Hello, here is my problem:
I bought the phone used (refurbished) from a second hand store. The phone's exterior is is great condition. There is only one problem: The OLED display is terribly burned! Black screen are washed out with heat marks (inverse burns), and coloured screens are burnt.
The phone probably used to be a display phone for an store somewhere. The blue leds are the worst (yes I know what I am talking about), and the green and red ones are okay. I try not to display any images or colors that have more that 30% blue.
I've been ripped off too. The store has a BS no refund policy that they told me after I bought the phone. I can't do an exchange (partially my fault too, because I was afraid they would give me a worse phone!). I had no idea it was burned until I went home and turned it on. I was planning on returning it, but then did some research about the business.. I will never shop there again
I don't want to the phone replaced unless it is a newer model, or better condition than this one (that I have). And I don't want to go to a third party service, unless they actually know what they are doing. The process of removing the screen is time consuming, and very risky. I don't trust anyone but Samsung at the moment.
So.. I have two options:
a) Don't get the phone repaired, and maybe flash a better Rom on it. This will probably ruin my chances of ever getting my phone fixed by Samsung if I am not careful. Short term satisfaction, until the screen dies out (I hate OLED displays for that reason).
Or
b) Pay Samsung to fix or replace my phone. I have contacted them a month ago, and they said that I could get a repair as long as my phone was not rooted. I have no idea how much it should cost (if you know, please tell me!), or, if it is really worth it. Long term satisfaction, a working screen.
And Im not talking little ghosting burns either. My screen is always a greenish yellow tinge. And I cant look at anything without seeing a burned in screen.
And if they flash at&t ics Rom because I am still on GB, then I will root and flash ShoStock 3 instead.
What should I do? What is your experience? And where (and for how much) will Samsung charge for a screen repair? Thanks.
BTW, I live in Canada. It is unlocked.
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Check out http://www.mobiletechvideos.com if you don't want to replace the screen yourself
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Any other input? Advice? Similar problems?
This will help everyone who has the "burn in issue". This is a awesome phone (not the best, but still great). I think it is worth keeping.
I tried that link you posted. They say that they are selling a OEM LED screen. I find that funny, since that probably isn't real. Probably just a mistake on their part, great price though (considering the type of screen).
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andronald said:
Any other input? Advice? Similar problems?
This will help everyone who has the "burn in issue". This is a awesome phone (not the best, but still great). I think it is worth keeping.
I tried that link you posted. They say that they are selling a OEM LED screen. I find that funny, since that probably isn't real. Probably just a mistake on their part, great price though (considering the type of screen).
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I think you're looking at the wrong thing. It's the LCD/Digitizer and it costs $160 (the whole service).
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I think you're looking at the wrong thing. It's the LCD/Digitizer and it costs $160 (the whole service).
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Sorry, I meant the screen they are supposed to be replacing. They say the replacement is a oem lcd screen, which dosent exist for the i777.
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I think you're looking at the wrong thing. It's the LCD/Digitizer and it costs $160 (the whole service).
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Have you tried this service? Or, someone you know?
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If you are going to replace the screen yourself...and I just did it..not hard at all. Etradesupply.com has the lcd digitizer with front housing for under 120 dollars. It includes capacitive button ribbon as well. Yes this company is in China...but it was recommended by a friend of mine and I am very happy with the product. I replaced my screen very easily. If you go that route it is worth it.
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If you are going to replace the screen yourself...and I just did it..not hard at all. Etradesupply.com has the lcd digitizer with front housing for under 120 dollars. It includes capacitive button ribbon as well. Yes this company is in China...but it was recommended by a friend of mine and I am very happy with the product. I replaced my screen very easily. If you go that route it is worth it.
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I am happy that you found a replacement screen for your device.
But, how long is it going to last? I am surprised that companies are spending money to make OLED (not LCD) displays for phones that are outdated. This phone is maybe two years old now, and if the screen is this burnt out: Is it really worth it? Do I have to keep replacing my screen every 2 years, or, is Samsung going to admit that their samoled, and other OLED technologies are "not ready for long term use because they die too quickly"?
Of course not, they just want your money!
A OLED works almost the opposite way as a LCD does. A LCD must send MORE power to a pixel that is displaying a dark pixel, while a LED display uses less energy to power a dark pixel. Almost like those old CUT monitors, it uses the additive theory of light, versus the LCD subtracting theory of light.
But they still use three color pigments: Red, Green, and Blue.
Someone who claims they are selling a i777 LCD digitizer with bottom button row is a nut ball, or, are false advertising what they are selling. I seem to be finding this problem with every third-party part company that sells parts for the OLED display.
I wish it had a LCD: It would last so much longer. Less heat, less problems, less stress, cheaper parts, and more confidence.
My verdict:
I don't trust myself enough to replace the parts myself. I ruined my iphone 3gs that way, and don't want to ruin this phone. If the phone was cheaper (I was also ripped off for the phone), then I would be slightly less reluctant to do it myself.
I will look into it some more, thanks fro your help.
Any Samsung screen replacements yet?
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My verdict:
I don't trust myself enough to replace the parts myself. I ruined my iphone 3gs that way, and don't want to ruin this phone. If the phone was cheaper (I was also ripped off for the phone), then I would be slightly less reluctant to do it myself.
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Just in this statement you're comparing apples to oranges. There is no comparison,They are not manufactured they same. This device is much much easier to disassemble and reassemble then any I-device. And anyone that has this device, knows that the screen longevity is about two years and that the blues are what burns out the quickest, unfortunately its part of the business world, mass production and cutting overhead.
In my opinion, from just reading your posts you're trying to get a quality device at a minimal cost and now you're going to nickle and dime yourself to death. On top of that, getting aggravated every time you look at your device. Save yourself time, money and aggravation and get a new device...besides.... this one, even though its still a great device and still being supported by great devs is a dinosaur and will in the near future be shelved.
Veni, vidi, vici.
Just my own opinion, but I think they're well aware that their oled displays don't last long. Odds are their thinking is that if your average display lasts between 2-3 years it'll help push you towards another new device. Just something to consider.
I have been looking at the Nexus 4. This phone (I777), is the perfect size phone for me. Not huge, but not small either. I just really hate the OLED. If it were ten years into the future (assuming that the led technology has a longer life span), then I would not be having this problem.
The nexus 4 is slightly bigger than the S2.. I like to buy older phones, because they come at reduced cost. Maybe I will wait for the next nexus to come out, then buy the old or new one.
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I have been looking at the Nexus 4. This phone (I777), is the perfect size phone for me. Not huge, but not small either. I just really hate the OLED. If it were ten years into the future (assuming that the led technology has a longer life span), then I would not be having this problem.
The nexus 4 is slightly bigger than the S2.. I like to buy older phones, because they come at reduced cost. Maybe I will wait for the next nexus to come out, then buy the old or new one.
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Whenever my s2 dies, I'll be getting a nexus device. I love the i777, hopefully it'll last me a couple years....if I don't accidentally destroy it at work lol
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I installed Shostock3 (I dont have warrenty, so no need to go to samsung). I am thinking about ordering a new screen from etradesuppy (or something like that, cant remember the name).
Im sure some of the posters here already knew that! ;P
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Hi guys,
New thing, i notice this on both i9100 phones (the one i sended back and the new one from today). There are like to almost same dimension parallel stains/distortions(?) on the bottom half of the screen and you can notice them only if is dark/semi-dark in the room and your phone is in front of a monitor/hdtv with a withe screen, in other conditions they can't be notice and from what i can tell they don't alter the image in any way. I will post a image from the first phone (the second one is almost the same) if you guys notice them or not, or you have a theory, please post.
Thanks.
Looks to me like a small manufacturing mark or defect in the polarising filter on the screen. I wouldn't be concerned with this, i doubt you'll ever get an LCD that doesn't have something like this.
the reason it is only showing up in front of a TV or screen is because the light coming off it is polarised. normally this shouldn't be visible, so the manufacturers aren't concerned
Somebody please correct me if i am wrong
No, i'm not concerned. I think is probably from the machine that holds the glass during production or assembly (because there are two i9100 with the same shape of the stains). I just wandered if other owners of i9100 notice the same thing with their phones, but from what i see nobody bothers...oh well, thanks anyway.
Well my phone doesn't have that. And phones I've had before haven't had that. If it doesn't bother you then that's fine...personally I'd be and would get a replacement.
These phones should be *perfect*
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Well my phone doesn't have that. And phones I've had before haven't had that. If it doesn't bother you then that's fine...personally I'd be and would get a replacement.
These phones should be *perfect*
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Ok sir, i will play this game, lets talk facts:
- This is my second phone after returning the first phone with the same problem and some package issue.
- The two phones come from the same online retailer but diffident distributors, this means is bigger than a batch problem.
- The problem is almost identical (two stains same shape), but visible only in one condition (mentioned above) and only from a very wide angle (btw if you tilt the phone in that light and angle the stains change color from darker to lighter).
- It doesn't affect in any way, shape or form the generated image, it can only be seen with the lcd off and in a fluorescent light.
- If you return for the second time the device, you have to wait for betwin 2-10 days (again) for the service department to come with a resolve and you risk to get a money back resolve, witch mean from 4-14 days to transfer your money in your bank account and after you start from the beginning with another retailer (all retailers have the same distributors).
With all above taken into account, honestly, what would you do?
*Hellover, let's play a game*
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I think you're very unlucky to get a replacement with the same problem. Like I said, mine has an absolutely perfect screen, and given the fact this is an expensive flagship handset, everybody should have a perfect screen. Even on cheap phones I've never seen the poor screen QC that I've seen on the GS2, it's a shame. But NEVER accept anything less than flawless. Imagine the blob gets bigger and distorts the image somehow? You will be angry!
Personally, it would be hassle waiting for a replacement or a refund etc, but I'd much rather have my money back or a flawless phone, than hold on to a clearly flawed one. It's bothered you enough to post up on XDA about it. Seriously man, just return it. Maybe get a cheap phone and wait til the Nexus Prime comes out...
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I think you're very unlucky to get a replacement with the same problem. Like I said, mine has an absolutely perfect screen, and given the fact this is an expensive flagship handset, everybody should have a perfect screen. Even on cheap phones I've never seen the poor screen QC that I've seen on the GS2, it's a shame. But NEVER accept anything less than flawless. Imagine the blob gets bigger and distorts the image somehow? You will be angry!
Personally, it would be hassle waiting for a replacement or a refund etc, but I'd much rather have my money back or a flawless phone, than hold on to a clearly flawed one. It's bothered you enough to post up on XDA about it. Seriously man, just return it. Maybe get a cheap phone and wait til the Nexus Prime comes out...
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GOD Damm it...man! Now i have to w8 for the "money back guarantee!!!"... i send it back because of YOU!....no man, thanks, you are right, i will settle for one with flawless everything. I attached a picture with the old one and the ex new one side by side.
I will change the retailer. lets hope third is a charm...
Later.
Well, third device, second retailer, same defect. I'm done, i didn't try the withe version but then again i don't like withe, so i will keep this one.
That sucks man. You could upgrade to galaxy nexus soon though!
Yeah, the screen cracked from the inside of the phone, the display is black and there are white lines going across the screen. Do you guys have any idea how much it would cost to replace the screen? Im not sure if the digitizer is broken either. Should I just wait for an upgrade?
Is the Nexus coming to AT&T?
Thanks
I don't think you can get just the screen. I think the screen and digitizer are a single piece. On eBay that runs 200 ish.
I doubt the Nexus will be here soon, subsidized on att. I bet there will be a subsidized Nexus before we see a subsidized Galaxy S III, but rumors keep pointing to May for international, and Samsung hinting the announcement to US release will be shorter than the S II.
In your feet, personally I would get a Nexus S. If you can upgrade now I would save that upgrade for the S III, or Nexus, I'm partial to the capacitive buttons vs on-screen. The AT&T Nexus S isn't much more than the replacement screen, and slightly more than the Captivate. I would worry about a replacement screen being used.
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Hey OP,
I recently had my inside LCD crack as well. I sent it into Samsung Repair while still under Manufacturers Warranty and it cost me ~$145. I'm not eligible for an upgrade anytime soon so I shelled out the cash. Your call - took a week from sending out to getting it back!
This phone doesn't have a digitizer, as it's a all-in-one piece. The cost would be over $100 for sure, plus the labor if you pay someone to fix it. Sorry bro!
Ok turns out its going to cost 200 bucks to fix. F that, ill just wait for the HTC One XL for a month.
Any ideas on how to wipe phone from PC since screen in now unusable?
CollegeProfesor said:
Ok turns out its going to cost 200 bucks to fix. F that, ill just wait for the HTC One XL for a month.
Any ideas on how to wipe phone from PC since screen in now unusable?
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You can do it blindly, but why bother. They won't bother checking.
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You can do it blindly, but why bother. They won't bother checking.
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What do you mean they wont bother checking?
Im selling the phone broken, somebody is going to fix the screen and eventually have everything that was on my phone before it broke
Throw it down a few more times.
You can try Kies, but I doubt it will work with MIUI.
Another thing you can try doing is shelling out maybe $15 or so for a USB -> HDMI adapter, and seeing if you can get into Siyah and wipe it all. It will still have MIUI on it, but that's easy to flash off for whoever is buying it. Then, after you're done, return the adapter.
Actually...can someone confirm the adapter works in CWM/before booting everything? If not, see if you could still use the touch to wipe from MIUI.
Thats all I got.
What ROM are you running?
The ICS ROMs default MTP enabled, without having to do anything on the screen. You may be able to use Odin one-click for the leak to install it, but you may have to complete the set up wizard for that to work.
Can you master clear in Odin from download mode, or do you have to be booted up with debug on?
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OP, how high was you standing when dropping your phone?
If you was on the ground then I am totally disappointed.
Reason: for so long, people keep claiming that the SGS2 screen is far superior compare to the iPhone4S on the drop test since it built with Corning Gorilla glass or whatever marketing name it is. In some youtube videos, people even on the roof of house and performed a drop test for both iPhone4S and the SGS2 and claim the SGS2 not even a scratch.
I just hate fault advertising.
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OP, how high was you standing when dropping your phone?
If you was on the ground then I am totally disappointed.
Reason: for so long, people keep claiming that the SGS2 screen is far superior compare to the iPhone4S on the drop test since it built with Corning Gorilla glass or whatever marketing name it is. In some youtube videos, people even on the roof of house and performed a drop test for both iPhone4S and the SGS2 and claim the SGS2 not even a scratch.
I just hate fault advertising.
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People are talking about the glass screen not the samoled+ screen.
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OP, how high was you standing when dropping your phone?
If you was on the ground then I am totally disappointed.
Reason: for so long, people keep claiming that the SGS2 screen is far superior compare to the iPhone4S on the drop test since it built with Corning Gorilla glass or whatever marketing name it is. In some youtube videos, people even on the roof of house and performed a drop test for both iPhone4S and the SGS2 and claim the SGS2 not even a scratch.
I just hate fault advertising.
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And most of the time, you'll see that the glass breaking or not depends on a lot of variables, like angle of fall, velocity, spin maybe?, exact location of the hit, etc.
Truth is, when the iPhone decided not to cover the sides of the front and back glass, they should have known it would have caused more shatters. Samsung decided to put more protection on. Doesn't mean it's perfect though.
Sometimes if it just falls just right...even from 6 inches off the ground it could shatter
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What ROM are you running?
The ICS ROMs default MTP enabled, without having to do anything on the screen. You may be able to use Odin one-click for the leak to install it, but you may have to complete the set up wizard for that to work.
Can you master clear in Odin from download mode, or do you have to be booted up with debug on?
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MIUI, i need to be booted with debug
votinh said:
OP, how high was you standing when dropping your phone?
If you was on the ground then I am totally disappointed.
Reason: for so long, people keep claiming that the SGS2 screen is far superior compare to the iPhone4S on the drop test since it built with Corning Gorilla glass or whatever marketing name it is. In some youtube videos, people even on the roof of house and performed a drop test for both iPhone4S and the SGS2 and claim the SGS2 not even a scratch.
I just hate fault advertising.
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Knee high while taking a dump. Slipped off my knee while I was watching Breaking Bad
Thanks OP and all.
I have no intention to drop-test my SGS2 but keep seeing claims, which is completely fault as proved, that our device is so superior so I believe it, but now, I know it's not so great as claim. In fact, just read another thread from other member saying his phone screen was cracked when slipping out of his pocket.
Hi guys,
I would really appreciate some expert advise on my screen.
It has some horizontal lines/banding running through it, near the bottom of the screen is worse, and it's worse at lowest brightness setting but is still there at 100% brightness.
Hopefully you can see them in the picture although they don't actualy look as bad in the photo as they do in real life!
I took it into the place I purchased it from and one guy told me it was my fault because I have it in my pocket all day and where I sit down and my jeans go tight it has damaged/bent the screen. I find this crazy as I don't even were tight jeans, I skateboard to and from work and actually wear quite loose clothing. Anyway where else am I supposed to keep my phone?
And another guy in the same store told me that it isn't covered under warranty because this is just something that happens with SAMOLED screens and it's something you have to live with.
I know 2 people with S2's and their screens are perfect........
Does anyone else have this issue on their screen?
Is it a normal characteristic of SAMOLED screens?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers guys
I dont know but I dont have that-my screens perfect.
From what I see its a faulty screen and Id send it to Samsung to honour their warranty.
The screen shold be faultless for the duration of the warranty period ie the last day the screen should be like the first day.
And Id have given that repair guy a slap.
It's not normal. You should send it in.
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Thanks for the response guys. I guess I'll just have to persist and not take no for an answer.
The only thing that concerns me is the terrible QC on devises these days.....what on earth is going on?
If I send this back for a repair there is nothing to say I won't get a new screen with another defect, maybe a yellowish tint or some dead pixels.
I have been reading about other issues on I9100 screens and there are several.
I think it's terrible that today when we are buying a device we have to come to a site like this and research possible defects before we buy....surely this isn't right!
I was wanting to buy a Nexus 7 but after the screen issues I've read about I don't think I will.
I was also looking at buying an i9300, same thing, there are so many defects that you could come across.
When spending this sort of money on a device I really don't think this is acceptable, yet companies are getting away with it.
I'm not sure what can be done but I hope something changes and QC improves.
Right now I'm stuck with an S2 with a defective screen and I'm weighing up weather this defect is more bearable than maybe getting a new screen with a different defect.
Come on Samsung........,Sort your S**T out!
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I'd just like to ask about what screen issues? I'm fairly sure all of those quality issues with the screen have been sorted out by now, regarding lift etc. Someone in my family owns a Nexus 7 and it is the smoothest performing Android tablet that I've ever seen, even more so than my TF300 that I'm typing this on (although I now have a custom ROM on it that works very quickly). The screen density is great, no lift that I can notice, and overall it is a powerhouse of a tablet!
As for the rest of the build...I'm shocked by the quality. Its extremely solid for a plastic-backed device. It almost feels like metal its so tough, although it is still soft-to-the touch (absolutely no flex, though. Zero. Zip. Just soft to the touch as said)
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I was just over at the nexus 7 thread and the first 2 stickies in the general section are dedicated to problems, kinda put me off.
By the sounds of it your family member got lucky with their N7.
Just go to the N7 forum and have a read, the problems still aren't fixed in the latest batch.
Anyway this is kinda off topic so best to discuss in the N7 forum.
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Theyll probably just load stock 4.0.4 onto it-that was their attempt to fix my wifes overheating/freezing s2.
I would email samsung directly and put it back.And dont settle for any half arsed repair,make sure your satisfied.Only downside is the time the phone is away from you cos its an inconvenience.
They also like to get out of warranty with the usual "water damaged" excuse.
On a side note,they locked horns with me-and lost.Bought a phone from a catalogue company(the overheating one),wasnt happy so bought a note,complained and the £450 for the s2 was refunded,and the girl told me "to destroy the phone" rather than sending it back.
Loaded rootbox/dk and its perfect.Gave it to my son just to use for shooting videos.
Yeah that's what I thought they might do, I don't care what firmware they put on it I'll just restore my CWM back up when I get it back.
I hope they don't leave that diagnostics box thing on the screen though, that sounds like right mission to have to remove.
In fact the guy in the shop I bought it from said a factory reset would fix it, the muppet, It is clearly a faulty screen.
Mine was having some overheating issues too when I first bought it and I took it in a week after purchase and he said there's nothing I could do because I had installed a custom ROM, I hadn't, it was Go Launcher I installed. Just goes to show how much this guy knows!
I actually bought this phone on 14th March with ICS installed straight out of the box, which was weird, it was obviously a very early release (LP2) and was why the phone was over heating.
Overheating is normally a kernel/ROM issue so your very lucky you got to keep your S2. Score!
Hopefully if I return it they'll realise it IS a faulty screen and just replace it, like I said though it's a bit of a gamble with S2 screens it seems.
I just don't think issues like these should be this common on expensive, high end devices.
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I keep my eye on most hardware problems and Ive seen a lot more successes (screens)than failures....prob 85% happy.
Make sure no traces of rooting etc is on your phone when sending it back.
Good luck!
I'd say it's faulty screen. Mine has no such artefacts...
Oh, and I carry my SGS2 in trouser pocket, often bundled with companys Blackberry...
Pretty sure there are no characteristics of SAMOLED to deteriorate over time. I use mine lowest brightness all the time and car in pockets etc and screen is a clean white with no visible lines.
I think I'll bite the bullet and part with my S2 for 2 weeks while it's repaired
If I'm wanting to remove all traces of root etc I was planning to:
Boot in recovery and then format cache, system, data and internal storage. Then flash my countries latest stock firmware package.
Is that all I need to do?
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My S2 and my wife's S2 have absolutely flawless screens. Not a single thing wrong with it. Id say take it back and don't take no for an answer because the screen has to be perfect.
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Wow, I didn't know it was that bad...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=9771
Yes me too
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Yeah, and they're just people here on XDA alot of common users don't use this site or may not even notice some of problems because they don't use the function.
Update on my screen issue:
I'm currently trying to get a replacement phone as they have now agreed that the screen is indeed faulty. About time
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Dont know abou you guys, but from what i've read Super AMOLEDs do get burn-ins.
I played poker on my sgs2 really long, and now the cards are burnt into the screen. I have yellow tint in the middle of the screen, looking like 5 playing cards. Also the place where the statusbar is, shows blue tint on completly white background.
Do you have any app that matches your screen faulty pixels? Maybe keyboard or something? I have an app called Super Manager and with that i can make the whole screen white, grey, black, and RGB, so you could further inspect it.
Let us know if warranty will cover the burn ins, or if there's some problems... good luck with unrooting, oh and dont forget to reset the custom rom/kernel counter with triangle away.
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I'm sorry to say this...
Well, regrding the screen issues on the SGS2...
AMOLED's and derivates from it (SAMOLED, etc...) do suffer from the burn-in effect commonly found on older PLASMA screen TV's and displays.
When I first bought this phone, I only saw it's benefits regarding to it's brightness, colors etc...
But after few months have passed I've noticed that when I have full white (or bright) page open on my phone's browser, I see ghost from an android keyboard and at about half of the screen I could see shadows of widgets that I normally use!
So I ran the *#00#* test and, indeed, there were alot of artefacts on the screen. As of today, I'm reconsidering my purchase of this, otherwise excellent phone, and thinking of switching it for some of the competitors in the line of existence.
Really, it is very dissapointing fact that device like this, which should be top of the line product, suffers from a issue like this!
Currently I'm browsing the adds in search for somethin similar that will replace my SGS2 and with much hope without, ghosts on the screen... :crying::crying::crying:
Hey guys, so it seems I have a near perfect HTC One, where I even don't have that gap at the top, but I do however have on the left side near the top left corner a small manufacturing defect that leaves about 2-3mm of the LCD edging out a bit making it feel as if brushing against a sharp ruler on that spot. I rarely have my hand there to really feel that defect through natural use of the phone and certainly not visible unless specifically looking for the LCD edge line very very closely, my concern is if I go in and swap the phone that the swapped phone will have other things wrong with it.
Should I bother replacing? I have no experience replacing/exchanging the same exact phone for a better build quality so this is why I ask.
It's a roll of the dice..
My original pre-order was almost mint but had a similar / minor flaw. I called AT&T and they sent me a replacement..
The replacement they sent had a more brown'ish looking screen and the backlit buttons were very dim. It also had a small gap on the top.
I kept the original and sent back the replacement that had just arrived.
I then went to an AT&T store and the replacement he brought out had some flaw where the backlit buttons would only turn on if it was pitch dark. I refused that replacement and still have my original pre-order One.
If you have one that's close to mint and it only has a minor flaw, I'd keep it..
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raqball said:
It's a roll of the dice..
My original pre-order was almost mint but had a similar / minor flaw. I called AT&T and they sent me a replacement..
The replacement they sent had a more brown'ish looking screen and the backlit buttons were very dim. It also had a small gap on the top.
I kept the original and sent back the replacement that had just arrived.
I then went to an AT&T store and the replacement he brought out had some flaw where the backlit buttons would only turn on if it was pitch dark. I refused that replacement and still have my original pre-order One.
If you have one that's close to mint and it only has a minor flaw, I'd keep it..
My .02
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By your descriptions this phone's QC sounds like a piece of ****.
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By your descriptions this phone's QC sounds like a piece of ****.
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I don't think it's any secret that HTC has a few QC problems to correct..
The normal user would probably never notice to be honest. We are the 1% that are hardcore users and notice everything.
Most people open the box, turn it on, and don't even arrange their icons never mind tinker..
None of the 3 I had were serious flaws that a normal user would even notice..
raqball said:
I don't think it's any secret that HTC has a few QC problems to correct..
The normal user would probably never notice to be honest. We are the 1% that are hardcore users and notice everything.
Most people open the box, turn it on, and don't even arrange their icons never mind tinker..
None of the 3 I had were serious flaws that a normal user would even notice..
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I don't think their parts are manufactured to a tolerance small enough. It should be down to about 0.001" instead of around 0.003".
raqball said:
I don't think it's any secret that HTC has a few QC problems to correct..
The normal user would probably never notice to be honest. We are the 1% that are hardcore users and notice everything.
Most people open the box, turn it on, and don't even arrange their icons never mind tinker..
None of the 3 I had were serious flaws that a normal user would even notice..
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True.
akira02rex said:
By your descriptions this phone's QC sounds like a piece of ****.
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It was the same with the One X unfortunately.
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raqball said:
It's a roll of the dice..
My original pre-order was almost mint but had a similar / minor flaw. I called AT&T and they sent me a replacement..
The replacement they sent had a more brown'ish looking screen and the backlit buttons were very dim. It also had a small gap on the top.
I kept the original and sent back the replacement that had just arrived.
I then went to an AT&T store and the replacement he brought out had some flaw where the backlit buttons would only turn on if it was pitch dark. I refused that replacement and still have my original pre-order One.
If you have one that's close to mint and it only has a minor flaw, I'd keep it..
My .02
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Thanks for sharing your experience, definitely going to stick with this one then considering the hassle and very low probability of finding that "perfect" One.
Also, I want to clarify that the phone is absolutely stunning every time I pick it up and am impressed and excited by it just as I was when watching videos or reviews for it before its release while waiting for my preorder. I've had it since the 18th and certainly not bored with it, which goes to show for something I think. These minor QC issues aren't even noticed by the larger majority, as said in previous post.
Thanks guys/gals, my nerves are calmed about exchanging it
Hi there!
I'm from the Sony Xperia S section, but I have a question.
My friend's i9300 fell out of his pocket when he was just getting in his car. Somehow, he drove over it, stopped the car on the driveway and went to see what he drove over.
The screen -- all, glass, the AMOLED screen and the digitizer -- is completely shattered, not working at all. The phone, however, seems perfect inside (also boots up and connects to the PC correctly).
Not rooted, no bootloader unlock (or whatever that's called on these sides of XDA ), nothing. He's a noob user, only made calls, SMS and occasional pictures.
So he (having lots of cash) said if I can fix it, but if not, I can keep it. We saw that a new digitizer/screen/glass combo costs around 140$, used about 130$ (take into account that this is central europe, not USA, Canada, UK or Germany -- the delivery fees from anywhere but Slovenia are 50€ for each package).
In the end, I get to keep the phone. It's a nice piece of hardware and I'd like to see how it'd do as a daily driver and to see how development is going around here (seeing as you people already have PA 3+ and other goodies). But damn, that's just too expensive for a screen (note that a Xperia S screen+digitizer+glass costs ~30$, and this one has more ppi at only 4.3").
My question to you is, how long do I have to wait for working pieces of hardware to emerge that will cost around 60$? Note that a new Galaxy S2 screen costs around 60$ and last year's first Sony flagship screen costs 30$.
I'm thinking one more year, maybe?
Thanks a lot for any help at all (PLEASE, make this a discussion thread, I want to read your opinions and speculation ),
--someone755
P.S.
Also, if my 'one year' theory turns out to be true, it'll be just in time for a replacement phone. Would you guys recommend the S3 in 2014 (or even in 2013)?
You must be thinking that I'm going mad with using a 2012 phone in 2014-15.
P.P.S.
If anyone knows where the SMS messages are stored and can tell me how to get them (IF that's even possible) off the phone without the need for a screen, that'd be great... It just seems like I at least own the SMS messages to the guy...
P.P.P.S.
The notification light is blinking in blue... Does that mean something is wrong or is it just a notification...? I figure the latter, since I heard the sounds of it booting to Android...
Also, there's this weird water-y sound effect when I press the home button. Could that be the famous lockscreen?
Sorry for being a pain, I'm just visiting to see if it's all worth it (might sell the parts if the components never get any cheaper)...
Notification blue, is just that.
Sms, you could possibly get an hdmi cable if you are sure about fixing it in the long run and you will be able to use the phone through your tv...until you wait for a screen.
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Thanks for the reply.
Well I don't feel like buying a new cable adapter every time I have a phone to fix, plus there's no way to control the screen because the digitizer is also broken.
I don't really care all that much for fixing the phone, I'd just like to hear your opinions on how long until prices go down to see if fixing is even worth it...
someone755 said:
Thanks for the reply.
Well I don't feel like buying a new cable adapter every time I have a phone to fix, plus there's no way to control the screen because the digitizer is also broken.
I don't really care all that much for fixing the phone, I'd just like to hear your opinions on how long until prices go down to see if fixing is even worth it...
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You can plug a mouse in too
The price sounds about right. I struggle with an Xperia screen being $30 though. What? The Screen is always the most expensive component. Digitisers / Glass is always cheap £15, £20 for most phones but screens (LCD, AMOLED etc) are always expensive.
I don't see these components coming down. There will be a need for them for years as some people will run their Galaxy for 3+ years.
In 5 years, the prices could even go up due to rarity
But if the USB port is already connected to a screen, there isn't any more place for a mouse...
For the Xperia S screen, I found you a link: http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-sony-xperia-s-lt26i-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly.html So I missed it by $10...
Well I also thought about the price increase, but I'm seeing the S2 as an example... It started out at about $100 but nowadays you get one for $60...
I guess the best thing is to wait, no?
Wait only if you don't mind no supply or a price increase .
Trade that off versus your thought that its overpriced at present .
jje
Well if prices for the screen increase, thee prices for the other components should also increase, right? In that case, if prices don't fall, I can sell what's left of the phone... Right...?
Since everything is working perfectly, I don't see why not...
someone755;42934541I found you a link: [url said:
http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-sony-xperia-s-lt26i-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly.html[/url] So I missed it by $10...
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Ah ok. It's an LCD screen though, not AMOLED. ...and much smaller. so it's not a fair comparison
Oh, I completely forgot about the Amoled screen...
Though isn't it more expensive to make a screen with more ppi, albeit smaller? Would be more logical (as it's harder and more complex). But then again, the way Amoled pixels are arranged is also the most complex thing ever...
Quoting GSMarena
For the S2; Super AMOLED Plus capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors | 480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density)
And for the S3; Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors | 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.8 inches (~306 ppi pixel density)
I've also read a lot that the S2's screen wasn't as breakable as the S3's. Could that be one of the causes that the S2's screens started off way cheaper?
someone755 said:
Well if prices for the screen increase, thee prices for the other components should also increase, right?
I doubt it .
jje
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Well why not?
If the screens become rare, shouldn't that also mean that, say, vibrators would also become rare?
I've been thinking about connecting the thing to a screen and using it as a poor pc for media (movies, pics, etc.) or a small personal file server. In theory, that could work, since this still is a pretty powerful device...
Also, I've seen some Chinese sites selling fake screens and digitizers. I have yet to find a version that is compatible with the i9300... Again, would be grateful for any links
Screens are the most common things to need replacing due to accidental breakage
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