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Good Morning my fellow Jetstream owners.
I have some trusted contacts that have informed me that HTC is not likely to produce an ice cream sandwich ROM for jetstream.
It is a simple business decision, it costs a ton of money to develop, test and support a build. So I have to agree with the decision.
Having said that, I am working on a plan with HTC and a developer to partner up and develop a ROM for us. As far as a I know this will be the first time an XDA dev and HTC have partnered on a dev project.
I will keep this forum updated on progress.
Russ741
Well, on one hand I'm happy to hear that we might some day get ics.
On the other hand, I feel like I deserv an official answer after spending all that money.
Thanks for the information.
The thing I'm sure of - I wil never purchase htc again.
guru_shastri said:
Well, on one hand I'm happy to hear that we might some day get ics.
On the other hand, I feel like I deserv an official answer after spending all that money.
Thanks for the information.
The thing I'm sure of - I wil never purchase htc again.
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I must agree with guru_shastri! This tablet is one of the most expensive tablets in the Android tablet market space, and for HTC to deny its customer information on future upgrades is shameful! If you are no longer going to support a product do what HP did and DROP THE PRICE! I will never buy an HTC product ever again, phone or tablet. This is why HTC is loosing money...
I really hope this project takes place and does not end up born dead as it is the same for me, I hadeverything HTC, phone (Desire Z) two tabs (Flyer and jetstream) but I move simply away from HTC as not ICS on any of these devices. Samsung Glide Keyboard phone that will receive ICS, Huawei 7" Mediapad already on ICS and waiting for the Galaxy tab Note 10"
HTC wake up!! You are loosing a important customer base by not providing support to devices less than a year old and so expensive!!
No ICS update, no more buy products made by HTC
I'm very disappointed by the response of the HTC as they will not to provide any ICS upgrades for the HTC Jetstream. This item is very expensinve and thus we, as a customer, deserve receiving ICS update considering other cheaper items from HTC got major updates.
When it comes to me, 'No ICS update' means no more buying products made by HTC.
This is the biggest flaw in Android.
03457840723304580 devices running different OSes, as seen from the Android developer's site here:
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Apple really has the upper ground here because there are only a few devices they really have to worry about configuring iOS for (iPhone 4, 4s, iPad 1,2,3). Android has how many lol.
It is really a wrench in the gears.
AND, google announcing Jelly Bean Nexus devices this Winter... really?
Considering everyone is running 2.3.3 mostly, why would you want to begin implementing 5.0? Big game of catch up. Sorry. Had to rant.
As I posted elsewhere on this thread.
Here is my reply from HTC yesterday.
Dear.....
At this time we do not have any information as to what the next update will be for the Jetstream or any other HTC tablets. The information is not available as to whether or not the Jetstream will get Ice Cream Sandwich or a HTC Sense update. The current version of Sense is HTC Sense 1.1 for the tablet.
I hope this helps. If any information is released, most of the time it is posted on our Facebook page. That is where the information has been posted in the past for devices that are to receive updates.
..........
I agree with people's remarks here. Shame on HTC, to abandon any upgrades, Sense or ICS, for such a high end tablet.
Biggest brand killer, is to make and sell high end products and then not support it.
The person making these sort of decisions should be fired.
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A little disapppointing, but I can't complain. I paid 169 dollars for it on a one year contract with Rogers.
I feel like such a fool for not getting the lenovo thinkpad now. I used to be a fan of HTC but now I've traded my Evo 3D for a nexus and the Jetstream might be next. If you can get them to cooperate with helping developers get a working 4.0 build I would be very appreciative. The tablet has the horsepower but the software cripples it to merely passable.
Moping won't help us.
the flyer forum has 2 or 3 ics versions in progress. they got a developer to help them, for money, and he got them the breakthrough.
bounty is the way to go. the device is far cheaper now, if we had more money we could get one for another developer..
Not that it will help but for clarification, they said they would continue to support Honeycomb on the Flyer/Evo and JetStream, but were not going ahead with ICS.
Makes me sick too, but I had to clarify.
I don't know why they don't just release the source after a period after they say, "no more upgrades." With open source OSes it only makes sense to allow people who bought the devices to tinker with them once the retailer has essentially...committed themselves to abandoning their customers.
Google should really think long and hard about the Apache licensing compact thingy thing and see what they can do about these lame manufacturers who are bleeding us dry.
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Ah, I just posted over in the General section about this. I'd like to help out with the dev if I can. I want nothing to do with the bounty, but I will contribute up to $50 if it will help get an HTC dev involved.
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Not that it will help but for clarification, they said they would continue to support Honeycomb on the Flyer/Evo and JetStream, but were not going ahead with ICS.
Makes me sick too, but I had to clarify.
I don't know why they don't just release the source after a period after they say, "no more upgrades." With open source OSes it only makes sense to allow people who bought the devices to tinker with them once the retailer has essentially...committed themselves to abandoning their customers.
Google should really think long and hard about the Apache licensing compact thingy thing and see what they can do about these lame manufacturers who are bleeding us dry.
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How nice of them to "support" a device by doing absolutely nothing. How is it even legal to call it that?
Well I've join the Jetstream family dispite all the bad press. I am a HTC fan, but sorry to hear the news. But glad to hear to good news of possibilities
Why doesn't HTC even give a new Sense update. I know they can't go to Sense 4.0, but what about 3.5 or 3.6 like they did with other Honeycomb HTC users?
They can't expect to leave us hanging and then make another HTC tablet, that would be insane on HTC to do that.
Can hardly wait to hear your plan. We are all ears my friend.
When will be get an update on the plan ?
Thanks in advance.
Russ741 said:
Good Morning my fellow Jetstream owners.
I have some trusted contacts that have informed me that HTC is not likely to produce an ice cream sandwich ROM for jetstream.
It is a simple business decision, it costs a ton of money to develop, test and support a build. So I have to agree with the decision.
Having said that, I am working on a plan with HTC and a developer to partner up and develop a ROM for us. As far as a I know this will be the first time an XDA dev and HTC have partnered on a dev project.
I will keep this forum updated on progress.
Russ741
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Well I've join the Jetstream family dispite all the bad press. I am a HTC fan, but sorry to hear the news. But glad to hear to good news of possibilities
Why doesn't HTC even give a new Sense update. I know they can't go to Sense 4.0, but what about 3.5 or 3.6 like they did with other Honeycomb HTC users?
They can't expect to leave us hanging and then make another HTC tablet, that would be insane on HTC to do that.
Can hardly wait to hear your plan. We are all ears my friend.
When will be get an update on the plan ?
Thanks in advance.
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H, welcome to the forum and the family of Jetstream users. Russ741 will inform us when he gets some useful confirmed info. So just give him some time. Till then we all can hope for some responsibility shown where deserved from HTC.
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Hi guys, count me as another new Jetstream owner. I just picked mine up on Friday, May 25. I already knew that HTC had announced that there would be no ICS for this tablet but my desire to have a tablet with stylus coupled with the superiority of the Jetstream over the Lenovo tablet made the decision easy. I run ICS (turl's CM9) on my Atrix and would surely like to have it on the Jetstream, but won't go nuts for it.
My primary reason for desiring the stylus is to use this tablet connected to a large TV as a pseudo smart whiteboard for helping my kids with their homework. In that capacity, the fine writing capabilities of the Scribe stylus are fantastic and therefore I accepted the dead-end attitude of HTC and bought anyway.
While I've had smart phones for a long time (back to iPaq with GSM sleeve as my first integrated phone + PDA), this is my first tablet and I'm really enjoying it. I do despise the bloatware and will surely root to have Titanium freeze that junk, but otherwise having lots of fun.
If there is a bounty running to get ICS on the Jetstream then I will contribute. I probably won't run the ICS port unless it has all of the Scribe bolt-ons for the above-stated reason, but would still contribute to support the dev of the ICS port to what I think is a great tablet.
globalgpj said:
Well I've join the Jetstream family dispite all the bad press. I am a HTC fan, but sorry to hear the news. But glad to hear to good news of possibilities
Why doesn't HTC even give a new Sense update. I know they can't go to Sense 4.0, but what about 3.5 or 3.6 like they did with other Honeycomb HTC users?
They can't expect to leave us hanging and then make another HTC tablet, that would be insane on HTC to do that.
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For the record, HTC has never said they wouldn't update the tablet. They just said we wouldn't be getting ICS. They did claim that it will still receive software updates. This might mean Android 3.2 and an updated Sense, or it might just mean security patches.
I would love to see even 3.2 on this. There was a noticeable increase in touchscreen/display performance when I upgraded my Transformer. (Which I kinda miss, but I got a sweet deal on an unlimited LTE data plan for the Jetstream, so it took over.)
I would definitely give up Sense for some CM9 though, if the stylus is fully supported. I think the big hurdle will be the RIL. Having taken a cursory look at some (but not all) of the hardware in the Jetstream, I'd think CM9 is pretty feasible on it, save for the LTE radio, which there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice.
ICS for HTC Jetstream
I'm looking at picking one up today and can do some development however I'm wondering about the source release. From what I understand Android means that the sources have to be availed. Is something different with ICS? Do device makers now have the option?
Please let me know because though I can do whatever else I want with this thing I'm not keen on trying any ICS porting without the sources.
Thanks.
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Got the kernel source: http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/P300
Hmmm.. do get or not to get an HTC Jetstream and ....
I bought it.
I still have some things to consider before taking the ICS port jump. Mainly, an X61T port for my current,
and possibly to be replaced by the Jetstream, Lenovo X61T work machine. To date ICS on the X61T runs real smooth.
Some tablet related issues to work out. .. Still deciding which to keep ...
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mwoliver said:
Hi guys, count me as another new Jetstream owner. I just picked mine up on Friday, May 25. I already knew that HTC had announced that there would be no ICS for this tablet but my desire to have a tablet with stylus coupled with the superiority of the Jetstream over the Lenovo tablet made the decision easy. I run ICS (turl's CM9) on my Atrix and would surely like to have it on the Jetstream, but won't go nuts for it.
My primary reason for desiring the stylus is to use this tablet connected to a large TV as a pseudo smart whiteboard for helping my kids with their homework. In that capacity, the fine writing capabilities of the Scribe stylus are fantastic and therefore I accepted the dead-end attitude of HTC and bought anyway.
While I've had smart phones for a long time (back to iPaq with GSM sleeve as my first integrated phone + PDA), this is my first tablet and I'm really enjoying it. I do despise the bloatware and will surely root to have Titanium freeze that junk, but otherwise having lots of fun.
If there is a bounty running to get ICS on the Jetstream then I will contribute. I probably won't run the ICS port unless it has all of the Scribe bolt-ons for the above-stated reason, but would still contribute to support the dev of the ICS port to what I think is a great tablet.
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I'm in.
I'll be setting up the environment, getting the sources etc..
It'll be my first shot and I anticipate issues. An experienced porter would be of some help here.
Hi all! Today I was thinking about ICS on Jetstream and here what I get in conclusion.
HTC devices are stick to sense, so mabe HTC stil does not have SENSE for ICS tablets!?
So mabe when HTC presents new tablet, they also will preset a new sense for 10" ICS tablets?
What u guys think about it? It make some "sense"
Sorry for bad grammar, I'm from Eastern Europe :angel:
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4FB
I know there have been emails, speculation and all of that jazz.
Here it is however, officially official for anyone/everyone to see.
I'm sure if you call a few customer service reps, you can find one or two that will reignite the speculation. It's too quite in here.
yeah that's it. Does kind of suck. my phone was one of the first to receive an ics update from htc and it is absolutely amazing even with its heavily skinned sense ui. But the downside is its built on 4.03 and before 4.04, ics is so buggy you'd think it was in beta, and battery life has gone to complete hell too, and for the htc vivid, it's probably its first and last update from htc.
Hopefully someone delivers a good ics rom for us.
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DigitalMD said:
I'm sure if you call a few customer service reps, you can find one or two that will reignite the speculation. It's too quite in here.
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Sounds like a plan. I'll get on it.
I'm running CM9, ICS on my old Color Nook and its great. Stable, wonderful.
Guys, sign my petition in my thread, we get enough signatures we will surely get ICS
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Or steady full working honeycomb. This is a more definite chance
they said they aren't done supporting it but I call bs. i originally suggested new features for honeycomb but now if they just fixed the gps, made it faster and smoother, and fixed the game data downloading issues I'd be happy. Probably won't happen though. I'm just going to stay on gingerbread
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Whoareyou said:
Guys, sign my petition in my thread, we get enough signatures we will surely get ICS
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You must be high lol
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no good news as its 99% the same chips as the Sensation XL
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You must be high lol
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Lol yeah I don't see a petition doing much good at this point. HTC has decided the cost of giving us an update is more than the cost of loosing our business so they'll just ignore a petition.
Really I don't seen how it could cost them that much though. These is a company that doesn't differentiate from hardware too much and there are several phones that either have ics or are getting it with very similar if not identical hardware. Its not like they have to develop from scratch, really just taking something like the one v rom, optimize it for a tablet, and adding drivers for the front camera is all they'd have to do. 90% of all htc device's if not more have some version of the snapdragon with an adreno gpu so getting us a working ICS update shouldn't take more than a day with the resources they have.
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Its still a nice tablet.
Disappointed in HTC - would have to think long and VERY hard before buying another product from this manufacturer.
yeah it is a nice tablet still. I don't get the marketing and design though. they set it up to fail from day one by releasing it at a high price point that you could get a 10 inch honeycomb tablet for. most people just passed it up and went to the xoom sitting next to it. or just bought an ipad. HTC seems to do this alot, just throw some product out there with some innovative features, but overall make it unappealing to the market (in this case the pen, but remember the Facebook phone?). They really took a knife to a gun fight with the flyer and now they wanna pretend it never existed.
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Cor-master said:
yeah it is a nice tablet still. I don't get the marketing and design though. they set it up to fail from day one by releasing it at a high price point that you could get a 10 inch honeycomb tablet for. most people just passed it up and went to the xoom sitting next to it. or just bought an ipad. HTC seems to do this alot, just throw some product out there with some innovative features, but overall make it unappealing to the market (in this case the pen, but remember the Facebook phone?). They really took a knife to a gun fight with the flyer and now they wanna pretend it never existed.
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Long term, the phone and tablet market will be a 2 horse race. The SGS and Galaxy tab outsell any HTC phones/tablets and the Apple Iphone/Ipad will continue to dominate (....am I allowed to say that here ?)
Nokia are making massive losses.
RIM in steep decline.
Sony have lost their mojo.
HTC struggled last year but the One range may do them some good - if they don't alienate too many flyer/view owners
Samsung are a bit plasticky.
yeah I'm a former samsung owner, build quality could be worse but they do use too much plastic no doubt
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I am teh sad.
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Wouldn't mind so much if HC didn't suck so much on the flyer - performance just seems awful. Ah well think I'm just gonna stick Dexter's ICS/Sense 4 rom on my flyer and live without the pen. At least I'll have the goodness of chrome and it runs much smoother than the official HC release ever did.
I'll have to think carefully about ever buying another HTC device - if I wasn't so happy with my one X I think I'd have turned my back on them by now. Not that they'd care of course.
Well HTC sucks, but not as much as Motorola ( i have the dorid x2) who locks their bootloaders, never unlocks them, never releases the source code and drops support even for currently selling phones only 4 months old. But wait, ain't Motorola part of that funny sounding company ,,,?? starts with a G........ oh, yes, Google. Hummmmmmmm
Oh and BTW, FYI, UBETCHA, I'm reverting to FROYO, which was so less laggy, leggy, jerky, jittery, clucky, clicky, smelly, bed bug ridden ,stinky, crappy, gassy, slimy, limey, and sticky/rickety than GB, HC, ICS, JB and any future or past or other version of Andorid, IOS, WP, SENSE, BB, ET, or NBC.
And speaking of petitions, I'm gonna start a petition to have Apple and Samsung bury HTC in patient infringement litigation to the point for HTC cannot sell a single device , hhahhaahhahooohooohhhoehehehehehee LOL LMAO.
There I feel so much better now.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I asked htc about this and they said "Dear **** *******,
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC Flyer.
My name is David and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
I understand that you wish to enquire if the Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) update will be made available for your tablet.
We really do appreciate your interest in our products John. I do apologise but the HTC Flyer would not be receiving the ICS update. This is because this update is incompatible with this device.
However, your experience with our phones is very important for us, and we take these comments very seriously. HTC is a forward thinking company and appreciates any feedback received from its customers. Your comments, concerns and suggestions will be taken into consideration and passed on to our development ream.
I do apologise for the inconvenience this may be causing you.
To let me know I have successfully answered your query, please follow the link below to close your enquiry, you will have the opportunity to leave feedback about your experience contacting me today.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here .
Sincerely,
David
HTC"
I Replied saying about the hundreds of sense 4 ics ports out there and all they needed to do to one of them is fix the camera and the scribe function and they would have an ICS rom!
... so did they answer your query successfully ?
Seems like the support guy is asking you to swallow the BS line "incompatible with your device". Might be worth further enquiring as to why it is incompatible ...
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"Dear **** *******,
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC Flyer.
I understand that you wish to enquire if the Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) update will be made available for your tablet.
We really do appreciate your interest in our products. I do apologise but the HTC Flyer would not be receiving the ICS update. This is because HTC are moving out of the tablet space and it is uneconomic to support your device further.
Your experience with our phones isn't really important for us, and we will file your comments in the trash can. HTC is losing money and has bigger problems than dealing with feedback received from its customers. Your comments, concerns and suggestions will be ignored - we probably don't even have a tablet development team to forward them to.
I laugh in your general direction.
To let me know I have successfully answered your query, please follow the link below to close your enquiry, you will have the opportunity to leave feedback about your experience contacting me today.
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etc"
Well, as the title says, HTC is preparing a new tablet and has leaked some info and benchmarks of the new device. When they announced the Flyer/EVO View and Jetstream were not going to receive official ICS update, one of the reasons HTC gave was that they were not going to develop new tablets and the cost of developing a new ICS Sense for Tablets was not worth it for just two devices...
So now... what?
I'd like to ask everybody here who has a Facebook account to go to the official HTC facebook page and demand the update to ICS for the Flyer/ EVO View and Jetstream tablets. It's not useless, HTC has rectified before when the customers filled their facebook pages demanding updates (Gingerbread update for Desire is a good example).
Some facts you can use to convince HTC to release the update (you can copy/paste in the HTC facebook pages):
- Flyer was released in May 2011, Desire HD in October 2010. Flyer is more powerful... but the DHD is getting the update. Not anymore!!! has HTC decision makers gone mad???
- Flyer has a more powerful CPU than One V, and twice the RAM... One V already has ICS, of course.
- Flyer has some unofficial ICS ROMs already, even a Sense 4 port, and those are the fastest ROMs ever in this device, but many things don't work because they are not official ROMs. The hardware is more than ready for ICS, it's begging for the update!!!
- HTC is going to release a new tablet, everyone who owns an HTC tablet will never buy another HTC after this "NO ICS" decision and we´ll be recommending everyone we know against doing so. And probably advise against their phones too.
- The hardware specs and quality of manufacturing of HTC tablets are outstanding. HTC tablets have been a commercial failure in the past because of several reasons, but the hardware is not one of them. Poor advertising, extremely high price,... but most of all, the lack of a proper OS is the major flaw of these devices.
- The Honeycomb update brought the loss of functionalities like phone calls or the hardware buttons... and a loss of 10% screen working area in landscape mode because of the Honeycomb bar (and we are talking of a 7" screen). We BOUGHT a device with those functionalities and there is no official downgrade.
- Most Flyer users were really disappointed with the Honeycomb update and were sincerely hoping an ICS update would fix those things, many kept Gingerbread instead of installing the update. The most read threads in the Flyer's forums on the Internet are the ones explaining how to downgrade to Gingerbread (unofficial method, of course). This is a worldwide situation.
- Honeycomb is dead. It was Google's temporary solution for tablets until ICS was ready and it shows... every major manufacturer is updating their tablets to ICS and getting rid of Honeycomb for good. No one wants Honeycomb, it was a failure, and that is known even at Google central offices (they won't admit it, of course). Our one year old devices should not be running an obsolete OS. With Gingerbread first and later with Honeycomb we still don't have a proper OS to enjoy the full potential of our devices, ICS is the solution and HTC is not updating.
- The ICS update is not just a fancy thing we are asking for, it's a necessity for our devices to function as they should.
- If HTC is developing a new ICS Sense for Tablets, it should not cost much to bring it to our devices. The cost of developing is out of the equation. HTC is letting down its actual tablet consumer base at the same time it is developing something that would make us all happy if it was released for our tablets. If we get an OS update (ICS or JB) for our devices then our next tablet would be an HTC almost for sure and we would be happy customers. Instead, we will not only run away from future HTC tablets but also the phones.
- The new HTC Quattro, Vertex or whatever name HTC gives to their new 10" tablet will be a commercial failure for sure if the owners of the only HTC tablets to date are left in the present situation. We are not happy, and the reason is the lack of a proper OS, it's a software problem. We will advise everyone against buying HTC tablets and we won't buy any more products from them. We could be telling everyone how wonderful HTC tablets really are if we had the proper OS, that's the best advertising any company wants, but we'll do right the opposite.
- Many of the HTC tablet customers chose their devices because they had HTC written all over them, knowing that meant QUALITY in capital letters. Early adopters of new devices are the ones that determine the success or failure of a company in a market niche. They're usually technology enthusiasts and they spread the word if a product is great or not. Apple knows very well what i'm talking about.
Tablets still are a fairly new product for the masses (specially Android ones), the early adopters of the HTC tablets are not satisfied, and a simple update can change the situation. Very little cost for HTC and huge benefits if they release the update.
- If HTC really wants to sell tablets and be one of the big brands they have to treat their customers properly, and give us the ICS update we need to enjoy the full potential of our devices (and also have back again the functionalities WE PAID FOR). Otherwise they will continue to see their benefits numbers drop (half this year).
I've already started to publish all this at the HTC main facebook page and at HTC Spain facebook page (where I live), and of course there is a Spanish version of this rant that is "more colorful" because that's my native language (En el anuncio de la filtración de las prestaciones del nuevo tablet les dije que si no nos dan la actualización se lo podian meter por donde amargan los pepinos, por ejemplo )
Of course all this might end up in nothing, but we have nothing to loose and much to gain just by spending a few minutes on facebook telling HTC that we are not happy, and that they might be in for a rough ride trying to sell their new tablet having their current tablet user base so pissed up.
Link to HTC facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/HTC
Honestly man its a lost cause. Htc won't bend on it, they've made up their minds and the writing is on the wall. Good news is we have a good aokp build started by chaos so we will have a full working ics rom but not from htc
Also if they use the same pen technology, it might be our ticket to working pen on ics
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our best hopes would be that something from this new tablet could be ported over
I wouldn't bet on the porting bit, the processor architectures are just too different. I guess maybe Chaos could get some kind of kernel ported, but I would personally be running AOKP even if we had a OEM solution. Hmm...you know I wonder if the AOKP MHL issue is because the standard Linux kernel doesn't support the second framebuffer...?
Just did my bit.
I doubt the hardware will be anywhere similar to the flyer but if it has pen, then we could get an ics pen driver
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Same here. Posted on HTC's facebook page.
Figured why the hell not
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Ah great my punctuation is all messed up. "buy" instead of by and "their" instead of "there" lol i look like an idiot now
And now I know why I don't post on Facebook. Because there is some trolling htc fanboy that is the first to comment every time I make a comment about the Flyer. This dude probably bought every condem named htc phone that ever lived, probably uses an htc Status as his main phone, probably has a closet full of white shirts with green htc logos, and spends every waking moment on their page defending them to the teeth if anyone dares make rip on them. His name is Droider.se
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i wrote on their facebook page and here is the reply from them:
https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10151269154368084?notif_t=feed_comment
Our tablets are built and optimized for a Honeycomb experience. To preserve that match between hardware and software, we do not plan to update our tablets at this time. Upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.0 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support as needed.
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i wrote on their facebook page and here is the reply from them:
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Lmao that was straight out of their press released. "optimized for honeycomb"? Seriously? Optimized for what lag? If the flyer was optimized for anything, it was gingerbread not honeycomb.
I know it's all a lost cause anyway but still entertaining to hear their responses. Also ongoing support means releasing an update to address the lag and broken gps, and I see no indication they a going to do that.
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I would like to post on their Facebook profiles, but I probably won't. I used to post on HTC Global, HTC UK, HTC Canada and HTC US. But I always got responses from dubious people who were on HTC's side, and to tell you the truth, I don't need more bad blood from dealing with (the lack of) official ICS of the Flyer.
It's a slap in the face if HTC is really developing another tablet. They've probably made some market research and must've found out that people really want another HTC tablet because their first go was such a commercial success. Plus, they must've found out that HTC tablet owners are so happy with their purchases, they're now like iPad owners: whenever a new generation comes, they jump right away.
Eitherway, I wish all the best to HTC. They said no ICS is coming for the Flyer. I can live with that as long as they keep their promise to update Honeycomb. Though, I doubt they'll have the time. JB is already here, and they're still busy updating to ICS.
I bought this tab 50 Days ago... Now I am already ranting about it. Should i exchange it for a Nexus 7?
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geojoking said:
I would like to post on their Facebook profiles, but I probably won't. I used to post on HTC Global, HTC UK, HTC Canada and HTC US. But I always got responses from dubious people who were on HTC's side, and to tell you the truth, I don't need more bad blood from dealing with (the lack of) official ICS of the Flyer.
It's a slap in the face if HTC is really developing another tablet. They've probably made some market research and must've found out that people really want another HTC tablet because their first go was such a commercial success. Plus, they must've found out that HTC tablet owners are so happy with their purchases, they're now like iPad owners: whenever a new generation comes, they jump right away.
Eitherway, I wish all the best to HTC. They said no ICS is coming for the Flyer. I can live with that as long as they keep their promise to update Honeycomb. Though, I doubt they'll have the time. JB is already here, and they're still busy updating to ICS.
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I'm pretty sure HTC never promised to update Honeycomb.
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I bought this tab 50 Days ago... Now I am already ranting about it. Should i exchange it for a Nexus 7?
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Where would you exchange it ? I'm thinking about swapping this tab somewhere too
Yeah there are htc fanboys that troll the site, and you ask about a Flyer ics update and the trolls attack you. Oh well. This isn't going to work, htc has made up their minds. We found this out in May. Let's just focus on ioidroid and Lisbon, scew htc! Ics probably wouldn't have been as nice as we thought anyway, most likely htc would of found a way to make it even slower than honeycomb!
I used to complain too but hell the nexus is only 200, so if I get tired I'll just grab that, we are fortunate to have the developers we have so that should be the focus, not beating a dead horse with nagging at htc
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And now I know why I don't post on Facebook. Because there is some trolling htc fanboy that is the first to comment every time I make a comment about the Flyer. This dude probably bought every condem named htc phone that ever lived, probably uses an htc Status as his main phone, probably has a closet full of white shirts with green htc logos, and spends every waking moment on their page defending them to the teeth if anyone dares make rip on them. His name is Droider.se
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LOL Droider.se!!! I had to suffer him too!!!
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Where would you exchange it ? I'm thinking about swapping this tab somewhere too
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I would probably sell it to my dad because he really wanted one after seeing mine but couldn't find them anywhere... From that money i would buy a Nexus 7 when they come available here in The Netherlands.
Here's what I wrote and what i was answered... with Droider.se answers included too...
It's long, so relax, read it if you're bored. I'll post the three captures:
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I forgot to tell them... If HTC Tablets are optimized for Honeycomb and that's why we're not getting ICS... then WHY THE HELL DO I HAVE HARDWARE BUTTONS IN MY DEVICE?????, so I just did:
Posted. More than likely will get the canned reply, but it's there.
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Dear friends,
I really wanted to. I had so much hope for this device, but I can no longer do it. I love aosp and absolutely loathe sense. That being said for some reason I love HTC. They make beautiful, sexy, durable, powerful and for the most part, reasonably priced. But it seems to me that the salad days are behind me. I've had the aria, hero, touch pro, evo, HD, inspire, incredible, vivid, one x, and lastly the x+. But my last few haven't impressed and so here we are. As of last night I sold my x+, hugged my pillow, and cried myself to sleep. The latest set back was finally just to much for me after a long series of disappointments on other devices. I am using the money to buy an N4 and most likely will stick with the flagship on down the line. I plan to start learning as much as possible to help solve issues like this in the future. I say good bye and thank you to a great community and impressive company for now, its been an awesome ride.
Greatest regards,
Meatwad0222
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Did exactly the same last week
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That's a sad thread... should probably be ranamed as a "Farewell Thread"
But there is no way of happiness here, really... I was always with HTC, comming from HTC Touch Dual which was fun these days. Then my favourite HTC HD2. I was really crying when I sold it a few month ago... but sh.. I sold it for 200 bucks, and that was a price in january this year. Now I got mine HTC One X+. No trouble with a device it works, it works good, but I had more fun with my HD2 than what I have now. Want to say thanks for every dev, every member and every noob in HTC Community. That was good times. But HTC is dissapointing me, dissapointing me so much, that all my hate for Samsung has gone now and I'm switching to S4 in some time. But untill that, my heart still belongs to HTC... don't know for how long.
Same here. I gave my daughter my hox+ and downgraded to her S2 just so I could run CM again. I'll keep the S2 until the Motorola Google X is released. I too plan to stay with Google's flagship device from now on (whoever makes it). Thanks for everyone's help with hox+ related issues and questions.
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This reminds me of the farewell posts back in the Windows Mobile days. I got this phone in December, and it still has the stock ROM on it. None of the ROM's here really inspire me. This is coming from someone who went through the wire trick on the Sensation XE so I could load custom ROM's on it. Maybe I am just getting lazy, but looking for something different.
I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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It's not that there's something wrong with them, how would I know as I've not even flashed one, right? I used to love flashing ROMs, but now I guess I don't find it all that exciting anymore. I am on the International version of the HOX+ so which ROM would you recommend?
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I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with the current AOSP roms for the One X+? Or is it because you have the AT&T version and don't have a stable AOSP rom yet (afaik)?
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At&t
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Dear friends,
I really wanted to. I had so much hope for this device, but I can no longer do it. I love aosp and absolutely loathe sense.
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There will be CM for AT&T sooner than later though right? If sense is your only issue may as well stick it out
Patience doesn't hurt much. I've got plenty of other things to keep my attention, and I still have my Inspire to play with AOSP for now. Lloir has put a lot into this device so far, and even if not at full capacity he's said he plans to keep it going. Some calls for assistance have been sent out to other devs as well, I hear. And some of the names I've heard mention of are quite talented.
It's just a matter of time, and I think this device will be pretty great once it's got some AOSP love in it. I've had the device since November, and running Elegancia with the Nova launcher it's already quite good. I don't like sense as much as AOSP but Elegancia has been great so far. Great ROM, great dev. Besides I can't go saying there isn't enough dev work going into the device if I haven't taken the time to learn to dev myself.
Stock Sense 4 is well done imho. I was also a flashaholic on previous Android builds but now I am not completely, but pretty satisfied with the stock version that is on the device. Maybe it is because JB is more primetime than any other Android build of past?
I'm too leaving HTC after being an HTC fan for a long time... HTC is focusing and spending a lot of time on locking down their devices than actually releasing software updates.. They could've spent this time on finding a way to make their devices brick proof rather than locking it down. Their idea of updating software is releasing a new phone just like they did with the HOX and HOX+..
HTC one looks like a great device, however why the release it with android 4.1.2??? So they can release HTC one+ a few months later with android 4.2.2??
I used to hate Samsung as they make plastic and cheap looking devices but I've come to respect them as they don't abandon their devices and kept supporting them to the last minute... S3 is getting 4.2.2 soon while HOX+ still stuck at 4.1.1!! Samsung s2 is getting jelly bean!! While desire Hd didn't get ics!
I'm joining the boat and ditching HTC for good
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for what it's worth, S3 has been out for a lot longer. HOX+ is still pretty young. and lack of updates has more to do with lazy carriers than manufacturers typically. But I mean, go wherever you're happy going.
interesting to hear people willing to leave htc products behind, I've come from a long line of samsung phones when I jumped ship back in the desireHD days. Having tried the sony xperia z for a couple of weeks I was glad to be offered the one+ in exchange. I've missed the htc build quality
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interesting to hear people willing to leave htc products behind, I've come from a long line of samsung phones when I jumped ship back in the desireHD days. Having tried the sony xperia z for a couple of weeks I was glad to be offered the one+ in exchange. I've missed the htc build quality
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I think the hox+ is suffering from a timing issue. All of the devs upgraded to the hox after the desireHD/inspire and then htc released the + too soon. Bring on the Motorola X.
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So many great comments here. I'm on the verge of jumping ship to the new S4. As you can see from my sig, I've been exclusively with HTC for some time now, and I realllly like the x+. It's really a sleek and beautiful phone, I hate using a case but its cheap insurance. Also, for once I really don't mind the stock ROM, just had to flash the available mods and now I'm content. HTC has always treated me well, sending me new batteries and chargers even out of warranty without giving me a hard time. But alas, this dropping new and better phones every few months is really annoying. Its like they purposly hold back so they can realse something "better". If they were smart they would've made s-off easier, gave it 2gigs, and put efforts into upgrading to 4.2.2 and make the hox+ the flagship for about a year. After reading the specs of the next ONE, I'm not impressed at all, its a downgrade in memory and camera. WHY? This day in age 64gigs or an SD slot on a high end device should be the standard, and even if the 4 megapixel camera is better IRL, on paper it sounds like poop. Honestly though I can't see the camera being any better, especially if you installed the 4.2 camera app from the mod section. This phones cameras is as good or better then my Kodak 18magepix point and shoot. HTC, quit playing games. Make one kick #$% phone, upgrade it when needed, and let it rock out for about a year, stop holing back so you can realse something "better" two months later.
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HTC is focusing and spending a lot of time on locking down their devices than actually releasing software updates..
S3 is getting 4.2.2 soon while HOX+ still stuck at 4.1.1!! Samsung s2 is getting jelly bean!! While desire Hd didn't get ics!
I'm joining the boat and ditching HTC for good
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All carriers lock down their devices, HTC unlocks bootloaders like other OEM's via a site, what else do u need to customize your device? S-off? Unneeded.
S2 is only getting in release cos it sold a boat load of phones so of course sammy will update it to keep the peace, sensation got nowhere near the sales to warrent it in all honesty.
Sammy also doesn't update its tablets or non flagship devices, they rarely if any see updates to next android versions.
The sg4 also won't be getting official AOSP according to cyanogen mod devs as Sammy never outs the source code for yrs. Sg3 was lucky to get support.
The official news is that all current HTC devices including HOS will be getting sense 5 which will be 4.2.2 on release, at which point ill be using Aokp klp on my HOX+.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...heading-for-the-HTC-One-X-this-Summer_id41376
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All carriers lock down their devices, HTC unlocks bootloaders like other OEM's via a site, what else do u need to customize your device? S-off? Unneeded.
S2 is only getting in release cos it sold a boat load of phones so of course sammy will update it to keep the peace, sensation got nowhere near the sales to warrent it in all honesty.
Sammy also doesn't update its tablets or non flagship devices, they rarely if any see updates to next android versions.
The sg4 also won't be getting official AOSP according to cyanogen mod devs as Sammy never outs the source code for yrs. Sg3 was lucky to get support.
The official news is that all current HTC devices including HOS will be getting sense 5 which will be 4.2.2 on release, at which point ill be using Aokp klp on my HOX+.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...heading-for-the-HTC-One-X-this-Summer_id41376
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I'm not talking about carriers as I always buy international unlocked phones.. s-off is really need to be able to flash from within the device and don't have to use a pc to do so. so bootloader unlock still a limited way to open up the device.
the sensation didn't do well because it had many problems and i have owned one before and hated it .. HTC tried to fix it by releasing the XL and still the same...
HTC has said that it will release sense 5 alone with 4.2.2 but let's be honest the release of the update will take ages to see the light, because HTC ONE has android 4.1.2 so other devices won't see any updates till HTC ONE gets 4.2.2 and then maybe after a few months they will release it.. and I won't be too surprised if HTC releases HTC ONE+ to fix issues on the original one and introduce new issues as well.
i just bought Galaxy Note 10.1 and in a matter of months it got jelly bean 4.1.1 and then 4.1.2 .. also tab2 10.1 got 4.1.2 and tab2 7" got 4.1.1 ..
regarding the S4, some developers said that they might not support it but not the CM team..
It's a joke that the HTC One will be shipped with 4.1.2. Key lime pie is knocking at the door in 1 month and then 4.1.2 is so outdated. If Samsung can ship their GS4 with 4.2.2 then HTC should be able too. But I guess sense 5 is a mess and will be slowing down all updates of the Android OS. Never buy a phone with an outdated software; it will slow down the update process even more. OEMs normally don't skip OS versions. So until the HTC One will get KLP it will be next year or more typical for HTC they will release a hardware refresh in 5 months that ships with KLP. No HTC for me anymore.
This is my first smartphone (been lurking for too long) and honestly, even though there isn't a complete AOSP for AT&T yet, I'm really impressed by everyone's hard work for HOX+. I know there's a lot that can be done with the phone that I have-- and, uh, I'll probably also switch to flagship after this, I just really wanted the internal storage-- but I'm satisfied now.
I guess it's different for people who have tasted the fruit of knowledge already, though, and I can't wait to do that too
HTC confirms One X+ not getting anymore updates
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!
I absolutely agree. My last 5 devices have been HTC but my next one won't be.
XDA-developers has provided HTC with a lot of support over the years by devs willing to spend their own time developing roms, kernels, apps etc that have extended the life of HTC devices and made them better to use. I have stuck with HTC pretty much because the people on this forum would help make my device better. To mind HTC owes this forum a lot. How about we organise a collective response to HTC from One X+ users?
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I absolutely agree. My last 5 devices have been HTC but my next one won't be.
XDA-developers has provided HTC with a lot of support over the years by devs willing to spend their own time developing roms, kernels, apps etc that have extended the life of HTC devices and made them better to use. I have stuck with HTC pretty much because the people on this forum would help make my device better. To mind HTC owes this forum a lot. How about we organise a collective response to HTC from One X+ users?
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Ever heard the term fall upon deaf ears. That is exactly what would come out of it.
There was a collective response when they stopped supporting Desire HD.
Did HTC care? Nope. They just want you, the consumer, to spend more money and buy another HTC to help the ailing company.
HTC Sense has some really great features but it is not worth having to spend money every year and a half to buy a new phone in order to receive the latest OS.
HTC blames nVidia for the lack of support. Interesting how the Nexus 7 with nVidia already has fully support for KitKat.
HTC, if you lie to us at least have some truth to your lie!
@saitch76 I am on the same boat as you. My last 3 devices have been HTC and always the same story. After about a year and a half of the phone coming out, HTC always came up with an excuse as to why the device will no longer receive further updates.
Galaxy S5 here I come?
I suspect HTC is hoping users will react with hopelessness as you have described and think there is no point complaining. HTC is in a very different position now compared with the Desire HD days and there is a real chance that they won't exist in a few years. Apple is having to learn that it is unrealistic to expect users to fork out for a new top of the range device every other year. Hence the iPhone 5C. It's an attempt to stop it's customer base defecting to Android (Samsung) devices by giving them them a cheaper route to the latest OS. HTC don't have the monopoly on Android that Apple has on iOS and Samsung has a device for every budget. HTC's only hope is to hold onto their existing customers, particularly the loyal HTC enthusiasts. Nokia and BlackBerry are good examples of what happens when customers are neglected and I hope HTC has taken note. I would much rather be proactive and communicate how unhappy I am, and we are, (there is strength in numbers) than be passive and complain that HTC didn't come knocking on my door to ask what I want. IMO it's not really about the One X+ and KitKat, it's about informing HTC about their longer term strategy for device support. I will only buy another HTC device in the condition that HTC commits to supporting it for longer than 18months. I want HTC to be crystal clear on that. if they can't commit to that then I won't buy another HTC device. If 100 or 500 or 2000 One X+ users communicate that to them then they would be more than foolish not to take notice.
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I am unable to say that I disagree with you.
HTC most likely does expect people to keep mum about it.
When I first heard that the support was ending for the HTC Incredible I said, "Eh, it was a weak phone and phones are on the rise and getting stronger."
I then went to unlocked phones because I was working abroad. The Desire HD was their flagship and an incredibly popular phone. The forums were tagged with roms. Every week a new rom was born. Shortly after HTC released the Sensation, they stated that Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
Lucky me for not jumping to Sensation because as soon as the One X was released, Sensation lost support. That was followed by the One X+.
HTC put all their efforts on updating the One X+ and said the One X will get updates eventually. (I could keep going but you get the point.)
The HTC One is an amazing phone but the One X+ is still holding strong and could manage anything you throw at it.
I agree with everything you said. HTC once held the market a long time ago, as did Nokia and BlackBerry. The problems with Nokia and Blackberry is that they decided to stick to their own OS or partner up with an OS no one uses.
Apple still has their fanbase. People who like iPhones will continue to buy them every year or two, and Apple is very much aware of that.
HTC on the other hand, does not have that much of a fan base anymore. HTC must think they are the only game in town. Unfortunately for them, they are not. With the likes of Samsung surpassing them a long time ago, HTC has lost a huge market share and their stocks are their to prove it. Quarter after quarter their financial records are showing a loss in the billions.
You are right it is not about the One X+ and KitKat, it is about their lack of support. Every 18 months it does very much feel like HTC is pushing you to buy a new phone. My wife's Samsung S3 is now running Android 4.3 with 4.4 on the verge. That phone came out before the One X+ and Samsung is supporting it like a champion. Samsung knows treat your customers right and they will be back. Apparently, HTC expects their customers to keep coming back because their phones look nice. Samsung is currently still using plastic but I have a feeling that they will realize it is time to move to unibody metal. Samsung stole a lot of iPhone fans and I very much see them stealing HTC fans as well.
If you really think that making a stink about it by getting the community together to complain to HTC, I am with you.
I am done with their lack of support and want them to change. Competition makes the companies try their hardest. If HTC seizes to exist, Samsung will rule the market.
Let's start getting the community together and let's complain to HTC.
This ain't over!
What is the best route to do this? I suggested posts on their Twitter and Facebook pages, but they'll just hide them, or give the standard response.
@TeK9samurai I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking about setting up a Survey Monkey survey for One X+ users to get some data to send HTC. Questions could include how long users have had their One X+, how many HTC devices they have owned, how many OS updates they have received, how important the latest OS is for users, how long users think a device should be supported for, how likely users are to buy another HTC device, how users feel about the decision not to provide an update to KitKat, how users feel in general regarding HTC's OS update track record, how many users install custom roms in order to update the OS, how likely would users be to buy an HTC device if OS updates via custom roms were not available.
Any thoughts?
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@TeK9samurai I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking about setting up a Survey Monkey survey for One X+ users to get some data to send HTC. Questions could include how long users have had their One X+, how many HTC devices they have owned, how many OS updates they have received, how important the latest OS is for users, how long users think a device should be supported for, how likely users are to buy another HTC device, how users feel about the decision not to provide an update to KitKat, how users feel in general regarding HTC's OS update track record, how many users install custom roms in order to update the OS, how likely would users be to buy an HTC device if OS updates via custom roms were not available.
Any thoughts?
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All sounds great, I think the questions about custom roms should be left out.
If you open the door to questions like that, you will get answers that don't help your cause.
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What is the best route to do this? I suggested posts on their Twitter and Facebook pages, but they'll just hide them, or give the standard response.
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Unfortunately, most likely what would happen.
Another course of action needs to be taken.
saitch76 said:
@TeK9samurai I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking about setting up a Survey Monkey survey for One X+ users to get some data to send HTC. Questions could include how long users have had their One X+, how many HTC devices they have owned, how many OS updates they have received, how important the latest OS is for users, how long users think a device should be supported for, how likely users are to buy another HTC device, how users feel about the decision not to provide an update to KitKat, how users feel in general regarding HTC's OS update track record, how many users install custom roms in order to update the OS, how likely would users be to buy an HTC device if OS updates via custom roms were not available.
Any thoughts?
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It will be a huge waste of time
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It will be a huge waste of time
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And your suggesting what as an alternative?
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And your suggesting what as an alternative?
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There is nothing you can do.
No matter how many petitions you make or spamming their Facebook/email/inbox won't make a shed of difference.
I suggest you just live with it, like the rest of us have to and all the devices that had to prior to the X/X+
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There is nothing you can do.
No matter how many petitions you make or spamming their Facebook/email/inbox won't make a shed of difference.
I suggest you just live with it, like the rest of us have to and all the devices that had to prior to the X/X+
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Just living with it is exactly what HTC will hope for. It's not in my nature not to do that. Passivity achieves nothing.
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I'll never buy a htc phone again.... :/
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Just living with it is exactly what HTC will hope for. It's not in my nature not to do that. Passivity achieves nothing.
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I agree. Just acceping and moving on does nothing. We've done in the past with numerous HTC devices, and we always thought HTC understood and wanted to change.
It's like they keep updating the One now, but ofter the One successor comes along, the One will be forgotten.
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I agree. Just acceping and moving on does nothing. We've done in the past with numerous HTC devices, and we always thought HTC understood and wanted to change.
It's like they keep updating the One now, but ofter the One successor comes along, the One will be forgotten.
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ALL u can do is get a different phone next. they will not change this decision. i had inspire 4g/ desire hd, and had the same problem but i didnt stop buying their phones, i just like sense and their harware. that doesnt mean they are doing a good job, at the end of the day phone does same things for me as any current flagship. i will make sure i never get a tegra device no more because u cant get all the goodies on this devices that xda can offer. my 2 cents.
Guys , in may 2014 the HTC one community will be in our same situation today ,14 month old device ,let see if they will stop there too, from my experience HTC thinks xda customers don't represent 1% of their customers ,so it's easy for HTC tho move on and forget about us , even HTC elevate people get nowhere
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I'll never buy a htc phone again.... :/
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Neither will I. I got screwed in the ass figuratively with Motorola's Photon 4G but this is worse. A 14 month old phone IS NOT OLD. I bought my One X+ the day AT&T released it in November 2012, in fact the sales guy at the store had to look for it in back as it just arrived in stock.
I realize the phone has been out internationally since they dropped the ball with LTE support but I feel ripped off and misled. BTW it was slow as molasses opening apps with 4.1, the custom ROM based on 4.2 I installed (after rooting it which is a must) is faster but not by much.
But you see, that's the point. Who in their right mind thinks 14 months is enough for a phone. I wish I had the money to spend so I could get a new phone every year. This is complete bs that a company decides you should get a new phone because they are no longer supporting it.
By the way Tegra chips have nothing to do with it. If they did, why does the Nexus 7 have 4.4?
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Whenever anyone of us say that about the Nexus 7, someone says that the Nexus uses a different version of the Tegra 3, and that ours is unsupported, not that one.
Nexus 7: Tegra 3 T30L (Q1 2012)
One X: Tegra 3 AP33 (Q4 2011)
One X+: Tegra 3 T33 or AP37 (Q2 2012)