Last questions before flashing - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good evening everybody.
I've recently rooted my phone and installed a costum recovery. Now i'd like to say good bye to the samsung stock ROM and install a costum one (Android Revolution HD probably). But after flashing i'd like to find my phone as it was before! More precisely, messages, contacts, settings, apps (with user settings) should still be there; i'd like to backup everything is on the phone and restore it after flashing. To do that can i use Titanium Backup? It can backup it all? Are there other ways to do that?
Moreover, if i get the Siyah kernel and install the CM10 too, massages and apps are shared between the 2 systems, or everyone has its own?
Thanks in advance!

You can back up user apps and messages with titanium, restoring them safely in your new rom. You can't do the same with system apps or settings - you'll just break the new rom.
Contacts are restored when you log into google.

....additionally,I suggest using a third party launcher like nova, you can back up your layout, and it does a brilliant job of restoring widgets too, also remember to make a nandroid of your working Rom so if the flash goes wrong you can restore, and don't forget to back up your efs

Ok, thank you very much! And what's about dualboot? Is there a way to share massages, contacts and apps between the 2 systems (for example, if i send a message and then i change ROM, i can find that sent massage in the just booted ROM too)??
EDIT: Thank you too slaphead20. I didn't see your post.. I'll absolutely make a nandroid and EFS backup! How can i do the EFS backup? Simply from recovery? Can i use the GS3 Unified Toolkit?

Gonnelli1355 said:
Ok, thank you very much! And what's about dualboot? Is there a way to share massages, contacts and apps between the 2 systems (for example, if i send a message and then i change ROM, i can find that sent massage in the just booted ROM too)??
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You can, but it's complicated,I don't think siyah works with 4.2.x, I would stay away from dual booting until you are a bit more experienced.....I personally don't bother with it anymore, too much of a headache!

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[Q] Strange issue - Contacts, Dialer and Phone apps are all gone!

It happened today morning, but i didn't change anything since last night, didn't install any apps or updates
At first i manage to enter in the Contacts app, but i couldn't save a new contact, i did a system reboot and after that all three apps were gone :O
now i'm using GO Contacts, but i would really like to get the stock apps back
Rooted (CF-Kernel) KI4 2.3.4
any thoughts guys?
also, in the GO Contacts app i'm unable to save a new contact
maranello69 said:
It happened today morning, but i didn't change anything since last night, didn't install any apps or updates
At first i manage to enter in the Contacts app, but i couldn't save a new contact, i did a system reboot and after that all three apps were gone :O
now i'm using GO Contacts, but i would really like to get the stock apps back
Rooted (CF-Kernel) KI4 2.3.4
any thoughts guys?
also, in the GO Contacts app i'm unable to save a new contact
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Hmm ... really strange.
Maybe a problem with your Google account.
But disappearing system apps ... ?!
If you have got a recent system backup, then recover it.
If not, I recommend to re-install a stock ROM (flashing with Odin).
Do a hard reset after flashing.
Root your phone (e.g. flashing CF-Root kernel).
This should bring back the missing system apps.
Good luck !
Whit a hard reset, you mean a factory reset, right?
And no, no backups
there is no way to reinstall those apps?
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maranello69 said:
Whit a hard reset, you mean a factory reset, right?
And no, no backups
there is no way to reinstall those apps?
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Hard reset: Dial *2767*3855# into your phone.
This will wipe internal SD card!
EDIT:
Please do a full system backup in future!
I backup my apps with Titanium Backup (free app from the Market) and make a system backup with CWM Manager app (which is included in my CF-Root kernel).
i'll be sure to do that next time, i wanted to do a Nandroid backup after rooting, but i kept delaying it... until it was too late
i guess i can backup my user apps now with Titanium, or should i just start from blank with a stock rom?
flashing the stock rom will also bring back the stock kernel?
maranello69 said:
i'll be sure to do that next time, i wanted to do a Nandroid backup after rooting, but i kept delaying it... until it was too late
i guess i can backup my user apps now with Titanium, or should i just start from blank with a stock rom?
flashing the stock rom will also bring back the stock kernel?
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Yes, the ROM contains kernel, modem and CSC.
You can restore all user apps you have saved with Titanium Backup.
Do not restore any system app.
Just to be safe.
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a nice twist of things today, i have read some info regarding this issue on the webz and i decided to uninstall facebook and google+... and what do you know, my apps r back and working perfectly
but anyway, i'll proceed with the stock rom flash, just to be on the safe side

[Q] Need some answers

Helloo
I am new here and to android, bought my first android phone ever just few days back ,i have read and spent time reading and searching stuff here and gotta say i learned a lot in just few days but there are few things i didnt quite understood...
Q1, i knw the difference between odex and deodex read here but i wana ask, what are the main benefits of deodex ? is it that we can install theams and other stuff like that on stock with it? or smething else ..
Q2: i have tried successfully coderrom and blackhawk and i was able to restore my apps data with titanium backup but i tried cyanogenmod kang rc1 and was not able to restore anything is it not possible or any particular way to restore? i wana restore my call history , messages, contact etc usuallstuff.
Q3: the clockwork backup can it be restored directly above any rom ? if i am running cyanogen or coderrom and want to go back to my old backup just in case should i just restore my old backup directly ? or i have to flash the stock first and then apply backup(this is how i did for now tho)
Q1 - yes, for themes.
Q2 - I restore my backups pretty fine. But not messages and contacts. For contacts I the google account so it automatically restores. For sms I use Go Sms Pro inbuilt function.
And Q 3 yes, any rom.
consegregate said:
Q1 - yes, for themes.
Q2 - I restore my backups pretty fine. But not messages and contacts. For contacts I the google account so it automatically restores. For sms I use Go Sms Pro inbuilt function.
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Thanks
havnt checked gosms pro tho but as i tried to restore dailer storage data with titanium nothing happend it did said successful tho, nor did contacts , is it because the dailer of cyanogen is different than that of stock and coderrom etc ?
is that dialer a part of touchwiz in stock roms ? if so can it be installed on cyanogenmd ? one more thing i saw cyanogen dont have task manger also tried to restore it but titanium got stuck in it nothing happned so finalyy restarted my phone...
i am back to stock for now still trying to decide wich rom should i go for

confused about backing up

ok iv searched about and read the threads that popped up under where i typed the title.
when i got my S2 the first thing i did was flash the litening rom, iv been using it for a couple of months got loads of apps, texts, numbers and emails on there.
now on my old htc i had an app which did a backup of all my contacts texts emails etc called pim backup, worked ok on that phone, maybe a bit slow and crap but hey did the job.
right i fancy trying out a new rom, iv read that there are programs etc for backing up my rom incase of a problem, and programs to back up apps etc so i dont need to re download, whats gonna happen to my texts and emails?
any help or even a shove in the direction of a guide that i cant find will be appreciated
You do a full backup of your ROM (including personal stuff) with ClockWorkMod-recovery.
For single apps I recommend titanium backup. Note that your messages and such may not be compatible to other roms. For example, you cannot restore the messages from a TW-ROM into MIUI.
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ok well im currently running a backup on clockworkmod so this will do all my texts emails etc etc so when the new rom is installed i do the same but with restore??
and ill then be on a new rom, but with everything still on my phone (apart from any apps) which i restore thru titanium.
and i shall go look for this titanium backup right now.
thankyou very much
ooohh to add, is this clockworkmod backup, also backing up all my media files, like pictures, music, videos??
Pugme said:
ok well im currently running a backup on clockworkmod so this will do all my texts emails etc etc so when the new rom is installed i do the same but with restore??
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No because teh restore restore teh whole rom not just yoru SMS.
You dont need to backup your contacts etc as they are synced with yoru google acount.
If you want to backup/restore SMS you can use a SMS Backup & Restore
If you want to backup/restore your apps/app data you can use Titanium Backup.
When you install a new ROM your data (photos, ...) won't be touched.
ClockWorkMod will restore the entire ROM.
You have to be careful when restoring SMS'. If your ROM uses another app for messages, it won't be compatible.
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Titanium backup vs twrp backup

Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
pool_shark said:
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
adrynalyne said:
Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
airbus318 said:
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.

[HELP/DOUBT] Backing up data befor ROOT?

hey guys,
my GF want me to root and flash her SGSII-GT9100..
the thing is, she wants me to keep CONTACTS as they are, this means, their contacts have Adresses and emails included..
what I want to know is if I can make backup w/ KIES befor root the sgsII and after rooting and install Custom ROM I'll be able to restore everything as she wants?
regards m8s
Why not backup the numbers to her google account? Then you can restore them real easy.
Lennyz1988 said:
Why not backup the numbers to her google account? Then you can restore them real easy.
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that's also a solution!
but will sd card data be lost after root?!
No.
refedit said:
hey guys,
my GF want me to root and flash her SGSII-GT9100..
the thing is, she wants me to keep CONTACTS as they are, this means, their contacts have Adresses and emails included..
what I want to know is if I can make backup w/ KIES befor root the sgsII and after rooting and install Custom ROM I'll be able to restore everything as she wants?
regards m8s
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backu up with kies is enough...i've backed up all contacts via kies when the first time i root my sgs2
If you use a aosp, aokp or cm rom, then Kies will not work.
Lennyz1988 said:
If you use a aosp, aokp or cm rom, then Kies will not work.
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that´s the clue!
so I cannot use KIES to restore contacts after installing Custom ROM? but a BACKUP(export to sd) will after restore ot, right?
I want to onstall Resurrection Remix JB v3.1.3 [31/12][AOKP JB (4.2.1)](AROMA+OTA
Try these...
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that´s the clue!
so I cannot use KIES to restore contacts after installing Custom ROM? but a BACKUP(export to sd) will after restore ot, right?
I want to onstall Resurrection Remix JB v3.1.3 [31/12][AOKP JB (4.2.1)](AROMA+OTA
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No you can't use Kies to restore anything.
Backing up your data with google or samsung is easiest way. Go through Settings>Accounts>Google/Samsung then sync all the stuff you wanna keep safe. You can restore it after you install(flash) your new ROM.
You can also export it to sd card.
You can install mobile backup II from market. It will backup sms & call log also along with contacts. Once you flash your new ROM you'll have to install this app again and you can restore all the data.
Don't forget to do a nandroid backup before you flash new ROM.
Best of luck.
Ummm....you got titanium back up pro and a couple of contacts and sms back up apps at play store....now, why don't you save all the .vcf to dropbox or wherever?
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gastonw said:
Ummm....you got titanium back up pro and a couple of contacts and sms back up apps at play store....now, why don't you save all the .vcf to dropbox or wherever?
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yes I have TITANIUM PRO, she don't :angel:
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yes I have TITANIUM PRO, she don't :angel:
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Use your google account to get it.
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I would suggest some other rom than RR 3.1.3 if your GF is not a dev or experienced android tweaker. From my opinion it's just not ready for daily use. I had to tweak quite a bit and I'm still not satisfied. Issues with memory, GPS, camera, flash, BT etc. It will be a great rom and I'm waiting for updates. I repeat, this is just my opinion and I'm not a dev, I may have done something wrong or misunderstood some part.

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