Hello,
I'm fed up with my Nokia N-8. Works bad, is slow, freezes, has some hidden files somewhere taking all the phone memory, and generally pisses me off.
So now I'm hesitating between the Galaxy S4 and the Lumia.
I'm someone who needs :
- reliable phone in most situations. It would be unnaceptable to have no phone due to proffessional duties.
- A Citrix app (good), thethering on an Android tablet (even better) or both (awesomeness).
- Reasonable amounts of games for train strikes.
- Reasonable pictures taken (I heard the Lumia is amazing on this side)
- NO BLOODY NOKIA OVI SUITE. NO. NO. NO.
- A SIMPLE software to synch the phone music/pics/videos, and save the phone contacts. I'll be running windows 8 pro from tomorrow evening onwards.
- A VLC or equivalent application.
- A Dropbox App
- Microsoft Office documents read and write. Can you store Excel spreadsheets on this Skydrive thingy and read/modify it on the phone whenever you want ?
- And lastly a complete email client. I guess there's an Outlook on theese things, but could you please confirm ?
I know the GS4 will be better in terms of pure hardware, but I'm generally not a big Google fan, and I would like to avoid having work stuff on Google's Android. I guess if I take the Lumia I'll switch the Asus Transformer for a Surface 2 when it comes out. This said I was extremely pissed off with my whole Nokia N-8 experience, and try to be sure I'm not making the same mistake again...
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards,
A prospective
Wouldn't know about Citrix, Android tethering or VLC, but as to the rest, the answer is yes. I got my 920 as soon as AT&T posted them, and I love it.
No problem tethering an android tablet...or any tablet for that matter. Not sure on VLC
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- reliable phone in most situations. It would be unnaceptable to have no phone due to proffessional duties.
I'm using Windows Phone for years since in my opinion is the most stable and user friendly phone experience... In my smartphone telephony is still the most important thing, thats a reason why i left Android, it's not acceptable for my that my phone reboots and hangs on the pin screen which android did a lot
- A Citrix app (good), thethering on an Android tablet (even better) or both (awesomeness).
Wifi-Tethering is build in in Windows phone, don't know about a citrix app
- Reasonable amounts of games for train strikes.
There are enough games on Windows phone, sure there are more on iOS and Android, but now with native coding and xbox live every day more games are coming
- Reasonable pictures taken (I heard the Lumia is amazing on this side)
Windows Phone is the best an fastest picture taking experience you can get on a smartphone, every phone has a dedicated camera button which starts the camera super fast... and you can view your last shot in milliseconds.. which is taking ages on android... The quality of the pictures depends on your smartphone... if you want good pictures take Nokia or Samsung... but do not take a HTC for pictures ^^
- NO BLOODY NOKIA OVI SUITE. NO. NO. NO.
No ovi suite
- A SIMPLE software to synch the phone music/pics/videos, and save the phone contacts. I'll be running windows 8 pro from tomorrow evening onwards.
It's all done directly from the phone to your live account no need for a PC for pictures, calender and phone contacts...
If you want music or videos, just copy them from the explorer to your phone
- A VLC or equivalent application.
VLC is coming, right now you have xbox video... i play everything i throw at it
- A Dropbox App
I use Skydrive so i don't know abaout Dropbox
- Microsoft Office documents read and write. Can you store Excel spreadsheets on this Skydrive thingy and read/modify it on the phone whenever you want ?
Yes, Yes, Yes
- And lastly a complete email client. I guess there's an Outlook on theese things, but could you please confirm ?
Email is solid and built in, and you can even "zoom in" into your HTML mails unlike on android
Ikkari said:
- reliable phone in most situations. It would be unnaceptable to have no phone due to proffessional duties.
I'm using Windows Phone for years since in my opinion is the most stable and user friendly phone experience... In my smartphone telephony is still the most important thing, thats a reason why i left Android, it's not acceptable for my that my phone reboots and hangs on the pin screen which android did a lot
- A Citrix app (good), thethering on an Android tablet (even better) or both (awesomeness).
Wifi-Tethering is build in in Windows phone, don't know about a citrix app
- Reasonable amounts of games for train strikes.
There are enough games on Windows phone, sure there are more on iOS and Android, but now with native coding and xbox live every day more games are coming
- Reasonable pictures taken (I heard the Lumia is amazing on this side)
Windows Phone is the best an fastest picture taking experience you can get on a smartphone, every phone has a dedicated camera button which starts the camera super fast... and you can view your last shot in milliseconds.. which is taking ages on android... The quality of the pictures depends on your smartphone... if you want good pictures take Nokia or Samsung... but do not take a HTC for pictures ^^
- NO BLOODY NOKIA OVI SUITE. NO. NO. NO.
No ovi suite
- A SIMPLE software to synch the phone music/pics/videos, and save the phone contacts. I'll be running windows 8 pro from tomorrow evening onwards.
It's all done directly from the phone to your live account no need for a PC for pictures, calender and phone contacts...
If you want music or videos, just copy them from the explorer to your phone
- A VLC or equivalent application.
VLC is coming, right now you have xbox video... i play everything i throw at it
- A Dropbox App
I use Skydrive so i don't know abaout Dropbox
- Microsoft Office documents read and write. Can you store Excel spreadsheets on this Skydrive thingy and read/modify it on the phone whenever you want ?
Yes, Yes, Yes
- And lastly a complete email client. I guess there's an Outlook on theese things, but could you please confirm ?
Email is solid and built in, and you can even "zoom in" into your HTML mails unlike on android
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Xbox video will not play MKV files. Or at least the encodes that much of the anime fansubs are done in.
Thank you for all your answers.
I will wait a little and see if I get along fine wih windows 8, and then I guess I'll switch to the 920.
Thanks for your time.
Kind regards,
T
I'm running outlook synced with work server. it runs well and updated all my contacts and appointments well. i can also update appointments and sync using my phone. only downside so far is pdf experience. Office files can be saved on phone and skydrive so you can work offline. I like also nokia map as it is offline as many times i am in china and don't have cell data only wifi. New update for skype allows notifications as well which was finally released. I been happy with phone only couple of hangs since november. i also dropped it from good height and only got couple minor dings on frame of phone.
Oh well.
I did my usual thing. Sigh. Say "f*** it". Ordered it.
I hope I'll like it
Solarenemy68 said:
Xbox video will not play MKV files. Or at least the encodes that much of the anime fansubs are done in.
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Unsupported files are recoded on the fly while you copy them...
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Thrawninioub said:
Oh well.
I did my usual thing. Sigh. Say "f*** it". Ordered it.
I hope I'll like it
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I was quite happy with windows mobile (5 through 6.5) until I switch to HTC Desire (Android) 3-4 months back. Desire is a great machine, trust me. However since I'm a heavy user of Outlook, hotmail, messenger, Office etc. and use Windows 7 based laptop, I think I should go back to Windows plateform on my phone as well. Haven't got a chance yet to see Mozart in action so wonder if any body who has used it can give answers to some instant queries:
1- I'm with Orange, contract is due upgrade; should I get Mozart from Orange or wait until it's availalbe unbranded/unlocked form Phone4U or from Carphonewarehouse?
2- If getting from Orange is there any benefit getting Orange SatNav or Mozart can support Google maps or Bing maps with directions? (on Desire Google maps with navigation is free)
3- Hotmail connector works on Mozart?
4- Live messenger available on Mozart?
5- Mozart and Outlook sync 100% as in previous WinMo's? (i.e. email, contacts, notes, tasks)
Of any other information will be helpful. cheers...
ZeeShh said:
I was quite happy with windows mobile (5 through 6.5) until I switch to HTC Desire (Android) 3-4 months back. Desire is a great machine, trust me. However since I'm a heavy user of Outlook, hotmail, messenger, Office etc. and use Windows 7 based laptop, I think I should go back to Windows plateform on my phone as well. Haven't got a chance yet to see Mozart in action so wonder if any body who has used it can give answers to some instant queries:
1- I'm with Orange, contract is due upgrade; should I get Mozart from Orange or wait until it's availalbe unbranded/unlocked form Phone4U or from Carphonewarehouse?
2- If getting from Orange is there any benefit getting Orange SatNav or Mozart can support Google maps or Bing maps with directions? (on Desire Google maps with navigation is free)
3- Hotmail connector works on Mozart?
4- Live messenger available on Mozart?
5- Mozart and Outlook sync 100% as in previous WinMo's? (i.e. email, contacts, notes, tasks)
Of any other information will be helpful. cheers...
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everything you said is all yes but rumors are saying in a january update copy and paste and turn by turn voice naviation ill be coming
also i have a desire and am trading it in for a moozart
that's quite encouraging and yes I think I'll move back to WinMo.
Just called Orange upgrade team and apart from my usual call plan they are charging me £149.99/- one off, unless I choose talk paln of £40+. hmm, will do some more research in the eve.
I have contacted Orange (go through customer services rather than upgrades) and they are offering great deals i.e free phone on talk plans under £35. They are out of stock at the moment but I think a little bit of pestering and not accepting their first offers you may get a good deal
Despite Orange offering me deals, I'm still torn between the Mozart and the Desire HD. Any thoughts greatly appreciated!
ZeeShh said:
1- I'm with Orange, contract is due upgrade; should I get Mozart from Orange or wait until it's availalbe unbranded/unlocked form Phone4U or from Carphonewarehouse?
2- If getting from Orange is there any benefit getting Orange SatNav or Mozart can support Google maps or Bing maps with directions? (on Desire Google maps with navigation is free)
3- Hotmail connector works on Mozart?
4- Live messenger available on Mozart?
5- Mozart and Outlook sync 100% as in previous WinMo's? (i.e. email, contacts, notes, tasks)
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1. I'm very happy with the Orange branded one. Very little branding is present and it's easy to remove the Orange apps if you don't want/need them (although the Orange Wednesday app is awesome).
2. Bing maps is included, but not really tried it much to be honest. No Google maps as of yet.
3. Hotmail works nativly within WP7, so you just add you LIVE accont onto the device and everything is setup automatically.
4. There is NOT an official Live Messenger client that I've seen on WP7 yet, but I would be very surprised if one doesn't appear soon.
5. There is NO syncing with Outlook in WP7 via ActiveSync as in previous versions of Windows Mobile. You need to sync your Outlook with an online service like LIVE, Google or Exchange to get it on your phone.
Hmm, syncing now is different. but would it be as good and smooth as it used to be? Is this what Zune software is suppose to do. it'll be bit of exciting experience thought.
I believe Skype can be installed as well.
cheers....
ZeeShh said:
Hmm, syncing now is different. but would it be as good and smooth as it used to be? Is this what Zune software is suppose to do. it'll be bit of exciting experience thought.
I believe Skype can be installed as well.
cheers....
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Skype is not available on WP7, and Skype have publicly stated they are waiting to see how much the OS takes off before starting development on an app.
Zune only syncs music, video and photos, it does not sync contacts, calendars, and other stuff.
ZeeShh said:
that's quite encouraging and yes I think I'll move back to WinMo.
Just called Orange upgrade team and apart from my usual call plan they are charging me £149.99/- one off, unless I choose talk paln of £40+. hmm, will do some more research in the eve.
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I have taken out a 18 month contract with orange with the mozat, its 30 queens heads a month with the hand set for free. they sold me orange maps but have compansated me as i called them back as i found out wp7 does not support them at the moment( been told they are hoping for them to be live late november).
Here's my opinion on the Mozart.
Got it a few days ago and i'm quite split, i've previously supported HTC and WM so naturally WP7 sounded great and the Mozart seems the best handset.
Overall the winning feature has to be the sound quality, with a 3.5mm jack for headphones and SRS enhancement available in an app, the sound quality is amazing. One bad point is teh shoddy handsfree kit provided with it, seems to be quite low quality for listening to music, does calls just fine though.
The camera is a high point, 8MP - more than enough quality there for my uses, unfortunately it comes with a flash, that doesn't sound like a bad feature but heres why - without the flash images are blurry, dark and as bad as they were on previous HTC devices, with the flash it takes about 5 seconds to actually take the picture, so forget about any kinda of quick snaps, the flash is also far too powerful, making shots look too dark without and too bright with, i'm sure an update will bring a little bit of control to the flash eventually though.
HD Video, great idea, great quality... that is if your target isn't moving, the autofocus is slow, exposure adjustment is the same, making the whole thing look cheap, uploading movies is also impossible without syncing to zune, no facebook upload like in WM6, again something that will be sorted in time hopefully.
Onto the programs. Unlike the camera tools, everything else is light and snappy, the Mozart opens programs quickly and effortlessly, making use of the lack of multitasking and heavy UI of WM6, WP7 is a completely differente experience. Live tiles are so so, some tiles are large and some are small with no way to switch between them, some are blank and give no information wheras teh built in ones are great. I think given time, live tiles will become a lot more custom built.
Internet is provided with good old IE, no opera yet, but given time i'm sure tjhat will change. The lack of flash is a bit annoying, needing a seperate plugin for youtube and no way to streaming any other kinda of flash video. I know windows believe HTML 5 is the future but it would be worth considering teh present, flash is a necessity pulled from under my feet. Altogether teh broswer is amazingly smooth, custom built for WP7 offereing many features like capturing a page for the live tiles. No copy and paste does cause issues but the January update will take care of this.
The marketplace is well equipped, more so than I thought it would be, with about 20 different apps for a flashlight (unfortunately those that use the camera flash do not work on the mozart for some reason), about 10 different apps to fake a phone call should you ever want it, all these range from free to about £2, the more expensive apps are mainly games, these run smoothly on the Mozart and give a nice touch to the new OS.
The major downsides to teh Mozart are the following:
Lack of ringtones, a few default boring chimes that you'd expect your dad to use, but no way to use mp3s, its just painful for me.
Battery life varies, I've been wuite impressed at times with it lasting me about 2days with light use, but everyday tasks like phone calls and wifi takes its toll.
Outlook doesn't combine emails or thread them, this may seem like somethign you don't need but WM6 had it, why doesn't WP7?
The marketplace is lacking many programs I would like such as a GPS program, bing maps is a poor substitute for Googlemaps, with very few inviting features, though i'm sure this will change.
Overall I'm impressed with the device, almost everything is snappy, the screen is great, devices are nice looking, but unfortunately with a new OS with no backward compatibility, it will take a while for things to pick up, whether the limited APIs and pricey edevelopers licence with hinder the growth of WP7 only time will tell.
My opinion of the Mozart is that although the camera puts it above the other, its software just brings it back down to the same level, theres almost no difference in the devices, maybe the Omnia 7 might push ahead with the super AMOLED screen, but as far as i'm concerned, and extra 3 megapixels on the camera makes no difference given the software.
I've been mainly distracted due to me having to switch back to Orange to get this phone. I live in North East England, and after orange and T mobile merged signals, I found t-mobile to have a constant 3G signal, cracking out speeds up to 2 meg (which is odd since only the 2G signals were merged). After having super fast mobile internet for the past few years I've moved to orange which seems to struggle to give me any form of mobile internet, I measured a mighty 13kb/s next to a 1800kb/s on my t-mobile, lets hope it improves or i won't be keeping the Mozart, after all a PDA is pretty useless without internet...
Hi All,
Thanks for you feedbacks, I'm quite convinced that I should move from Desire to Mozart. I'm really enjoying Desire as well but due to home / work on windows plateforms I think I should remain on windows plateform for my mobile as well, as I always used to be since 2006.
Orange UK is out of stock on Mozart at the moment but hoping to get it within November. cheers...
ZeeShh said:
1- I'm with Orange, contract is due upgrade; should I get Mozart from Orange or wait until it's availalbe unbranded/unlocked form Phone4U or from Carphonewarehouse?
2- If getting from Orange is there any benefit getting Orange SatNav or Mozart can support Google maps or Bing maps with directions? (on Desire Google maps with navigation is free)
3- Hotmail connector works on Mozart?
4- Live messenger available on Mozart?
5- Mozart and Outlook sync 100% as in previous WinMo's? (i.e. email, contacts, notes, tasks)
Of any other information will be helpful. cheers...
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For what it's worth I'm sending my Mozart back as much preferred my Desire so will get a Desire HD.
But to answer your questions
1) Your call... cheaper on Orange and then pay £20 to unlock it
2) Orange Sat Nav doesn't work yet. Bing does support directions but is not a Sat Nav replacement.
3) Yes
4) Not that I've seen but sure it would be soon
5) Yes but as far as I could tell only email, contacts and calendar. Not tasks or notes. The outlook syncing (at least for me via exchange) has been flawless and enables you to sync multiple accounts.
Hope that helps.
I hope no-one minds but I got my Mozart yesterday and the only link that seems to talk about what is good and bad about it (here) hasn't had a new entry since November.
I also reckon that the Microsoft Developers know that xda-developers is the only place to go for sensible smartphone discussions and hopefully they will read this and make some changes.
I wasn't convinced that the Mozart would be better than my HD2 but actually....
Good:
Great Screen Resolution
Fast
Internet Explorer is better than I expected and the Pinch to Zoom is great
I like the start screen and the way the 3G signal gets out of the way
Bad:
No Comm Manager - switching on WiFi, Bluetooth, Flight Mode is a real pain
No Internet Sharing - AARRRRGGGHH!
Can't find my WiFi with hidden ESSID - GGGRRRRR!
No MyPhone Sync
I'm not sure I'm keen on the lock-down on apps - it's probably the only thing that will force me to Open Source Android.
I used gyrator2 to switch the screen off when I turned the HD2 vertically down - it saved on battery.
Thank goodness MS don't seem to have made WP7 into a steppingstone to a proper OS (like vista was to Win7!). The way I'm using it, it's the almost finished.
I'm hoping that someone will come up with a Comm Manager App. But I don't know about the other stuff.
Has anyone else got anything to add? What would make WP7 work better for you?
PS Please move this if it's duplicated elsewhere.
Thanks for the heads-up, just brought a Mozart today expecting delivery on Tuesday, I've come from the Android phones Galaxy S & X10 Mini, will be interesting to see how this shapes up against them.
anoyances
i also bought one and generally i think they realy solved the job doing a MS based phone that works. (i moved from a diamond2 with os6.5)
but what realy makes me angry is that i read in the commcersials and specs that i could use mp3 for ringtones (wich phones cant today anyway). but even if being a trivial requerent i would not go with out it.
now i realize that i can use mp3 - BUT ONLY IF I BUY IT FROM ZUNE WTF!!!!!
are they trying out the apple business plan?
im aware that i can "jail break" (where did i last hear about this.. og iPhone/apple) .. but i risk brick´ing my phone and thats a bummer.
still realy nice phone.
a file handler would be nice though and some grouping functionality. the start screeen cannot collect all your messaging and mail in a single icon for access. you have to add evry single one of them in the shortcut list for ease of access.. thats anoying if you have 4 mail and text messaging like me.. grouping would rock..
another thing is "People" its a looker if you want to see contratct and facebook updates, byt anoying for phone contact list
and whats it with the contact list? you cannot sync with outlook only exchange serveres. otherwise you have to expose your full contact list on windows live or facebook to get it synced to your phone.
now i believe i should be paid for using my phone then.. they get to know me and all of my friends including phone info, full name, job detaisl address etc etc. thats something that valueable.. and i dont get to choose if i want to take part.. i want money Zune/HTC and Microsoft!
im semi pleased .. nice phone but realy creapy business methods
A week later....an update
I can see what you're saying js0937.
I'm not really into changing the ringtone but I did notice that you couldn't do it. I can't believe that it has to come from Zune - it does make Android seem very attractive!
I've coped with the Outlook / Live syncing by having a separate account for my contacts but it is a bit long-winded.
I'm waiting for the update (due in Jan 2011 but when??? we're already two-thirds through!) to see whether these problems get solved.
Given that I worked with winphone 6.5 for so long, winphone7 is still much, much better but I still want Internet Sharing and a Comm Manager
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I'm waiting for the update (due in Jan 2011 but when???
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Update whill be soon (7 feb.?)
h..p://microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
Hoping the update sorts the voice dialing out as its rubbish compaired to 6.5. This is a big step back. Be nice to get more info of what the update will bring. Roll on the 7th, fingers crossed.
My 2 cents
Ye, here you have the list:
MUSTS (otherwise I will NOT use the phone for my business):
- Network sharing
- People view by company OR search by company
- copy paste OR use selected text as signature
- outlook categories (seriously!) sort/show calendar, ppl, by category
- tasks list
WANTS (It would be nice to have it):
- activesync with desktop (mailny notes, and such)
- messaging hub (it is enough to group it together in one tile displaying summary of all unread messages, no matter from where they come. It can link to selection screen, where I can pick the mail/messaging account).
- connect tasks with SharePoint lists
- see Active Directory coleagues callendars (or at least simple meeting assistant that shows free/busy for attendees)
- Remote Desktop Connection (it is a pity that having that screen I cannot connect to my virtual desktop if needed)
I am business guy, and always used WinMo as a nice tool. Now... I have waited so long for WP7 and I cant use it for work. I gave it to my Woman, and now I am considering other OSes...
Microsoft, you are pissing on your most loyal customer segment!
I am due for an upgrade later this month. I am an Android user of phones & tablets for more than 3 years so i am very used to the OS with its massive customisations, etc. But i have been noticing in the background that Windows Phone 8 is slowly gaining fans and i would like to know why. I'd like to convince myself. In particular i'm interested with the Lumia 920 and the newer 925/928 model:
1. Does the Lumia have a Bluetooth feature that can connect to any Bluetooth wireless speakers? And can one send files via bluetooth to any bluetooth-enabled Android phone?
2. Does the Lumia have a quick toggle to settings to instantly turn on or off settings such as wifi, Bluetooth, brightness, etc. (much like the notification drop down bar of Android)
3. Is there a customisable equaliser settings to the new Lumias? Surround sound? Bass? Preset EQ settings?
4. Can I set a Playlist, edit a Playlist name and set songs to a Playlist on-the-fly? If no then what app can do that?
5. Can I drag n drop files from my Mac to a Lumia with a need or no need of another software?
6. Can I still access my Google apps & services such as YouTube, Gmail, Maps, Currents, Chrome, etc.?
7. Is there a pinch to zoom feature in zooming objects for taking photos? Is there an option to easily share them via Email, Bluetooth, Twitter, Instagram, Dropbox, etc.? A way to set photos as a phones's lockscreen wallpaper? A way to edit photos and share them? if so which app do i need?
8. Any "swype to type" typing feature? (For faster typing)
9. Any good alternatives music player, video player for the Lumia?
10. Notification Centre - is it true that one can view a notification (from email, Twiiter, Facebook, etc.) on the lock screen? And how do i "access" or see my notification? Do i swype or just click it?
11. Is there a unified & a fully customomisable news app similar to Google Currents?
12. Sideloading apps - is this possible with WP8? Is there an alternative app store other than WP8's?
Android has tons of alternative/3rd-party app stores where one can look, download & install .apk files on almost any device available out there. Is this also possible with WP8?
13. Would the copy & paste capability be possible in almost anywhere ON THE device itself? How do i copy & paste btw?
14. A way to set Google as a default search option?
15. Software updates - found this "1308" update but it would seem there is the newer "1314" update. What's the real deal? Is it true the 1308 update vastly improved the camera's features and the battery life? ('cause i can't see that info on the website) And how often would those "minor" updates be like performance updates, battery life improvements, new features, etc.
16. Any good note-taking app?
17. How does one go back to view last viewed sites on IE10? Is it any way possible to save them on the hard drive of the phone so i can view them again & again?
18. A way or possibility to print wirelessly to a bluetooth wireless wifi printer?
19. Can one create folders (like a folder for Games, News apps, etc.) like in Android?
20. A very good .pdf viewer please?
21. Can i easily edit a Contact's name, phone number, details, etc.?
22. Can i set a Calendar event or note?
23. Is there a way to edit or change the tile icons on the "main" home screen?
24. Does the camera of the Lumias (in particular the 920) is BSI and HDR features?
Again, read of reviews that the camera is good but photos can sometimes be "washed out" and looks blurry when zoomed in.
25. Screenshots - With Android there is a way to take a screenshot of your phone's current screen. IS this possible with WP8? If yes then how?
26. A good alternative to Google Maps where i can check for transport updates and how to get from point A to B or how to find nearby shops or restaurants?
27. How often does Nokia or MS updates their phones?
28. The battery is only 2000mAh which compare to Android or iPhones is very tiny. How long does the phone lasts for Music? Video? Moderate use?
Please advice. Thanks.
1. yes
2. yes but via apps from market (Windows Store)
3. no but Lumia have equalizer setting and Dolby headphone settings
4. yes and no... you can add songs to playlist and you can with WP app for PC/mac you can make playlist but few things missing
5. yes
6. yes with IE or apps from Market, you cant have other browser, only IE (or Nokia Xpress Browser), maps also with IE or with other app (gMaps for example)
7. yes. yes (direct and also with apps from Market. yes. yes. in most case is enough Nokia apps but if you need more just search market or use App Highlights to suggest you apps
8. yes. WP keyboard is rudimentary but you can swipe with finger to type
9. no. in reality, all players from Market is only shell to original windows player...
10. when notification come, is shown short time in top of screen and if you click it, open it... if you dont click, notification closes and shown on lock screen (wallpaper all missed notification with icon and number)
11. is tons of many apps in Market, i dont use it but think no problem to find right one
12. yes and no.... can sideload but only original apps downloaded from Windows Store and loaded from SDcard if Lumia have SDcard slot. No other alternative stores. WP is most secure OS and in 2 and half year no any type of malware or viruses found on Windows Store because this restrictions
13. copy paste working, just select text and select copy icon, same with paste...
14. yes, in IE settings
15. 1308 is latest, 1314 is only AT&T update and not available for others...
16. a lot of them in market...
17. you can go back and you can bookmark but no save page option
18. not tried but think no...
19. you can create folders, anything like normal storage when connect via USB
20. official is good also others in Market
21. yes, on phone or on Live account on web http://mail.live.com/?rru=contacts
22. yes
23. yes and no... in basically you cant change tiles but also apps on market which can you make own style tiles and give him options
24. yes... Nokia 920 make great pictures...
25. yes, press windows button and power button... and this working where you want (apps, games, settings)
26. Here apps from nokia gives you most good navigation, travel and exploration features completely free with Maps, Drive, City Lens, Transit apps
27. booth... Nokia almost every week give new updates and improvements for their apps and settings
28. in normal use two day, less use 3 days for me (but i turned off many apps from working in background)... for music one day or little more is normal... all depend how many you use and set options in your phone. and newer let battery to discharged... this an brick phone... wireless charging is great thing, and if you can, get original Nokia plate for charging.
many of this answers is here
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
I'm not looking for a Nokia Android phone here. Sure some questions i have been asking were"asked" before that is why i had to slightly change as to how i ask a specific question.
So far i like some of the replies in here. Very interesting OS compared to Android or IOS. For me one way to really know if i like a phone is to go to a shop. Which i've done today.
I went to an O2 store and saw the Lumia 920 & the 925. Both headphone jack were closed as i wanted to try out the vaunted Dolby headphones sound enhancement. The sales rep explained that he cannot do something about anything as he seem to suggest the brackets around the phone that covers the headphone jack is to "prevent the phones getting stolen". Jeez. An early turn off so i went to an EE shop instead.
EE had a working Lumia 920 so went to try it out. Camera seems slightly better than my S3 but noticed there were very few settings to dabble. Wasn't very much convinced with the Dolby sound enhancement (GSMArena were right after all); I wasn't sure if the software of the unit i was given was updated but i was using a mid-range 2-month old Sony earphones i must say. Even after changing the EQ to Custom sound was still somehow "flat" and lacking personality. Was able to try send a file from my S3 to the 920 with a bit of ease although it took about a minute which by todays' standards isn't great but isn't bad either.
What i still don't like:
1. Lack of an alternative app store
2. Lack of alternative browser
3. Lack of a really good altenrative music player with my above needs
4. Lack of .mkv and .srt support in video player
5. Slowness in transferring files via bluetooth
6. The need for a software in order to transfer files. Although someone did menttioned i can just copy & paste files and put them in a folder.
7. Uninspiring and seemingly flat audio/music quality when headphones are connected (even with Dolby On)
8. Non-removable & "low capacity" battery
9. Small 4.5" screen
10. Lack of or the inability to print to a wireless printer
11. Inability (?) for the phone to act as a wifi hotspot
12. Lack of swiping action for faster typing on keyboard
13. Inability to set Google as a search option
14. Inability to save a webpage as a .pdf file for future viewing
15. Few camera options & settings
16. No ability to edit a photo within OS/device
17. Inability to create folders tiles (for quick access to apps)
What also bothered me when i was in the EE shop was what the sales rep told me. She said that many people have been returning their Lumia 920s (i.e. rate of Lumias being returned were MANY!) for repair because of various problems such as bad incoming/outgoing call quality, screen issues and rebooting/crashing issues. She also bluntly advised me to get a Galaxy S4 or the HTC One instead.
Doesn't help with building up confidence does it?
Only the AT&T version allows you to tether and have up to 5 devices connected to it. But you have to have the second tier data package. Yes you can print to a wireless printer over WiFi (maybe another AT&T exclusive). It uses windows for godsake. If a PC can do it, this phone can do it. As for camera settings. It's a phone. If you want camera settings, then get a camera.
All app can be made into a tile simply by tapping and holding until the menu pops up to pin to desktop. The the file can be resized and positioned as you want it.
Google as a search option? Just make it your browser homepage. So what if it is just one more click. Has society really become this lazy?
That small screen is IPS and blows away all the other phones out there regardless of size. Also the gorilla glass is near diamond hard. Ok exaggeration but it is much harder than any other display out there.
You must have missed the edit photo option. You can cut, crop, change colors, and all kinds of edit options. Maybe that is another AT&T only feature.
My low capacity battery last 12 hours under full load and recharges in two with the wireless charger. Not sure what you want, but it is a computer in your pocket and you will not get phone life out of the battery.
Saving a webpage as a PDF. an Andy will not do that by default. So just wait for an app to be made. Or hey just bookmark it and view it over wifi.
There are alternative app stores for WP8. you just have to get into the right click. They are not made public since MS would shut them down.
There are three browsers that are free on the app store and six more you can pay for.
Did you even really try this out yourself or just let others opinions sway you like a typical sheeple? You know the site you keep referring to is biased against WP and MS products. So of course they will give this phone a negative review.
I am sorry to sound harsh but you tried one version from one provider. They are different. There are at this moment three types of 920 out there. The AT&T, The Rogers, and the all others. Each have some variations in functions and quality. As well as variations in the OS.
You also don't need software to transfer files. Not sure where you got that from but if the phone is plugged into a PC it behaves just like a USB drive and can be explored by windows explorer and you just drag and drop files just like another hard drive.
Bluetooth for file transfer is old school and slow. The S3 as well as the Lumia has a tap to send feature that when both phones are near each other you just select a file, select tap to send, find the other phone in the list and tap it. The other phone if feature is turned on will acknowledge a waiting file. You confirm it and it transfers over the TTS network between the phones. Faster than BT by the way.
There are several MKV players in the store, but they are not free.
I'm sorry but it just sounds like you are picking the phone apart and trying to convince yourself not to get one. If you are happy with Andy then the Lumia is not for you just to be blunt. Most Lumia users are tired of Andy or iPhone and that is why they switched. You will not get the customization of Andy with this phone. What you will get is a good rugged phone that has an OS that runs it like it should with minimal apps to perform most day to day things. You will get a camera that rivals lower end SLR's in quality even if it does not have all the bells and whistles. Yes there are SLR users here who have compared the pic quality and in some case it was better on this phone. You will get an OS that runs smoothly and fast and again does what it should. I will say it one last time. If you are happy with Andy or iPhone then this phone is not for you. This phone is a first phone, or a phone for those tired of the cookie cutter phones/OS's out there.
I do not think GSMArena is "biased" to WP & MS products. Why would they? Please enlighten me. The reason they have "negative" reviews of the Lumias is because its the truth i suppose. And the truth sometimes hurts isn't it?
And you might also ask yourself: why would the sales person be biased in saying the rate of returns is enormous because of such & such issues? Please enlighten me. Of all shops i went to (O2, EE & Carphone Warehouse) most of them sell (YES) Android phones (as many companies make Android phones...duh!), iPhones AND Windows phone 8 phones.
Again, let me ask (and challenge you)...why would the sales person be biased? I don't think its because they use Android phones most of the times. I simply don't think so. These people are trained to use and be familiar with ALL types of phones. The only reason i could think of is their reputation. Many returns (for repairs or otherwise) will ultimately have a negative effect on them.
I also heard of incompatibility with the EE network. If the phone is 4G-ready/capable it shouldn't be a compatibility issue. Its the issue of the maker of the phone (and OS) itself isn't it? If the phone is not up to what it can do or is capable of doing then i would rather go for a tried and tested and familiar phone & OS that is Android. I'm aware some companies release different versions of their phones depending on the country/market but still that doesn't help at all.
Also, the trouble with these shops is their phones are most of the times not updated so the software & other improvements are not there for you to experience. The headphone jack might be "locked" by the braces holding the phone or the phone isn't charged at all. Its a lose-lose situation.
Look i am not looking for a perfect Nokia Android phone as i will not find one. I know its either Windows Phone 8 or Android OS.
I made myself clear on my previous reply about my experience in the phone shops and the negative things i have known and read.
If i get the Lumia 920 right now on a 24-month contract with EE will they allow me to return the phone simply because "im not happy with it"? I guess we all know the answer to these question. All they care about is getting money from you and that's it.
Doesn't inspire confidence does it?
I know AT&T gives you a 14 day return period even on a 24 month contract. If you go beyond 14 days then they hit you with the phones full price if you break contract. The issue is not the phone, with 4G. 4G from provider to provider is on different frequencies. This phone like all others only supports 4G and LTE on certain frequencies. If your provider does not support those frequencies then there is nothing that you nor Nokia can do. You need to bust your providers balls to support the other frequencies as well. Good luck on that though since they will just tell you to use a phone they provide. If you want the Lumia to function 100% then you have to buy it from a provider who supports it and use their network. Buying it and trying to use it on a network that it was not intended for will result in fail most of the time. Or the very least a lot of flashing and tweaking and still may not be 100%.
I will say it again. If you like Android and are happy with it then stay with it. To me it sounds like you have already decided against this phone anyways. You Are not going to get somebody in a Lumia forum to flat out tell you not to buy it. So if you are looking for somebody to confirm your feelings you won't get it here. The bottom line is that this phone is not for somebody who is happy with their current OS. This phone is a phone for those just starting or those just fed up with the other stuff out there.
Well thank you all for your replies and insights.
If i get a Windows Phone 8 phone right now i feel it is a way backward not forward. I'm familiar with Android OS so i think i'll stick it out with them.
As a long time android user (since the T-Mobile G1 so about 5 years) i decided to try the Lumia 920 a few days ago and so far i`am loving it, so here are my first thoughts :
- The speed and lagless performance of the OS powered by a dual core cpu instead by a quad- or octocore cpu that is required for android. Clearly the OS and hardware are far better optimized than android. Also i had no reboots or fc`s so far.
- Many specific Nokia apps like Drive that enables navigation without a data connection required as you can download and install maps from the country`s you need.
- Seemless integration and synchronisation with Google and great data/contacts/calender transference when setting up the phone.
- Though there are obviously less apps available than with iOs and android there are many more than i initialy thought and most good and important apps are available. Only Dropbox is limited imo as it doesn`t sync and add automaticaly.
- Great camera and speakers.
- Good call quality.
I didn`t think it was going to be as good as it turned out so far but atm i don`t miss android at all and so i might stick with WP8 for a long(er) while than i anticipated.
Hope the coming update planned for July will bring some more goodies
if any problem with Google sync, simple set Google account via advanced setup
settings - email+accounts - add an account - advanced setup
- add your account info
- select Exchange ActiveSync
- add other data (dont forget to enter full email address for username), for server use m.google.com
- Sign in.... that's all
for calendar's problems look Microsoft advises
http://microsoft-news.com/sync-google-calendar-events-to-windows-calendar-app-via-outlook-com/
P.S.
Also must have app for WP is Store Deals to check latest discounts and occasional free periods for pay apps
Don't know what you mean about seemless integration with Google Calendar. Can't edit it at all. I had to follow Microsoft's tip and subscribe to it via Outlook.com but you can't edit the Google calendar that way as it is read only. Email and contacts are great. Hopefully the update that includes CalDAV support will fix the calendar issues.
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Don't know what you mean about seemless integration with Google Calendar. Can't edit it at all. I had to follow Microsoft's tip and subscribe to it via Outlook.com but you can't edit the Google calendar that way as it is read only. Email and contacts are great. Hopefully the update that includes CalDAV support will fix the calendar issues.
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If you use Google calendar which i don't changes you make on the regular calender on the phone will sync to the google calendar and vice versa if you change google calendar on the PC. Just use the normal calendar on the phone and it should sync with your other calenders linked through google or hotmail.
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If you use Google calendar which i don't changes you make on the regular calender on the phone will sync to the google calendar and vice versa if you change google calendar on the PC. Just use the normal calendar on the phone and it should sync with your other calenders linked through google or hotmail.
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Sorry I was getting my windows devices mixed up.....It is working for me on WP8 just not Windows 8
Agreed in everything.
worst problem I found in WP8? Whatsapp...not always updating, got the notification but not the message....and we really need a good video player with mp4, avi and srt support.....and a notification center.
Any MS guy ever read this forum?
ramping said:
Agreed in everything.
worst problem I found in WP8? Whatsapp...not always updating, got the notification but not the message....and we really need a good video player with mp4, avi and srt support.....and a notification center.
Any MS guy ever read this forum?
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whats app working fine for me... no missed or late notification....
also avi and mp4 files work fine... and dont except or hope for srt (or any other subtitle) player... f you hope for this, you not learn anything about WP....
dxdy said:
whats app working fine for me... no missed or late notification....
also avi and mp4 files work fine... and dont except or hope for srt (or any other subtitle) player... f you hope for this, you not learn anything about WP....
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YXPlayer can play videos with srt subtitles....but it´s a crappy app.
Still waiting for the VLC official app.
Anyone expiriace any problems with whatsapp?
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Anyone expiriace any problems with whatsapp?
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I don't use it; I use Skype and MetroTalk. Skype's not free but I'm not going to worry about paying on average $60 a year; $5 a month. It doesn't require my universe to have the identical app on the other end.
Quick question...
I really, really, really detest my Xperia S now, like really detest it.
The lagging, god-awful camera, the freezing, everything.
I would try to install a custom Rom, but my Bootlocker unlocked allowed is: no.
I'm really not a high-end user. No interest in games, or intensive apps.
Camera, browsing, travel apps are the main interest for me.
I can get rid of it and pay approx £60-£100 to get the Lumia 920
Would you guys advise it?
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Quick question...
I really, really, really detest my Xperia S now, like really detest it.
The lagging, god-awful camera, the freezing, everything.
I would try to install a custom Rom, but my Bootlocker unlocked allowed is: no.
I'm really not a high-end user. No interest in games, or intensive apps.
Camera, browsing, travel apps are the main interest for me.
I can get rid of it and pay approx £60-£100 to get the Lumia 920
Would you guys advise it?
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I bought the 920 to replace the xperia t I had, best thing I ever did
It's fast, fluid, no freezes or hangups, battery life is great for me, the camera is awesome and I love the wireless charging.
If you can live without the modding and just use your phone for what it is then I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Sent from the event horizon of a quantum singularity
steevio_uk said:
Quick question...
I really, really, really detest my Xperia S now, like really detest it.
The lagging, god-awful camera, the freezing, everything.
I would try to install a custom Rom, but my Bootlocker unlocked allowed is: no.
I'm really not a high-end user. No interest in games, or intensive apps.
Camera, browsing, travel apps are the main interest for me.
I can get rid of it and pay approx £60-£100 to get the Lumia 920
Would you guys advise it?
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I have been an iPhone user and then a multitude of android phones user (Samsung) before embracing WP8.
My opinion: iPhone is fine if you just want a phone that works - although Apple lost me after the release of the iPhone 4: I was obviously holding it wrong when I wanted to make a call so it mostly wouldn't iOS is simple to use and has lots of apps, but is a walled garden.
Android, while open and extremely customizable, really annoyed me: at first the phones were fine, then became laggy over time. I also found I was frequently rebooting the phones daily. You shouldn't have to install a custom ROM for it to work smoothly. While there are a lot of apps, they are mostly poor quality compared to their iOS counterparts.
So I decided on trying out WP8 around 4 months ago and bought a Lumia 920. First off the build quality is excellent, it's a solid lump of a phone, not tacky plastic feeling like the Samsungs I had. The operating system has NEVER lagged on me...EVER. I only found out a few weeks after I'd had it how to reboot it, and I only did that to find out how to, not that it needed it. Although not nearly as customizable as the androids, I personally got bored doing so with the Samsungs anyway. I love the Live Tiles on the Lumia 920. Again there are nowhere near the amount of apps as iOS or Android, but those there are I find to be as good as iOS apps.
The camera is excellent. So good in fact that when my other half wants pictures taken she asks me to do so - she has an iPhone 5.
At first I was worried by the fact you cannot use a memory card, but honestly I find the 32gb onboard to be plenty - never had to go through and delete stuff to make more room. An added bonus is the wireless charging - I still think it's witchcraft :laugh: no idea how or why it works but it does lol
So in summary, yes - I thoroughly recommend the Lumia 920 for your needs: the camera is great, the stock browser is quick and I never had a problem with it and navigation is top notch.
Thanks so much for your replies.
I have had the phone for 4-5 days now and I am absolutely delighted by the decision. Possibly the best hardware change/update I've ever made.
I am finding excuses for taking pictures, such is the quality of the camera, enjoying getting to grips with the new layout and O/S, trying to find decent apps for certain things I used on Android, the main one being the notes app, which was sat on my Android home screen and I used regularly as a 1 click solution to add a note and remind me of things.
Something like that, as a simple live tile would be great, but haven't found such an app yet. (Any you guys suggest?)
I was initially very concerned by the battery life. I took it out with me after an initial charge and found the battery draining away at an alarming rate, even with it in my pocket!
But as I'm sure you're well aware, there's the changes to remedy this;; turning NFC off, location, background apps, getting used to exiting an app with the back button etc.
Great battery life now.
Just ordered a case and I'm one happy bunny!
My god, the Xperia S seems like a distant nightmare now! :victory:
Hey guys
So today I decided to give the Windows phone a shot. Been an avid Android user and follower since it started But decided that I should really give the other operating systems a shot. I just went and got myself a Lumia 925 and if I'm correct that phone is T-Mobile's variant of the 920 correct? I didn't see a thread for the 925 so I think this is where I belong. So with that here are a few questions I have before I dive into my brand new 925.
Just briefly looking through the forum here, I noticed some ROM's here. Are these different versions of the WP software or are these developers personal tweaks to it? I know with Android depending on what phone you have, you can root it and install the latest version of Android on it, currently 4.3, even if your phone prior is only at 4.1.2.
My other question is what apps does everyone here recommend on getting. I know the app market here is really lacking and its a total shame about that. I am pretty integrated into the whole google network (Gmail, Drive, Music, G+, etc). I use some social media apps but those are't too important to me. Suggestions for other apps would be amazing.
Really looking forward in giving this a test drive and in advance thanks for all of your help! :highfive:
no major differences in many variants of same versions... just every operator have own branded versions of firmware.. no way to root or unlock phone (not talk about SIM unlock)
phone market have enough good applications...
but Google and Microsoft have "cold" war and dont except major Google apps on WP platform
Nokia have own alternative for maps, HERE bunch of apps (Maps, Drive, Transit and City Lens) and very good Nokia Music service...
first at all install SysApp Pusher to easy access to Nokia apps and system apps updates
also check for Store Deals and myFreeApp to get notifications about promotional period of pay apps to get it for free
for Instagram use 6Tag
also check guides on http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
for offline navigation you can use Nokia Drive+ or pay for Navigon USA, Garmin StreetPilot or CoPilot GPS (if you have legal licences you can use it on CoPilot without purchase new)
GetThemAll to download stuff from websites (videos, etc.)
Stop the Music! for stopping (kill) media player (or free alternative from market, just use search)
dxdy said:
no major differences in many variants of same versions... just every operator have own branded versions of firmware.. no way to root or unlock phone (not talk about SIM unlock)
phone market have enough good applications...
but Google and Microsoft have "cold" war and dont except major Google apps on WP platform
Nokia have own alternative for maps, HERE bunch of apps (Maps, Drive, Transit and City Lens) and very good Nokia Music service...
first at all install SysApp Pusher to easy access to Nokia apps and system apps updates
also check for Store Deals and myFreeApp to get notifications about promotional period of pay apps to get it for free
for Instagram use 6Tag
also check guides on http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
for offline navigation you can use Nokia Drive+ or pay for Navigon USA, Garmin StreetPilot or CoPilot GPS (if you have legal licences you can use it on CoPilot without purchase new)
GetThemAll to download stuff from websites (videos, etc.)
Stop the Music! for stopping (kill) media player (or free alternative from market, just use search)
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Awesome, thanks for all the info will definitely check out all the apps you suggested. Ya I know Google and Microsoft aren't on the best of terms as of right now which only really hurts the users in the long run. Thanks again for your speedy reply!
Xg3nFatality said:
Awesome, thanks for all the info will definitely check out all the apps you suggested. Ya I know Google and Microsoft aren't on the best of terms as of right now which only really hurts the users in the long run. Thanks again for your speedy reply!
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925 is enhanced version of 920 regarding camera, but without wireless charging integrated and also slimmer due this fact
Don't try 920 ROMs on 925 and vise verse..you will brick your phone.
Don't switch. Android might be slower but it has so much more to offer. There is no free video player on the Windows 8 phone. Nothing that can play MKV for free. There is no built in flash support so sites on the web that still use flash don't work. That is an issue with all mobile devices now though. You can't block unwanted calls. There is no app that allows you to do that as there is no app that is allowed access to the kernel thanks to MS protection Nazi's. As soon as my contract ends next year I am going back to G4. This phone is just locked down too tight.
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Don't switch. Android might be slower but it has so much more to offer. There is no free video player on the Windows 8 phone. Nothing that can play MKV for free. There is no built in flash support so sites on the web that still use flash don't work. That is an issue with all mobile devices now though. You can't block unwanted calls. There is no app that allows you to do that as there is no app that is allowed access to the kernel thanks to MS protection Nazi's. As soon as my contract ends next year I am going back to G4. This phone is just locked down too tight.
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Actually in the amber update that is now a built in ability to block both calls and text from specific numbers, though you have always had the ability to save a number and set a blank ringtone for it.
Most of the videos I play are either podcast or streamed via PlexApp both of which work great, and if not, you can always convert them using Zune, granted it is a bit of work.
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This phone is just locked down too tight.
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That's what it makes it so fun fiddling with it!
dont forget about the wifi calling that t-mobile has.. while the other ROMs do not has it.
Since the Amber Update Gmail works fine, as does Google Calendar, both in the Native WP apps.
Get Metrotalk for Google Voice. It takes a few moments to configure but once you do it works as well as Google Voie for IOS including the ability to call from the App.
I too just switched from Android and I'm still on the fence. Most of the Apps I use are here but the are some near dealbreakers like Sirius/XM and my IP Camera app that are not present and probably never will be.
On the other hand, there are a lot of nice included features like SkyDrive and Nokia Pro Cam. Unfortunately, the choice is not clear cut. You have to figure out whats important to you.
I myself was hell bent on being a one device guy. Had the Galaxy Note and Note 2 so I'd have EVERYTHING all at once. Now with the Lumias (especially the 1020) getting such great cameras I may stick with Windows Phone. I do still have an Android Tablet though to get me by.
Then again, Sony's stuff at IFA like the Z1 or the QX cameras are so intruiging. Though, the Lenses won't work with Wndows Phone, or any phone bigger than 5 inches.
So, once again, I'm left scratching my head. Do I go back to the best all around device like the Galaxy Note 3? Or do I stick with the best camera? Or do I compromise, get a middling Android Phone like the S3 or Optimus G so I can slap one of the Sony QX lenses on it? So many decisions!