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Hi guys,
I know that we have just gotten ICS, but do you think we would receive 4.0.4 at some stage as it does have some improvements to stability of the platform aswell as better camera performance and screen rotation?
To much to ask for perhaps?
Thanks!
SWFlyerUK said:
Hi guys,
I know that we have just gotten ICS, but do you think we would receive 4.0.4 at some stage as it does have some improvements to stability of the platform aswell as better camera performance and screen rotation?
To much to ask for perhaps?
Thanks!
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Not sure about 4.0.4 but Germany and Italy 3G models have received a revision of 4.0.3. This was due to 3G issues. Not sure if anything else has been changed. Apparntly 5.0 aka Jelly Bean in general is due out near the end of the year. So would be ages away for SONY Tabs lol
Chur
We need 4.0.4 because .3 is buggy. But I don't think we will see it.
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stifilz said:
Not sure about 4.0.4 but Germany and Italy 3G models have received a revision of 4.0.3. This was due to 3G issues. Not sure if anything else has been changed. Apparntly 5.0 aka Jelly Bean in general is due out near the end of the year. So would be ages away for SONY Tabs lol
Chur
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Jelly Bean will be Android 4.1 (or at least thats what media says in Spain) and I think It´ll be presented at the end of June (When google will show its Nexus Tablet)
I hope Sony wil bring Jelly Bean to our tabs because ICS doesn´t work really fine....
Also Spanish 3G Sony Tablets S received ICS 4.0.3 R2
Sony tablet will release 4.0.4 somewere end of this year but i think it would be "Probaly" next year, and even if jelly bean 4.1 will be launched it will take too long after launch to recieve the update, by then, you need a other tablet
d_olalla said:
Jelly Bean will be Android 4.1 (or at least thats what media says in Spain) and I think It´ll be presented at the end of June (When google will show its Nexus Tablet)
I hope Sony wil bring Jelly Bean to our tabs because ICS doesn´t work really fine....
Also Spanish 3G Sony Tablets S received ICS 4.0.3 R2
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Lol my bad, thought a change in name would increment to 5.0, but derr 2.1 Eclair, 2.2 Froyo, and 2.3 Gingerbread. HAHAHA oops
Correct Spain has same update as Italy.
Chur
as of today Jellybean 4.1 had been confirmed. It will be out this year for the Nexus devices. Hopefully that means this tablet can do it too... To Sony's credit, this was hardly the last tablet to get ics, so maybe we can hope for a quick turnover to 4.1 !
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as of today Jellybean 4.1 had been confirmed. It will be out this year for the Nexus devices. Hopefully that means this tablet can do it too... To Sony's credit, this was hardly the last tablet to get ics, so maybe we can hope for a quick turnover to 4.1 !
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Hopefully, but given Sony's slow upgrade to ICS for all their devices i'm not holding my breath
i have been waiting for jelly bean.
Soy was not that slow to upgrade to ICS. Not many has released that at all.
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i have been waiting for jelly bean.
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now that ICS has been released i hope some developers make custom ROMS for our tablet...mine have 4.0.3 rooted..maybe anytime soon we have a nice custom rom and more options.:good:
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now that ICS has been released i hope some developers make custom ROMS for our tablet...mine have 4.0.3 rooted..maybe anytime soon we have a nice custom rom and more options.:good:
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Need to unlock the bootloader first
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John Cooper, UK Product Manager for Sony Mobile, has been taking questions from customers on Facebook and, perhaps inadvertently, revealed that both the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S and Xperia mini pro will not receive the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update.
We have been waiting for Sony to make an official statement on their Jelly Bean upgrade plans and this is the first concrete news we have on the matter. The Xperia arc S was the highest specced 2011 Sony Xperia handset, so if this handset isn’t getting it we can conclude that none of the other Xperia handsets from the 2011 range will get the update either. However, the 2012 Xperia range do look likely to get the update, although timing remains an unknown right now.
Its funny that many of the 2012 Xperia handsets have lower specs than the 2011 models. It sux! anw, we can hope for a developer to port JB for 2011 Xperia lineup. & Cynomod10 is coming with JB
Credit goes to www.xperiablog.net
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/26/official-2011-sony-xperia-handsets-will-not-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/
They have made a mistake
Xperia 2011 handets should have had that minor upgrade to Jelly Bean, especially given the performance issues. Also, it means those handsets are stuck permanently on 2.6 Linux kernel, unless one goes the custom ROMs way. Thankfully, Cyanogenmod devs are supporting Xperia Mini Pro, so I am starting on a quest to root my SK17i.
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
It's a shame, but it was expected...
Yeah, i also expect 2012 xperias will probably get Jelly Bean update around this time next year (+/- couple months), just before Key Lime Pie comes out
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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but google successfully made JB for nexus S right? it has the same specs as the xperia 2011 lineup sooo sad
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I wonder....
does anyone remember Xperia x10i? the funniest was they came from Donut 1.6 to GingerBread 2.3. they've got 3 official FW update.. and me guess we still have a chance.. Our device is not low range since we have 512 ram inside. and some of Xperia 2012 family also have the same type.
I was expecting this. They won't update 2011 xperia phones to JB. But they will update 2012 xperias. If I buy another phone, it won't be a Sony. Maybe a Nexus 7 but not a Sony. I was very disappointed with the ICS update. Can't imagine a JB for our phones, maybe to slow...
Long live to Gingerbread! xD
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I dont't think Timescape has anything to do with Butter
Anyway, I'm not surprised, but they could change their minds if community presses them enough. As I remember, HTC upgraded Desire to GB even though they said phone was underpowered (for sense bloatware).
I smell some "business politic" here from sony.
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I wasn't really expecting that our 2011 Xperia phones would get 4.1. But I'm going to flash a custom rom when it's available
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who cares about their update...cyanogenmod 10 alpha has rolled out..have to tell its much more faster than GB..wait for fue for days l get the beta version of bug free ...just waiting to get beta cm10.
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
All hope of custom rom
**** Sony, where's Ericsson when we need him?
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The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
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Correct.
Nicely Explained Brother:good:
Here is example!
1.Bravia Engine wont work without proper supported lib files
2.Same will happen with xLoud
But we can force SONY to give us JB update
If majority of all the customers keep on telling them about the update for 2011 Family, after all customers are the only strength of any COMPANY
What say guys?
Yeah yeah yeah! As what I have expected from SONY!
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Well... There is
And i agree, Not only the developers here are better, they also keep updating us with Alpha, Nightly and Beta builds all the time, and they're also open for suggestions
I don't know why people keel slagging off Sony as a company?
Personally I buy an SE phone for the hardware (who else makes a tiny phone with a useable hardware keyboard?) while knowing you can optimise the thing to personal taste by modding the firmware and using apps.
As for updates the Mini Pro got 200% of what it's predecessor got (the X10 Mini Pro which only got Eclair).
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very sad news for xperia 2011 series, but im now testing CyanogenMod10 Alpha rom in lww but its have lot of bugs hope it will fix soon
And I was right! 4.1 probably coming after all!
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
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I just saw this on PTCRB. 6.1.1.B.1.10 version firmware certified for the Xperia U (ST25i).
Could this be a Jelly Bean update? :laugh: Because another ICS update would be 6.1.B... NOT 6.1.1.B
Suggestions?
p.s.: Still waiting for ICS.
This just means we could not root our phone with locked BL.
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As post above, it might be ics because it will be released in October
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Yeah, but strangely enough the same firmware has been certified for the Xperia P as well (already has ICS, firmwarenumber 6.1.B.0.544
So maybe it is Jelly Bean?
Don't think so but since when it isn't allowed to dream a little bit
maybe...
it is just waiting
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maybe...
it is just waiting
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definitely not jellybean.
martin255 said:
I just saw this on PTCRB. 6.1.1.B.1.10 version firmware certified for the Xperia U (ST25i).
Could this be a Jelly Bean update? :laugh: Because another ICS update would be 6.1.B... NOT 6.1.1.B
Suggestions?
p.s.: Still waiting for ICS.
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I think that it is a Jelly Bean release.
But remember that even though it has been tested by ptcrb, is there no guarantee that this build is going to get released.
So even though a Jelly Bean release may be undergoing testing at the moment, could the next release be a ICS or even a GB release.
Sony (nor any other company) would release the latest OS to their entry level handsets and ignore their flagship models, That's a REALLY bad plan for keeping your customers happy....
You can bet the Jellybean will rollout will happen simultaneously (very unlikely)
Or...
High end: Xperia T/S/SL/AcroHD
Followed by Mid Range: Xperia P
Finally Entry Level: Xperia U
Xperia P, U, go and sola
Well it's being prepared for a number handsets:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/2...tified-for-xperia-p-u-go-and-sola/#more-10186
I doubt it's JB - Sony has not mentioned it, what manufacturer does that? They said ICS is incoming...though I agree with others - perhaps it is JB but to be released much later?
I had a 2010 and 2011 Sony device. The 2011 Sony device had a slight delay to ICS - which was eventually 4.04 I think - it was an improvement on the ICS they had already released for other 2011 devices - they fixed bugs. So perhaps our round of devices will get the updated, bug-fixed version of ICS also?
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Xperia P, U, go and sola
Well it's being prepared for a number handsets:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/2...tified-for-xperia-p-u-go-and-sola/#more-10186
I doubt it's JB - Sony has not mentioned it, what manufacturer does that? They said ICS is incoming...though I agree with others - perhaps it is JB but to be released much later?
I had a 2010 and 2011 Sony device. The 2011 Sony device had a slight delay to ICS - which was eventually 4.04 I think - it was an improvement on the ICS they had already released for other 2011 devices - they fixed bugs. So perhaps our round of devices will get the updated, bug-fixed version of ICS also?
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Sony mobile plans to release jellybean for its first phone tomorrow, so they are at least working on jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32021564&postcount=87
that will be to fast for sony though no news about jb on xperia p (if you check their site it has)
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Sony mobile plans to release jellybean for its first phone tomorrow, so they are at least working on jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32021564&postcount=87
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I was SOOOOOOO close to saying it's a typo - I have seen SO MANY websites makes typos on this stuff, including Sony phones, BUT this is a SONY website so it's true! Wow...
This changes things a bit then. So they have finished Jelly Bean enough to be releasing it's first phone on it, so it must be under testing for other phones? I'd imagine they'll do what they did with 2011 phones - guarantee all 2012 phones to get the next update, in this case, Jelly Bean. I hope the fact that they're working on this privately means they will make it as smooth as they can. I still can't stop thinking about O2 network in the UK NOT upgrading Sony phones to ICS "because the performance was so bad vs. Gingerbread".
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I was SOOOOOOO close to saying it's a typo - I have seen SO MANY websites makes typos on this stuff, including Sony phones, BUT this is a SONY website so it's true! Wow...
This changes things a bit then. So they have finished Jelly Bean enough to be releasing it's first phone on it, so it must be under testing for other phones? I'd imagine they'll do what they did with 2011 phones - guarantee all 2012 phones to get the next update, in this case, Jelly Bean. I hope the fact that they're working on this privately means they will make it as smooth as they can. I still can't stop thinking about O2 network in the UK NOT upgrading Sony phones to ICS "because the performance was so bad vs. Gingerbread".
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Yes it could be a typo... or at least that they are missing to add that Android 4.1 will first be ready when it is done...
Same goes for the version number, that is being tested on PTCRB, but it is most likely a version, that is tested, for a later release of jellybean, for our devices.
Anyway, jellybean is worth a wait, so if we could get jellybean in a month, would I prefer that, compared to getting ics now.
It may be JB... but I don't expect it will be JB but a nearly perfect ICS firmware
edit: it is just a big ics update, got it from inside info
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Fatthyrahim said:
Hi all,
SO
My friend's wife works for Google, when asked for the favor of the insider , engineers in Google said, first stage is to roll out Xperia release 5 to try and fix problem, then both S and Xperia will get Jelly bean with a definite fix. Testing as we speak.
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Straight from the horse's mouth??? Tablet S will infact be getting Jelly Bean???
stifilz said:
Straight from the horse's mouth??? Tablet S will infact be getting Jelly Bean???
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Thanks for the heads up :good:
I know no insider information, but at the time of the Xperia Tablet S release in early September, Sony said that the JellyBean update was complete and where working on optimising it's small apps function.
Say that took another 2 weeks to do, which takes you to around the 21st September, Sony take between 6 & 10 weeks to test the update (according to articles etc) so i'd estimate around mid November for JellyBean on our Xperia Tablet S.
SWFlyerUK said:
I know no insider information, but at the time of the Xperia Tablet S release in early September, Sony said that the JellyBean update was complete and where working on optimising it's small apps function.
Say that took another 2 weeks to do, which takes you to around the 21st September, Sony take between 6 & 10 weeks to test the update (according to articles etc) so i'd estimate around mid November for JellyBean on our Xperia Tablet S.
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Oh yeahhhh!
on the other hand sony italia said in their facebook page that JB will not arrive in our Sony Tablet S...
sapphire88 said:
on the other hand sony italia said in their facebook page that JB will not arrive in our Sony Tablet S...
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The Tablet S and the Xperia Tablet S are different devices.
Recently i was searching the web for a custom rom for the sony tablet s. Which was a waste of time cause i did not find anything. What I did find is that people are saying that you can use the sony tablet s flasher tool by condi to upgrade to jelly bean 4.1.2. can some one verify this. If this is true is it prerooted, able to flash custom .zips.
4.1.2 update isnt out on any of Sony's tablet. So you cant flash it, no.
Ubichinon said:
4.1.2 update isnt out on any of Sony's tablet. So you cant flash it, no.
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i can give u the link. just excited and curious about the update
but i can post because i am a new member. can i pm u.
I am not saying it is out just confirming.
SONY where art thou :silly:
put a stop to all this nonsenses and give us unlocked bootloaders and jellybean updates for all our Xperia devs!!
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SONY where art thou :silly:
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What??
nukerdude50 said:
i can give u the link. just excited and curious about the update
but i can post because i am a new member. can i pm u.
I am not saying it is out just confirming.
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There will be a Jelly Bean update, its just not out yet.
There is no optin in condi's tool to flash 4.1.2 because it isnt released yet. But probably. there will be, once the update is released
Ubichinon said:
There will be a Jelly Bean update, its just not out yet.
There is no optin in condi's tool to flash 4.1.2 because it isnt released yet. But probably. there will be, once the update is released
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Exactly!! Condi's new tool flasher is Jelly Bean READY because it does not use the recovery to update. It writes straight to the partitions and because we have the decrypt tool (now in Windows, originally only with AIO on tablet with old recovery) we can decrypt the zip and add back-door and root etc and whatever we want (i.e apps as system) to the 'ROM' and then use Flasher
Stifilz
Any News about the Jelly Bean Update for the S1? Do you think the Update still will come
RX4
ResidentX4 said:
Any News about the Jelly Bean Update for the S1? Do you think the Update still will come
RX4
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S1 wont get jb.
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SammiSaysHello said:
S1 wont get jb.
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Statement on Jelly Bean Release Schedule for Sony Tablets
"We will be releasing Jelly Bean for the Xperia Tablet end of April 2013 / early May 2013 for the Xperia Tablet. This update will resolve a memory management issue that may cause the Xperia Tablet to shut down from time to time.
Currently we do not have a roadmap to release the Jelly Bean update for the 1st Generation Tablet (Sony Tablet S)."
If you read the latter sentence carefully, they speak about "THE" jb-update. So... there is an update (ready or under development) but is not to be released yet. They absolutely don't say it will never come....
source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/03/24/xperia-tablet-s-jelly-bean-update-due-late-april/
Vennesch said:
Statement on Jelly Bean Release Schedule for Sony Tablets
"We will be releasing Jelly Bean for the Xperia Tablet end of April 2013 / early May 2013 for the Xperia Tablet. This update will resolve a memory management issue that may cause the Xperia Tablet to shut down from time to time.
Currently we do not have a roadmap to release the Jelly Bean update for the 1st Generation Tablet (Sony Tablet S)."
If you read the latter sentence carefully, they speak about "THE" jb-update. So... there is an update (ready or under development) but is not to be released yet. They absolutely don't say it will never come....
source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/03/24/xperia-tablet-s-jelly-bean-update-due-late-april/
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it's all up for interpretation
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Key lime is going to be out by the time Sony sort out jelly bean, I sense the death of android if companies are allowed to take open source and lock it down and fill it with all there bloody bloatwhere. And then fob off customers with lame excuses
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gordo79 said:
Key lime is going to be out by the time Sony sort out jelly bean, I sense the death of android if companies are allowed to take open source and lock it down and fill it with all there bloody bloatwhere. And then fob off customers with lame excuses
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Yeap, and god knows if the Xperia Tablet is going to recieve anything beyond 4.1.2...
If thats the case, im pretty sure my next tablet wont be a Sony
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Yeap, and god knows if the Xperia Tablet is going to recieve anything beyond 4.1.2...
If thats the case, im pretty sure my next tablet wont be a Sony
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If the xperia tablet s won't receive anything beyond 4.1.2 or 4.2 or 5.0 i will unleash my wrath on sony.
R: [Q] sony tablet s 4.1.2 update?
The Italian branch of Sony denied the possibility of an upgrade for the 1st gen. Tablet S.
"Ciao @AntwanLou, l'aggiornamento JB sarà disponibile solo per Xperia Tablet S. Puoi approfondire sul forum: goo.gl/eBuEs"
English translation: "Hi, the JB update will only be available for the Xperia Tablet S. You can get more info on our forum"
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Ubichinon said:
Yeap, and god knows if the Xperia Tablet is going to recieve anything beyond 4.1.2...
If thats the case, im pretty sure my next tablet wont be a Sony
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You do know that the Sony Mobile team (which is the one behind the Tablet Z) is very good at being transparent and releasing timely updates, right? The VAIO team is not and they were the ones who did Tablet S and Xperia Tablet S. But at any rate, all manufacturers are quite bad at releasing timely updates, so it's not just Sony. That's why we should all stick to Nexus devices...
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You do know that the Sony Mobile team (which is the one behind the Tablet Z) is very good at being transparent and releasing timely updates, right? The VAIO team is not and they were the ones who did Tablet S and Xperia Tablet S. But at any rate, all manufacturers are quite bad at releasing timely updates, so it's not just Sony. That's why we should all stick to Nexus devices...
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Under "The xperia tablet" im meaning the current one, the XTS. I dont care about Sony's inner misunderstandments, id like to have a Sony product, that gets treated like all the others Sony product. Otherwise there is no point of getting a Sony over any other brand out there.
Thats my point, you cant sell Porsches, release a new Porsche that is actually made from the Porsche Watches team and do nothing about it.
Its just that im disappointed with Sony's decision makings and my new tablet would never be a Sony tablet again.
Handsets are another thing, although if Sony continues to be Apple-like and release phones with non-removable batteries only, im going to switch to Samsung.
Oh well hopefully my tablet get replaced by sony xperia tablet z if you do get the option i would take it.
Least if been offered to exchange mine for tablet z.
If I can exchange this for an Xperia Tablet Z then ill be satisfied.
I will forgive sony consider sony products if they are oke, i will regardless buy playstation 4.
but thats asuming sony exchange my tablet for tablet z in the end pull through.
My trust on sony tough totaly depends how sony deals with sony xperia tablet s issue.
I think sony should give 2 options least, aka a choice between part off cash back because xperia tablet s obviously not worth much, or free upgrade to xperia tablet z with accesory's being replaced asswell for equalivants.
Honestly tough i think the best option is to just get all the xperia tablet s replaced by tabket z,
Either way if they do the first option they should unlock bootloader and root, its obvious their might not be any future updates after jelly bean.
ofcourse time will tell what will happen, i hope sony does the right thing.