Yeah I realize this is probably a noob question, but I'm proud (kinda anyway) to admit I am one.
Before jumping head first into flashing a different ROM (currently rooted w/ CWM & ViperXL) I want to make sure I don't end up with a paperweight or at least hours of unexpected work. My reason is just because I want to check out what other Roms have to offer. So its more than possible I may end up back on Viper at some point. Having read some semi-related threads it sounds like this is as simple backing up (nandroid, apps, system data) then flashing from recovery followed with a restore of apps and sys data.
Is there anything I'm missing? Do you need to do a cache and Dalvik wipe? Do I need to load a new boot.img, kernel or anything else? Am I thinking too much and making it seem harder than it really is?
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It's pretty simple, just back everything up, wipe system, data, and the cache + dalvik-cache. Then install the ROM, and flash the kernel. Then, you can restore data if you want.
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Just to be clear in CWM its the following wipes ONLY!
Main screen
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
Advanced menu >
- wipe dalvik cache
remember (and please someone correct me if I'm wrong) flash the kernel first then jump to recovery.
Oh and ALWAYS have a rom.zip on your phone even if you dont require it, that way you could always reflash your way out of trouble should you forget to put that new rom on to try
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Hey guys, quick question. I am currently running CM7 on my V but it is to unstable for me, too many FC's and reboots. I would like to flash That Ain't Sense ROM, found here:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-all-things-root/312747-rom-theme-wait-aint-sense-4-6-2011-a.html
Under the directions, it says:
how to flash:
put gapps and rom on sdcard
wipe the hell out of your phone
flash both and reboot
enjoy
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When it says, wipe the hell out of the phone, what specifically do I have to wipe, and at what time during the process? Since I am moving to an entirely new ROM, what do I need to wipe?
P.S. I am running thunderc recovery.
Data, cache, system, dalvik cache and something else i can't remember. If am i not wrong, ROMManager doesn't work on the V, so you can't switch back and forth freely, unless there is another method.
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Data, cache, system, dalvik cache and something else i can't remember. If am i not wrong, ROMManager doesn't work on the V, so you can't switch back and forth freely, unless there is another method.
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Okay do I wipe all of that before flashing or after or what? Its been a while since my last flash.
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You wanna wipe before flashing a new ROM. I wipe data/cache, then Dalvik cache then flash ROM, then gapps file
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You wanna wipe before flashing a new ROM. I wipe data/cache, then Dalvik cache then flash ROM, then gapps file
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Is that all I have to wipe? I made a nandroid backup but I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.
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That's all I wipe. Wiping everything won't hurt though. Just don't do a factory reset through the settings with the phone booted up. Do it through the recovery.
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I have a quick question. I'm in Joelz 2.3.3 at the moment but I've been wanting to try a 2.3.4 rom. So i've been wondering, when flashing to one. What all do I have to update and how? I believe change the name to PGsomethin and let it update through hboot? Then do I delete it or keep it on the card? And when flashing back to an 2.3.3 Rom will everything be okay?
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Rom's come in a zip format. Boot into recovery (use the 4 in 1 or an app such as quick boot) once in recovery wipe cache and davlik cache at a minimum. You may need to do a full wipe of data, cache and davlik. Or you can use a tool like superwipe which reformats boot, system, cache, and data partitions. Usually a wipe of cache and davlik works as long as the ROMS have a similar base. Once that is done select flash zip from sd card, then select the zip of the rom you want. Then flash that sucker. when it is done it will tell you, then go back a couple menus and reboot. Presto you're done. The first boot after a davlik and cache wipe may take a while so be patient.
Once you are done you can delete the zip from the sd card.
If you are going from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 you may want to flash the radios from 2.3.4. the ROM thread should have this info if required or recommended.
Going back to 2.3.3 is just as easy just put the 2.3.3 ROM on the card and flash that in the same manner.
Word of advice is to always make a nandroid backup, its under backup then usually choosing the boot, data, and system partitions will suffice. This way if you do something that totally borks the phone you can volume down and power to get to recovery then restore the nandroid and you are right back where you started no harm no foul.
Good luck. Also if you check the wiki's most of this info is in there if you need more detailed instructions.
Thanks
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Hello guys,
My question is what the usefull solution for backup and restore the rom? CWM backup / restore seems not really working well. Xda and custom rom's dev always remind to make a backup, but when u face a problem after flashing rom, you cannot access CWM if you got bootloop, then how to restore? And if you dont like the custom rom that you just flashed for some reason, you might want to restore back to your 'fav' rom.. but unfortunately it's not work as you thought. Sometimes restore failed. Im looking the solution for this..
-restore / backup anywhere without using pc.
-not reflash the rom, this will need to customize it again.. Hassle.
-any android app or android system ability to handle this. If CWM can handle this, then tell me how to restore when u got bootloop and cannot access the recovery mod.
-if there's any other app or method, please suggest them to me.
Any help or idea will be appreciated. Thanks.
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When ever Ive made a backup Ive always booted to recovery,"backup and restore" and then "backup".That gives me a full Nandroid backup.As far as the bootloop goes Ive never had a problem to boot to recovery with the 3 button combo.If the 3 button combo works,and its never failed for me then select "backup and restore","restore".Ive also read that reflashing your kernel can solve the problem.I know a simple factory reset can,but not always.
nandroid backup is the best
You can always restore the rom when you can access the recovery mod. If you are a flasholic, you cant escape from bootloop and no recovery mod. My odin binary counter now up to 539.. Nandroid backup sometimes got problem.. Let say i made a backup a checkrom, the i flashed miui, suddenly miui got problem, and i get into recoverymod to restore back my checkrom.. When u done restoring, you will be in checkrom but this time its got many problems. Flashing compatible kernel will not solve the problem. The only solution fot me is to reflash it again.
Im not looking for this way, reflash the rom is hassle, sometimes u got bootloop and cant access recovery, then u need to get back home to use computer with odin to flash only kernel.
What else backup method other than nandroid backup.
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When ever Ive made a backup Ive always booted to recovery,"backup and restore" and then "backup".That gives me a full Nandroid backup.As far as the bootloop goes Ive never had a problem to boot to recovery with the 3 button combo.If the 3 button combo works,and its never failed for me then select "backup and restore","restore".Ive also read that reflashing your kernel can solve the problem.I know a simple factory reset can,but not always.
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How if 3button combo no longer work as it always? When theres no recovery mod for you, what will you do then?
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How if 3button combo no longer work as it always? When theres no recovery mod for you, what will you do then?
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Normally when I flash a ROM over top of another and I know,from other threads,that they are not compatable in terms of insalation and basic use(FCs)then I always do a full wipe (format system/data/cache,battery stats and fact. reset) prior to instalation.With Titanium it only takes a few minutes to reinstall my apps and during instalation there is no conflicting data between the old and new ROM which would cause a major failer to occur.Thats why if something happens the 3 button combo always works cos nothing major has happened.A factory reset and Im done,althought very rare and the nandroid backup is still in the SD if needed.The problem is when there is to many ROMs cluttering the devices system.Ive read that flashing over top of CM7,Lightning and Miui can sometimes be problamatic.
cooza said:
Normally when I flash a ROM over top of another and I know,from other threads,that they are not compatable in terms of insalation and basic use(FCs)then I always do a full wipe (format system/data/cache,battery stats and fact. reset) prior to instalation.With Titanium it only takes a few minutes to reinstall my apps and during instalation there is no conflicting data between the old and new ROM which would cause a major failer to occur.Thats why if something happens the 3 button combo always works cos nothing major has happened.A factory reset and Im done,althought very rare and the nandroid backup is still in the SD if needed.The problem is when there is to many ROMs cluttering the devices system.Ive read that flashing over top of CM7,Lightning and Miui can sometimes be problamatic.
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Ahaaa! Your description attract me, i think you're right, base on the way you explained about full wipe does make sense to me. The real interpretation of 'full wipe' is including formatting the system?
Maybe I'm doing it wrong here, flashing another rom on top of another. What usually i did is 'full wipe'... This is my step :
1 - clear data/factory reset
2 - clear cache
3 - advance > clear dalvik cache
4 - flash new rom
This is what i did, i didn't format anything as you mentioned above. Is your full wipe method lead to 'fresh install'? Well buddy, could you please note down your full wipe method step by step including format the system? Which step should i do 1st and what step next? Could you?
Thanks, highly appreciated.
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Cool.The thing is not all ROMs are compatablie and therefore can cause problems between each other.Your phone holds data from the previous ROM and also your battery collects info and data from each ROM.All this data and info if not cleaned up (and if from various non-compatablie ROMs) will most likely always result in problems.A full wipe,that I will write below is like installing your ROM on a completely clean devive.First of all a nandroid and titanium backup which i explained ealier,I think?
1.Pass the new ROM to internal-SD
2.boot to recovery and wipe cache partition,dalvik cache,battery stats(go back)
3.select "mounts and storage"
4.format cache,system and data (go back)
5.now wipe data/factory reset and your phone is now completely clean
6.now just install your ROM from the internal-SD as normal and I also do another factory reset to avoid possible bootloops and reboot device but if you get one pull the battery or use the 3 button combo to do one.
this full wipe will clean up all system data but will not touch your SD card so your titanium and nandroid backups will not be touched if you should choose to use them.Once I reinstall all my apps again with titanium its a good idea to reboot to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then reboot phone.This will help avoid market connetion problems.
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Cool.The thing is not all ROMs are compatablie and therefore can cause problems between each other.Your phone holds data from the previous ROM and also your battery collects info and data from each ROM.All this data and info if not cleaned up (and if from various non-compatablie ROMs) will most likely always result in problems.A full wipe,that I will write below is like installing your ROM on a completely clean devive.First of all a nandroid and titanium backup which i explained ealier,I think?
1.Pass the new ROM to internal-SD
2.boot to recovery and wipe cache partition,dalvik cache,battery stats(go back)
3.select "mounts and storage"
4.format cache,system and data (go back)
5.now wipe data/factory reset and your phone is now completely clean
6.now just install your ROM from the internal-SD as normal and I also do another factory reset to avoid possible bootloops and reboot device but if you get one pull the battery or use the 3 button combo to do one.
this full wipe will clean up all system data but will not touch your SD card so your titanium and nandroid backups will not be touched if you should choose to use them.Once I reinstall all my apps again with titanium its a good idea to reboot to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then reboot phone.This will help avoid market connetion problems.
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Omg! I thought you not gonna reply me anymore. Dude, i even copy and paste the whole texts in my note app as my reference on the future. I highly appreciated for your efforts into this. Thanks for those details.
Check your PM.
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Wasnt going to leave out in the cold mate,was just a bit busy.Thanks for the PM.Glad I could help
Hi - first time trying to root. I successfully rooted, installed Entropy's Kernel, and I thought successfully installed TurkbeyRom (I don't think this is a question specific to this rom, so I"m posting here...).
After booting back up, I get this message: " The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly". This takes out my wireless signal, and keeps popping up with the error even when clear that screen out.
I realized that I didn't do any sort of data wipe before installing this rom...could that be the issue? I was under the impression that when installing them, it asked if you would like to wipe data, and it didn't.
My question is - if I wipe the data now, how much will I lose? Obviously I don't care about apps/contacts/etc..I'm wondering how far it'll set me back in the rooting process. Meaning if I wipe, will it completely wipe out my kernel...etc.
Thanks!
Boot into cwm and wipe data factory reset...then see if it fixes the issue. It wont go backwards in the root process
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Please read before posting. Check the FAQ question [21].
- ROM install doesn't ask you to wipe, you have to do it yourself. (FAQ [21] has steps how to do it in CWM. For that, it is assumed that you followed this guide all the way through.
- any type of wipe will NOT remove your kernel. Wiping will remove stuff like your apps/contacts/etc
Wipe data/factory reset will remove any user installed applications and personal settings that have been set since the flash. It will not make any changes to the kernel or system partition, so the rom will be just like if you wiped first and then flashed the rom. That should solve any issues, but if there are still problems after the wipe, then try flashing the rom again.
Most roms here don't do an automatic wipe, afaik. You must do the wipe first, usually from ClockworkMod Recovery. It is always recommended to wipe when changing from one rom to another, from stock to any rom, etc. You can usually get by without a wipe when doing a minor upgrade of the same rom, assuming there is not change of base within the rom.
Thanks guys. It works perfectly now after wiping.
Sorry about not seeing that in the FAQs. I did look there, but I must have had a different "question" in mind than "[21] Install Custom ROM from CWM" and glanced past that one.
Just curious about whether I am wiping and flashing correctly.
I currently have TWRP 2.2.2.0 installed.
I am presently on the Viper sense based rom for the HOX+. I assume I must be wiping and flashing correctly as the rom works!!
Wipe cache, wipe davlik cache, factory reset and system? Then flash rom?
Doing this, does it completely remove the previous rom, audio drivers etc so that I have a clean slate so to speak for flashing the new rom?
That's what I'm after, wiping the previous rom completely, drivers, everything so that I can flash an aosp based rom.
Thanks.
First off, I would advice you to flash the latest version of TWRP before doing anything. Now, having said that, yeah, essentially press all buttons in the wipe Menu (I frankly don't know if the "Format" button would be overkill). However, be aware that in doing so, you're going to wipe all the data in the partition, including any zip files you may want to flash afterwards. If you end up doing this, you're going to need to sideload the rom into your phone in order for you to be able to install it.
You only lose stuff in data by wiping data partition
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If he is wanting to use the Viper rom it is best to flash the version that is on the Viper thread. This has some minor changes in it to allow the install of OTA's and zip files from the hub.
If he uses the latest version it may cause issues trying to install OTA's.
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You only lose stuff in data by wiping data partition
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Exactly, so long as he doesn't touch the data partition he should loose nothing. I did recommend the whole "Nuke it" approach because of the whole "Clean Slate" thing the OP wanted though...
Nuke it? Wipe everything, including data partition then sideload a rom?
Thanks.
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Nuke it? Wipe everything, including data partition then sideload a rom?
Thanks.
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Yeah, although it's not necessary most of the times, at least that's what I personally do when I want a 100% clean install (Short of re-locking the bootloader and running a RUU of course).
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Nuke it? Wipe everything, including data partition then sideload a rom?
Thanks.
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While installing Viper you can choose to wipe the phone for a clean installation. So basically it's not necessary to do anything than install recovery for Viper and then install Viper ROM and choose the correct option in AROMA installer...