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Hello, I'm sure this has been mentioned many times, but how come there is no separate development section for this device?
From what i've heard the Flyer is just the WiFi version? and the EVO View 4G is the Sprint version with WiFi/4G
How can developers develop without being able to distinguish between one from the other?
I don't understand it either. It doesn't even have to be it's own section but like a sub-section within the flyer's section. This has been brought up before and I think we are just being ignored.
i don't understand it either. Who do we need to get in touch with to add in a sub-section.
I also don't understand how you were the only one to comment on this. Like is there no other HTC View customers out there on this site? Surely can't believe that.
Perhaps now that we have a reliable s-off development will start to pick up and it will get split appropriately...
I don't mind it too much. The roms are labeled if they are view or flyer. truthfully, I would prefer a subforum but it would be too quiet.
hasseye said:
i don't understand it either. Who do we need to get in touch with to add in a sub-section.
I also don't understand how you were the only one to comment on this. Like is there no other HTC View customers out there on this site? Surely can't believe that.
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^^^^^Quiet would be easier to get info for our specific device.
Not the first. I also put up a thread asking but it was soon pushed to the bottom of the list because no one was responding to it. I have asked many times in many different threads. My wife has a view and I have it rooted but not wanting to go to far from that because it seems all the dev is for flyer and not view. Don't want to get into something and then have no support.
Edit: I sent a pm to the forum admin so hopefully he will have some info.
hasseye said:
From what i've heard the Flyer is just the WiFi version? and the EVO View 4G is the Sprint version with WiFi/4G
How can developers develop without being able to distinguish between one from the other?
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Nope. The US version of the Flyer is WiFi only, but Europe (and Asia? Maybe other regions) have both WiFi-only, and a WiFI/3G versions of the Flyer.
Aside from Sprint branding, there is little or no difference between the View and the Wifi/3G Flyer.
Its easy for the devs to indicate in their thread what version(s) their ROM works on. This is how it works for every other device on this forum that has carrier variants. If the dev doesn't say, you ask. Not that hard.
And you also have clever guys like the team that is making the FlyHigh ROM, which automatically detects whether you have a 3G version or not.
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Nope. The US version of the Flyer is WiFi only, but Europe (and Asia? Maybe other regions) have both WiFi-only, and a WiFI/3G versions of the Flyer.
Aside from Sprint branding, there is little or no difference between the View and the Wifi/3G Flyer.
Its easy for the devs to indicate in their thread what version(s) their ROM works on. This is how it works for every other device on this forum that has carrier variants. If the dev doesn't say, you ask. Not that hard.
And you also have clever guys like the team that is making the FlyHigh ROM, which automatically detects whether you have a 3G version or not.
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Just so it's clear I'm not trying to start a fight. It just seems that Flyer users seem to say "they are so similar, except for x,y and z differences.
So you are saying that the flyers roms will work on the View? No
If they are so similar then why are they separate in their development? Multiple roms for flyer and 2 for view.
Also if this smart rom is detecting the 3g/wifi only version of the flyer how does this help View users?
I am only looking for clarification because you answered a question in a thread asking for a view thread. And that doesn't answer why there is no place for view users to go. You merely stated the are alike but that still does not mean Flyer roms will work on View, or does it?. If they are so similar then one rom should fit all. Correct?(yes I know flyer has no 4g)
I also got a response from Mike the admin and he said he will put it on a request list(subforum for view). He does not make the final decision but the person who does will see this request.
CrippleB said:
So you are saying that the flyers roms will work on the View? No
Also if this smart rom is detecting the 3g/wifi only version of the flyer how does this help View users?
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Do you know whether its actually impossible for a ROM to work on the Flyer and the View? I personally don't have the knowledge to say, but my gut feeling is that a dev can make a ROM that works on any version, if they wanted to. Unless there is so much different between the Sprint radio and the Flyer one, that a completely different ROM is needed.
Same way their was a script incorporated in the FlyHigh ROM to sense the version, my thought is a dev can incorporate something similar for Flyer/View, or have something like the carrier provisioning for phone ROMs.
So its seems like its a question on whether there really is enough technical difference wit the View to justify a seperate dev forum. But when someone says their should be a separate subforum, since the "Flyer is WiFi only", its pretty clear that they don't know enough to make that determination.
I don't know if it is impossible to run flyer roms on the view. But I assume they can't because why else would they be developing separately. Unfortunately It's my wifes view tab so I can't just use it as a test bunny. If it was mine to do with what I please I would test flash one of the flyer roms. I also know someone who didn't get a data plan and is using their view tab as wifi only. I am curious if without a data plan maybe a flyer rom would work because the radios are not needed. Or if we did flash onto data plan view maybe everything would be cool except for 3g/4g parts. But if you pay for that service I'm sure you would not want a rom that couldn't use it.
I guess the next step is to look at the two roms side by side. I don't know enough about these things to see how technically different they are. Is there any dev that is making roms for both the flyer and view? Maybe that person would know the differences and if one rom can fit all. Then instead of a flyer forum it can morph into a flyer/view forum. It can be a bit confusing for some not to see their device listed in the forum section. Especially since the view is rooted and dev is going on. And some might just think that the similarities mean flyer roms can be flashed and possibly break things. I know it's their fault but you know how some flash happy people are.
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Aside from Sprint branding, there is little or no difference between the View and the Wifi/3G Flyer.
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The WiMAX radio begs to differ.
I have the wifi only Flyer and my ROM is made for the wifi only one. However, as I get deeper into the programming of it, I do see all the wimax coding in the wifi only version. I imagine it is just turned off. I don't have a View or I would play around to try to get it to work. Currently, I believe if a View owner flashed a wifi only ROM, everything should work except 3G/4G which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
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I have the wifi only Flyer and my ROM is made for the wifi only one. However, as I get deeper into the programming of it, I do see all the wimax coding in the wifi only version. I imagine it is just turned off. I don't have a View or I would play around to try to get it to work. Currently, I believe if a View owner flashed a wifi only ROM, everything should work except 3G/4G which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
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Actually, I tried doing that. Clockwork recovery wouldn't start the installation. I don't think it will defeat the purpose because I use it as a WIFI-only device and pretty there are some out there doing the same.
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Westfire said:
I have the wifi only Flyer and my ROM is made for the wifi only one. However, as I get deeper into the programming of it, I do see all the wimax coding in the wifi only version. I imagine it is just turned off. I don't have a View or I would play around to try to get it to work. Currently, I believe if a View owner flashed a wifi only ROM, everything should work except 3G/4G which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
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Is the source code posted on the HTC developers website for the flyer's kernel compatible with the view, possibly, then? I've been holding off on a custom kernel because I thought that it wouldn't work with 4g on the view
SMS, Edge Data, Phone Call work out of the box..... NO SMSC or EPN modification needed
http://android-maisters.net/forum/index.php?threads/rom-miui-v4-2-5-11-vigor-port-coming-soon-05-14-2012.72/
Say thanks to siulmagic for his magnificent work
ROM isn't generally available though, right?
tekhna said:
ROM isn't generally available though, right?
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I downloaded this Rom like an hour ago. If siulmagic doest mind, I will post mirrors for u guys to try out.
That's great news! I'm on a T-Mo prepaid plan right now.
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nice, is it based on the ics and sense 4.0?
I hope it works with ATT as well.
BTW, do you get voicemail notification at all? the latest ics rom does not seem to give me voicemail notofication at all.
Im sorry but since rom is not yet released, i cant allow links to be distributed yet. im not sure to release or not, right now everything works for gsm, but cdma is a different story. right now i dunno if should release, let gsm users enjoy rom with mostly everything work, and let the cdma user suffer and wait for me to fix data for them, or hold out the rom until data works for cdma users then release, so everyone is happy.
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Im sorry but since rom is not yet released, i cant allow links to be distributed yet. im not sure to release or not, right now everything works for gsm, but cdma is a different story. right now i dunno if should release, let gsm users enjoy rom with mostly everything work, and let the cdma user suffer and wait for me to fix data for them, or hold out the rom until data works for cdma users then release, so everyone is happy.
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I'm a CDMA user, and I'd say release it for the long-suffering GSM users!
slap a big red warning on there that cdma will be buggy so people don't get upset somehow, but let the gsm users have some fun
that's what i think,
It's your call, you made it after all.
x D
tekhna said:
I'm a CDMA user, and I'd say release it for the long-suffering GSM users!
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I agree. At least those users will profit from your hard work
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siulmagic said:
Im sorry but since rom is not yet released, i cant allow links to be distributed yet. im not sure to release or not, right now everything works for gsm, but cdma is a different story. right now i dunno if should release, let gsm users enjoy rom with mostly everything work, and let the cdma user suffer and wait for me to fix data for them, or hold out the rom until data works for cdma users then release, so everyone is happy.
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I'm a Gsm user and would love to try this
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rom is alredy released guys, check the development secion, and read op carefully =P
Does the HTC One Google Edition support Wifi Calling on T-Mobile?
Before jumping to "No", please only answer if you specifically know for a fact first-hand. I know it's not apart of stock android, but HTC wrote the firmware and there are other manufacturer specific changes like Beats Audio that's included.
Thanks
Just found out from another member who has one and is on T-Mobile that it doesn't support it
MSmithXDA said:
Just found out from another member who has one and is on T-Mobile that it doesn't support it
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I'm sure there would be a way to flash it later on.
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megabiteg said:
I'm sure there would be a way to flash it later on.
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Negative Ghost Rider.
The Nexus 4, sold right in T-Mobile stores, doesn't include Wifi calling. It's simply not possible on the AOSP build.
If you want/need Wifi calling, DO NOT get an AOSP phone. It will never work.
It's not just as simple as "hey, flash this .apk and you're off!" Wifi calling goes very deep into the ROM and just isn't available on an AOSP device.
If you disagree, please go over to the N4 forum and collect your $1400 bounty for getting Wifi calling to work on AOSP. It's just not possible at all on the N4 and the S4/One is no different. You've been warned!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012468
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Negative Ghost Rider.
The Nexus 4, sold right in T-Mobile stores, doesn't include Wifi calling. It's simply not possible on the AOSP build.
If you want/need Wifi calling, DO NOT get an AOSP phone. It will never work.
It's not just as simple as "hey, flash this .apk and you're off!" Wifi calling goes very deep into the ROM and just isn't available on an AOSP device.
If you disagree, please go over to the N4 forum and collect your $1400 bounty for getting Wifi calling to work on AOSP. It's just not possible at all on the N4 and the S4/One is no different. You've been warned!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012468
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^^^This
ericshmerick said:
Negative Ghost Rider.
The Nexus 4, sold right in T-Mobile stores, doesn't include Wifi calling. It's simply not possible on the AOSP build.
If you want/need Wifi calling, DO NOT get an AOSP phone. It will never work.
It's not just as simple as "hey, flash this .apk and you're off!" Wifi calling goes very deep into the ROM and just isn't available on an AOSP device.
If you disagree, please go over to the N4 forum and collect your $1400 bounty for getting Wifi calling to work on AOSP. It's just not possible at all on the N4 and the S4/One is no different. You've been warned!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012468
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It's not there now, but do we know for certain its on the rom and not in the kernel? Because unlike in the nexus 4, from what I understand the manufacturers have control of the kernel on The One and S4 GE, meaning they could release it in the future... It's how there's Beats Audio (I think) but also why there isn't aBeats Audfio notification icon
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It's not there now, but do we know for certain its on the rom and not in the kernel? Because unlike in the nexus 4, from what I understand the manufacturers have control of the kernel on The One and S4 GE, meaning they could release it in the future... It's how there's Beats Audio (I think) but also why there isn't aBeats Audfio notification icon
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Not going to happen. Feel free to bookmark this thread and call me out but it won't happen.
When you add beats, IR, Zoe, WiFi calling etc...you might as well have a stock ROM. Too much carrier noodling IMO. Just use stock Sense.
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ericshmerick said:
Not going to happen. Feel free to bookmark this thread and call me out but it won't happen.
When you add beats, IR, Zoe, WiFi calling etc...you might as well have a stock ROM. Too much carrier noodling IMO. Just use stock Sense.
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Maybe, but that's not a fact. That's just a prediction. There's no official statement saying one way or the other, and so far there's only evidence showing the opposite through the implementation of Beats. You could definitely be right though, but also could be wrong. I think it's more dependent on whether or not the code changes are in the kernel or in the Rom. Manufacturers of Google Editions can't do much (if anything) to the Rom. But they do have control of the kernel from what I understand (which that and $2 can buy you a cup of coffee )
I love Stock Android, as it sounds do you. But we like it for different reasons. I like the UI and the behavior (and actually intensely dislike those in Sense or Touchwiz). I however have no objection and in fact welcome additional lightweight and optional features that can be added via the kernel and/or settings. Things such beats, IR, Zoe, Wifi calling, etc are all unobtrusive and in my mind are nice to have. The only way to fully avoid those is with a Nexus. Google Editions on the other hand are more of an open game, and I wouldn't rule out what manufacturers may add.
If only they hadn't destroyed the buttons on the GEs....
There is no way to get AOSP or AOSP derived ROMs to boot with WiFi calling as it stands. See attached screen shot to see what folders and build.prop gets changed with WiFi calling.
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Well that sucks Sounds like it needs ROM changes then, in which case, yeah I agree...not gonna happen, unless wifi-calling became carrier neutral. Oh well. Thanks
With the release of the bump website imminent many New Kernels are being developed. I just wanted to create a thread where we can focus on Kernel discussion. We can talk about requests and features we want added. We can talk about removal of screen sharpeneing. There is a lot on the Horizon with this phone and I'm super excited for development.
Delete . I posted on the wrong thread.
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Im not getting any fc's on the messaging app.??
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I'm slightly confused.
Maybe he is saying he misses those and would like a developer to look into adding them back in randomly ?
We are Android, we are diverse !
trent999 said:
Maybe he is saying he misses those and would like a developer to look into adding them back in randomly ?
We are Android, we are diverse !
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lol That was great. If anybody spots this thread in the wild and is testing for an aosp Rom. I'd like to ask if they've corrected screen sharpening? It's a pretty annoying feature.
Dunno if it's related to kernels or not, but I'd really like a permanent fix for the voicemail notification issue. I've tried most the solutions floating around here, but nothing seems to stick.
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low volt kern with a USB fast charge is all I need
No offense to OMJ. I am just suprised we have no other ROMS for this phone.
wytecaztle said:
No offense to OMJ. I am just suprised we have no other ROMS for this phone.
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there's ViperOne, LeeDroid, and Insertcoin.
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there's ViperOne, LeeDroid, and Insertcoin.
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For the Sprint version?
wytecaztle said:
For the Sprint version?
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yep, right now the only one that supports sprint yet is ViperONE, because of the resent firmware update, we haven't got yet, but the first ones they put out prior to the update have sprint support, go to international thread and read up on it.
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For the Sprint version?
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yep, right now the only one that supports sprint yet is ViperONE, because of the resent firmware update, we haven't got yet, but the first ones they put out prior to the update have sprint support, go to international thread and read up on it.
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LeeDROID v7.6.0 also supports sprint.
Why aren't these roms present in the Sprint section I wonder? Seems odd as nobody would think to check the international forums.
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Why aren't these roms present in the Sprint section I wonder? Seems odd as nobody would think to check the international forums.
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easier for the devs to monitor one thread than a bunch.
Well they can do what Viper did and create a small thread with links then lock it
I blame htc lol
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
OMJ said:
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
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yup...I think a lot of people didn't see the M9 as a real upgrade to the M8 and only for those who didn't jump from M7 to M8 combined with the horrible press about the overheating (I've yet to experience) and camera (love the camera updates for what I use it for) and whining about it not being 4k (seriously, who needs that on a phone?) means it's not been a very popular device.
Screw 'em...I think it's a huge upgrade from the M7, especially the camera (even in it's original iteration).
Many thanks to @OMJ @benny3 and @chas123 for supporting this device.
OMJ said:
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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I could agree, but I'm still looking for a CM/AOSP flavor to rock on mine... And not to mention before the latest updates, we could still flash all those feature loaded ROMs. But lately, I'm hesitant to flash anything other than BadBoyz.
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barleysoda said:
This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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This is especially true when it comes to theming. You pretty much can theme it the way you want very easy. Im not a big themer or theme design, this latest Android 5.1 is very difficult to theme. Since its still new quite a bunch of apks are not compiling correctly and im not that skilled yet or have the time lately to figure out why, LOL. Other then the Viper Theming threads not much Theming has been going on throughout all HTC M9 versions.
You are better running badboyz for sprint, our firmware is extremely sensitive and with so many international versions using their base, our lte issues arrise of we aren't using a rom that supports our phone properly.
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You are better running badboyz for sprint, our firmware is extremely sensitive and with so many international versions using their base, our lte issues arrise of we aren't using a rom that supports our phone properly.
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Traded my flex2 for a HTC One m9, rooted it, unlocked it, and then I installed badboyz the very first day. Love it. I'm so used to having cm/aosp on all my devices and I customize the crap out of them but I have to say that I have hardly seen any lag or performance issues on this phone. The phone gets pretty warm when doing heavy tasks like playing a game and what not but I don't find it any different then other devices doing the same tasks.
Either way, I love the m9. It's a well built solid device. I jumped at the chance to trade haha. Their loss
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I will say this is probably the least active forum I have seen out of all the HTC's I have own which is every flagship for Sprint since the evo 4G (even going back to TP1 & TP2). That being said, OMJ's badboyz is awesome I have been using it since I got the phone. There is also no red text hboot and custom splash screens just like my M8 had. I like this phone, while really not much different from my M8 besides the camera it's not as big of fail as people make it out to be. I'm hoping the M10 is a nice refresh and hopefully HTC is done with trying camera gimmicks. I would like to see higher resolution screen next year & wireless charging.
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I will say this is probably the least active forum I have seen out of all the HTC's I have own which is every flagship for Sprint since the evo 4G (even going back to TP1 & TP2). That being said, OMJ's badboyz is awesome I have been using it since I got the phone. There is also no red text hboot and custom splash screens just like my M8 had. I like this phone, while really not much different from my M8 besides the camera it's not as big of fail as people make it out to be. I'm hoping the M10 is a nice refresh and hopefully HTC is done with trying camera gimmicks. I would like to see higher resolution screen next year & wireless charging.
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The majority goes on in the overall m9 forum and not sprint as I guess devs don't want to check multiple forums.
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I really don't see where development is lacking. As many have said there are quite a few roms in the main m9 forum that offer sprint support. If you look at the cm development device tree sprint support is added. What's missing?
LeeDroid, and Insertcoin drains horrible.......... lol any suggestion?