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I have a question please:
I have uproot it the EVO 3D, two moths back, and I have get this two updates, (but unsuccessfully fail) not sure if I need them
Android 2.3.4
HTC 3.0
Software 2.08.651.3
1-system enhancement 29.13 mb
2- OTA_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5-2.08.651.3_release_2353522hivy65lggcg2tmb.zip
How to update?
or
Do I need them?
IN the past, I have post sincere question to my concern, however I have found that many of you don't care for us newbies, is discouraging for some of us, that we are trying to keep with some of you who seems to know much, about gadgets, but not about people.
So help us out, we are part of the community that use this system.
thanks for your patience's
olmo47
olmo47 said:
I have a question please:
I have uproot it the EVO 3D, two moths back, and I have get this two updates, (but unsuccessfully fail) not sure if I need them
Android 2.3.4
HTC 3.0
Software 2.08.651.3
1-system enhancement 29.13 mb
2- OTA_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5-2.08.651.3_release_2353522hivy65lggcg2tmb.zip
How to update?
or
Do I need them?
IN the past, I have post sincere question to my concern, however I have found that many of you don't care for us newbies, is discouraging for some of us, that we are trying to keep with some of you who seems to know much, about gadgets, but not about people.
So help us out, we are part of the community that use this system.
thanks for your patience's
olmo47
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Is your phone rooted? Did you unlock your phone using Revolutionary or the HTC unlock method? If you're not sure, pull the battery out and put it back in, then hold volume down while you turn the phone back on. Look to see what bootloader version you have, see if it's s-off or s-on, and if you're on hboot 1.5, see if it says locked, unlocked, or relocked.
I'm confused on what you wanna know. If you're rooted then you never wanna take an update. If you're not rooted and don't plan on rooting then yeah go ahead and take the update.
And hey guys, lets help him and not flame him? Flaming goes nowhere. Should be in q/a section btw
s-on RL
HBoot 1.5
alainater said:
I'm confused on what you wanna know. If you're rooted then you never wanna take an update. If you're not rooted and don't plan on rooting then yeah go ahead and take the update.
And hey guys, lets help him and not flame him? Flaming goes nowhere. Should be in q/a section btw
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Truly I didn't know, not sure (if I don't need the updates) how to check on the phone so update won't show.
thank for being patiences.
olmo47
w0rdOo said:
Is your phone rooted? Did you unlock your phone using Revolutionary or the HTC unlock method? If you're not sure, pull the battery out and put it back in, then hold volume down while you turn the phone back on. Look to see what bootloader version you have, see if it's s-off or s-on, and if you're on hboot 1.5, see if it says locked, unlocked, or relocked.
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S-on RL
HBoot 1.50.0000
alainater said:
I'm confused on what you wanna know. If you're rooted then you never wanna take an update. If you're not rooted and don't plan on rooting then yeah go ahead and take the update.
And hey guys, lets help him and not flame him? Flaming goes nowhere. Should be in q/a section btw
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I like to apologize if what I said in my post irritated some, my intention wasn't that of 'Flaming', sorry.
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Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
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Do I have to repost it here or your have transfer it to the Q/A forum?
thanks
olmo47 said:
I like to apologize if what I said in my post irritated some, my intention wasn't that of 'Flaming', sorry.
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No, I was saying usually if people post in the development section with non development stuff they get flamed I was trying to save you haha
Swyped from mah 3vo!
alainater said:
No, I was saying usually if people post in the development section with non development stuff they get flamed I was trying to save you haha
Swyped from mah 3vo!
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thanks, I truly need help, to know how to do things on the evo, but some of the term you guys use (technical) is some what overwhelming (I reed as much as I can understand) and hard to keep up.
thanks again.
olmo47 said:
thanks, I truly need help, to know how to do things on the evo, but some of the term you guys use (technical) is some what overwhelming (I reed as much as I can understand) and hard to keep up.
thanks again.
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Haha no problem man. If you need anything pm me!
Swyped from mah 3vo!
But so if you're s-on most likely you aren't rooted. Are you wanting to tour your phone? Or are you just wondering if you would take the ota update?
Swyped from mah 3vo!
olmo47 said:
thanks, I truly need help, to know how to do things on the evo, but some of the term you guys use (technical) is some what overwhelming (I reed as much as I can understand) and hard to keep up.
thanks again.
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I had the same problems with my phone. It took me about 4 days to get my phone rooted. which was today.
1. Update your phone to 2.17
2. Go to HTC Dev and unlock your phone. if this does not work reinstall the RUU from http://shipped-roms.com/ match up your phone software with the RUU software. you can download the EXE or Zip if you want. Retry HTC Unlock
3. follow one of these two guides
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22492525
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
4. After this you should be rooted and installing roms in no time.
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
k9time said:
This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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This is the best thread to learn about what's what and how to's!
Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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This has got to be the easiest method of rooting. It's what I've used on a few different phones and has never failed me!
Custom roms vary in stability. If they are based on source code they are going to be more stable than others. They will say "built from official source". Other roms can be just as stable depending on the developer and how much effort was put into the rom. You have to read the threads on the roms to compare issues if any, then pick the one you want to try.
The best advice I can give you is before you install or flash anything you verify it's for your device, and read the instructions at LEAST twice!
Welcome to xda ... I suggest you first read the xda rules. This is the general forum. Not for questions. There is a Q &A forum to ask questions in ... After searching.
That said ... Super everything thread is for you.
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Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
Agoattamer said:
That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
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Whoa, that's freakin bizarre that it does an auto reinstall of the stock recovery. very creative.
Wow, Thanks to everybody who got involved. I didn't know that I had this many replies, I just got a notification for the first reply. Thanks a lot.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread since I having the same concern, and before I get flamed. Please let me know which approach would be suitable to ask more questions while staying on topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
lousk said:
Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread, having the same concern, and before I get flamed at, I just want to be certain I'm not hijacking this thread. Before starting a new thread having the same concern, please let me know which way would be suitable to ask more questions on the same topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
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Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
sumchans said:
Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
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You can always copy/paste the link and remove the www. and .com then someone with more posts can repost it for ya.
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
sumchans said:
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
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No problem
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
440bro said:
No problem
Thanks again 440bro.
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Thank you so much for your replies and links.
I'll follow up and let you know of the outcome or if I have additional question(s).
You guys are great!
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
asubiyyal said:
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Click on your phone info.
Write down the last 3 digits if your build version.
If it is MJ7 enjoy your Samsung iphone or take the risk of Chinese infiltration with vroot.
If its anything else, type go to GOOGLE.COM and type in those 3 letters followed by the word "Root".
Good luck!
Doesn't get much simpler than that.. :sly:
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
asubiyyal said:
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
k1mu said:
You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
I have MJ7 also and I've looked at root alternatives and it's risky at best. Let me know if you find a less risky way.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
asubiyyal said:
Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
k1mu said:
The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
asubiyyal said:
Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
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Perhaps you could post on one of the T-Mobile threads here and explain what "doesn't work" means, as they may be able to help you.
Non-Verizon SIMs work for me, but I'm not using a SIM from some other US carrier.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Sorry if you thinking this is "trolling by a veteran user".
First, you need to understand: the i545 is not SIM locked. Any SIM will work.
However, there's some question as to whether or not that SIM will allow other US carriers to work. Mine works with a SIM that gives me AT&T data. (It's from a European carrier.)
Here's how you can answer your question. First, look at the top of this window.
There's a box on the top reading "Search this forum".
I entered "tmobile" there, then got the following threads:
Tmobile sim and samsung galaxy s4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397984
Does the new MJ7 firmware update block GSM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523307
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478411
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
[Q]OOC Verizon S4 on Tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
Okay I have a vzw galaxy s4 working in tmobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457568
Then, searches for "T-mobile":
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
[Q] T-Mobile on VZW S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464730
VZW Galaxy S4 can it be use on tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447312&highlight=t-mobile
Probably very useful:
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
Using any one of those will connect you with people trying to use their Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
rshipa 1313
Haha nice work you guys. I will try and then post in couple of days about the above solutions/links you all have given. Thanks again!
joshm.1219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
Yes it can be done. Basic strps are to get a
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Sorry. Hit send too early..
Basic steps are to get a sim.
Then go and see if it picked ip the APN settings. If not you should be able to create a new APN and put in the values manually. Search on xda for the values
Finally. Theres a thread in xda that explains how to download a phone info app. Which will allow you to set the phone radio to LTE/GSM.
last thing you want to check is that you can do wifi, sms, mms, voice mail, etc.
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asubiyyal said:
I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
I really can't explain the purpose of this site any better than this post by Kyphur:
"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
joshm.1219 said:
A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
EDIT: P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working. Or maybe I ddnt search the right sections. I'll do XDA search through Google now
asubiyyal said:
I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working.
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I didn't think you were being a rude, but I just thought I would share with you post that explains the purpose of XDA very well. It might seem harsh because it's out of context & was originally directed at some a$$hole.
We were all newbs here, I'm no programmer I just like learning code because I like learning how all of this stuff works. I'm glad you want to start learning to. All I did in the beginning was google search "rooting" and a bunch of write-ups & video's came up that taught me a lot.
I think this all falls under off topic this is really not the place for senior members to try b!+ch slap junior members, staying on topic is how this site operates
Hello all,
This is my first post here at XDA!
So Ive searched so please forgive me as I'm still learning quite a bit.. But having an MK2 GS4 - why am I only limited to using Safestrap and limited ROMS? Currently running Hyperdrive which is great, but found my S3 w/ IllusionRom to be MUCH more customizable and clean.
Again, I'm newer to rooting but why is it that everything seems limited right now? After reading and reading, it appears that developers are sort of dancing around voiding warranty and Knox software.. Will this be resolved at some point? I basically want to have the ability to flash some of these other cool aosp roms, etc. I could care less about voiding warranty's. I want all this stock rom warranty crap off my phone!
Thanks guys!
I'm not a developer, but it is my understanding that an unlocked boot loader is needed for the type of ROMs you want to flash. And the S4's bootloader is locked for every version other than MDK.
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Questions belong in Q and A, and users are expected to use search and read before posting duplicate threads...
here is some help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613161
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49493081&postcount=6
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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Don't really know how you can expect an answer to your questions. I don't know of anyone on these boards that can see into the future. Will MK2 be unlocked? Doesn't look like it, but who knows. All you can do is keep an eye on the forums and hope for the best.
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rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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This question you are asking has had countless threads and posts devote to the locked bootloader on the S4 since the release of ME7 firmware. Not to get cheesey here but asking if the bootloader willl be unlocked is a ridiculous as no one has an answer to that and dozens of devs have been working on it for months on their spare time. The only mechanism available is safestrap and we are lucky to have that working for us becasue sooner or later that will most likley be blocked down the road. If you want an honest answer, in my view, we probably will not have a bootloader exploit comparable to the one found for MDK. Devs are working on a Kerec exploit but haven't been able to find one yet. Samsung and other cell phone manuf are responding to the Carriers requirements of having an unhackable phones because the enterprise customers are making that a requirement. The hacking community is a factional component of sales and if you want a phone for running custom ROMS, best save your money and get a DEV phone as that is the most likely way to do it.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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I have high hopes that some talented person or group will eventually find a work around for this boot loader issue whether safestrap(hashcode) figure out a kexec exploit. Or another Loki type exploit is found. The most current thread on this situation can be found in general and surge1223 is the op. But your right from a custom ROM standpoint the s3 is in a better position. Good luck.
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Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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Hit up Swappa like I did and grab a MDK S4 and wait for it to come like a Lil kid at Christmas....
Which is what I'm doing. Or jump ship over to like... Sprint and trip your Knox flag and install CWM.
Or... Rob a bank so you can afford a dev edition S4.
Swappa it is..
Lol
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My husband and I are getting a couple of new phones. He decided to go ahead and transfer his number to a dummy phone until it arrives, so he can work on getting rid of it. The phone was previously flashed to Page Plus and I'm curious how to properly revert to Sprint. I flashed it back to the original ROM on the phone when we got it - all stock, but bootloader/S-OFF did not go back to locked/on, is that normal? It looks as though the phone is up and ready for Sprint use again, but I'm curious if anyone could fill me in on the appropriate steps to take? Don't want to sell it to someone online and find out that it will not properly work.
I made an attempt to contact the flasher, who guaranteed a flash back to original service at any point in time when the phone may be resold, but the person has been of no help whatsoever aside from telling me to do a PRL update (which catches an error & I informed them of this problem) and to do something else, but gave me the wrong passcode.
Just doin' a little bumping...
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Bumpity bump... lol
Luna_Sky said:
Bumpity bump... lol
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You do realize that your thread is still at the top, as almost no one posts here anymore?
ElMadre said:
You do realize that your thread is still at the top, as almost no one posts here anymore?
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You do realize I could do without the attitude, right?
I was on mobile, on Tapatalk, did it really quick by simply going to my "subscribed" threads instead of looking through the entire section... In other words, that means: no I did not know there were no other posts/responses/new threads that may push it down.
But thanks!
Hi @Luna_Sky,
I'm not seeing any attitude from ElMadre.
Let's keep it civil please.
Thanks BD619
BD619 said:
Hi @Luna_Sky,
I'm not seeing any attitude from ElMadre.
Let's keep it civil please.
Thanks BD619
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Not a problem. Could you please delete this thread? Don't think I'm going to get a response any way.
Not sure if this will help you, but probably worth taking a look at. Flashing phones from one carrier to another isn't my area of expertise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195107
Also, based on at least one post I saw in a PP thread here, you may be able to RUU to put the device back stock with Sprint service. I'd give that a shot.