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I have an HTC EVO 3D That I purchased yesterday, and It's been flashed to Boost Mobile (A company owned and operated by Sprint) Boost is a CDMA service. I am interested in rooting my device, but when I tried this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218193 I was stopped because my HBOOT isn't supported. Baffled, I went searching the forums and found this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695 unfortunately, I'm not sure if it's safe to proceed with this procedure, because I wasn't there when my phone was flashed, and I don't know if HTC Dev was used. Furthermore, I don;t know if I have S-On of S-OFF, because I didn't flash my phone. Also, it has come to my understanding that linux is required for that method of HBOOT downgrade. Is there any way I can avoid that? It's kind of a lot of trouble.
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
Edit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646815
wikdNoob said:
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
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Hboot says I have S-ON. By following the steps in that link you'll give, will I be able to restore my flash without losing MMS and 3G, etc.?
I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
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I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
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Well the whole idea is that i need to downgrade HBOOT in order to root, and I was under the impression that to downgrade Hboot i needed to have S-OFF.
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
wikdNoob said:
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
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THank man, i wish i could click thanks a thousand times. I'll try this method and see what i get.
Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
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Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
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I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app. Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
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I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app.
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From what I remember, if you boot a recovery from fastboot (fastboot boot recovery.img), you wouldn't need to extract any boot image. When you boot a recovery from fastboot, you'll be able to write to the boot partition, so all you need to do is flash the rom and it should work. With that said, I've read a lot of times that flashing ics roms with s-on will cause bootloops. I've never seen that personally, I was s-off before ics came along.
Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
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You probably know this but ill say it just incase. You only flash gapps on aosp roms. I think all the ics gapps say ics in the name, and most of the time gapps for any rom are linked in the same thread as the rom.
Look at your pm in a little bit. I'm gonna send you some stuff that'll help you figure out how to correctly flash a phone so that you can s-off without worry. I can't really post it here.
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So I have Scott's CleanROM GBE 1.7.5 on my phone. I was wandering through my phone's settings, and accidentally hit something in the update area. I do not know what I was thinking, but I know I expected it to ask me if I was sure I wanted to update. So far it has only done the first part where it prepares the phone for the update. I do not know when the other part is coming but I assume it is automatic. I was planning on updating to a rooted ICS once I felt comfortable with it (just seemed a little harder than my original flash of rooted GB). So if it would be easier to just update to ICS some way now, I would be very willing to do that. I am s-on, I believe I installed Amon Ra, but I am not sure how to check and not sure if I have an actual recovery rom or not.
I checked around and found similar problems, but nothing really like mine since my update has not gone all the way thru yet. If anyone could help, it would be greatly appreciated. THank you.
Easiest way is to relock your bootloader, run the newest ruu, unlock and flash recovery again. That way you will be set up to run any ics Rom without having to worry about flashing a patch
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
pwned3 said:
Easiest way is to relock your bootloader, run the newest ruu, unlock and flash recovery again. That way you will be set up to run any ics Rom without having to worry about flashing a patch
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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Ok just to make sure I know and don't mess anything else up. I relock (should be easy to.find a guide) . Then run the update on my phone? Then unlock thru HTC again, and flash the actual amon or CWM to my phone? And from there I will be able to flash any ICS Rom with more ease?
And thank you for the quick reply.
Edit: I searched the internet more for less-similar situations. I think all I have to do is re-lock. Download the newest RUU from Android police and put it in the root of the SD card as PH98IMG.zip (I'm assuming it should be the internal memory, but please correct me if I am wrong.) Hold volume down & power to boot into bootloader, then the phone takes it from there?
Also,nothing I have to do as far as unrooting?
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Also,nothing I have to do as far as unrooting?
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Nope just relock the bootloader
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Nope just relock the bootloader
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Okay, thanks a lot. And I edited this into a prior post, but I just wanted to make sure:
I have to re-lock. Download the newest RUU from Android police and put it in the root of the SD card as PH98IMG.zip (I'm assuming it should be the internal memory, but please correct me if I am wrong.) Hold volume down & power to boot into bootloader, then the phone takes it from there?
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Okay, thanks a lot. And I edited this into a prior post, but I just wanted to make sure:
I have to re-lock. Download the newest RUU from Android police and put it in the root of the SD card as PH98IMG.zip (I'm assuming it should be the internal memory, but please correct me if I am wrong.) Hold volume down & power to boot into bootloader, then the phone takes it from there?
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Then you just have to press continue when it tells you to.
PS: Another way to get to the bootloader is to use adb (make sure USB debugging is enabled on your phone)
Command:
adb reboot bootloader
I find it easier than holding down buttons for a long time, but that's just my personal preference.
(Also, most custom ROMs can reboot to bootloader from within the ROM. I forget if CleanROM GBE includes the advanced power menu.)
pwned3 said:
Easiest way is to relock your bootloader, run the newest ruu, unlock and flash recovery again. That way you will be set up to run any ics Rom without having to worry about flashing a patch
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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Good advise, and if he RUUs to ICS, then he should not even get asked to install the update because it will already be installed on his phone.
Also RUU twice. Just reboot into bootloader right away and install the RUU a second time. Then boot up normally and remove the zip file from the sdcard.
Thanks, you all helped a lot. I was able to get the stock rom, rooted, and running smoothly. But, once I tried to install custom roms I had problems. I decided to S-off to make it easier from here on out. After a few tries, it said I had successfully done the S-off. I tried to install Juopunutbear custom hboot, directly afterwards and it said it installed but I was stuck on the Juopunutbear screen. After this, I have not been able to get past hboot.I do not think the custom hboot actually installed. It is saying from the top:
***TAMPERED***
***LOCKED***
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.27.0000
RADIO-2.22.10.0801r/2.22.10.0803r
OpenDSP-v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
Aug 6 2012, 19:24:37
My external sd card needed formatting, so I just did that. And my plan is to RUU again (i guess twice), flash recovery (when clicked on currently, nothing happens), I guess root although I am not sure about this part, then try to install a custom rom.
Didn't want to make another thread just to check on this, but does this sound about right?
And as far as installing rom since I am now s-off, just go to recovery and flash it, nothing else at all to worry about?
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Thanks, you all helped a lot. I was able to get the stock rom, rooted, and running smoothly. But, once I tried to install custom roms I had problems. I decided to S-off to make it easier from here on out. After a few tries, it said I had successfully done the S-off. I tried to install Juopunutbear custom hboot, directly afterwards and it said it installed but I was stuck on the Juopunutbear screen. After this, I have not been able to get past hboot.I do not think the custom hboot actually installed. It is saying from the top:
***TAMPERED***
***LOCKED***
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.27.0000
RADIO-2.22.10.0801r/2.22.10.0803r
OpenDSP-v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
Aug 6 2012, 19:24:37
My external sd card needed formatting, so I just did that. And my plan is to RUU again (i guess twice), flash recovery (when clicked on currently, nothing happens), I guess root although I am not sure about this part, then try to install a custom rom.
Didn't want to make another thread just to check on this, but does this sound about right?
And as far as installing rom since I am now s-off, just go to recovery and flash it, nothing else at all to worry about?
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The jbear hboot might have failed because you are on the newest global update with 2.27 hboot, and I believe the controlbear tool still has the 2.25 hboot. (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
I think there is an unguarded 2.27 hboot somewhere, so you should flash that manually.
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Right now, like I said the hboot says at the top 2.27.0000
When I reboot from there, or boot it regularly it goes to a JuopunutBear, black and green writing screen.
I have tried to install this forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843030 ([HBOOT] HBoot 2.27 (from 4.03.605 OTA) Unlocked) from both, but cannot figure out how to do so.
edit: within JuopunutBear, wiping says "can't open" and applying update gives "failed to open loopdevice" and "failed to mount /sdcard" when I try to update.
Within the regular hboot, I get "no image" as it searches for files.
Well, I put the same file on a new sd card, and it worked on the first try, kinda.
Now it appears my phone is bricked. It will not boot at all. She barely lasted a few hours s-off before I messed it up. Any tips anyone out there can give to this sad fellow, or am I off to get a replacement?
A little more info on this. Windows tries installing QHUSB_DLOAD driver for it when plugged in, but unsuccessfully. The charging indicator does not come on either. Have tried to turn it on plugged in with battery out, and battery in both ways.
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Well, I put the same file on a new sd card, and it worked on the first try, kinda.
Now it appears my phone is bricked. It will not boot at all. She barely lasted a few hours s-off before I messed it up. Any tips anyone out there can give to this sad fellow, or am I off to get a replacement?
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Depending on what caused the brick, it may be recoverable.
Check out the unbricking thread in the dev section.
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
Wanted to post this in the NeoMax thread, but I am currently not allowed to. I gave up on my last Rezound, and am getting a replacement here soon. I did a bunch of reading before and after I got my Rezound, and a bunch more the past few days as I wanted to get an ICS rom. Unfortunately, the one time I deferred from guides I followed (installing the JBear hboot), I killed my Rezound. I now want to stay S-on, at least until I gain some more familiarity and skill with this whole process.
What I plan on doing is once I get the Rezound, installing the OTA update, possibly having to wait for it to do so. I assume this would be the newest, .2, global update. I plan to unlock, flash recovery, then root. The rom I really want however is NeoMax. There are limited instructions on how I go about this. But from what I understand I change the filename to PH98IMG and flash it from hboot? The file name is originally, GlobalRuuPH98IMG.zip, but the thread title claims ICS De-Sensed 3.14.605.12, which I believe is two versions prior. So here I am lost. If it is in fact older, I have to flash the rom through recovery, then flash the kernel, correct? If so, do I just use the 3.14.605 that was in the NeoMax thread?
Sorry to bother you all with what i'm sure others have done many times. Like I said, I have read a lot on this, its just that I either did not understand in the least what the guides were saying, or it seemed like this situation was much different. And on a side note, if there is any other rom out there that someone would recommend that would make this easier (such as being on the latest kernel), I wouldn't be opposed to trying it. I just want one that is desensed, as it is one of my main reasons for wanting a custom rom.
malignancyy said:
Wanted to post this in the NeoMax thread, but I am currently not allowed to. I gave up on my last Rezound, and am getting a replacement here soon. I did a bunch of reading before and after I got my Rezound, and a bunch more the past few days as I wanted to get an ICS rom. Unfortunately, the one time I deferred from guides I followed (installing the JBear hboot), I killed my Rezound. I now want to stay S-on, at least until I gain some more familiarity and skill with this whole process.
What I plan on doing is once I get the Rezound, installing the OTA update, possibly having to wait for it to do so. I assume this would be the newest, .2, global update. I plan to unlock, flash recovery, then root. The rom I really want however is NeoMax. There are limited instructions on how I go about this. But from what I understand I change the filename to PH98IMG and flash it from hboot? The file name is originally, GlobalRuuPH98IMG.zip, but the thread title claims ICS De-Sensed 3.14.605.12, which I believe is two versions prior. So here I am lost. If it is in fact older, I have to flash the rom through recovery, then flash the kernel, correct? If so, do I just use the 3.14.605 that was in the NeoMax thread?
Sorry to bother you all with what i'm sure others have done many times. Like I said, I have read a lot on this, its just that I either did not understand in the least what the guides were saying, or it seemed like this situation was much different. And on a side note, if there is any other rom out there that someone would recommend that would make this easier (such as being on the latest kernel), I wouldn't be opposed to trying it. I just want one that is desensed, as it is one of my main reasons for wanting a custom rom.
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Don't worry, you're not bothering anyone.
The people who claim to have bricked their phones when they have a boot loop and say nothing about their rom and firmware are bothering people.
Keep doing what you are currently doing and people will always be willing to help you.
Ok, so back to helping...
Of you're starting on GB, make sure you update to 3.14.605.12 before updating to the most recent one.
If you update via OTA then you don't need to worry.
Keep in mind that NeoMax is based off of the 3.14.605.12 build, so you'll have to mix n match the right way to get it to work on the latest firmware.
I believe it was you have to use the new kernel if you use the new radios and hboot.
So after installing NeoMax, flash the PH98IMG that contains the newer kernel, not the 3.14.605.12 version.
Or use fastboot to flash the kernel. (my preferred method while s-on)
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
PS: A good way to get the required 10 posts to post in the dev section is post random stuff in the off topic thread.
wlmeng11 said:
Don't worry, you're not bothering anyone.
The people who claim to have bricked their phones when they have a boot loop and say nothing about their rom and firmware are bothering people.
Keep doing what you are currently doing and people will always be willing to help you.
Ok, so back to helping...
Of you're starting on GB, make sure you update to 3.14.605.12 before updating to the most recent one.
If you update via OTA then you don't need to worry.
Keep in mind that NeoMax is based off of the 3.14.605.12 build, so you'll have to mix n match the right way to get it to work on the latest firmware.
I believe it was you have to use the new kernel if you use the new radios and hboot.
So after installing NeoMax, flash the PH98IMG that contains the newer kernel, not the 3.14.605.12 version.
Or use fastboot to flash the kernel. (my preferred method while s-on)
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
PS: A good way to get the required 10 posts to post in the dev section is post random stuff in the off topic thread.
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As far as which kernel, this is what was said in the NeoMAX Q&A:
Q: "I flashed your rom and my phone gets really hot after a while. In fact, Ive noticed it on all the newer roms lately. What could be causing it and how can I attempt to fix it?"
A: "Make sure you have updated your radio to the latest available and then flash the 2nd to latest kernel. This combination has been known to have the best rom performance for all my roms and decreased heat"
SO this means I should use the 4.03.605.1? And the newest radio will automatically still be on there from the OTA update, or will I have to flash those as well? I have no experience in flashing radios so this is new ground to me.
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As far as which kernel, this is what was said in the NeoMAX Q&A:
Q: "I flashed your rom and my phone gets really hot after a while. In fact, Ive noticed it on all the newer roms lately. What could be causing it and how can I attempt to fix it?"
A: "Make sure you have updated your radio to the latest available and then flash the 2nd to latest kernel. This combination has been known to have the best rom performance for all my roms and decreased heat"
SO this means I should use the 4.03.605.1? And the newest radio will automatically still be on there from the OTA update, or will I have to flash those as well? I have no experience in flashing radios so this is new ground to me.
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That QA is outdated.
It was referring to using the 3.14.605.07 kernel as opposed to the then-most-recent 3.14.605.10
Back then those two builds were similar enough that they could mix n match without issues.
Between 3.14.605.12 and 4.03.605.1 is a lot of changes. (whole number change to represent it) Specifically, new hboot and radios. Therefore, it is incompatible with the older kernels.
When you're S-ON you can't touch the radios except through an official RUU.
Even with s-off I doubt you can flash radios from recovery (not sure on this one), and NeoMax doesn't have any radio files anyway. (nor does any rom I know for this phone)
If you haven't yet updated to 4.03.605.1 then I recommend that you stay on 3.14.605.12 until Neo updates the ROM.
If you already updated, it is still possible to run NeoMax. You just have to manually flash the new 4.03.605.1 kernel after installing the ROM.
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
So i was having the ghost touch issues on my phone for the past 2 weeks and thought maybe just to take it into sprint. So i had to unroot, RUU, etc and it was having the same issues. Took it into sprint and they said they ran diagnostics on it and nothing was wrong but when i got home it was doing the same thing. But now im updated on 2.89 and HBoot 1.58 and want to know how to root, s-on or s-off doesnt matter, and also downgrade so i can got back to aosp ROMs or Mazda's and also sense ROMs. So if anyone can help it wuld be greatly appreciated. P.S Yes i've searched this topic and it just came up with a lot of different pages and methods so telling me to search before asking isnt necessary.
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So i was having the ghost touch issues on my phone for the past 2 weeks and thought maybe just to take it into sprint. So i had to unroot, RUU, etc and it was having the same issues. Took it into sprint and they said they ran diagnostics on it and nothing was wrong but when i got home it was doing the same thing. But now im updated on 2.89 and HBoot 1.58 and want to know how to root, s-on or s-off doesnt matter, and also downgrade so i can got back to aosp ROMs or Mazda's and also sense ROMs. So if anyone can help it wuld be greatly appreciated. P.S Yes i've searched this topic and it just came up with a lot of different pages and methods so telling me to search before asking isnt necessary.
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You can try my guide which was designed to get you from any build with S-ON to a rooted, S-OFF Sprint ICS configuration as easily as possible. You can probably skip the first step, which is flashing the 2.89.651.2 RUU.exe, since it sounds like they did that already when they worked on your phone.
If they did the OTA instead you could have problems with the HTC unlock, so if that happens just go back and flash the RUU.exe.
Good luck!
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
You can try my guide which was designed to get you from any build with S-ON to a rooted, S-OFF Sprint ICS configuration as easily as possible. You can probably skip the first step, which is flashing the 2.89.651.2 RUU.exe, since it sounds like they did that already when they worked on your phone.
If they did the OTA instead you could have problems with the HTC unlock, so if that happens just go back and flash the RUU.exe.
Good luck!
ramjet73
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Thanks ramjet73, definitely wanna try but is the wire trick actually safe to do?
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Thanks ramjet73, definitely wanna try but is the wire trick actually safe to do?
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Yes. I've never heard of phone that was damaged by it. The SD card may get corrupted but that can always be reformatted.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Yes. I've never heard of phone that was damaged by it. The SD card may get corrupted but that can always be reformatted.
ramjet73
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Okay ill try, again thanks for your help and the guide ramjet73!
Unable to downgrade HBOOT 1.53.0007 to 1.49.0007
Hi, yesterday I decided to "upgrade" my sister's HTC EVO3D GSM to make unlock, root...also S-OFF if needed to flash any ROM, but it was the first time i was flashing EVO3D so it was whole day I sit at the computer watchin&reading tutorials and this forum before I could do anything...finally i partially succed, I made unlock by HTCdev method, flashed recovery via fastboot...flashed ROM from recovery, but I wanted to install CM9 ROM by agrabren and surely it wasnt working, because the phone is no HBOOT 1.53.0007...
So for the instance, the phone:
Is HTC EVO3D GSM
was on stock ICS 4.0.3 OTA rom
HBOOT 1.53.0007 S-ON
UNLOCKED S-ON by htcdev method
followed this thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28106291 and flash ROM
Then it's working on ICS NonSense® 4.0
but i want to try CM9/10/AOKP ROMs so i realized i need to downgrade HBOOT to 1.49.0007 and get revolutionary S-OFF so i tried to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471246
The first method copying mmcblk0p31.img to sdcard and here im stuck....I dont understand why, but the command "adb shell dd....." copies mmcblk0p31 file of 16kB size and total empty content, so I cant change any version to 1.20.720.1 and cant downgrade....
So how to solve this problem? Is it cause that first I need to get hboot 1.53 S-OFF?
Thanks for the reply...
//Im sorry my post is also located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833367 where is I think better place for it and I didnt find how to delete it from here...
Hey guys....
I feel really stupid about this entire thing but I've finally decided to post here because I'm getting desperate.
The guide in question (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563342) is fairly striaghtforward. Except the links are really scattered, at least for me. I'm on HBOOT 1.58, and I've had numerous problems even getting to the point where my phone is relocked (it's currently HTC unlocked because I use an MIUI port ROM) successfully. I would bring my problems to that thread, but I don't have 10 posts, which is a questionable rule but w/e.
Anyway, here's my problem. First, I'll tell you what I've done so far, and the problem I've come across both times.
1. Place a "2.89 RUU" or whatever onto my SD card and call it PG86IMG. This is where most of my confusion is. OP of that thread hasn't yet covered what the difference between 2.17 and 2.89 is, but my understand is that 2.17 corresponds with HBOOT 1.5 and 2.89 to 1.58. Honestly, all these numbers piss me off when there's little to no documentation of what the hell they even mean. This file is about 448 MB and my understanding was that it was a stock RUU and would make it so I could access my phone while it was still locked, which you can't do with a 3rd party ROM like the one I usually use.
2. Lock my phone's bootloader. I just did fastboot oem lock in Windows and it rebooted to *** RELOCKED *** *** Security Warning ***. Apparently this is normal, and now I need to flash said RUU.
3. Flash the RUU. This took an EXTREMELY long time, and it went through Loading PG86IMG.zip.. then to some other stage that took much less time to complete. After that it just sits in the bootloader.
Here's my concern... I can't access my SD card. Why? Because I can't even get out of the bootloader or fastboot. All it does is sit here, and since I can't remove the update file PG86IMG.zip, if I try to enter recovery (which I'm sure won't work anyway) it will try to start loading that file again. I don't really know what step I missed here, but it's probably because I'm fairly clueless when it comes to this stuff, lol.
So, I did this once, and then I waited about 6 hours for HTCdev's site to stop crashing so I could unlock my phone again. Made it through a school day with my old ROM and stuff, deleted the update files so they wouldn't run again, etc. etc.
Now, I'm doing it again today with this new 2.89 RUU or whatever and the same exact problem is happening. So now I'm at a stage where my phone is entirely useless until HTCdev.com starts actually sending e-mails. I swear, these crashes on HTCdev's part could not be more untimely.
So basically, what am I doing wrong with relocking my phone? OP implies that I should be able to start my phone (not the bootloader, but actually start it) because they ask after you've supposedly re-locked the bootloader for you to move a new PG86IMG.zip file onto your SD card, which I'm unable to do because my phone can't get out of fastboot/bootloader screen. That's the next step, which is actually doing the downgrading.
And yes, I know that it's possible for HBOOT 1.58 because someone else already did it (last post in the thread).
At this point, I don't really care when I get it to work, man. This is proving to be such a gigantic pain in the ass just to install a new Jelly Bean ROM. I JUST WANT JELLY BEAN!
If anyone can send a noob in the right direction, that'd be great. I have all week and all weekend, but I've run out of time to waste on this for today. I guess most of what I need is to know what files I'm supposed to be downloading, because I have a feeling that's most of what I'm getting wrong.
I hope I've explained my problem well enough, and thanks a ton to anyone who just suffered through reading my essay and can offer help. I'll be sending this to OP of the guide as a PM so hopefully if none of you guys can help they can.
Thanks a ton everyone, I just want to get Jelly Bean on my phone and stop dealing with MIUI :laugh:
Update: Found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495358. I believe this will probably help me out a lot! Wish I would've seen it sooner.
TL;DR: Need better explanation of how to relock 1.58 hboot bootloader with a stock rom, and where to find the rom.
Honestly, your post was tl;dr for me, but I think you would be best served to follow ramjet's guide to s-off. It's really the easiest and includes everything you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
coal686 said:
Honestly, your post was tl;dr for me, but I think you would be best served to follow ramjet's guide to s-off. It's really the easiest and includes everything you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
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Lol. I'm not surprised. I tend to pour my heart out on forums when I get to the point of desperation.
Gonna be honest with you, zero interest in the wire tap method. Zero. Not trying it. Not even going to think about it. Sorry, I appreciate the idea but honestly screw that.
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Lol. I'm not surprised. I tend to pour my heart out on forums when I get to the point of desperation.
Gonna be honest with you, zero interest in the wire tap method. Zero. Not trying it. Not even going to think about it. Sorry, I appreciate the idea but honestly screw that.
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Then, honestly, you are EXTREMELY limited as to what you can do. S-Off is your best bet. Good Luck.
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Then, honestly, you are EXTREMELY limited as to what you can do. S-Off is your best bet. Good Luck.
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I don't understand how that limits me at all. I just want to use the downgrade method to hboot 1.4 and s-off. I never had any intention of staying on hboot 1.5, and certainly not hboot 1.58.
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I don't understand how that limits me at all. I just want to use the downgrade method to hboot 1.4 and s-off. I never had any intention of staying on hboot 1.5, and certainly not hboot 1.58.
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From my understanding, the downgrade method works with hboot 1.58, but you have to brick your phone twice. But it really is the more challenging method so you may want to reconsider your stance on the wire trick. I've yet to hear of an unhappy customer who followed ramjet's guide.
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From my understanding, the downgrade method works with hboot 1.58, but you have to brick your phone twice. But it really is the more challenging method so you may want to reconsider your stance on the wire trick. I've yet to hear of an unhappy customer who followed ramjet's guide.
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I'm not sure.
However, this thread can be closed because I *finally* got the RUU to work properly! I was doing things in the wrong order, and not using the .exe was a silly idea. It's much easier that way. Currently have stock ROM running on a locked 1.58 hboot. Now I can continue!
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I'm not sure.
However, this thread can be closed because I *finally* got the RUU to work properly! I was doing things in the wrong order, and not using the .exe was a silly idea. It's much easier that way. Currently have stock ROM running on a locked 1.58 hboot. Now I can continue!
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Good! :thumbup:
Keep posting questions, we'll do our best to help.
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Good! :thumbup:
Keep posting questions, we'll do our best to help.
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LOLJK. I swear, at this point HTC must be trolling me. It's loaded up now. Thanks for trying to help everyone! I can't wait to get Jelly Bean on here soon!
Doubt this will help, but did you remove the PG86IMG.zip from your sd card? Also, did you run the ruu.exe while in bootloader (it will say fastboot usb in red). I'm sort of grasping at straws since the ruu usually works without issue when using the exe.
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Doubt this will help, but did you remove the PG86IMG.zip from your sd card? Also, did you run the ruu.exe while in bootloader (it will say fastboot usb in red). I'm sort of grasping at straws since the ruu usually works without issue when using the exe.
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I have a feeling you didn't see my update It magically decided to work. Here comes double bricking action... this should be (un)fun D:
i am on hboot 1.58 and used HTC Unlock and wire trick to get s-off. i was about to flash a JB Rom but realized that it requires hboot to be lower than 1.58. so all i do is pick the first hboot 1.40 from Here, put it in the root of SD, boot up the phone in recovery and flash that PG86IMG.zip.
once its done ill swap the SD with another one which would have the ROM i want to install, then boot again in recovery and wipe Dalvik+cache, and then flash ROM?
am i doing it right?
thank you.
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i am on hboot 1.58 and used HTC Unlock and wire trick to get s-off. i was about to flash a JB Rom but realized that it requires hboot to be lower than 1.58. so all i do is pick the first hboot 1.40 from Here, put it in the root of SD, boot up the phone in recovery and flash that PG86IMG.zip.
once its done ill swap the SD with another one which would have the ROM i want to install, then boot again in recovery and wipe Dalvik+cache, and then flash ROM?
am i doing it right?
thank you.
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No, do it from the bootloader
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No, do it from the bootloader
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I have the exact situation with my wife's phone? I want to install Pacman on her phone which is still stock. Is all I have to do what chubaan said?
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I have the exact situation with my wife's phone? I want to install Pacman on her phone which is still stock. Is all I have to do what chubaan said?
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Just download the hboot you want, 1.50 or below to get PACMAN to.boot, rename it as PG86IMG.zip place it on the root of your sd card, go to.the bootloader and select yes to apply update , and your done
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Thank you.. that's what I did. And after you're done make sure to wipe dalvik and cache from recovery, at least in my case I had to. And then flash the rom. And that's it..
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So I'm currently on Flyhalf's CM10.1 (S-ON), and I checked the recommended firmware/radios for the ROM and realized I'm outdated. It calls for Hboot 2.26 and radio 2.23.10.0123r, 2.23.10.0124r. but I'm on 2.25 and 1.22.10.0421r/1.22.10.0424r. I just updated to the latest version of the rom and I keep getting random bootlooping as well as the rom being way more unstable than the previous build I was on for about 4 months.
So, I'm trying to use Wildhorse's guide to updating firmware through RUU in hopes that it will solve my problems and it just plain isn't working. I've put the RUU in my external SD as PH98IMG, waited for my battery to charge to 90%, shut off the phone, pulled the battery, then gone into Hboot to flash it but I keep getting "No Image or Wrong Image" and it just goes back to the main Hboot screen every single time. Can anyone explain to me why this is happening even though I'm following everybody's directions exactly? I've been searching through the forums for about 2 hours now and I can't get an answer.
I'm still kind of new to HTC devices and how they work, so if anyone could help me figure this out I'd be very thankful.
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So I'm currently on Flyhalf's CM10.1 (S-ON), and I checked the recommended firmware/radios for the ROM and realized I'm outdated. It calls for Hboot 2.26 and radio 2.23.10.0123r, 2.23.10.0124r. but I'm on 2.25 and 1.22.10.0421r/1.22.10.0424r. I just updated to the latest version of the rom and I keep getting random bootlooping as well as the rom being way more unstable than the previous build I was on for about 4 months.
So, I'm trying to use Wildhorse's guide to updating firmware through RUU in hopes that it will solve my problems and it just plain isn't working. I've put the RUU in my external SD as PH98IMG, waited for my battery to charge to 90%, shut off the phone, pulled the battery, then gone into Hboot to flash it but I keep getting "No Image or Wrong Image" and it just goes back to the main Hboot screen every single time. Can anyone explain to me why this is happening even though I'm following everybody's directions exactly? I've been searching through the forums for about 2 hours now and I can't get an answer.
I'm still kind of new to HTC devices and how they work, so if anyone could help me figure this out I'd be very thankful.
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You are on a leaked firmware, the currently available RUUs are all older than that, and you can't go back when you are S-ON. You need to S-OFF then you can RUU back to 3.14.605.12 and then OTA back up to the current 4.5.605.14
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You are on a leaked firmware, the currently available RUUs are all older than that, and you can't go back when you are S-ON. You need to S-OFF then you can RUU back to 3.14.605.12 and then OTA back up to the current 4.5.605.14
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Okay, I was really hoping that wasn't the case. I hate to ask for more help, but I don't really understand how I'm supposed to get S-Off when I need to be on the stock RUU to do it, and I can't get on the stock RUU because I need to be S-Off to do so...
I hope I'm not stuck this way. Technically I'm on all the same software as I was yesterday, but now I'm getting random reboots all the time as well as bootloops that either go on for ten minutes or never end. I was on a build of CM10.1 from may with Amon Ra recovery, then tried to flash the newest TWRP that requires the new firmware (didn't realize I was on older firmware) and it bricked my phone. So I put on an older CWM recovery, tried to backup and it froze in the middle of every backup it tried to make. Put on an old TWRP, backups worked, so I flashed the newest version of CM10.1 (again not knowing I didn't have newest firmware) and that's when the bootlooping/rebooting started. I recovered to the old version of CM10.1 and the issue didn't go away, so now I'm just trying to figure out what I can do to get my phone in a usable state again.
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Okay, I was really hoping that wasn't the case. I hate to ask for more help, but I don't really understand how I'm supposed to get S-Off when I need to be on the stock RUU to do it, and I can't get on the stock RUU because I need to be S-Off to do so...
I hope I'm not stuck this way. Technically I'm on all the same software as I was yesterday, but now I'm getting random reboots all the time as well as bootloops that either go on for ten minutes or never end. I was on a build of CM10.1 from may with Amon Ra recovery, then tried to flash the newest TWRP that requires the new firmware (didn't realize I was on older firmware) and it bricked my phone. So I put on an older CWM recovery, tried to backup and it froze in the middle of every backup it tried to make. Put on an old TWRP, backups worked, so I flashed the newest version of CM10.1 (again not knowing I didn't have newest firmware) and that's when the bootlooping/rebooting started. I recovered to the old version of CM10.1 and the issue didn't go away, so now I'm just trying to figure out what I can do to get my phone in a usable state again.
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Hey, wait a sec... :laugh:
My bad, I just double checked, and with that Hboot/radio combination you are on stock ICS firmware already! Just RUU version 3.14.605.12, that should work without issues if done correctly and you should be back to pure ICS and can then allow the OTA to upgrade you in a few steps to 4.5.605.14
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Hey, wait a sec... :laugh:
My bad, I just double checked, and with that Hboot/radio combination you are on stock ICS firmware already! Just RUU version 3.14.605.12, that should work without issues if done correctly and you should be back to pure ICS and can then allow the OTA to upgrade you in a few steps to 4.5.605.14
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Oh, thank god. Hahah. I didn't remember ever flashing any leaked firmware before, so I was kind of confused there. I figured I may have done it somewhere in the unlocking/rooting process and just couldnt remember. Okay, thanks again for the help. RUU's have always confused me with the way they work. I should be stable in no time hopefully.
And now I'm having more issues... I can't use the Rom Updater because somethings wrong with my usb connection. I can plug it in and transfer files and such, but trying to use any ADB commands results in "Device not found" and the Rom Updater says it can't connect to my device either. My HTC Drivers are up to date, so I'm not sure why this is happening. Is there any way I can just get the PH98IMG.zip for 3.14.605.12 instead of having to use the RUU?
Not really sure what you are trying to run, I didn't think there was a 3.14.605.12 executable RUU, but use this page and instructions and grab the file: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
Remember you will need to RELOCK the bootloader if I am not mistaken it is possible to hard brick if you don't!
Then copy to external SD card, name the file PH98IMG.zip (beware of the Windows "double zip" issue), verify MD5 on the SDcard, then reboot into hboot and go. Do it twice!!! Let it boot up and sit for about 10 minutes to calm down, then remove the PH98IMG.zip file from the SD card. Everything should be smooth sailing from there...
You should then be S-ON, completely stock. You will need to unlock again to do anything more
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Not really sure what you are trying to run, I didn't think there was a 3.14.605.12 executable RUU, but use this page and instructions and grab the file: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
Remember you will need to RELOCK the bootloader if I am not mistaken it is possible to hard brick if you don't!
Then copy to external SD card, name the file PH98IMG.zip (beware of the Windows "double zip" issue), verify MD5 on the SDcard, then reboot into hboot and go. Do it twice!!! Let it boot up and sit for about 10 minutes to calm down, then remove the PH98IMG.zip file from the SD card. Everything should be smooth sailing from there...
You should then be S-ON, completely stock. You will need to unlock again to do anything more
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Strange, re-locking the bootloader was all I needed to get the RUU to update in my bootloader. No one else said to do that in any of the instructions, but I did it and immediately it started updating with the PH98IMG that I was originally trying to flash (from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38527788&postcount=745&nocache=1&z=1965375486761331).
I'm back to stock now, but firmware is 4.03.605.2, not 4.03.605.14. Is that going to be an issue or can I go right ahead with re-unlocking the bootloader and flashing recovery/roms?
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Strange, re-locking the bootloader was all I needed to get the RUU to update in my bootloader. No one else said to do that in any of the instructions, but I did it and immediately it started updating with the PH98IMG that I was originally trying to flash (from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38527788&postcount=745&nocache=1&z=1965375486761331).
I'm back to stock now, but firmware is 4.03.605.2, not 4.03.605.14. Is that going to be an issue or can I go right ahead with re-unlocking the bootloader and flashing recovery/roms?
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Well, I have some good news and bad news...
Bad news is you are now on a leaked firmware and will have to S-OFF to go up or down in versions unless a full RUU is released for the current OTA of 4.5.605.14...
Good news is you are the global leak, and you can use the JuopunutBear S-OFF exploit from http://unlimited.io/index.htm just as if you were on the original ICS release. Also, you can S-OFF and use most ROMs and recoveries as you are now on a global mode firmware.
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Well, I have some good news and bad news...
Bad news is you are now on a leaked firmware and will have to S-OFF to go up or down in versions unless a full RUU is released for the current OTA of 4.5.605.14...
Good news is you are the global leak, and you can use the JuopunutBear S-OFF exploit from http://unlimited.io/index.htm just as if you were on the original ICS release. Also, you can S-OFF and use most ROMs and recoveries as you are now on a global mode firmware.
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Lol, all right, I would have tried to get the right firmware on there but my phone got so buggy that it wouldn't even boot into the rom anymore. So I couldn't get it on the SD card and I had to make do with what I had on there. At this point, I'm just glad the phone is usable again and I might leave it stock for a while. Thank you so much for all your help, I couldn't have figured this out without you!
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Lol, all right, I would have tried to get the right firmware on there but my phone got so buggy that it wouldn't even boot into the rom anymore. So I couldn't get it on the SD card and I had to make do with what I had on there. At this point, I'm just glad the phone is usable again and I might leave it stock for a while. Thank you so much for all your help, I couldn't have figured this out without you!
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Cool, glad you got it working.
That firmware is actually pretty decent and rock solid stable, you shouldn't have any more software related issues... Plus you can root/ROM like normal from that version, the radios may be slightler lower than most recommended versions, but they should work fine. If you do decide to go the ROM route again, I would suggest going S-OFF before starting, it will just make it easier in the long run.
Hey, just wanted to ask some questions as a follow-up since this seems to be the most relevant (and active) thread to my issue:
Long story short, got a new (to me) Rezound. It was running CM10, from the forthnightly thread. New SIM card from Verizon and I was getting data, but the no mobile network found error. After reading the threads I could find on the error, went with the suggestion of a wipe and so I did. A few too many beers while reading thru the forums, and I did the wipe a bit too thoroughly. Now I have a no OS found, and instead of thinking I know what I'm doing I'd like to ask to make sure I understand this correctly.
Currently, the phone is S-OFF, with TWRP 2.5.0.0. It's saying I'm not rooted, but then again no OS to be rooted. The dump from my bootloader is as follows:
*** TAMPERED ***
*** LOCKED ***
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.28.0000
RADIO-2.23.10.0123r/2.23.10.0124r
OpenDSP-v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
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After checking this thread and this one here it looks like the following applies:
* I can just run the regular RUU (executable) to load a stock image without having to revert back to S-ON first.
* I will have to re-unlock the bootloader thru htcdev after RUUing
* I'll need to reinstall TWRP
Is this right? Am I missing anything?
JoeKamel said:
Hey, just wanted to ask some questions as a follow-up since this seems to be the most relevant (and active) thread to my issue:
Long story short, got a new (to me) Rezound. It was running CM10, from the forthnightly thread. New SIM card from Verizon and I was getting data, but the no mobile network found error. After reading the threads I could find on the error, went with the suggestion of a wipe and so I did. A few too many beers while reading thru the forums, and I did the wipe a bit too thoroughly. Now I have a no OS found, and instead of thinking I know what I'm doing I'd like to ask to make sure I understand this correctly.
Currently, the phone is S-OFF, with TWRP 2.5.0.0. It's saying I'm not rooted, but then again no OS to be rooted. The dump from my bootloader is as follows:
After checking this thread and this one here it looks like the following applies:
* I can just run the regular RUU (executable) to load a stock image without having to revert back to S-ON first.
* I will have to re-unlock the bootloader thru htcdev after RUUing
* I'll need to reinstall TWRP
Is this right? Am I missing anything?
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You should be able to just boot into twrp and flash a rom
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izzaeroth said:
You should be able to just boot into twrp and flash a rom
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Okay, that's good to know. For now though, if I just wanted to get my phone working, make sure there's not a SIM issue and such I could go back to a stock image without worrying? I just would rather do a lot more reading and make sure I understand what I'm doing before I try to put a rom on and screw things up further.
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Okay, that's good to know. For now though, if I just wanted to get my phone working, make sure there's not a SIM issue and such I could go back to a stock image without worrying? I just would rather do a lot more reading and make sure I understand what I'm doing before I try to put a rom on and screw things up further.
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No doubt its good to be cautious when you are s-off. If you are just wanting plain jane stock then you could just flash a ruu from boot loader.
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No doubt its good to be cautious when you are s-off. If you are just wanting plain jane stock then you could just flash a ruu from boot loader.
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Okay, so if I go with the image here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38527788&postcount=745&nocache=1&z=1965375486761331
Would I still need to relock the bootloader since I'm S-OFF or can I just flash that from TWRP and go from there?
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Okay, so if I go with the image here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38527788&postcount=745&nocache=1&z=1965375486761331
Would I still need to relock the bootloader since I'm S-OFF or can I just flash that from TWRP and go from there?
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Honestly I don't remember if you would have to relock to flash that in boot loader sine you are s-off, but I do know it won't flash from recovery
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Honestly I don't remember if you would have to relock to flash that in boot loader sine you are s-off, but I do know it won't flash from recovery
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Recovery as in HBoot or TWRP? Because I still have TWRP. I can get the windows executable RUU for ICS if need be.
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Recovery as in HBoot or TWRP? Because I still have TWRP. I can get the windows executable RUU for ICS if need be.
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Recovery = twrp
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Honestly I don't remember if you would have to relock to flash that in boot loader sine you are s-off, but I do know it won't flash from recovery
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S-off is S-off... installing a RUU wont change that, it may set you back to 'Locked", but you are S-off so it doesn't matter, you can stay locked&s-off and its no different than unlocked/S-off.
If you are going back to stock and are S-off I would use the Global Mode Leak (4.3.605.2) available on AndroidPolice and flash in Hboot... rename file to PH98IMG.zip and place in root of SD card (how it gets there is a irrelevant) then reboot into Hboot, confirm and wait.
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