Dear friends,
I really wanted to. I had so much hope for this device, but I can no longer do it. I love aosp and absolutely loathe sense. That being said for some reason I love HTC. They make beautiful, sexy, durable, powerful and for the most part, reasonably priced. But it seems to me that the salad days are behind me. I've had the aria, hero, touch pro, evo, HD, inspire, incredible, vivid, one x, and lastly the x+. But my last few haven't impressed and so here we are. As of last night I sold my x+, hugged my pillow, and cried myself to sleep. The latest set back was finally just to much for me after a long series of disappointments on other devices. I am using the money to buy an N4 and most likely will stick with the flagship on down the line. I plan to start learning as much as possible to help solve issues like this in the future. I say good bye and thank you to a great community and impressive company for now, its been an awesome ride.
Greatest regards,
Meatwad0222
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Did exactly the same last week
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That's a sad thread... should probably be ranamed as a "Farewell Thread"
But there is no way of happiness here, really... I was always with HTC, comming from HTC Touch Dual which was fun these days. Then my favourite HTC HD2. I was really crying when I sold it a few month ago... but sh.. I sold it for 200 bucks, and that was a price in january this year. Now I got mine HTC One X+. No trouble with a device it works, it works good, but I had more fun with my HD2 than what I have now. Want to say thanks for every dev, every member and every noob in HTC Community. That was good times. But HTC is dissapointing me, dissapointing me so much, that all my hate for Samsung has gone now and I'm switching to S4 in some time. But untill that, my heart still belongs to HTC... don't know for how long.
Same here. I gave my daughter my hox+ and downgraded to her S2 just so I could run CM again. I'll keep the S2 until the Motorola Google X is released. I too plan to stay with Google's flagship device from now on (whoever makes it). Thanks for everyone's help with hox+ related issues and questions.
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This reminds me of the farewell posts back in the Windows Mobile days. I got this phone in December, and it still has the stock ROM on it. None of the ROM's here really inspire me. This is coming from someone who went through the wire trick on the Sensation XE so I could load custom ROM's on it. Maybe I am just getting lazy, but looking for something different.
I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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It's not that there's something wrong with them, how would I know as I've not even flashed one, right? I used to love flashing ROMs, but now I guess I don't find it all that exciting anymore. I am on the International version of the HOX+ so which ROM would you recommend?
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I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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At&t
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meatwad0222 said:
Dear friends,
I really wanted to. I had so much hope for this device, but I can no longer do it. I love aosp and absolutely loathe sense.
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There will be CM for AT&T sooner than later though right? If sense is your only issue may as well stick it out
Patience doesn't hurt much. I've got plenty of other things to keep my attention, and I still have my Inspire to play with AOSP for now. Lloir has put a lot into this device so far, and even if not at full capacity he's said he plans to keep it going. Some calls for assistance have been sent out to other devs as well, I hear. And some of the names I've heard mention of are quite talented.
It's just a matter of time, and I think this device will be pretty great once it's got some AOSP love in it. I've had the device since November, and running Elegancia with the Nova launcher it's already quite good. I don't like sense as much as AOSP but Elegancia has been great so far. Great ROM, great dev. Besides I can't go saying there isn't enough dev work going into the device if I haven't taken the time to learn to dev myself.
Stock Sense 4 is well done imho. I was also a flashaholic on previous Android builds but now I am not completely, but pretty satisfied with the stock version that is on the device. Maybe it is because JB is more primetime than any other Android build of past?
I'm too leaving HTC after being an HTC fan for a long time... HTC is focusing and spending a lot of time on locking down their devices than actually releasing software updates.. They could've spent this time on finding a way to make their devices brick proof rather than locking it down. Their idea of updating software is releasing a new phone just like they did with the HOX and HOX+..
HTC one looks like a great device, however why the release it with android 4.1.2??? So they can release HTC one+ a few months later with android 4.2.2??
I used to hate Samsung as they make plastic and cheap looking devices but I've come to respect them as they don't abandon their devices and kept supporting them to the last minute... S3 is getting 4.2.2 soon while HOX+ still stuck at 4.1.1!! Samsung s2 is getting jelly bean!! While desire Hd didn't get ics!
I'm joining the boat and ditching HTC for good
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for what it's worth, S3 has been out for a lot longer. HOX+ is still pretty young. and lack of updates has more to do with lazy carriers than manufacturers typically. But I mean, go wherever you're happy going.
interesting to hear people willing to leave htc products behind, I've come from a long line of samsung phones when I jumped ship back in the desireHD days. Having tried the sony xperia z for a couple of weeks I was glad to be offered the one+ in exchange. I've missed the htc build quality
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interesting to hear people willing to leave htc products behind, I've come from a long line of samsung phones when I jumped ship back in the desireHD days. Having tried the sony xperia z for a couple of weeks I was glad to be offered the one+ in exchange. I've missed the htc build quality
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I think the hox+ is suffering from a timing issue. All of the devs upgraded to the hox after the desireHD/inspire and then htc released the + too soon. Bring on the Motorola X.
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So many great comments here. I'm on the verge of jumping ship to the new S4. As you can see from my sig, I've been exclusively with HTC for some time now, and I realllly like the x+. It's really a sleek and beautiful phone, I hate using a case but its cheap insurance. Also, for once I really don't mind the stock ROM, just had to flash the available mods and now I'm content. HTC has always treated me well, sending me new batteries and chargers even out of warranty without giving me a hard time. But alas, this dropping new and better phones every few months is really annoying. Its like they purposly hold back so they can realse something "better". If they were smart they would've made s-off easier, gave it 2gigs, and put efforts into upgrading to 4.2.2 and make the hox+ the flagship for about a year. After reading the specs of the next ONE, I'm not impressed at all, its a downgrade in memory and camera. WHY? This day in age 64gigs or an SD slot on a high end device should be the standard, and even if the 4 megapixel camera is better IRL, on paper it sounds like poop. Honestly though I can't see the camera being any better, especially if you installed the 4.2 camera app from the mod section. This phones cameras is as good or better then my Kodak 18magepix point and shoot. HTC, quit playing games. Make one kick #$% phone, upgrade it when needed, and let it rock out for about a year, stop holing back so you can realse something "better" two months later.
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HTC is focusing and spending a lot of time on locking down their devices than actually releasing software updates..
S3 is getting 4.2.2 soon while HOX+ still stuck at 4.1.1!! Samsung s2 is getting jelly bean!! While desire Hd didn't get ics!
I'm joining the boat and ditching HTC for good
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All carriers lock down their devices, HTC unlocks bootloaders like other OEM's via a site, what else do u need to customize your device? S-off? Unneeded.
S2 is only getting in release cos it sold a boat load of phones so of course sammy will update it to keep the peace, sensation got nowhere near the sales to warrent it in all honesty.
Sammy also doesn't update its tablets or non flagship devices, they rarely if any see updates to next android versions.
The sg4 also won't be getting official AOSP according to cyanogen mod devs as Sammy never outs the source code for yrs. Sg3 was lucky to get support.
The official news is that all current HTC devices including HOS will be getting sense 5 which will be 4.2.2 on release, at which point ill be using Aokp klp on my HOX+.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...heading-for-the-HTC-One-X-this-Summer_id41376
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All carriers lock down their devices, HTC unlocks bootloaders like other OEM's via a site, what else do u need to customize your device? S-off? Unneeded.
S2 is only getting in release cos it sold a boat load of phones so of course sammy will update it to keep the peace, sensation got nowhere near the sales to warrent it in all honesty.
Sammy also doesn't update its tablets or non flagship devices, they rarely if any see updates to next android versions.
The sg4 also won't be getting official AOSP according to cyanogen mod devs as Sammy never outs the source code for yrs. Sg3 was lucky to get support.
The official news is that all current HTC devices including HOS will be getting sense 5 which will be 4.2.2 on release, at which point ill be using Aokp klp on my HOX+.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...heading-for-the-HTC-One-X-this-Summer_id41376
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I'm not talking about carriers as I always buy international unlocked phones.. s-off is really need to be able to flash from within the device and don't have to use a pc to do so. so bootloader unlock still a limited way to open up the device.
the sensation didn't do well because it had many problems and i have owned one before and hated it .. HTC tried to fix it by releasing the XL and still the same...
HTC has said that it will release sense 5 alone with 4.2.2 but let's be honest the release of the update will take ages to see the light, because HTC ONE has android 4.1.2 so other devices won't see any updates till HTC ONE gets 4.2.2 and then maybe after a few months they will release it.. and I won't be too surprised if HTC releases HTC ONE+ to fix issues on the original one and introduce new issues as well.
i just bought Galaxy Note 10.1 and in a matter of months it got jelly bean 4.1.1 and then 4.1.2 .. also tab2 10.1 got 4.1.2 and tab2 7" got 4.1.1 ..
regarding the S4, some developers said that they might not support it but not the CM team..
It's a joke that the HTC One will be shipped with 4.1.2. Key lime pie is knocking at the door in 1 month and then 4.1.2 is so outdated. If Samsung can ship their GS4 with 4.2.2 then HTC should be able too. But I guess sense 5 is a mess and will be slowing down all updates of the Android OS. Never buy a phone with an outdated software; it will slow down the update process even more. OEMs normally don't skip OS versions. So until the HTC One will get KLP it will be next year or more typical for HTC they will release a hardware refresh in 5 months that ships with KLP. No HTC for me anymore.
This is my first smartphone (been lurking for too long) and honestly, even though there isn't a complete AOSP for AT&T yet, I'm really impressed by everyone's hard work for HOX+. I know there's a lot that can be done with the phone that I have-- and, uh, I'll probably also switch to flagship after this, I just really wanted the internal storage-- but I'm satisfied now.
I guess it's different for people who have tasted the fruit of knowledge already, though, and I can't wait to do that too
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Hello everyone!
Please see the link below which confirms our agony! HTC is dead to me!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/22/htc-ics-android-updates/
Never buying HTC ever again.
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
thats a stupid move....on both the jetstream (which was very expensive) and the flyer (which was very popular after the price cut)
damn it.
at least we got an answer.
never touching HTC again after this.
Also, now is the time to put some money to our ICS bounty...since it is the last hope for this device.
guru_shastri said:
damn it.
at least we got an answer.
never touching HTC again after this.
Also, now is the time to put some money to our ICS bounty...since it is the last hope for this device.
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Not to rain on our already rainy parade, but that's not much of a hope. With Honeycomb being closed source, and everything HTC (except the kernel) being closed source, there's pretty much zero chance this device will ever see ICS.
I love my One X, but I really wish I could go back in time and get a Galaxy Tab.
I am very dissapointed. I was bought my jetstream off contract from at&t last october 910usd include taxes and unlock. Very very expensive. And no update? HTC is a shame!!! Today I got my galaxy tab 2 p3100 which has 4.0.3 factory loaded. Great speed and usage. Dual core processor and lot of memory. And cost me 350usd factory unlocked. So thats what I call money steal.
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we are the biggest suckers of the android world...
But - for the right amount of money we just might be able to recruit a developer to release us from the htc choke hold.
And also, russ said he's working to get htc to cooperate with him on building a rom for us.here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651651
There is still a tiny shred of hope.
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Not to rain on our already rainy parade, but that's not much of a hope. With Honeycomb being closed source, and everything HTC (except the kernel) being closed source, there's pretty much zero chance this device will ever see ICS.
I love my One X, but I really wish I could go back in time and get a Galaxy Tab.
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why is honeycomb closed source? the source was released the same day ICS source was released. HTC sense for tablets i don't know about the source but for phones it is fairly open + its not like htc are done with tablets for good. when the next bunch come out im sure someone will port something over for you
wish the jetstream came to the UK but thats a long gone wish
I dont understand why HTC will not update the rom. I will be happy for honeycomb update too. Honeycomb 3.2 update and sense update will be greathful. Why want htc to kill this good tablet.
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HTC really should release an update. i'd say more yet....... you know.
just cause a riot on their facebook page like the desire owners did with gingerbread...making htc retract their statement
there's not enough of us.
every post here gets hundreds of views but no one seems to actually respond..IDK if its because they don't own a jetstream or just won't help
there's not enough of us.
every post here gets hundreds of views but no one seems to actually respond..IDK if its because they don't own a jetstream or just won't help
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Agreed. Been away for a week and I return to see not much improvement with the bounty or anything else. There is still always hope..
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Jumping ship as they say...it's a shame and there will be a ripple effect.
From a hardware perspective it is still an incredible device. It is truly a shame that HTC has pulled the plug on it and is washing it's hands of what were very likely highly committed HTC users. It was a premium device with a premium price and devoted HTC fans were confident it was a worthy purchase. Although the device did not see extensive penetration, the customers the company will lose as a result (including myself) were valuable voices in the marketplace as champions of the company among other consumers. Though small, there will be a ripple effect. People look to their tech savvy friends and family members for buying advice and I am certainly sharing my experiences openly and honestly.
I have always previously trusted HTC to keep capable devices relevant. Unfortunately, the Jetstream's honeycomb software seemed like an interim OS until HTC had time to get 4.0 up and running. HTC Sense on the Jetstream experiences frequent reboots, the pen gets laggy, the stock notes app hangs up and fails to recognize pen movement at times and the device certainly does not run like it should with this hardware....the processor could still hang with the best of them if it was properly supported.
The HTC One X was going to be my next phone. I've been a fan of the company since it's Windows Mobile days. This experience both from a device standpoint under the current software and the lack of commitment from the company to adequately support the device moving forward (which in my humble opinion includes ICS support) has me waiting for the GS III or other flagship device. Jumping ship as they say.
Jetstream upgrade project
Hi,
I would really like to upgrade my HTC Jetstream, I would like to start an upgrade project for this lovely tablet, I have $150 bucks to make the upgrade project interesting for our fantastic developers. Any other support?
thank you.
Chris
Why is the dev community for this device so small??
Is it because its only been released in november or because its not selling well and not a lot of people are buying it???
what you guy's think?
the dev community for the original one x its really big and I bought this device thinking it will be big too ))
djsynth said:
Why is the dev community for this device so small??
Is it because its only been released in november or because its not selling well and not allow of people are buying it???
what you guy's think?
the dev community for the original one x its really biig and I bought this device thinking it will be big too ))
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too high price compared to what it offers compared to the HOX
I would have actually never bought it without some nice people
giving donations to me
maxwen said:
too high price compared to what it offers compared to the HOX
I would have actually never bought it without some nice people
giving donations to me
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I see... what a shame... i believe this to be a substantial improvement over the one x hence why I went for it.. just that I've had the phone for 5 days and I feel like I bought a phone that's been released 2 weeks ago instead of 2 and a half month's ago since I feel the development community/user base is so ridiculously small for such a high end amazing (in my personal opinion) device
do you reckon the user base will rapidly grow ??
djsynth said:
I feel the development community/user base is so ridiculously small for such a high end amazing (in my personal opinion) device
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Well size does not always matter as you might know
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Well size does not always matter as you might know
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Some times there are exceptions lol the bigger the userbase the quicker bugs get reported and fixed and the more stable roms become also the more people own the device the more developers start developing for this device and the more choice we get in terms of mods, tweaks, roms
The international device has cm10,aokp,aosp and ****loads of sense based roms. Personally I think it's enough.
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The international device has cm10,aokp,aosp and ****loads of sense based roms. Personally I think it's enough.
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nah it needs more
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nah it needs more
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The international device has cm10,aokp,aosp and ****loads of sense based roms. Personally I think it's enough.
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It needs more choice mate, there's like 10 roms on the internation version of the phone, 5 sense and 5 non sense roms and that's it, sure we got the main ones but compared to other devices such as the gs3 and htc one x this is nothing lol we ESPECIALLY need more mods and themes for our device as you can barely find any especially on any sense roms
First of all, for this was one ''fast buying'' when i bought this phone - i didnt rly do a research about it.. most important - didnt check xda.
So when i came here, i was suprised in a bad way - such small community and quite low activity in dev section. ( i came from old good desire, where even after 2+ years its still active deving there).
I even considered to change my new HOX+ to regular HOX or even GS3, but after all for various reasons i stayed with HOX+... i must say i love it!
The thing is i personally love it even as stock... don't get me wrong - i could call my self flashomanic, i flashed my old dersire serval times in a week, even in day sometimes, but on HOX+ at the moment i don't see the need.
So i cant be the only one who don't yet see the need to start flashing... Phone is new and we haven't got bored with stock yet. In time it will grow, but i dont think that as big as hox orginal. But will see...
Well that's my opinion.
I'm still hoping that one day all roms will be compatible with both versions of the x+ via aroma, that way the community isn't split and everyone gets twice as many devs.
probably will never happen though
Seriously still very early days, if u want to see small comunities check the xperia threads which took months to release only a few roms each. Can take 6 months for a community to grow not a couple of months...
Of course the desire grand daddy of android phones, sgs3 and hox have a huge threads, they been out for yrs and still have huge followings.
The LG optimus 2x took a yr to get to where it is even now, and its now huge.
Very very early days... And we have heaps of great roms already.
Redundant thread.
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Yeah, some communities are huge and not to mention OLD. Check this friggin' BEAST that apparently refuses to die. The community there is alive and kicking. I still have the damned thing staring at me, growling, after all these years lol I've flashed it so many times I'm surprised it's still holding together
This dev community is great, we have awesome roms and kernels...period
My 2 cents.. :victory: Samsung hurt this phone. THe GS3 came out shortly after the original One X. The original one X was a nice technology leap for phones and since it was released a few weeks earlier than the GS3 it got a bunch of the community. The GS3 got the majority of it though. a lot of people were eligible for upgrades from their single/dual core phones. This Hox+ is a great phone but not so much better than the GS3, or OG hox for that matter, that it's worth it to pay early termination or buy the phone full price. I think its just a timing issue mostly as well as no new groundbreaking features. Doesnt help that i havent seen even one HOX+ commercial on TV but i see hundreds of GS3 commercials.:crying:
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Can take 6 months for a community to grow not a couple of months...
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I betcha specific phone threads dont do a whole heck of a lot of growing after 6 months.. Certainly some exceptions, you listed a few. I'm talking more about phones with nothing new to offer over phones already on the market.(like Hox+) There's Way to many newer better stronger faster phones available to choose from after a 6 month period for a dev. It may grow some from regular joes but Devs are probably on the decline (as far as new devs) after 6 months :good: Unless its a real solid phone and they start selling it for $50-$100. Dev community would grow then :silly:
lloir has done a great job with aosp for this device (many other htc devices should be so lucky)
turge has now brought viper rom to the att version, and m0narx will for intl
idk, to me as a user id feel pretty lucky with whats available now and coming soon...given that its a really small userbase
There is some great work done on this device all ready. Some big roms in the works as well. Don't the International device was only released if I am right on the 22nd of October so it is a very new device. People have not had time to get there hands on it.
Personally I am very happy I went for this over the One X. It is an amazing phone!
Not to mention we have great custom kernels for both sense and non-sense
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No need to whine. You have a nice bunch of choices yet on this phone. Having said that, I think One X+ will never get the popularity of One X.
You have to think in terms of cycles. A big number of HTC Devs switched from Desire HD to One X or to Sensation and from Sensation to One X. Always about a year. So many of them have no reason at all to switch to One X+, especially as the next generation will already be here in late spring/early summer (which will be around a year then again since One X).
When HTC starts pushing out updates that screw up the phone (ala the Inspire) the dev activity will pick up.
We have insert coin, arhd, ordroid, some great aokp/aosp development going on and venom att. (Venom intl is around the corner)
Add to that some great kernel development already in place.
We already have in place a great development choice.
Quality matters more than quantity.
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Would a JB OTA from HTC/VZW would help progress? Not holding my breath.. Asked HTC on FB:
"We’re still reviewing our devices to see which phones are the best candidates to upgrade to Jelly Bean. We’ll prioritize most recent devices first and go from there. Thank you for your patience. See http://s.htc.com/Wj0G08 for more details."
Looks like there is a chance since the Rezound has more than 512MB of RAM. Seems they are only upgrading phones with more than 512MB of RAM. I know the latest Sense won't work on the Rezound and don't really care about that. Only interest in this is further progressing our JB AOSP ROMS.
This device will never see official JB. Plus it would take ages for them to release kernel source.. When that happens it'll probably be RIP Rezound.
They said our devices can't run sense 4.. Obviously it can. Even if htc put out jb updates, Verizon wouldn't allow it because then you wouldn't buy a new phone
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They said our devices can't run sense 4.. Obviously it can. Even if htc put out jb updates, Verizon wouldn't allow it because then you wouldn't buy a new phone
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The tbolt has a sense 4 custom room that works fine. Should work on the rezound given the much better specs.
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Would a JB OTA from HTC/VZW would help progress? Not holding my breath.. Asked HTC on FB:
"We’re still reviewing our devices to see which phones are the best candidates to upgrade to Jelly Bean. We’ll prioritize most recent devices first and go from there. Thank you for your patience. See http://s.htc.com/Wj0G08 for more details."
Looks like there is a chance since the Rezound has more than 512MB of RAM. Seems they are only upgrading phones with more than 512MB of RAM. I know the latest Sense won't work on the Rezound and don't really care about that. Only interest in this is further progressing our JB AOSP ROMS.
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the chances of us getting jellybean are slim but it might happen. if they updated the tbolt after so many months being dormant. i see hope for us.
synisterwolf said:
the chances of us getting jellybean are slim but it might happen. if they updated the tbolt after so many months being dormant. i see hope for us.
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I'm getting the one when it comes to the US. But I'll keep my Rezound just for a wifi device for when/if it gets updated
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This device will never see official JB. Plus it would take ages for them to release kernel source.. When that happens it'll probably be RIP Rezound.
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I'll still have mine. <3
Sense 4 runs on our device but I assume not every feature works as intended. I don't think jellybean is going to come officially.
They would much rather put the man power on what makes them more money rather than what did make them money. Not only that but the Rezound wasn't that well received.
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I just sent an e-mail, again, today, and they state that they are still reviewing devices for the update.
Probably not happening, but possibly.
The original RAZR line just got JB today, and removed most of the Moto bloat, in a surprise turn. I wish HTC was that nice to us.
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The original RAZR line just got JB today, and removed most of the Moto bloat, in a surprise turn. I wish HTC was that nice to us.
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Definitely a little irritating to read that a phone from the same generation as ours has an official JB release.
On a side note, thank you devs for picking up where HTC refuses to go.
It's not going to happen, sorry. HTC one X just got android 4.1 this week. Poor DROID incredible 2 folks are still waiting on ics.
Go look at the aosp roms in the rezound original development thread. I am running infection, which is based on android 4.2.2, at this very moment.
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Im done with HTC.
Razr was released 3 days after rezound and it's getting JB.
I was thrilled when I moved from t-mob to verizon, The Rezound was like my old Sensation's big brother. After my GFs Razr getting JB dropped on it last night - kinda upsets me. I don't know who to blame. HTC, or Verizon - Either way, This is my last HTC device. Love the hardware, hate the post purchase software support.
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Im done with HTC.
Razr was released 3 days after rezound and it's getting JB.
I was thrilled when I moved from t-mob to verizon, The Rezound was like my old Sensation's big brother. After my GFs Razr getting JB dropped on it last night - kinda upsets me. I don't know who to blame. HTC, or Verizon - Either way, This is my last HTC device. Love the hardware, hate the post purchase software support.
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I know it's an old topic & i'm not giving it the ol' dirty bump for no reason.
I emailed Verizon about the Razr getting JB and politely expressed my dissatisfaction with the Rezound being left behind. This was my answer.
So far your phone is up to date with the latest software approved by HTC and we have not yet been informed of any further updates. It's great that you have kept it up to date, it's the best way to make sure your phone is working well. I would advise to contact your phone manufacturer to see if they have any additional information on potential upcoming patches. HTC can be reached by dialing 866-449-8358.
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Guess they consider the Global Leak the 'most up to date' - cause that's what i'm running. haha.
i'm still done with HTC.
This Rez is most likely my last HTC too, until locked batteries last 2 days & cloud storage truly renders SD cards useless.
Did Verizon know you were referring to the RUU when you were talking about being up-to-date? Hehe.
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Like I said over at the BAMF forum; it's too bad because this phone never had its full potential realized. Quite frankly to me it would seem like this phone could handle the latest version of android with the latest version of sense with no problem, but c'est la vie, you cant win them all
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To sum this up Im done with htc as well.
If all these manufactures can update phones that were release the same time the rezound why cant htc?
granted we finaly got ics but lets see the razor had gingerbread to ics to jelly bean.
Saying that I feel like the build quality and hardware on this phone is amazing, from the gps insta lock to solid radios someone at htc knows what there doing in that department. Unfortunately whoever designs the power system really needs to check there calculations on battery size maybe move a decimal point or probably forgot a negative i don't know i mean a 1600 mah battery for a smartphone my dumb phone had a battery that large.
I do see why they haven't updated the rezound it didn't sell well and the device was only available on verizon(not a huge market share around the globe). They also wont make any money updating a device. I would think customer loyalty would be enough incentive to keep up on a device at least for two years. In my views it would make them money in the future because I would by another htc device again but since its so easy for them to abandon a device kinda make me wonder if they will do it again and I'm not willing to stake a 2 year contract on that. I've seen many manufacturers step up to the plate and keep old devices up to date.
So far I like the direction most manufacturers are going such as the galaxy s4(still has removable/large battery and sd card slot) and Motorola maxx phones. They plan on updated the galaxy s2 to 4.2.2 and that phone is older than the rezound. Also if I can get 2 days on a phone that would be awesome I would be willing to part with a removable battery.
Htc has been lacking in three key areas on all there devices. Low capacity non removable batteries, no sd cardslot/or large capacity memory on verizon phones, no updates for older devices. It seems like htc doesn't really get what will really help sell phones. To me there priority is looks and putting a glossy finish on the ui, they dont bother in key areas such as battery life and updates which actual matter to me. (they do a good job in radios and gps stuff). To me it seems like there basing their phones on iphones. If I wanted a phone like an iphone no sd card, no hdmi out, non removable battery I would buy an iphone. I want an android phone that fills these needs.
At this point my next device will be Samsung or Motorola(because they have solid radios and biggest battery for a mobile phone) I did have a bad experience with the droid charge which kinda turned me off from Samsung phones but the s3 is a huge improvement and nice device.
Main reason I've stayed with this device so long is the amazing devs that have help make this the device it should be. (thank you devs)
So to end untill htc makes a phone that last all day on heavy usage and decides to support a device for 2 years I will not be a customer.
I challenge htc to make me eat my words!!!
Hell if google can update their nexus phones even the older ones. Why cant htc and all the other phone manufacturers do the same. It's safe to say google has a lot more on their plates than the other manufacturers. Why my next phone will be a nexus. I love my n7.
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Hell if google can update their nexus phones even the older ones. Why cant htc and all the other phone manufacturers do the same. It's safe to say google has a lot more on their plates than the other manufacturers. Why my next phone will be a nexus. I love my n7.
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Carrier testing. Carrier approvals. Ignoring older devices in lieu of new devices that could earn more, new money. That's why the Galaxy Nexus on VZW a flop, imo. Too much regulation - especially when features such as Google Wallet are blocked.
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You got that right Verizon really tied Google's hands on that phone. Doubt there will be another nexus device on Verizon for quite awhile.
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WOW!
At least samsung has made the effort to get JB to S2....
It's no wonder that allot of us are feeling the sting of no JB on the rezound...
Lego
Even worse they got a leak one or twice a month.
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I think even worse is the fact the Droid Bionic is suppose to be getting JB. Wow.
It's because the S2 was Samsung's flagship.. The Rezound is HTC's redheaded stepchild on VZW. Simple enough?
Motorola and Samsung are both updating phone over a year older than the Rezound and HTC is wondering why they are losing more and more customers cause instead of updating phones they are making you buy new phones to get the next operating system. I won't be getting the Next HTC phone for Verizon I am hoping the Google/Motorola phone is real cause that is the route I wanna go.
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Motorola and Samsung are both updating phone over a year older than the Rezound and HTC is wondering why they are losing more and more customers cause instead of updating phones they are making you buy new phones to get the next operating system. I won't be getting the Next HTC phone for Verizon I am hoping the Google/Motorola phone is real cause that is the route I wanna go.
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Ya, I really want the HTC one, but I just can't do it after their lack of support for the rezound.
If the one isn't as big as they need it to be,they will move on quickly to another device. They can't afford to support more than one device at a time I don't think.
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SII is getting 4.2 as well. Always get Samsung for good support. Even Ace II is getting 4.2. HTC are terrible on support. Samsung or Google Nexus are the best for updates
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I remember a time when Samsung really wasn't that good with updates, boy have times changed. I am close to wanting to drop the Rezound for the Maxx HD, just for the better battery life and better update support(at least so it seems), but the screen and size of the Rezound really has me(it's pretty much the only HD screen on a 4.3in device). HTC is really testing our patients I think.
I was just saying this the other day... Joke's on us I guess. Should have just dealt with moto or samsung and not had the best phone out to get updates. HTC makes beautiful phones but I'm kind of sick of sense and no/really slow updates. I don't see why they don't give us sense 4 and jb. If they did I might change my mind. But we don't even have the latest ICS and sense 3.6 or w/e is worse than 3.5 imo lol. I feel basically forced to get a GS4 even if I didn't sort of want one.. At least I know it will be supported for a couple of years or more. Samsung used to have a bad track record too, now HTCs is even worse than Samsungs was.
Support? We don't need no stinkin' support.
We have great dev's here, like Snuzzo, iHWO, shrike, and Neo just to name a few. A development community even a quarter as good as this one would still be far better than any manufacturer support, save Nexus devices for obvious reasons (and even then, if you're tied to a carrier you're screwed for OTA).
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Support? We don't need no stinkin' support.
We have great dev's here, like Snuzzo, iHWO, shrike, and Neo just to name a few. A development community even a quarter as good as this one would still be far better than any manufacturer support, save Nexus devices for obvious reasons (and even then, if you're tied to a carrier you're screwed for OTA).
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I'm not saying our devs aren't great. But if we had jelly bean from HTC imagine how tits everything would be then... And it would have saved everyone a ton of work just to get something to boot. But no... HTC gnf.
Edit: or even a better sense ICS update for that matter, Smh lol
I agree that HTC needs to support its past phones, a Dev community is only as good as leaks or full releases from the company itself. CM is bad ass cause goggle releases the code and the Dev add or take away things that they like. But as far as giving us Jelly bean on the Rezound with everything working would still take help from HTC. As you can see by the stand still in the development section progress stands still without leaks, OTAs and most important the code itself from HTC. Unless having less phones will give them time to concentrate on updating past phones I don't think HTC will update the Rezound any further. I am hoping July will be the month I upgrade to the Xphone if its real but we'll find that in May hopefully
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A high end nexus for Verizon would be a dream come true. Even if verizon didn't sell it directly
I have a Rezound and a RAZR. With the 4.1.2 update for the RAZR it only seemed to perform slightly faster then the Rezound with 4.0.3
Even so, I still don't really use the RAZR for much of anything at all(it's just a backup phone).
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Support? We don't need no stinkin' support.
We have great dev's here, like Snuzzo, iHWO, shrike, and Neo just to name a few. A development community even a quarter as good as this one would still be far better than any manufacturer support, save Nexus devices for obvious reasons (and even then, if you're tied to a carrier you're screwed for OTA).
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Don't forget Chad. I wouldn't even have jumped into the game if it hadn't been for his AOSP RIL.
JB + sense4 for my rezound will be my wishlist
since evo LTE and droid DNA will get sense5
Once my upgrade is here - I'm gone off the Rezound! I have a company iPhone 5 and honestly the battery way outperforms all HTC phones I've owned. Here's to hoping the GS4 has great battery!
An HTC rep shared this article because it says what he can't say. I think there's a lot of truth in it. At least the points logic out well to me.
My opinion is Verizon makes decisions about updates based on what is selling best and Sammy is selling like hotcakes, so they are showing all kinds of love to Samsung. Motorola sucks but they are Googles kid, so they get love. HTC killed themselves by spending too much time being quietly brilliant and making 35 different models. If they kept it simple and spent some money on TV ads, it might have been different... Still might, time will tell.
http://ukmobilesupport.co.uk/why-android-updates-are-so-slow/
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sooo....besides the risk of info being leaked....y doesnt google release the code to Samsung, HTC, ect, have it all tested...and have everything ready to be deployed and THEN announce the new update like Apple?
We get leaks usually though when manufacturers finish their updates... Even those leaks are really slow or never show up. So I'm still blaming manufacturers. Lol
These "carrier updates" are just getting ridiculous...
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This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2 but I highly doubt it goes past that,
HTC and Samsung have completely flipped stances on updates over the last 3 years and it is now HTC who gives their devices 6 month lifespans.
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This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2 but I highly doubt it goes past that,
HTC and Samsung have completely flipped stances on updates over the last 3 years and it is now HTC who gives their devices 6 month lifespans.
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this phone will be getting 4.2.2 for sure. HTC and llabtoofer confirmed. probably nothing official after that, but i think we'll see dev support for a long time with this phone. its pretty solid
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this phone will be getting 4.2.2 for sure. HTC and llabtoofer confirmed. probably nothing official after that, but i think we'll see dev support for a long time with this phone. its pretty solid
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Verizon seems to be putting all their support into Motorola, Samsung, and Apple.
I'll be shocked if we get 4.2.2 officially before the year ends.... if ever.
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Verizon seems to be putting all their support into Motorola, Samsung, and Apple.
I'll be shocked if we get 4.2.2 officially before the year ends.... if ever.
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its already confirmed. besides, after the verizon one comes out in august, we'll have a CDMA port of 4.2.2 anyway, so it wont even matter much
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its already confirmed. besides, after the verizon one comes out in august, we'll have a CDMA port of 4.2.2 anyway, so it wont even matter much
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Yea we will have a freshly baked cdma ril for our sense 5 ports. Yum
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so as the One gets updates, we can get ported updates for our DNAs as well?
I highly doubt they'll even consider updating this phone before the One gets 4.2.2/the One hype train dies down. At least a month after release I'd say.
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I highly doubt they'll even consider updating this phone before the One gets 4.2.2/the One hype train dies down. At least a month after release I'd say.
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It's really a shame that HTC has decided to never stand behind their devices and are on the verge of chapter 11 due to to it.
The 2 year old Galaxy S II is expected to get android 4.2.2 by the end of summer... possibly before the HTC One. The HTC phone that came out the same year as the GS2 was the Sensation and HTC left it dead on 4.0.3 ICS.
I will not buy another HTC device even though I have only had HTC's since the G1. I'm not sure if I want to go Samsung but I may not have a choice.
HTC should just get out of android and sign a Nokia like deal to make Windows junk.
It's half HTC, half Verizon... The butterfly (international version of our phones) got 4.2.2 with Sense 5! So there's hope. At the least someone figures out how to get it working on CDMA and we can flash it. Honestly all I want is ASOP 4.3. No bugs. I'll be content. Until 5.0 comes out seriously though. I'd rather get an iPhone over any Samsung phone. Then my phone will actually have good build quality. And I'd get updates when they're released. And I'd be extremely limited and forced to join the Apple cult... Oh the struggles. :banghead:
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It's really a shame that HTC has decided to never stand behind their devices and are on the verge of chapter 11 due to to it.
The 2 year old Galaxy S II is expected to get android 4.2.2 by the end of summer... possibly before the HTC One. The HTC phone that came out the same year as the GS2 was the Sensation and HTC left it dead on 4.0.3 ICS.
I will not buy another HTC device even though I have only had HTC's since the G1. I'm not sure if I want to go Samsung but I may not have a choice.
HTC should just get out of android and sign a Nokia like deal to make Windows junk.
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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That would be true if it weren't for the fact that other phones have seen long support on Verizon and other carriers. Don't have to look further than the Droid Bionic/RAZR to see that. Both shipped with 2.3 and have had 4.1 for quite some time now. Meanwhile, both the Incredible 4G and Rezound haven't gotten past ICS in around the same timeframe. The DNA is the last HTC I buy while I'm on Verizon, if it weren't for the fact that I'm S-Off and we have a great DEV community, I'd be out in a second.
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Honestly all I want is ASOP 4.3. No bugs. I'll be content.
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Oh is that all, not hard to please, are you?
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Oh is that all, not hard to please, are you?
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Well if they did that we wouldn't see another update at all, we aren't the high quality handset anymore.
It isn't Google's fault for how android gets distributed, it's carrier and manufacturer. I'd take development of custom roms and kernels over a single device being updated faster. To me that's just another ios device. If instant updates are a requirement then really only choices are nexus devices.
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Apple has lost almost 50% of there stock value for that reason 1 device only. I will take the top notch devs we have over a free apple device any day. These guys kick ass. Thanks DNA DEVS.
I love our devs and more the better. The thing is there is so many devices not all can be supported. I mean the DNA isn't officially supported by CM or AOKP. The less fragmentation the better. And that Apple company that lost their stock? We'll they're the most profitable company in America. I hate their policies and their OS, but they offer timely updates, and a high quality device. Why? Because their billion dollar R&D budget goes to one phone. Not 17...
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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Your post got me thinking...
How are the new upgrade programs these carriers offer going to effect android? Since you can upgrade every 6 months now will we even see updates at all?
Maybe it forces google to use motorola and lock down android.
Verizon won't update this phone. If they do then you have less of a reason to jump on the newer phones.
And to those confirmed rumors... The Rezound was confirmed JB as well. How'd that go?
If you want updates, leave Verizon and get a Nexus. Otherwise be happy with what you get from our community devs.
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I love our devs and more the better. The thing is there is so many devices not all can be supported. I mean the DNA isn't officially supported by CM or AOKP. The less fragmentation the better. And that Apple company that lost their stock? We'll they're the most profitable company in America. I hate their policies and their OS, but they offer timely updates, and a high quality device. Why? Because their billion dollar R&D budget goes to one phone. Not 17...
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Then go buy an iPhone. And u read the journal, they used to be the most profitable. The reason they are not is because they are a 1pony show. All the tech people are saying they are going down because of all the good android phones.