WOW!
At least samsung has made the effort to get JB to S2....
It's no wonder that allot of us are feeling the sting of no JB on the rezound...
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Even worse they got a leak one or twice a month.
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I think even worse is the fact the Droid Bionic is suppose to be getting JB. Wow.
It's because the S2 was Samsung's flagship.. The Rezound is HTC's redheaded stepchild on VZW. Simple enough?
Motorola and Samsung are both updating phone over a year older than the Rezound and HTC is wondering why they are losing more and more customers cause instead of updating phones they are making you buy new phones to get the next operating system. I won't be getting the Next HTC phone for Verizon I am hoping the Google/Motorola phone is real cause that is the route I wanna go.
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Motorola and Samsung are both updating phone over a year older than the Rezound and HTC is wondering why they are losing more and more customers cause instead of updating phones they are making you buy new phones to get the next operating system. I won't be getting the Next HTC phone for Verizon I am hoping the Google/Motorola phone is real cause that is the route I wanna go.
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Ya, I really want the HTC one, but I just can't do it after their lack of support for the rezound.
If the one isn't as big as they need it to be,they will move on quickly to another device. They can't afford to support more than one device at a time I don't think.
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SII is getting 4.2 as well. Always get Samsung for good support. Even Ace II is getting 4.2. HTC are terrible on support. Samsung or Google Nexus are the best for updates
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I remember a time when Samsung really wasn't that good with updates, boy have times changed. I am close to wanting to drop the Rezound for the Maxx HD, just for the better battery life and better update support(at least so it seems), but the screen and size of the Rezound really has me(it's pretty much the only HD screen on a 4.3in device). HTC is really testing our patients I think.
I was just saying this the other day... Joke's on us I guess. Should have just dealt with moto or samsung and not had the best phone out to get updates. HTC makes beautiful phones but I'm kind of sick of sense and no/really slow updates. I don't see why they don't give us sense 4 and jb. If they did I might change my mind. But we don't even have the latest ICS and sense 3.6 or w/e is worse than 3.5 imo lol. I feel basically forced to get a GS4 even if I didn't sort of want one.. At least I know it will be supported for a couple of years or more. Samsung used to have a bad track record too, now HTCs is even worse than Samsungs was.
Support? We don't need no stinkin' support.
We have great dev's here, like Snuzzo, iHWO, shrike, and Neo just to name a few. A development community even a quarter as good as this one would still be far better than any manufacturer support, save Nexus devices for obvious reasons (and even then, if you're tied to a carrier you're screwed for OTA).
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Support? We don't need no stinkin' support.
We have great dev's here, like Snuzzo, iHWO, shrike, and Neo just to name a few. A development community even a quarter as good as this one would still be far better than any manufacturer support, save Nexus devices for obvious reasons (and even then, if you're tied to a carrier you're screwed for OTA).
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I'm not saying our devs aren't great. But if we had jelly bean from HTC imagine how tits everything would be then... And it would have saved everyone a ton of work just to get something to boot. But no... HTC gnf.
Edit: or even a better sense ICS update for that matter, Smh lol
I agree that HTC needs to support its past phones, a Dev community is only as good as leaks or full releases from the company itself. CM is bad ass cause goggle releases the code and the Dev add or take away things that they like. But as far as giving us Jelly bean on the Rezound with everything working would still take help from HTC. As you can see by the stand still in the development section progress stands still without leaks, OTAs and most important the code itself from HTC. Unless having less phones will give them time to concentrate on updating past phones I don't think HTC will update the Rezound any further. I am hoping July will be the month I upgrade to the Xphone if its real but we'll find that in May hopefully
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A high end nexus for Verizon would be a dream come true. Even if verizon didn't sell it directly
I have a Rezound and a RAZR. With the 4.1.2 update for the RAZR it only seemed to perform slightly faster then the Rezound with 4.0.3
Even so, I still don't really use the RAZR for much of anything at all(it's just a backup phone).
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Support? We don't need no stinkin' support.
We have great dev's here, like Snuzzo, iHWO, shrike, and Neo just to name a few. A development community even a quarter as good as this one would still be far better than any manufacturer support, save Nexus devices for obvious reasons (and even then, if you're tied to a carrier you're screwed for OTA).
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Don't forget Chad. I wouldn't even have jumped into the game if it hadn't been for his AOSP RIL.
JB + sense4 for my rezound will be my wishlist
since evo LTE and droid DNA will get sense5
Once my upgrade is here - I'm gone off the Rezound! I have a company iPhone 5 and honestly the battery way outperforms all HTC phones I've owned. Here's to hoping the GS4 has great battery!
An HTC rep shared this article because it says what he can't say. I think there's a lot of truth in it. At least the points logic out well to me.
My opinion is Verizon makes decisions about updates based on what is selling best and Sammy is selling like hotcakes, so they are showing all kinds of love to Samsung. Motorola sucks but they are Googles kid, so they get love. HTC killed themselves by spending too much time being quietly brilliant and making 35 different models. If they kept it simple and spent some money on TV ads, it might have been different... Still might, time will tell.
http://ukmobilesupport.co.uk/why-android-updates-are-so-slow/
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sooo....besides the risk of info being leaked....y doesnt google release the code to Samsung, HTC, ect, have it all tested...and have everything ready to be deployed and THEN announce the new update like Apple?
We get leaks usually though when manufacturers finish their updates... Even those leaks are really slow or never show up. So I'm still blaming manufacturers. Lol
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Just a heads up. The end of July is 10 weeks, so let's hope its closer to June...
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
Aight coo
Did I just assume when I bought it that it would be in the first wave? Or did they actually say that when the Rezound was launched? I honestly can't remember.
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Did I just assume when I bought it that it would be in the first wave? Or did they actually say that when the Rezound was launched? I honestly can't remember.
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I think it was supposed to be "first quarter" which I guess is in June now.
Once again, I'll believe it when I see the OTA notification on my phone.
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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If you want incessant updates that constantly disables jailbreak you're more than welcome to hit up ios.
I don't really see what the problem is other just impatience. People who don't do custom roms still have a perfectly useable phone on GB, and those who can't wait have a lot of extra options.
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my first thought was "if this is another crappy article making radical claims someones getting an angry letter"
good to hear =)
should be happy the ETA isn't in 2013 at the current rollout rates hehe
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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And look at the GNex. Six months after release and still on 4.0.2. If you have one of those you must really be steaming. What happened to the Google Experience?
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If you want incessant updates that constantly disables jailbreak you're more than welcome to hit up ios.
I don't really see what the problem is other just impatience. People who don't do custom roms still have a perfectly useable phone on GB, and those who can't wait have a lot of extra options.
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Another thing I hate--false dichotomies. If I want updates iOS, if I want a bigger screen and openness, Android.
BS. It's possible to have both. If, for example, HTC had stuck to their hero device model and ONLY released a One X, S, and V, do you think updates would be difficult? Nope. It'd be easy.
Samsung? Well, updates would be easy too if they release a GSM GS3, a CDMA/LTE GS3 and a GSM/LTE GS3, but I'd guess by December we'll have the Galaxy S3 Skyrocket HD Supreme LTE 5G Maxxx.
Release fewer, better models. Easier software updates. Not hard. Not iOS.
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Another thing I hate--false dichotomies. If I want updates iOS, if I want a bigger screen and openness, Android.
BS. It's possible to have both. If, for example, HTC had stuck to their hero device model and ONLY released a One X, S, and V, do you think updates would be difficult? Nope. It'd be easy.
Samsung? Well, updates would be easy too if they release a GSM GS3, a CDMA/LTE GS3 and a GSM/LTE GS3, but I'd guess by December we'll have the Galaxy S3 Skyrocket HD Supreme LTE 5G Maxxx.
Release fewer, better models. Easier software updates. Not hard. Not iOS.
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I only half disagree with this. If it were up to HTC/Samsung/Google/etc. all the devices, more than likely, would be kept up to date, and in a somewhat timely fashion.
Look at the Verizon GNex. Do you think Google and Samsung don't have a working build of 4.0.4 on it? Sure they do. Verizon just isn't happy with it, for whatever reason. Same thing applies to 90% of phones in the US.
The international, unlocked versions of phones get the newer updates faster than their US counterparts, and the cell companies have a huge impact on that.
I'm not saying manufacturers and Google don't deserve some of the blame, because they do; they're pretty lazy and complacent in a way that Apple would never be. But I think Verizon is more at fault than any other party, and I'd like to see the cell companies get more heat than Google over this stuff lately.
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but I'd guess by December we'll have the Galaxy S3 Skyrocket HD Supreme LTE 5G Maxxx.
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Oh, my, God. I must have that device. Lol awesome name.
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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I don't care about whether or not stock phones can get updates or not. The only point I'll start getting annoyed is when it starts becoming difficult to even ROM the phone. In our case, we don't have kernel source. In my world, that's the only real big issue with fragmentation: With so many different hardware configurations out and more and more proprietary software sprouting up (the plethora grows!), getting someone to create a stable ROM and maintain it becomes ever harder.
All this choice is good for people with different things in mind and even though ICS is the business, Gingerbread (IMO) is still pretty sweet. Stock Gingerbread, that is. But boy, now we're having a hard time getting kernels made, the number of devices we have are definitely starting to outpace the number of developers with the time on their hands, etc.
Really you guys don't see a problem with it taking so long to get updates? I know I do. So maybe we will have an update in 6-8 weeks and kernel source in 8-10 that's great. I often wonder what HTC does all day. Must be a pretty laid back place to work.
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I'm sick of these "announcements". Not because of not having ICS (because we do) but the amount "announcements" we have had that were bull****.
Yea but most of these "announcements" have obviously been fake. I don't recall HTC ever putting anything out saying when they would roll updates out. I could be wrong though as I haven't given it too much attention
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I'm sick of these "announcements". Not because of not having ICS (because we do) but the amount "announcements" we have had that were bull****.
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This is the first word from HTC regarding the update. In reality, all the other "announcements" were unconfirmed rumors.
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Just a heads up. The end of July is 10 weeks, so let's hope its closer to June...
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
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only 10 weeks...this puts how short the summer is into perspective. i think ill sit back and try to stop obsessively checking the forums for nebulous ics updates and enjoy the summer. hell we worry more about it then some devs do
The problem is, is that if the upgrade is slated to hit at the end of July, it'll be August possibly before we get kernel source since it usually takes like two weeks for source to release.
We don't get updates because of device/carrier fragmentation. Each level of choice is an opportunity for the manufacturer or carriert to differentiate their product or service. This is necessary to be competitive with its industry rivals and to continue to grow sales, thus making shareholders happy. It becomes difficult to allocate resources to support such a wide range of hardware apps and carrier specific needs, so the choice has to be made, which device to support. Then it becomes a question as to, support for which user base will benefit the company most. But this always come behind pushing the newest product, as support is an expense which only produces goodwill. That being said they almost always promise that whatever their selling will be fully supported and updated expeditiously.
Would a JB OTA from HTC/VZW would help progress? Not holding my breath.. Asked HTC on FB:
"We’re still reviewing our devices to see which phones are the best candidates to upgrade to Jelly Bean. We’ll prioritize most recent devices first and go from there. Thank you for your patience. See http://s.htc.com/Wj0G08 for more details."
Looks like there is a chance since the Rezound has more than 512MB of RAM. Seems they are only upgrading phones with more than 512MB of RAM. I know the latest Sense won't work on the Rezound and don't really care about that. Only interest in this is further progressing our JB AOSP ROMS.
This device will never see official JB. Plus it would take ages for them to release kernel source.. When that happens it'll probably be RIP Rezound.
They said our devices can't run sense 4.. Obviously it can. Even if htc put out jb updates, Verizon wouldn't allow it because then you wouldn't buy a new phone
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They said our devices can't run sense 4.. Obviously it can. Even if htc put out jb updates, Verizon wouldn't allow it because then you wouldn't buy a new phone
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The tbolt has a sense 4 custom room that works fine. Should work on the rezound given the much better specs.
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Would a JB OTA from HTC/VZW would help progress? Not holding my breath.. Asked HTC on FB:
"We’re still reviewing our devices to see which phones are the best candidates to upgrade to Jelly Bean. We’ll prioritize most recent devices first and go from there. Thank you for your patience. See http://s.htc.com/Wj0G08 for more details."
Looks like there is a chance since the Rezound has more than 512MB of RAM. Seems they are only upgrading phones with more than 512MB of RAM. I know the latest Sense won't work on the Rezound and don't really care about that. Only interest in this is further progressing our JB AOSP ROMS.
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the chances of us getting jellybean are slim but it might happen. if they updated the tbolt after so many months being dormant. i see hope for us.
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the chances of us getting jellybean are slim but it might happen. if they updated the tbolt after so many months being dormant. i see hope for us.
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I'm getting the one when it comes to the US. But I'll keep my Rezound just for a wifi device for when/if it gets updated
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This device will never see official JB. Plus it would take ages for them to release kernel source.. When that happens it'll probably be RIP Rezound.
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I'll still have mine. <3
Sense 4 runs on our device but I assume not every feature works as intended. I don't think jellybean is going to come officially.
They would much rather put the man power on what makes them more money rather than what did make them money. Not only that but the Rezound wasn't that well received.
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I just sent an e-mail, again, today, and they state that they are still reviewing devices for the update.
Probably not happening, but possibly.
The original RAZR line just got JB today, and removed most of the Moto bloat, in a surprise turn. I wish HTC was that nice to us.
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The original RAZR line just got JB today, and removed most of the Moto bloat, in a surprise turn. I wish HTC was that nice to us.
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Definitely a little irritating to read that a phone from the same generation as ours has an official JB release.
On a side note, thank you devs for picking up where HTC refuses to go.
It's not going to happen, sorry. HTC one X just got android 4.1 this week. Poor DROID incredible 2 folks are still waiting on ics.
Go look at the aosp roms in the rezound original development thread. I am running infection, which is based on android 4.2.2, at this very moment.
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Im done with HTC.
Razr was released 3 days after rezound and it's getting JB.
I was thrilled when I moved from t-mob to verizon, The Rezound was like my old Sensation's big brother. After my GFs Razr getting JB dropped on it last night - kinda upsets me. I don't know who to blame. HTC, or Verizon - Either way, This is my last HTC device. Love the hardware, hate the post purchase software support.
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Im done with HTC.
Razr was released 3 days after rezound and it's getting JB.
I was thrilled when I moved from t-mob to verizon, The Rezound was like my old Sensation's big brother. After my GFs Razr getting JB dropped on it last night - kinda upsets me. I don't know who to blame. HTC, or Verizon - Either way, This is my last HTC device. Love the hardware, hate the post purchase software support.
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I know it's an old topic & i'm not giving it the ol' dirty bump for no reason.
I emailed Verizon about the Razr getting JB and politely expressed my dissatisfaction with the Rezound being left behind. This was my answer.
So far your phone is up to date with the latest software approved by HTC and we have not yet been informed of any further updates. It's great that you have kept it up to date, it's the best way to make sure your phone is working well. I would advise to contact your phone manufacturer to see if they have any additional information on potential upcoming patches. HTC can be reached by dialing 866-449-8358.
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Guess they consider the Global Leak the 'most up to date' - cause that's what i'm running. haha.
i'm still done with HTC.
This Rez is most likely my last HTC too, until locked batteries last 2 days & cloud storage truly renders SD cards useless.
Did Verizon know you were referring to the RUU when you were talking about being up-to-date? Hehe.
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Like I said over at the BAMF forum; it's too bad because this phone never had its full potential realized. Quite frankly to me it would seem like this phone could handle the latest version of android with the latest version of sense with no problem, but c'est la vie, you cant win them all
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To sum this up Im done with htc as well.
If all these manufactures can update phones that were release the same time the rezound why cant htc?
granted we finaly got ics but lets see the razor had gingerbread to ics to jelly bean.
Saying that I feel like the build quality and hardware on this phone is amazing, from the gps insta lock to solid radios someone at htc knows what there doing in that department. Unfortunately whoever designs the power system really needs to check there calculations on battery size maybe move a decimal point or probably forgot a negative i don't know i mean a 1600 mah battery for a smartphone my dumb phone had a battery that large.
I do see why they haven't updated the rezound it didn't sell well and the device was only available on verizon(not a huge market share around the globe). They also wont make any money updating a device. I would think customer loyalty would be enough incentive to keep up on a device at least for two years. In my views it would make them money in the future because I would by another htc device again but since its so easy for them to abandon a device kinda make me wonder if they will do it again and I'm not willing to stake a 2 year contract on that. I've seen many manufacturers step up to the plate and keep old devices up to date.
So far I like the direction most manufacturers are going such as the galaxy s4(still has removable/large battery and sd card slot) and Motorola maxx phones. They plan on updated the galaxy s2 to 4.2.2 and that phone is older than the rezound. Also if I can get 2 days on a phone that would be awesome I would be willing to part with a removable battery.
Htc has been lacking in three key areas on all there devices. Low capacity non removable batteries, no sd cardslot/or large capacity memory on verizon phones, no updates for older devices. It seems like htc doesn't really get what will really help sell phones. To me there priority is looks and putting a glossy finish on the ui, they dont bother in key areas such as battery life and updates which actual matter to me. (they do a good job in radios and gps stuff). To me it seems like there basing their phones on iphones. If I wanted a phone like an iphone no sd card, no hdmi out, non removable battery I would buy an iphone. I want an android phone that fills these needs.
At this point my next device will be Samsung or Motorola(because they have solid radios and biggest battery for a mobile phone) I did have a bad experience with the droid charge which kinda turned me off from Samsung phones but the s3 is a huge improvement and nice device.
Main reason I've stayed with this device so long is the amazing devs that have help make this the device it should be. (thank you devs)
So to end untill htc makes a phone that last all day on heavy usage and decides to support a device for 2 years I will not be a customer.
I challenge htc to make me eat my words!!!
Hell if google can update their nexus phones even the older ones. Why cant htc and all the other phone manufacturers do the same. It's safe to say google has a lot more on their plates than the other manufacturers. Why my next phone will be a nexus. I love my n7.
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Hell if google can update their nexus phones even the older ones. Why cant htc and all the other phone manufacturers do the same. It's safe to say google has a lot more on their plates than the other manufacturers. Why my next phone will be a nexus. I love my n7.
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Carrier testing. Carrier approvals. Ignoring older devices in lieu of new devices that could earn more, new money. That's why the Galaxy Nexus on VZW a flop, imo. Too much regulation - especially when features such as Google Wallet are blocked.
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You got that right Verizon really tied Google's hands on that phone. Doubt there will be another nexus device on Verizon for quite awhile.
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Dear friends,
I really wanted to. I had so much hope for this device, but I can no longer do it. I love aosp and absolutely loathe sense. That being said for some reason I love HTC. They make beautiful, sexy, durable, powerful and for the most part, reasonably priced. But it seems to me that the salad days are behind me. I've had the aria, hero, touch pro, evo, HD, inspire, incredible, vivid, one x, and lastly the x+. But my last few haven't impressed and so here we are. As of last night I sold my x+, hugged my pillow, and cried myself to sleep. The latest set back was finally just to much for me after a long series of disappointments on other devices. I am using the money to buy an N4 and most likely will stick with the flagship on down the line. I plan to start learning as much as possible to help solve issues like this in the future. I say good bye and thank you to a great community and impressive company for now, its been an awesome ride.
Greatest regards,
Meatwad0222
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Did exactly the same last week
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That's a sad thread... should probably be ranamed as a "Farewell Thread"
But there is no way of happiness here, really... I was always with HTC, comming from HTC Touch Dual which was fun these days. Then my favourite HTC HD2. I was really crying when I sold it a few month ago... but sh.. I sold it for 200 bucks, and that was a price in january this year. Now I got mine HTC One X+. No trouble with a device it works, it works good, but I had more fun with my HD2 than what I have now. Want to say thanks for every dev, every member and every noob in HTC Community. That was good times. But HTC is dissapointing me, dissapointing me so much, that all my hate for Samsung has gone now and I'm switching to S4 in some time. But untill that, my heart still belongs to HTC... don't know for how long.
Same here. I gave my daughter my hox+ and downgraded to her S2 just so I could run CM again. I'll keep the S2 until the Motorola Google X is released. I too plan to stay with Google's flagship device from now on (whoever makes it). Thanks for everyone's help with hox+ related issues and questions.
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This reminds me of the farewell posts back in the Windows Mobile days. I got this phone in December, and it still has the stock ROM on it. None of the ROM's here really inspire me. This is coming from someone who went through the wire trick on the Sensation XE so I could load custom ROM's on it. Maybe I am just getting lazy, but looking for something different.
I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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It's not that there's something wrong with them, how would I know as I've not even flashed one, right? I used to love flashing ROMs, but now I guess I don't find it all that exciting anymore. I am on the International version of the HOX+ so which ROM would you recommend?
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I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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At&t
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meatwad0222 said:
Dear friends,
I really wanted to. I had so much hope for this device, but I can no longer do it. I love aosp and absolutely loathe sense.
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There will be CM for AT&T sooner than later though right? If sense is your only issue may as well stick it out
Patience doesn't hurt much. I've got plenty of other things to keep my attention, and I still have my Inspire to play with AOSP for now. Lloir has put a lot into this device so far, and even if not at full capacity he's said he plans to keep it going. Some calls for assistance have been sent out to other devs as well, I hear. And some of the names I've heard mention of are quite talented.
It's just a matter of time, and I think this device will be pretty great once it's got some AOSP love in it. I've had the device since November, and running Elegancia with the Nova launcher it's already quite good. I don't like sense as much as AOSP but Elegancia has been great so far. Great ROM, great dev. Besides I can't go saying there isn't enough dev work going into the device if I haven't taken the time to learn to dev myself.
Stock Sense 4 is well done imho. I was also a flashaholic on previous Android builds but now I am not completely, but pretty satisfied with the stock version that is on the device. Maybe it is because JB is more primetime than any other Android build of past?
I'm too leaving HTC after being an HTC fan for a long time... HTC is focusing and spending a lot of time on locking down their devices than actually releasing software updates.. They could've spent this time on finding a way to make their devices brick proof rather than locking it down. Their idea of updating software is releasing a new phone just like they did with the HOX and HOX+..
HTC one looks like a great device, however why the release it with android 4.1.2??? So they can release HTC one+ a few months later with android 4.2.2??
I used to hate Samsung as they make plastic and cheap looking devices but I've come to respect them as they don't abandon their devices and kept supporting them to the last minute... S3 is getting 4.2.2 soon while HOX+ still stuck at 4.1.1!! Samsung s2 is getting jelly bean!! While desire Hd didn't get ics!
I'm joining the boat and ditching HTC for good
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for what it's worth, S3 has been out for a lot longer. HOX+ is still pretty young. and lack of updates has more to do with lazy carriers than manufacturers typically. But I mean, go wherever you're happy going.
interesting to hear people willing to leave htc products behind, I've come from a long line of samsung phones when I jumped ship back in the desireHD days. Having tried the sony xperia z for a couple of weeks I was glad to be offered the one+ in exchange. I've missed the htc build quality
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interesting to hear people willing to leave htc products behind, I've come from a long line of samsung phones when I jumped ship back in the desireHD days. Having tried the sony xperia z for a couple of weeks I was glad to be offered the one+ in exchange. I've missed the htc build quality
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I think the hox+ is suffering from a timing issue. All of the devs upgraded to the hox after the desireHD/inspire and then htc released the + too soon. Bring on the Motorola X.
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So many great comments here. I'm on the verge of jumping ship to the new S4. As you can see from my sig, I've been exclusively with HTC for some time now, and I realllly like the x+. It's really a sleek and beautiful phone, I hate using a case but its cheap insurance. Also, for once I really don't mind the stock ROM, just had to flash the available mods and now I'm content. HTC has always treated me well, sending me new batteries and chargers even out of warranty without giving me a hard time. But alas, this dropping new and better phones every few months is really annoying. Its like they purposly hold back so they can realse something "better". If they were smart they would've made s-off easier, gave it 2gigs, and put efforts into upgrading to 4.2.2 and make the hox+ the flagship for about a year. After reading the specs of the next ONE, I'm not impressed at all, its a downgrade in memory and camera. WHY? This day in age 64gigs or an SD slot on a high end device should be the standard, and even if the 4 megapixel camera is better IRL, on paper it sounds like poop. Honestly though I can't see the camera being any better, especially if you installed the 4.2 camera app from the mod section. This phones cameras is as good or better then my Kodak 18magepix point and shoot. HTC, quit playing games. Make one kick #$% phone, upgrade it when needed, and let it rock out for about a year, stop holing back so you can realse something "better" two months later.
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HTC is focusing and spending a lot of time on locking down their devices than actually releasing software updates..
S3 is getting 4.2.2 soon while HOX+ still stuck at 4.1.1!! Samsung s2 is getting jelly bean!! While desire Hd didn't get ics!
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All carriers lock down their devices, HTC unlocks bootloaders like other OEM's via a site, what else do u need to customize your device? S-off? Unneeded.
S2 is only getting in release cos it sold a boat load of phones so of course sammy will update it to keep the peace, sensation got nowhere near the sales to warrent it in all honesty.
Sammy also doesn't update its tablets or non flagship devices, they rarely if any see updates to next android versions.
The sg4 also won't be getting official AOSP according to cyanogen mod devs as Sammy never outs the source code for yrs. Sg3 was lucky to get support.
The official news is that all current HTC devices including HOS will be getting sense 5 which will be 4.2.2 on release, at which point ill be using Aokp klp on my HOX+.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...heading-for-the-HTC-One-X-this-Summer_id41376
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All carriers lock down their devices, HTC unlocks bootloaders like other OEM's via a site, what else do u need to customize your device? S-off? Unneeded.
S2 is only getting in release cos it sold a boat load of phones so of course sammy will update it to keep the peace, sensation got nowhere near the sales to warrent it in all honesty.
Sammy also doesn't update its tablets or non flagship devices, they rarely if any see updates to next android versions.
The sg4 also won't be getting official AOSP according to cyanogen mod devs as Sammy never outs the source code for yrs. Sg3 was lucky to get support.
The official news is that all current HTC devices including HOS will be getting sense 5 which will be 4.2.2 on release, at which point ill be using Aokp klp on my HOX+.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...heading-for-the-HTC-One-X-this-Summer_id41376
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I'm not talking about carriers as I always buy international unlocked phones.. s-off is really need to be able to flash from within the device and don't have to use a pc to do so. so bootloader unlock still a limited way to open up the device.
the sensation didn't do well because it had many problems and i have owned one before and hated it .. HTC tried to fix it by releasing the XL and still the same...
HTC has said that it will release sense 5 alone with 4.2.2 but let's be honest the release of the update will take ages to see the light, because HTC ONE has android 4.1.2 so other devices won't see any updates till HTC ONE gets 4.2.2 and then maybe after a few months they will release it.. and I won't be too surprised if HTC releases HTC ONE+ to fix issues on the original one and introduce new issues as well.
i just bought Galaxy Note 10.1 and in a matter of months it got jelly bean 4.1.1 and then 4.1.2 .. also tab2 10.1 got 4.1.2 and tab2 7" got 4.1.1 ..
regarding the S4, some developers said that they might not support it but not the CM team..
It's a joke that the HTC One will be shipped with 4.1.2. Key lime pie is knocking at the door in 1 month and then 4.1.2 is so outdated. If Samsung can ship their GS4 with 4.2.2 then HTC should be able too. But I guess sense 5 is a mess and will be slowing down all updates of the Android OS. Never buy a phone with an outdated software; it will slow down the update process even more. OEMs normally don't skip OS versions. So until the HTC One will get KLP it will be next year or more typical for HTC they will release a hardware refresh in 5 months that ships with KLP. No HTC for me anymore.
This is my first smartphone (been lurking for too long) and honestly, even though there isn't a complete AOSP for AT&T yet, I'm really impressed by everyone's hard work for HOX+. I know there's a lot that can be done with the phone that I have-- and, uh, I'll probably also switch to flagship after this, I just really wanted the internal storage-- but I'm satisfied now.
I guess it's different for people who have tasted the fruit of knowledge already, though, and I can't wait to do that too
Just looked for this device on Verizons website and it said "Available Online Only" meaning two things to me. One, they are selling through their stock. Two, something is coming around the corner, soon. Any speculation? I don't see a One in our future. Maybe another DNA variant?
There have been rumors of a "DNA 2," that's about all anyone knows.
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Well I see myself with the DNA for a long while I love it!
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
EoL of the DNA at this point in time would be a bit weird.... it was release 11/2012 so idk how that would work out. There is already talks about the butterfly 2 and its said to be coming out in third qtr. As soon as that hits the market, we should see our next htc phone on verizon a month after or so.
Verizon may stop selling the device or whatever they choose. But after all the time I've referenced xda and came here I can pretty much guarantee that it is far from the eol on this and many other communities. And I highly doubt HTC will just drop it, I'm sure they saw what happened with Samsung and the s1s when they took forever to update anything.
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It would be a shame if Verizon does this but I would think they would start those corney commercials showing the phone as 99.00 down with 2year agreement or something like that - today is my last day to return I think, so I have a lot to consider
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
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I absolutely love the device. I was with Sprint for nine years and finally broke down and switched. We, up until about 3-5 years ago didn't even have a Verizon presence in our state. They still even now only have about 10% of the market here so the LTE here is outstanding. Normally running 15-30 down and the same up. Enough of the history of Verizon in our state. I just picked this phone up several weeks ago when it had that Free coupon on the net. As I said I love the hardware and the software is meh, I would rather be running sense 5 on it, but for now, it is what it is, and with a custom launcher and a few miner tweaks it good for now. I had the very first Evo on Sprint and loved it for the short time I had it. After joining the rooting community though I purchased a Nexus S, followed by a Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and a GS3 that was given to me. So I am very familiar with rooting devices and running custom everything on them. With my life story here now, my main concern is if they do end of life this phone there will not be any more devices going out so Verizon, HTC, and just the dev community will move on. Its a shame. This is a great phone. I have used the One extensively and there is little difference in the phones in the way that they run and I found it strange that everyone, or many people, in the community were pushing to see the One on Verizon. This is the One in many ways, and in several ways better. I think at this point Verizon is looking to ditch this device because of all the whoopla the One is causing and its sad. I don't plan on ditching this phone anytime in the near future either. Its just sad that this phone is so understated. Is it better than the One, no but awfully close. Is it better than the S4, in my personal opinion after spending a week with it, yes. Its definitely better than a good crop of the phones out now even with its age. I think until we hear of a new device to take its place Verizon would be smart to dump a smidge more money and re-advertise for this device dropping the price point to $150-99 on contract and breathe some life back into this device. When I went to switch over to Verizon, and I knew what I was there to get, the sales person mentioned at least three other devices that were no where near the quality of this device. So not only at the corporate level but the floor level this phone needs some love. I'm thinking its to late at this point but i am still glad I picked it up. I'm still happy with it as it is, although I am excited to get it rooted at some point, as this phone has huge potential. I'm not wanting to be the "glass is half empty" guy its just not looking promising at this point for our beloved DNA :'(
The HTC Thunderbolt got a full Android upgrade (2.3 to 4.0) over a year after Verizon stopped selling it, and the Droid Incredible got a maintainance update a few months back I believe. So even when Verizon stops selling it, it won't stop getting support for a while.
Look at what the rezound has pulled off, and in my opinion it was a great device, but nowhere near as nice as the DNA. EOL is as much a frame of mind as anything else in the development community and userbase. I still help out with rezound development and have some close friends and dev partners active so we spend a lot of sleepless nights working on software for users and tools for developers so they're able to offer more. I moved up to the DNA because I wanted too, but didn't leave the rezound behind. There's a lot of guys like me who tend to do that to help drive the spirit of android, and there's also guys who unlike me are true developers making things happen. The DNA is a really nice device and if the development and custom software minded community wants a device to thrive, it will thrive.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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Verizon Wireless: the exclusive carrier of the Galaxy Note 3.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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https://twitter.com/VZWnews/statuses/341592724161560578
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https://twitter.com/VZWnews/statuses/341592724161560578
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Wow. I wonder if that means LATER this summer like August or sooner....?
I see a lot of DNA's coming up for sale soon.. Mine included !! Depends on the retail cost though..
Definitely got to voice my opinion on this. Had the rezound for a year and a half. For how much I used it, I needed an extended battery but overall. Great device and first really high resolution phone. I just got my DNA and love it. The rezound was lagging since the last update.
I think Verizon dropped the ball on the one. They are putting it out almost 5-6 months after its initial release. That's atrocious. As phone connoisseurs we all know something new will be out soon after that anyway.
I'm sticking with my DNA. I don't see the development dying down after moonshine is released. The one has some small upgrades (most are portable thanks to the people here). And screen size downgrade.
I'll wait for the next nice HTC device to upgrade.
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Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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I only say its stupid, which is probably not the right word, but its because they're placing a phone out months after its alternate carrier releases, meaning it'll be an older device releasing against newer devices, seems to counter what is normally done, release newer devices against newer devices. I thought I made that point clear, but maybe not, the joke with the gs7 or whatever must not have been clear enough.
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These "carrier updates" are just getting ridiculous...
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This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2 but I highly doubt it goes past that,
HTC and Samsung have completely flipped stances on updates over the last 3 years and it is now HTC who gives their devices 6 month lifespans.
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This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2 but I highly doubt it goes past that,
HTC and Samsung have completely flipped stances on updates over the last 3 years and it is now HTC who gives their devices 6 month lifespans.
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this phone will be getting 4.2.2 for sure. HTC and llabtoofer confirmed. probably nothing official after that, but i think we'll see dev support for a long time with this phone. its pretty solid
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this phone will be getting 4.2.2 for sure. HTC and llabtoofer confirmed. probably nothing official after that, but i think we'll see dev support for a long time with this phone. its pretty solid
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Verizon seems to be putting all their support into Motorola, Samsung, and Apple.
I'll be shocked if we get 4.2.2 officially before the year ends.... if ever.
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Verizon seems to be putting all their support into Motorola, Samsung, and Apple.
I'll be shocked if we get 4.2.2 officially before the year ends.... if ever.
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its already confirmed. besides, after the verizon one comes out in august, we'll have a CDMA port of 4.2.2 anyway, so it wont even matter much
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its already confirmed. besides, after the verizon one comes out in august, we'll have a CDMA port of 4.2.2 anyway, so it wont even matter much
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Yea we will have a freshly baked cdma ril for our sense 5 ports. Yum
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so as the One gets updates, we can get ported updates for our DNAs as well?
I highly doubt they'll even consider updating this phone before the One gets 4.2.2/the One hype train dies down. At least a month after release I'd say.
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I highly doubt they'll even consider updating this phone before the One gets 4.2.2/the One hype train dies down. At least a month after release I'd say.
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It's really a shame that HTC has decided to never stand behind their devices and are on the verge of chapter 11 due to to it.
The 2 year old Galaxy S II is expected to get android 4.2.2 by the end of summer... possibly before the HTC One. The HTC phone that came out the same year as the GS2 was the Sensation and HTC left it dead on 4.0.3 ICS.
I will not buy another HTC device even though I have only had HTC's since the G1. I'm not sure if I want to go Samsung but I may not have a choice.
HTC should just get out of android and sign a Nokia like deal to make Windows junk.
It's half HTC, half Verizon... The butterfly (international version of our phones) got 4.2.2 with Sense 5! So there's hope. At the least someone figures out how to get it working on CDMA and we can flash it. Honestly all I want is ASOP 4.3. No bugs. I'll be content. Until 5.0 comes out seriously though. I'd rather get an iPhone over any Samsung phone. Then my phone will actually have good build quality. And I'd get updates when they're released. And I'd be extremely limited and forced to join the Apple cult... Oh the struggles. :banghead:
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It's really a shame that HTC has decided to never stand behind their devices and are on the verge of chapter 11 due to to it.
The 2 year old Galaxy S II is expected to get android 4.2.2 by the end of summer... possibly before the HTC One. The HTC phone that came out the same year as the GS2 was the Sensation and HTC left it dead on 4.0.3 ICS.
I will not buy another HTC device even though I have only had HTC's since the G1. I'm not sure if I want to go Samsung but I may not have a choice.
HTC should just get out of android and sign a Nokia like deal to make Windows junk.
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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That would be true if it weren't for the fact that other phones have seen long support on Verizon and other carriers. Don't have to look further than the Droid Bionic/RAZR to see that. Both shipped with 2.3 and have had 4.1 for quite some time now. Meanwhile, both the Incredible 4G and Rezound haven't gotten past ICS in around the same timeframe. The DNA is the last HTC I buy while I'm on Verizon, if it weren't for the fact that I'm S-Off and we have a great DEV community, I'd be out in a second.
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Honestly all I want is ASOP 4.3. No bugs. I'll be content.
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Oh is that all, not hard to please, are you?
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Oh is that all, not hard to please, are you?
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Well if they did that we wouldn't see another update at all, we aren't the high quality handset anymore.
It isn't Google's fault for how android gets distributed, it's carrier and manufacturer. I'd take development of custom roms and kernels over a single device being updated faster. To me that's just another ios device. If instant updates are a requirement then really only choices are nexus devices.
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Apple has lost almost 50% of there stock value for that reason 1 device only. I will take the top notch devs we have over a free apple device any day. These guys kick ass. Thanks DNA DEVS.
I love our devs and more the better. The thing is there is so many devices not all can be supported. I mean the DNA isn't officially supported by CM or AOKP. The less fragmentation the better. And that Apple company that lost their stock? We'll they're the most profitable company in America. I hate their policies and their OS, but they offer timely updates, and a high quality device. Why? Because their billion dollar R&D budget goes to one phone. Not 17...
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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Your post got me thinking...
How are the new upgrade programs these carriers offer going to effect android? Since you can upgrade every 6 months now will we even see updates at all?
Maybe it forces google to use motorola and lock down android.
Verizon won't update this phone. If they do then you have less of a reason to jump on the newer phones.
And to those confirmed rumors... The Rezound was confirmed JB as well. How'd that go?
If you want updates, leave Verizon and get a Nexus. Otherwise be happy with what you get from our community devs.
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I love our devs and more the better. The thing is there is so many devices not all can be supported. I mean the DNA isn't officially supported by CM or AOKP. The less fragmentation the better. And that Apple company that lost their stock? We'll they're the most profitable company in America. I hate their policies and their OS, but they offer timely updates, and a high quality device. Why? Because their billion dollar R&D budget goes to one phone. Not 17...
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Then go buy an iPhone. And u read the journal, they used to be the most profitable. The reason they are not is because they are a 1pony show. All the tech people are saying they are going down because of all the good android phones.