (Because I don't like Verizon...)
i do work for at&t. anytime a htc product comes back my boss makes me go through the device to make sure it is still stock
herg62123 said:
i do work for at&t. anytime a htc product comes back my boss makes me go through the device to make sure it is still stock
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Can you tell us what store you work in?
Nothing personal but just in case someone here ever needs to return a Fuze, we want to make certain you are not there to make certain it is still stock.
i live i alabama
but if someone mentions this xda website when the device is returned i kinda look away and give it an all clear. if xda is not mentioned i go through it with a fine tooth comb.
that is with me only.
others maybe different.
aruppenthal said:
It is very likely that ATT would never notice. Hell 80% of the company dosent even know the fuze exists lol.
That said, I have the SPL dumped. I wont be able to upload it until tomorrow though. I am at work all day.
You should be able to load it as per the directions in the Hard spl thread. Anyone that has opened the nbh can possibly post it before then though.
You could also post in the Hardspl thread or pm olipro or cmonex.
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Have you had a chance to upload the v1.95 SPL yet? I'm eager to get my hands on it.
Thanks.
~TWM
jakedog said:
Does anyone feel like Dumping SPL 1.95 and putting it up? I'm not dead in the water by any stretch with the home key but I'd like to take advantage of the 30 days free swap out for a NEW not Refub Fuze. I wonder if anyone else had done a return and not put 1.95 back on.
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HI,
Same problem. I have two US Raphael (Fuze AT&T), one with original SPL 1.95 and other with 1.90.OLINEX. I need instructions for Dumping SPL 1.95 and restore it. Someone can help
Thanks a lot !!!!
warranty att
i had to warranty exchange mine already and what i did was
1.flash att stock rom
2.flash spl 1.90
3.reflash att stock rom(checked in bootloader...spl 1.95 after reflashing rom)
ive had to do it twice already and worked like charm
xdeslitx said:
i had to warranty exchange mine already and what i did was
1.flash att stock rom
2.flash spl 1.90
3.reflash att stock rom(checked in bootloader...spl 1.95 after reflashing rom)
ive had to do it twice already and worked like charm
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So are you saying that if I flash my Fuze back to the stock rom, then flash the 1.90 stock spl, then flash the stock ROM again my spl will be back to 1.95?
Hey fellas,
I wonder if there is anyway to realize if your phone's ROM had been flashed before I bought it?
I have recently bought a new hd2, and as the ROM was very old, I decided to upgrade the ROM (from Taiwan region which was the only region allowed me to download ROM update because of the phone serial number), but after upgrading the language of my phone changed to Taiwanese. Accordingly, I guess my phone ROM had been flashed before I bought it, otherwise the language would have been Taiwanese FROM THE BEGINNING.
If we assume the seller has used HSPL to install the WWE ( English ) ROM on my phone, What if he/she had already removed the HSPL before selling it to me? Is there any other way to find out if my phone had been flashed?
I want to debate the seller but I want a good proof before any talk to them.
look in bootloader at what it says next to spl. If it ends '.hspl' then it has been hspl'd, but if they removed it, theres no way to tell. perhaps they used a goldcard, perhaps they used sspl.
samsamuel said:
look in bootloader at what it says next to spl. If it ends '.hspl' then it has been hspl'd, but if they removed it, theres no way to tell. perhaps they used a goldcard, perhaps they used sspl.
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It says SPL- 3.03.0000 XE,
By the way, is using Gold Card or SSPL illegal? I am asking this because if it is legal, I can't debate them.
Using HSPL falls in a gray area in terms of being legal or not, right?
it does mean that whilst its on the phone, but its not on the phone (your spl ends .0000, that means its stock) anymore so no problem. it doesnt break warranty permanently, only whilst its there, and its not, so dont worry about it.
Since its got a 3.14 rom on there, they must have used goldcard anyway, not hspl, and yes, theoretically it broke warranty by bypassing the manufacturers checks, BUT there is still all valid software on there, and no proof anything untowards happened, so no problem.
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Since its got a 3.14 rom on there, they must have used goldcard anyway, not hspl, and yes, theoretically it broke warranty by bypassing the manufacturers checks, BUT there is still all valid software on there, and no proof anything untowards happened, so no problem.
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Actually when I got it, it was ROM 1.43 Version, but I upgraded it and the ROM being 3.14 is as a result of my Upgrade, not theirs.
I can't be 100% sure but for me, if it's a Taiwanese phone with another language... then it has been flashed.
Anyway, what do you want to complain about?... you put it back to "original" setting by flashing the Taiwanese ROM... hope you can read it
One way could be if the previous owner sell it as "UK version" (any version but Taiwanese). Then you didn't buy what was advertised for.
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Anyway, what do you want to complain about?... you put it back to "original" setting by flashing the Taiwanese ROM... hope you can read it
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My complaint will be "Why you sold me an illegally flashed phone". (Assuming flashing phones is illegal, which I am not still sure about it)
Well, you can expect it from a eBay second hand private seller, but not from a reputable retailer.
Meteorite-The-Second said:
My complaint will be "Why you sold me an illegally flashed phone". (Assuming flashing phones is illegal, which I am not still sure about it)
Well, you can expect it from a eBay second hand private seller, but not from a reputable retailer.
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Since when is flashing a phone illegal?!? Hard SPL flashing "may" void your warranty. But if you use the original HTC roms theres no problem.
DonDie said:
Since when is flashing a phone illegal?!? Hard SPL flashing "may" void your warranty. But if you use the original HTC roms theres no problem.
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Are you sure? You have a source for it? Cause if you have, you'll make me so happy.
Do you like the phone? Does the phone work? If you answered 'Yes' to both of these my next question would be 'Does it matter?'!!
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Do you like the phone? Does the phone work? If you answered 'Yes' to both of these my next question would be 'Does it matter?'!!
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Apparently you didn't read my first post.
The phone language is now Chinese and its as a result of the fact that they probably sold me a flashed phone.
Now I have to either live with a Chinese language phone or I have to ( illegally? ) flash the phone again...
what's there to complain about now when you already flashed/upgrade to a new ROM?
That's like buying a new car from the dealership, installed turbos on it, blow the engine, and now demanding that the dealership to reimburse you for selling a lemon.
You shouldn't have touched or flashed the phone at all until you find out if it's a virgin HD2 or not.
lude219 said:
That's like buying a new car from the dealership, installed turbos on it, blow the engine, and now demanding that the dealership to reimburse you for selling a lemon.
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If you believe flashin phones is not illegal, that's one thing. BUT:
I really don't know how you compare installing a turbo on a car ( which clearly voids the warranty of the car due to the warranty terms and conditions ) and installing an OFFICIAL upgrade from the FORMAL htc website into my phone! I am not the one who flashed the phone so why I should be blamed?! I only did a legal upgrade and that's all.
Mate, tell me where in the htc website is mentioned that "you must not upgrade your phone ROM before you are sure that your phone is not flashed by the seller"?!
Assuming flashing the phone with another region's ROM is illegal:
They shouldn't have sold me a flashed phone in the first place. If it had not been flashed, I would not have faced this problem.
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If you believe flashin phones is not illegal, that's one thing. BUT:
I really don't know how you compare installing a turbo on a car ( which clearly voids the warranty of the car due to the warranty terms and conditions ) and installing an OFFICIAL upgrade from the FORMAL htc website into my phone! I am not the one who flashed the phone so why I should be blamed?! I only did a legal upgrade and that's all.
Mate, tell me where in the htc website is mentioned that "you must not upgrade your phone ROM before you are sure that your phone is not flashed by the seller"?!
Assuming flashing the phone with another region's ROM is illegal:
They shouldn't have sold me a flashed phone in the first place. If it had not been flashed, I would not have faced this problem.
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My point is that you have already flashed another ROM on top of it (official rom or not)...so what other trace of previous flashes being on there? I mean, you verified that the SPL is original and had 1.43 rom (which is realllllyyy old) on it, I don't know what else you want.
How is the packaging? Any form of knicks and scratch anywhere on the phone?
wow. definitely one of the silliest questions I can remember ever reading here.
Why is this a silly question? Sure, most users here don't care if they void their warranty by circumventing security to flash whichever ROM they want, but this guy is clearly not one of them. He bought a new HD2, and if he just wants an official ROM, he shouldn't have to resort to gold card or manipulated SPL methods to install an upgrade with the same language.
Meteorite-The-Second:
First of all, you're using the term flashing in the wrong way. Flashing is the way to put a new ROM (official or not) on the phone. When you put your current official upgraded ROM on the phone you flashed it.
Flashing the phone with an official ROM for it's original region certainly doesn't void the warranty. Using any kind of SPL manipulation or gold card method to flash any other ROM probably does, though if you restore the original SPL and ROM before returning it for warranty it most likely cannot be detected.
When you flashed the ROM that is currently on the phone, I assume that you did that via a USB connection from the computer as this is the official way of doing upgrades. If that is the case, then the ROM that was on the phone before must have been flashed using soft SPL or gold card, because Hard SPL cannot be removed by flashing via USB, and you obviously have the official SPL on your phone now.
If you bought the phone new, it really doesn't matter if flashing with gold card or soft SPL is actually illegal or not. Go back to the store and demand an official english language phone. If they cannot provide that, demand your money back and buy it somewhere else. Before leaving the store with the new phone, use the phones serial number to check which official ROMs you can download from the HTC web site.
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How is the packaging? Any form of knicks and scratch anywhere on the phone?
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Look at the difference between Revisions of the two different parts of the box:
img17.imageshack.us/img17/287/img5655d.jpg ( REV B) look at the red arrow
img571.imageshack.us/img571/5381/img5656m.jpg (REV A ) look at the red arrow
Why they should differ in Revision? Are the revisions on your phone boxing parts the same?
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X1-owner said:
When you flashed the ROM that is currently on the phone, I assume that you did that via a USB connection from the computer as this is the official way of doing upgrades.
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Yes, that's the case. I did it with a usb and upgraded it with the file I got from htc taiwan.
All other regions gave me the message " This file is not suitable for your device".
X1-owner said:
The ROM that was on the phone before must have been flashed using soft SPL or gold card, because Hard SPL cannot be removed by flashing via USB, and you obviously have the official SPL on your phone now.
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What if the seller removed the hspl BEFORE selling the phone to me i.e. what if the hspl have not been there in my phone from the beginning ( I didn't check the bootloader before upgrading the ROM so I know if the hspl were there or not) ? I have heard you can remove hspl after you have flashed your phone it while keeping the new official or cooked rom. Is that right? Or will you lose your newly flashed Rom if you remove the hspl?
BTW, thank you for your help.
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Hard SPL cannot be removed by flashing via USB,
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Are you sure about that? Doesn't flashing a stock ROM of the same region as your device get rid of it? Seemed to work when I wanted to downgrade from the official WWE 3.14 update.... Flashing the stock 1.66 WWE ROM took me back to SPL1.42, allowing me to put HSPL 2.08 back on.... (all done via USB)
I think if the OP explained a bit more about the phone's backgound more people might have been able to help. What country is the phone supposed to be from? Is it that it's supposed to be a UK device but it has actually come from Hong Kong? (for example)
Perhaps I shouldn't have tried to read this thread with a hangover ; )
Ouzo said:
Are you sure about that? Doesn't flashing a stock ROM of the same region as your device get rid of it? Seemed to work when I wanted to downgrade from the official WWE 3.14 update.... Flashing the stock 1.66 WWE ROM took me back to SPL1.42, allowing me to put HSPL 2.08 back on.... (all done via USB
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you just answered yourself. you didn't remove hspl by usb flashing cos hspl wasn't on your phone. you had stock 3.03 from the 3.14 rom and downgraded it to 1.66 stock, so therefore your line "seemed to work when I wanted to downgrade the......" is nonsensical.
Is there a HSPL for the AT&T Titan yet? Goldcard didn't work Trying to flash stock rom worked, but didn't downgrade SPL So, I diffinetly need HSPL for a branded AT&T Titan. Thanks
Take a look over here at forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1744253. You'll have some reading to do.
If you tried the SPL / HSPL on your AT&T Titan first (before debranding) then you are stuck without a fix (as of yet).
I was in the same boat and my Titan had a memory issue and caller's sound quality was horrible, so I got a warranty exchange from AT&T. When my new one arrived, I de-branded it first with the EUR ROM, then flashed SPL / HSPL and now I absolutely LOVE my Titan (prior, I HATED it). Now (after 6 replacements & no AT&T locks) I have a custom ROM and everything is unlocked and no caller sound quality / memory problems.
Sucks for me then...
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If you tried the SPL / HSPL on your AT&T Titan first (before debranding) then you are stuck without a fix (as of yet).
I was in the same boat and my Titan had a memory issue and caller's sound quality was horrible, so I got a warranty exchange from AT&T. When my new one arrived, I de-branded it first with the EUR ROM, then flashed SPL / HSPL and now I absolutely LOVE my Titan (prior, I HATED it). Now (after 6 replacements & no AT&T locks) I have a custom ROM and everything is unlocked and no caller sound quality / memory problems.
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Thanks for the info. I guess I will have to wait til developers come up with something for AT&T Titan. I wised the instructions included info for SPL/HSPL on AT&T Titan, Oh well.
Well they didn't know it was going to he different. In all my HtC devices, this is the first that has been different and the most complicated I must say.
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Thanks for the info. I guess I will have to wait til developers come up with something for AT&T Titan. I wised the instructions included info for SPL/HSPL on AT&T Titan, Oh well.
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Hello, if you actually checked the bottom of the guide I've written for this, it provides instructions on how to apply HSPL for your Titan, assuming you did all the correct steps on debranding it first
V. HSPL
i. Once confirming you have 2.5.xxxx.xx on your SPL screen, you will now proceed to the final part: enabling HSPL. What you will need to do is navigate once more into "DFT_HSPL_WP7SG1" (the .rar file you downloaded from DFT), and go here: >DFT_HSPL_WP7SG1>2_HSPL>DFT_HSPL_WP7SG1_INSTALL.ex e. Open the executable and properly read the instructions.
ii. Enter SPL once more on your phone and plug it into your computer, making sure that it says "usb" in black letters towards the bottom portion of the screen.
iii. Click next on the program and read careful about what requirements you will need on the computer. Typically, it should all be there, but it never hurts to make sure.
iv. Take a deep breath and click next. It will attempt to connect to the phone. If it succeeds, continue reading the instructions the program will display. If it does not work, recheck your wire connection and that you have spl 2.5.xxxx.xx on your device, and that it is in SPL mode.
v. Make sure you select the rom version that you have (it should be the only selection there, but just make sure it is before continuing). Select next once you've made your selection.
vi. It will install HSPL. Once completed, the phone may reboot itself back into SPL mode. If it has succeeded, underneath where it shows your rom version, it will either have "DFT" or "CotullaH" written there. Mine says "CotullaH".
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Hello, if you actually checked the bottom of the guide I've written for this, it provides instructions on how to apply HSPL for your Titan, assuming you did all the correct steps on debranding it first
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I know exactly where he is stuck because he is using USA AT&T Titan. The HSPL instructions doesn't warn USA AT&T Titans owners of the issue (AND IT SHOULD). So, if you following the procedure that every custom ROM points to exactly (like I did and a lot of other people did) you will be stuck on 2.5 SPL with no way out.
I haven't seen a warning to USA AT&T Titans anywhere that should say to de-brand your Titan first before attempting the HSPL or you'll be stuck.
Your outline will not help this person where he is stuck. Cotulla is working on it (I do believe).
There are a few warnings on the developer forum that AT&T branded phones must first be debranded before the phone can flashed with other roms
Ok, if you say so.
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There are a few warnings on the developer forum that AT&T branded phones must first be debranded before the phone can flashed with other roms
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by getting my AT&T Titian stuck at SPL 2.5
does this mean my phone is locked from any future customization?
that would really suck
franchize1989 said:
by getting my AT&T Titian stuck at SPL 2.5
does this mean my phone is locked from any future customization?
that would really suck
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Not totally. You can still update the OS thru cab loader method to Tango and I assume soon after the 7.8 is released you'll be able to do the same. The only thing is you are stuck with crappy stock AT&T ROM. I say crappy because I absolutely hated my phone until I got custom ROM on it. Can you do a warranty exchange with AT&T?
Easy to follow thread for hspl
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684912
If you have the image (or .nbh file) and you dont have it names ETERIMG.nbh it will not flash
here's why, The HTC OEM's names the device eternity. For the USB mode to be able to recognice the correct rom to flash it has to fit the model of phone you have. ETER is the first 4 letters to its OEM name. Add IMG and you got yourself the correct name for flashing roms to your device.
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Not totally. You can still update the OS thru cab loader method to Tango and I assume soon after the 7.8 is released you'll be able to do the same. The only thing is you are stuck with crappy stock AT&T ROM. I say crappy because I absolutely hated my phone until I got custom ROM on it. Can you do a warranty exchange with AT&T?
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I'm not sure if I have a warranty... I don't think I purchased it. Trying to understand, there's no fix to my situation as of right NOW... But somehow, can developers come up with a fix you think? Or, no matter what, I'm stuck with the stocked ATT Rom?
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I'm not sure if I have a warranty... I don't think I purchased it. Trying to understand, there's no fix to my situation as of right NOW... But somehow, can developers come up with a fix you think? Or, no matter what, I'm stuck with the stocked ATT Rom?
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Cotulla is working on it (I do believe). I stopped reading the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684912) when I got my new device in and de-branded it first (there by preventing the situation that you are in), however, where I left off in my following that thread was Cotulla asking for USA AT&T testers. I have followed the email notifications that I get from that thread, and nothing new that I've seen. On pages 25 - 28 you'll find that Cotulla is (or was) working on it.
So to answer your question, I tried everything when I was stuck on SPL 2.5 and nothing worked. You are stuck on AT&T stock ROM for now. Maybe throwing $$ at Cotulla would speed the process up?:fingers-crossed:
Hope this helps
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I'm not sure if I have a warranty... I don't think I purchased it. Trying to understand, there's no fix to my situation as of right NOW... But somehow, can developers come up with a fix you think? Or, no matter what, I'm stuck with the stocked ATT Rom?
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Hi, I'm currently on a debranded ATT Titan HSPLed with custom rom. Previously I managed to downgrade my SPL from euro v4 back to stock Cingular rom v1.10 These are the steps I took to downgrade:
1. Flashed stock Cingular rom 1.10 using RUU. This brings my Titan from euro Tango rom to stock cingular rom. However the SPL version was stucked at v4
2. Out of desperation, I flashed the stock TEST Cingular rom 2.01 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477189 again using RUU.
3. Please note that cingular rom 2.01 is a demo/test rom so its not functional.
4. RE-flashed stock Cingular rom 1.10. This time around it downgraded my SPL from v4 to the stock v1.10
Give this a try, and report back. If it works please before trying again to flash HSPL, debrand your titan to euro rom 2.05 using goldcard method
Goodluck.
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Hi, I'm currently on a debranded ATT Titan HSPLed with custom rom. Previously I managed to downgrade my SPL from euro v4 back to stock Cingular rom v1.10 These are the steps I took to downgrade:
1. Flashed stock Cingular rom 1.10 using RUU. This brings my Titan from euro Tango rom to stock cingular rom. However the SPL version was stucked at v4
2. Out of desperation, I flashed the stock TEST Cingular rom 2.01 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477189 again using RUU.
3. Please note that cingular rom 2.01 is a demo/test rom so its not functional.
4. RE-flashed stock Cingular rom 1.10. This time around it downgraded my SPL from v4 to the stock v1.10
Give this a try, and report back. If it works please before trying again to flash HSPL, debrand your titan to euro rom 2.05 using goldcard method
Goodluck.
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this dont work to go back to 1.1 spl to start over
we need cotulla to work it out
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this dont work to go back to 1.1 spl to start over
we need cotulla to work it out
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Exactly what I've been saying. The only out right now, is to send it back to AT&T and trade for another one.
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Exactly what I've been saying. The only out right now, is to send it back to AT&T and trade for another one.
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Hello there,
I had the same situation on my AT&T Titan for 2 weeks, thinking it was my Gold Card or SD, but I finally upgrade the HTC SPL to the official 2.6 from June update.
Then I reflash the Stock AT&T Rom, but the SPL remain at 2.6.
Then I quit for a while. Removed the battery for a couple of days, & tried the Debranding again using the IMG_Eternity_HTC_Europe_2.05.401.01_Radio_Signed_16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23_ETERNITY_RELEASE.nbh, renaming it to ETERIMG.nbh & Goldcard my phone onto this EU Rom.
Then the SPL was downgraded from 2.6 to the EU 2.5.
After that I proceeded to the DTF SPL2.5 & HSPL & voila, the custom Roms.
Hope it help.
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Hello there,
I had the same situation on my AT&T Titan for 2 weeks, thinking it was my Gold Card or SD, but I finally upgrade the HTC SPL to the official 2.6 from June update.
Then I reflash the Stock AT&T Rom, but the SPL remain at 2.6.
Then I quit for a while. Removed the battery for a couple of days, & tried the Debranding again using the IMG_Eternity_HTC_Europe_2.05.401.01_Radio_Signed_16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23_ETERNITY_RELEASE.nbh, renaming it to ETERIMG.nbh & Goldcard my phone onto this EU Rom.
Then the SPL was downgraded from 2.6 to the EU 2.5.
After that I proceeded to the DTF SPL2.5 & HSPL & voila, the custom Roms.
Hope it help.
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At this point, I'm deperate. Thanks for the advice, I will be sure try this method and hope for the best. I'll try to keep everyone updated with my results in this thread. Thanks again :good:
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I know exactly where he is stuck because he is using USA AT&T Titan. The HSPL instructions doesn't warn USA AT&T Titans owners of the issue (AND IT SHOULD). So, if you following the procedure that every custom ROM points to exactly (like I did and a lot of other people did) you will be stuck on 2.5 SPL with no way out.
I haven't seen a warning to USA AT&T Titans anywhere that should say to de-brand your Titan first before attempting the HSPL or you'll be stuck.
Your outline will not help this person where he is stuck. Cotulla is working on it (I do believe).
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My outline comes from the guide I made specifically for AT&T phones that need to do in order to safely debrand and install hspl.
So, if the person went to read the guide fully (where I mention several times that this process is required if they wish to install custom roms) then they can find that they'd be most likely be able to install HSPL after using my debranding method.
My AT&T Titan has HSPL applied and running a custom rom, and there's a picture guide provided in the post to show it.
However, I agree, I do not see any warnings that normally, you can't install HSPL on an AT&T HTC Titan all by itself without debranding. Honestly, there should be, because I can't count how many posts I've seen of people soft-bricking/bricking their devices.
EDIT: However, I guess I forgot to add, you cannot do anything after you applied the custom 2.5 SPL provided by DFT, IF you didn't debrand it prior. If you did debrand your phone, obviously you'll be fine. If you haven't though, then you'll be stuck along with everyone else and you'll need to get a new phone or wait for the fix.
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Hello there,
I had the same situation on my AT&T Titan for 2 weeks, thinking it was my Gold Card or SD, but I finally upgrade the HTC SPL to the official 2.6 from June update.
Then I reflash the Stock AT&T Rom, but the SPL remain at 2.6.
Then I quit for a while. Removed the battery for a couple of days, & tried the Debranding again using the IMG_Eternity_HTC_Europe_2.05.401.01_Radio_Signed_16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23_ETERNITY_RELEASE.nbh, renaming it to ETERIMG.nbh & Goldcard my phone onto this EU Rom.
Then the SPL was downgraded from 2.6 to the EU 2.5.
After that I proceeded to the DTF SPL2.5 & HSPL & voila, the custom Roms.
Hope it help.
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If this actually works, we need to spread the news about. There are still a bunch of AT&T Titans locked out there on SPL 2.5. franchize1989, OP, give us an update if it worked or not. Good luck