漏固件网V 转发了泄漏固件网V的微博:HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREWALL#WL 将会将会得到 HTC Sense 5 更新 | HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREBALL#WL will update to HTC Sense 5
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http://weibo.cn/leakroms
In English please? You know I don't speak Spanish
Here's what Google Translate gives. It may not be very helpful, but at least it's amusing.
Drain the firmware network V forwarding microblogging leak firmware network V: HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREWALL # WL will will get HTC Sense 5 | HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREBALL # WL will update to HTC Sense 5
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I think most of the important bits were already in English; it seems like a rumor that an official Jelly Bean update will be released.
I'm pretty much sticking with Cyanogenmod, but I'm curious. Will the release of official JB help make CM more stable for us as far as the camera focusing goes and other little quirks there may be?
somerandomname1 said:
I'm pretty much sticking with Cyanogenmod, but I'm curious. Will the release of official JB help make CM more stable for us as far as the camera focusing goes and other little quirks there may be?
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yepper
even get a new viper
And pizzuto, I mean no one uses it but ill update it too
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yepper
even get a new viper
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That's good news, I would really love to get the camera working better. Granted, no one can really decipher exactly what the OP says, so no idea when JB will actually come, but I'm hoping soon. The camera focus issue is the only thing that is bugging me about CM.
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That's good news, I would really love to get the camera working better. Granted, no one can really decipher exactly what the OP says, so no idea when JB will actually come, but I'm hoping soon. The camera focus issue is the only thing that is bugging me about CM.
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my camera focuses ok the camcorder is the one that bugs me. They'll work it out. someone always does
altayh said:
it seems like a rumor that an official Jelly Bean update will be released ... with Sense5
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a new rumor about an official HTC JB & Sense5 sounds cool, but ... I dun wanna loose the Sense4 lock-screen and the optically more pleasing Sense4 clock.
if Sense5 will come officially: any chance that Viper ... or maybe Pizzuto will add an option to Sense4+ (in addition to the by-then regular Sense5)
-> that'd be plain awsome if with a neat custom-rom we won't loose the visuals of Sense4 :fingers-crossed:
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Will the release of official JB help make CM more stable for us as far as the camera focusing goes and other little quirks there may be?
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A JB release would be beneficial in a number of ways to CM:
1) A different set of camera proprietary files that might resolve camcorder focus issues
2) Release of 3.4 kernel source (albeit, with a 6month delay after the OTA unless HTC bows to our pestering)
3) and with a 3.4 kernel, no more dependence on a proprietary file that resulted in a DMCA takedown and loss of nightlies
With that said, I have zero faith in the OP's rumor link. I think football's original posting about fireball getting JB (which has been taken down since he doesn't share this information any more) is more credible. I still have hope.
kimba99 said:
a new rumor about an official HTC JB & Sense5 sounds cool, but ... I dun wanna loose the Sense4 lock-screen and the optically more pleasing Sense4 clock.
if Sense5 will come officially: any chance that Viper ... or maybe Pizzuto will add an option to Sense4+ (in addition to the by-then regular Sense5)
-> that'd be plain awsome if with a neat custom-rom we won't loose the visuals of Sense4 :fingers-crossed:
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if theres a sense 4+ jellybean release i will do a viper update for it
m0narx has not started on sense5 stuff yet, so i cant comment on a sense5 viper for the inc4g as of now....
but at the least id make a modified stock sense5 rom for those that want basic mods added back in (id have to make one for my wife anyway, cuz she would freak out that stuff was missing on her phone)
nitsuj17 said:
if theres a sense 4+ jellybean release i will do a viper update for it
but at the least id make a modified stock sense5 rom for those that want basic mods added back in (id have to make one for my wife anyway, cuz she would freak out that stuff was missing on her phone)
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dun make your wife angry nitsuj :laugh: ... as for sense4+ on JB: do the OneX & OneS releases with JB 4.1.x qualify or does it need to be a fireball release w/ 4+? ... as long as there will be an official JB on fireball at all first of course
@nitsuj: on a sidenote ... any chance of a "color-inverted settings app"? so that the whole settings pages are with _white fonts on black background_ (like i was used to with my gf's HTC pyramid) -> black fonts on white background do suck more batt life :cyclops:
thanks a lot
mdmower said:
A JB release would be beneficial in a number of ways to CM:
1) A different set of camera proprietary files that might resolve camcorder focus issues
2) Release of 3.4 kernel source (albeit, with a 6month delay after the OTA unless HTC bows to our pestering)
3) and with a 3.4 kernel, no more dependence on a proprietary file that resulted in a DMCA takedown and loss of nightlies
With that said, I have zero faith in the OP's rumor link. I think football's original posting about fireball getting JB (which has been taken down since he doesn't share this information any more) is more credible. I still have hope.
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Can help to optimize the official kernel? Such as low voltage, CPU overclocking,Reduce the GPU memory space
optimize performance and so on, I see a lot of optimization of the official kernel EVO 4G LTE network, but our phone no This aspect of the resource Oh, and FM radio I transplant HTC J ROM, but there is no FM firball kernel related drive, FM can open, but not to listen to
We don't have any kernal devs. We barley have devs at all.
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zhaotiantian said:
Can help to optimize the official kernel? Such as low voltage, CPU overclocking,Reduce the GPU memory space
optimize performance and so on, I see a lot of optimization of the official kernel EVO 4G LTE network, but our phone no This aspect of the resource Oh, and FM radio I transplant HTC J ROM, but there is no FM firball kernel related drive, FM can open, but not to listen to
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I'm trying to learn about kernels here, and done some of those things, just no release cause all(including source) was on my stolen phone, I'll redo when I get the new one
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It seems that everyone know what this phase is about.So i just collect some more information on this weibo(twitter like in china).
zhaotiantian said:
漏固件网V 转发了泄漏固件网V的微博:HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREWALL#WL 将会将会得到 HTC Sense 5 更新 | HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREBALL#WL will update to HTC Sense 5
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http://weibo.cn/leakroms
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leakroms.com:
Yes it is Incredible 4G Lte By Verizon
HTC Incredible 4G LTE FIREBALL#WL will update to HTC Sense 5
update is jelly bean and HTC Sense 5
you guys can check my history to make sure it's real or not.(He has confidence on it)
there is no exact time for the ota.
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Here is somthing interesting in this weibo.
he says
One XL is the first to sense5 (same cpu like inc4g)
dna
one x
butterfly
inc4G
Related
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-c...on-leaks-out?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Looks extremely underwhelming...
Better than I expected.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Still looks horrible. =[
I think it looks terrible...nothing like ICS.
I'm Batman..
How is it "extremely underwhelming" ? Did you really expect a Sense-free release?! What were you expecting to get?
We are getting a major API revision and the long awaited HW acceleration.
This is far from underwhelming.
Its time for HTC to make sense OPTIONAL. Half of us switch to AOSP roms anyways. Looks like junk compared to stock ICS though.
Meh, boring, much rather prefer vanilla. On the plus side I guess it will help EVO 3D development.
It doesn't look much different from ginger bread with sense.
Guess whats getting ported today
I don't see the issue. It's updated, It's how HTC makes it, if It's not pretty, we theme it. If you don't like sense, then why comment? Obviously you're going to run cm9 or some other form of aosp.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
JoelZ9614 said:
Guess whats getting ported today
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youre the best!
for everyone complaining notice that its only sense 3.5, not 4.0 like they said would be part of their ics releases. probably because this is only a TEST BUILD
JoelZ9614 said:
Guess whats getting ported today
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You're the man JoelZ. I'll be lurking...
kellybrf said:
youre the best!
for everyone complaining notice that its only sense 3.5, not 4.0 like they said would be part of their ics releases. probably because this is only a TEST BUILD
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You're prolly right. It definitely looks unfinished
I'm Batman..
JoelZ9614 said:
Guess whats getting ported today
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I think I may have just creamed a bit. JoelZ, you are the maaaannnn!!!
I am going to take a stab on the port as well. The download is painfully slow however
"Sense based ICS ROM." It wont be the real deal until HTC releases it themselves in my opinion. Also, just leave it alone Joelz.
knowledge561 said:
"Sense based ICS ROM." It wont be the real deal until HTC releases it themselves in my opinion. Also, just leave it alone Joelz.
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It is not too hard to build an ASOP if we have a working rom
So how did they get this? j/w b/c this is the first pure leak ive seen for us since Sinper's site was shut down long long ago. EDIT: I guess Capy has a source inside HTC to an extent!! Wish we could get an EVO3D leaker to come out lol.
Also to the Sense 3.5 on it is a little confusing b/c it looks nothing like either of the other sense 3.5 phone builds out, the high power one nor the low end device one.
I agree it likely/HOPEFULLY is saying sense3.5 on it b/c they are not fully done with it yet.
Keep the Thread Clean Guy's or you will force me to lock it
So with the port I'm gonna say that 4g won't work?
A very interesting ROM has been posted in the Sensation forum found for HERE by XDA's own Robocik and Capychimp of the RCmix Team. While I know this isn't specific to the Rezound, this certainly pertains to the newer crop of HTC phones scheduled to receive an update to Ice Cream Sandwich.
For anyone who doesn't know about the RcTeam, they provide the some of the most stable ports/bases of the latest leaked RUUs. This ROM happens to be based off of a leaked RUU for the HTC Sensation (a sibling of the Rezound) Android version 4.0.1 (will be updated to 4.0.3 upon official release I suppose) and will provide us with an idea of some the upcoming revisions to HTC Sense in preparation of the highly anicipated release of ICS.
Yes, there may not be much to read but sifting through the thread can provide us with some insight of what we'll get when HTC releases ICS for the newest HTC devices.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-rom-htc-sensation-leaks-out
http://android.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htc-preparing-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-wi-r137
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=lea...-5-rom-shows-htc-sense-for-ice-cream-sandwich
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phon...ch-on-the-galaxy-nexus-video-and-gallery/7007
Exciting! So close, I can taste the ice cream!
Its wack IMO.
blestsol said:
Its wack IMO.
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LOL. Have you personally used it?
They have to start somewhere obviously. Just as with any development stability first and visual stuff later. Just sayin...
Thanks for sharing. I had no idea.
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blestsol said:
Its wack IMO.
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I won't be using the stock launcher so that really wont bother me.
Marcismo55 said:
LOL. Have you personally used it?
They have to start somewhere obviously. Just as with any development stability first and visual stuff later. Just sayin...
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No but based off what people are saying and the article its nothing new or special and I hate the new bar at the bottom.
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that rosie is god awful. don't touch the damn arc lol that's what i like best about sense, damnit!
blestsol said:
No but based off what people are saying and the article its nothing new or special and I hate the new bar at the bottom.
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I really could care less about the looks. I just want ICS for the performance increases.
jayochs said:
don't touch the damn arc lol that's what i like best about sense, damnit!
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totally agree! I like the added functionality, it was much overdue. But the shape really says "Sense" to me after using it for so long, and it's a shame they'd change it.
zetsumeikuro said:
I really could care less about the looks. I just want ICS for the performance increases.
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That's cool, I just wanted to see htc do something fresh and new and add performance improvements.
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I'm tired of the "arc". I like being able to choose a dock style, a la ADW Launcher!
I understand why HTC is implementing sense from a business perspective - it's the only way for manufacturers to differentiate their products. This is why I left the Rezound for the Nexus. HTC will NEVER give users vanilla android. Sense = bloat. Bloat = lag.
And before anyone jumps down my throat - there's a major reason everyone wants perm-root on the Rezound so badly - to stop using Sense! Why else would the temp-root apps that allow you to "de-sense" over in the development forum be so popular?
crazeco said:
I understand why HTC is implementing sense from a business perspective - it's the only way for manufacturers to differentiate their products. This is why I left the Rezound for the Nexus. HTC will NEVER give users vanilla android. Sense = bloat. Bloat = lag.
And before anyone jumps down my throat - there's a major reason everyone wants perm-root on the Rezound so badly - to stop using Sense! Why else would the temp-root apps that allow you to "de-sense" over in the development forum be so popular?
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I think you're very misled if you think most people want root to disable sense.
There are people that would like to remove Sense tied apps. I like the look and feel, but I don't need 3 twitter apps, lol. They really should consider the "bloat" apps optional. I am sure there are people who prefer Sense Social networking over having different apps, then there are people who prefer using the branded app from the network itself. If they are going to lock us down, we should at least have the ability to pick and choose.
Just sayin...
I'm not going to lie, I'm not too crazy about that dock either but some of you are missing the bigger picture. HTC already has ported Sense over to the ICS framework. This means we could be fairly close to receiving our update. That being said, not only will we benefit from the features of ICS but maybe there will be some loopholes for root. After all, it is a new base for HTC as well.
I find it funny the first mentioned is how "ugly" the dock is instead of the overall features.
In regard to Sense, I enjoy it because after flashing AOSP roms, sometimes I just want things to just work. No using 3rd party apps or anything like that, all stock but with minor tweaks (when rooted of course).
I like then new look, I don't care about the launcher either way as I never use the stock one to begin with.
What I'm really hoping for is for sense to be SLIMMED DOWN. A lot. Sense is just way too bloated compared to Touchwiz or whatever Motorola is calling their new skin.
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I think you're very misled if you think most people want root to disable sense.
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Really? Because the most viewed and replied to thread in the Rezound forums deals with disabling the framework of Sense and additional bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367591
My point is, HTC is going to implement the exact same thing in ICS, which is why so many people find the Nexus attractive. It would be an extremely difficult choice for me b/w the Nexus and Rezound if HTC announced it would implement a vanilla android platform for ICS that's bloat free.
crazeco said:
I understand why HTC is implementing sense from a business perspective - it's the only way for manufacturers to differentiate their products. This is why I left the Rezound for the Nexus. HTC will NEVER give users vanilla android. Sense = bloat. Bloat = lag.
And before anyone jumps down my throat - there's a major reason everyone wants perm-root on the Rezound so badly - to stop using Sense! Why else would the temp-root apps that allow you to "de-sense" over in the development forum be so popular?
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If sense equals lag, then why does the nexus lag? I like sense and so do a lot of people that use HTC phones.
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Really? Because the most viewed and replied to thread in the Rezound forums deals with disabling the framework of Sense and additional bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367591
My point is, HTC is going to implement the exact same thing in ICS, which is why so many people find the Nexus attractive. It would be an extremely difficult choice for me b/w the Nexus and Rezound if HTC announced it would implement a vanilla android platform for ICS that's bloat free.
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So what about when S-off comes? The Nexus won't be as attractive. The ability to run Vanilla ICS or bloat-free sense will exist. At least the option to switch between the two will be there and we won't be left with just different versions of "Vanilla" ICS which will get old.
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yay. my dream of all those threads being closed came true. lmao. I lost count of how many threads there were. But answer... It is very unlikely we'll get it through normal terms on our phones. I don't even know what the difference is to the new jelly bean anyway compared to 4.0. New phones will always get the new OS before a year old phone gets it. Simple as that. Most companies don't support their products after 6 months anyway. *which is really sad*
Anyway, Sure I hope we get the best since I still believe our phone is the best on the market. Having LTE phone isn't a buying factor. there won't be a LTE network for sprint for another year or so. But anyway, GO JELLY BEANS. btw for everyone. You're all my new favorite friends. You rock.
Jelly Bean will have Google Now. I want this.
http://youtu.be/pPqliPzHYyc
I have the evo v, which thankfully they put ICS on..perhaps WE will get jellybean at some point or another. :good:
Jelly Bean?
if not officially Jelly Bean to have from those who strive and make us new beautiful life
PDK
Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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I think it will help alot of would be app developers develop apps
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Hi,
i think YES...maybe NO...
HTC DesireHD,HTC DesireS, ETC.. platform getting ICS soon...but HTC Flyer didn't getting it...
so i hope in the future i have JB with HTC Sense...
coolexe said:
Hi,
i think YES...maybe NO...
HTC DesireHD,HTC DesireS, ETC.. platform getting ICS soon...but HTC Flyer didn't getting it...
so i hope in the future i have JB with HTC Sense...
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Lol thanks for that insightful post
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I'm really just hoping that Sprint EVO 3D owners get an official ICS OTA and that HTC gets around to releasing the source soon. I don't expect HTC to bring Jelly Bean to the EVO 3D, but if we get the new kernel source, we can just do it ourselves.
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Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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I think so, and I really hope so. The two factors that slow down updates for devices are custom tweaks (Sense, TouchWiz, etc.) and drivers (like for our 3D camera and autostereoscopic screen). If Google's moves can help speed up the process and minimize the work that needs to go into updates, such as 4.1 being on the same kernel (or at least one with very minor changes), hopefully that will encourage and enable manufacturers to bring the upgrades to more devices sooner. If the Android ecosystem can ever reach a point where new OS versions only take a couple of months at most to reach supported devices, it would be a dream come true.
JB Doesn't Support Flash
Don't get too excited about JB just yet as it Flash won't work on it (see link below).
http://mashable.com/2012/06/29/flash-in-android-4-1/
Maybe so devs can add the notifications update to ICS? I'd be happy with just that.
kcsween said:
Don't get too excited about JB just yet as it Flash won't work on it (see link below).
http://mashable.com/2012/06/29/flash-in-android-4-1/
Maybe so devs can add the notifications update to ICS? I'd be happy with just that.
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Eh, for me at least, I'm not too concerned about Flash. It's a dying breed as it is, with HTML 5 replacing it at a decent rate. I'd rather have the OS enhancements of Jelly Bean than Flash. But, that's just me, and I get the impression that you use Flash sites more often than I do.
I would expect some devs to port components of Jelly Bean to ICS, such as the notifications. It wouldn't have the Buttery goodness of JB, though.
Ahhh....
ButtaKnife said:
Eh, for me at least, I'm not too concerned about Flash. It's a dying breed as it is, with HTML 5 replacing it at a decent rate. I'd rather have the OS enhancements of Jelly Bean than Flash. But, that's just me, and I get the impression that you use Flash sites more often than I do.
I would expect some devs to port components of Jelly Bean to ICS, such as the notifications. It wouldn't have the Buttery goodness of JB, though.
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Ok, so I do see your point and you are correct, I am on my browser all the time and love the flash component. It was originally a major factor for me choosing Droid over iOS in the first place but certainly not a deal breaker by any means. I do know that HTML5 is the next big thing though. I'll take my buttery goodness in the form of ICS w/ JB notifications update please!...lol.
kcsween said:
Ok, so I do see your point and you are correct, I am on my browser all the time and love the flash component. It was originally a major factor for me choosing Droid over iOS in the first place but certainly not a deal breaker by any means. I do know that HTML5 is the next big thing though. I'll take my buttery goodness in the form of ICS w/ JB notifications update please!...lol.
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^^^ (for watching mobile porn) LOL
Yes it would be nice to get OS updates within a month rather than a year. Thankfully we have devs to tide us over until that becomes a possibility. LOL on the mobile porn insight
Papa Smurf151 said:
Lol thanks for that insightful post
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always ur welcome..lol:laugh:
raptoro07 said:
^^^ (for watching mobile porn) LOL
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Buh-Zing!
JB
Hey guys.
I consider being able to handle/see flash a requisite of seeing the real web but at the same time, I dislike it. Can't wait till it is dead.
I'm guessing we won't see any "official" JB so not to nag but what is a typical time course [predicted?] for when we may see unofficial JB roms for CDMA Evo 3D, if ever? I'm just wondering order of magnitude type thing: 1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 2 year...?
Couldn't we just use dolphin or ics browser+ for flash sites? I think chrome is the only browser that is not supporting flash... (not positive though)
Hello guys,i live in Greece Europe..still waiting for my Dna.....it will arrive in thursday here...as a veteran of HTC Devices,i used viper/venom rom in all of them.....do you know if there is any development plans or progress about a viper rom for our phone..with that perfect tweaks...etc?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...UKB DNA 1.2.1 l apm l aroma l sense l desense
crpalmer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...UKB DNA 1.2.1 l apm l aroma l sense l desense
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is this rom something similar to viper?as the developer is lead developer of viper lte roms? rom has tweaks?or something like viper hub?waiting for a viper/venom official release not a similar rom...i'm gonna try it though when i get my hands on dna
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is this rom something similar to viper?as the developer is lead developer of viper lte roms? rom has tweaks?or something like viper hub?waiting for a viper/venom official release not a similar rom...i'm gonna try it though when i get my hands on dna
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Developers have stated they are alreadyy working on viper DNA
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Developers have stated they are alreadyy working on viper DNA
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nice where do you get those infos?is there a thread that there is a discussion so we all can see the progress and when the rom will be available
Djmk4 said:
is this rom something similar to viper?as the developer is lead developer of viper lte roms? rom has tweaks?or something like viper hub?waiting for a viper/venom official release not a similar rom...i'm gonna try it though when i get my hands on dna
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the viper roms are rarely "identical" to one another, simply because they use different base roms for the respective phones...although the phones that use "ports" rather than the native roms are generally closer (the wvga phones for example)
however the tweak packages are very close to each other (some differences per phone largely based on some hardware features that one htc phone has that another may not) and each phone has its own "venom hub" with themes/mods/icon packs made for that phone or ones with similar resolutions
initially our phone may have less status bar/rosie/icon themes available when we eventually (i have no eta as we havent actually started work yet) do release, since there has never been a 1080p htc phone before....most existing themes/customizations from ics do work on jellybean...but they are meant for qHD, wvga, or HD (we are Full HD res) res phones
there wont be a "viper dna info thread" or anything like that...usually i just post stuff in whatever existing rom thread i have with updates/info (in this case UKB) just cuz its already a thread i have at the time
currently the plan is for Virus and myself to work directly on viperDNA and hopefully get some dna themers involved as well, and potentially others who can help in various ways (beta testing, etc)
nitsuj17 said:
the viper roms are rarely "identical" to one another, simply because they use different base roms for the respective phones...although the phones that use "ports" rather than the native roms are generally closer (the wvga phones for example)
however the tweak packages are very close to each other (some differences per phone largely based on some hardware features that one htc phone has that another may not) and each phone has its own "venom hub" with themes/mods/icon packs made for that phone or ones with similar resolutions
initially our phone may have less status bar/rosie/icon themes available when we eventually (i have no eta as we havent actually started work yet) do release, since there has never been a 1080p htc phone before....most existing themes/customizations from ics do work on jellybean...but they are meant for qHD, wvga, or HD (we are Full HD res) res phones
there wont be a "viper dna info thread" or anything like that...usually i just post stuff in whatever existing rom thread i have with updates/info (in this case UKB) just cuz its already a thread i have at the time
currently the plan is for Virus and myself to work directly on viperDNA and hopefully get some dna themers involved as well, and potentially others who can help in various ways (beta testing, etc)
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many many thanks for infos..you can count me as a beta tester...as i spend a lot of hours in front of phone.....i am a newbie on development and theming..but want to start theming....i have contact jerrytan93 who is a great themer at htc sensation...i have a little knowledge...with some help maybe i can start theming!!!the most difficult think will be the resize of things for 1080p resolution
Nitsuj, what features would you put in Viper Rom that you don't have in UKB?
orangechoochoo said:
Nitsuj, what features would you put in Viper Rom that you don't have in UKB?
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If you look at any of the existing viper rom threads (sensation, inc 4g, one xl, etc) you Lo get a good idea of what is typically included
potential themers for viper dna
Hey Nitsuj I think you and jbeitel should talk about potential viper DNA theming....jbeitel is a beast...also he is a good guy. Over the last year I have learned a lot from him.
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Hey Nitsuj I think you and jbeitel should talk about potential viper DNA theming....jbeitel is a beast...also he is a good guy. Over the last year I have learned a lot from him.
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Yeah I will make the venom theming stuff available to themers as soon as the base rom and theme apks are set up
Good Morning to you all!
Sorry if this has already been posted but I couldn't find much of anything on this topic. Does a "Google Edition" Rom exist for the EVO 4G LTE? I know we have the AOSP and AOKP roms but this is something I've wanted to ask for a while. I love the pure Google experience and I just have to wait about a year until i can upgrade to a new phone like a Nexus.
Thank you again for taking the the time to read this and for all the awesome work all you Developers put in for making this awesome phone even better.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
Captain_Throwback said:
No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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I'm with you on that one. Not sure why anyone with knowledge of rooting (who doesn't mind a voided warranty) would want to buy a GE phone.
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I don't have any problem with any AOSP Rom other than signal and connectivity issues. But its really just curiosity for me and I'm a big fan of Google so the idea of having a Google Editon EVO sounds cool to me.
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Well it won't happen.
And aosp is just as much Google as a GE would be.
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Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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scottspa74 said:
Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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ZamoraDC said:
What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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You could always try Evervolv. That's probably the closest to AOSP, that is, with the least customization.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
CNexus said:
Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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How difficult is this to do?
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ZamoraDC said:
How difficult is this to do?
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I can't say.
For the DNA it was extremely simple (but zarboz is a boss so he would've gotten it anyway) since the two devices are almost identical (One and DNA).
But the fact that you guys have a 3.4.x official HTC kernel should help.
hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary.
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You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
If you think about it, this site probably wouldn't even exist if OEMs made good software. They often do have access to proprietary drivers and documentation, but most of that is slowly getting open sourced anyway.
That type of reasoning is a fallacy because more often then not OEMs are just too plain cheap to do things properly. They just need to hit their deadlines. So your only real options are to either buy a nexus device, or invest a little time in helping fix any issues that you may find.
Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
CNexus said:
Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Have you ever used one of the IRC builds of cm10 or cm10.1? They're more stable and are more feature rich than the stock ROM that shipped with this device or any of the updates that they were gracious enough to let sense users download over the air. The 3.0 kernel was seriously stable, but the 3.4 kernel is (nearly as) stable _and_ leaves more RAM for your silly animation effects and whatever. It's based on the reference kernel for the chip set, if I'm not making an arse of myself. So pick a build. I know 1/16 was an awesome cm10, and like I said in another topic I had 191 hours uptime on the 7/23 cm10.1 before I rebooted to rule out the ROM when I was having data issues(it was the network) </rant>
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xHausx said:
You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
xHausx said:
Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Ha! That was my first smartphone! I first signed up on xda (under a different name) when that phone launched (I got it as the att tilt) so that I could run manila and then android on it! That display driver issue was so frustrating. Sorry for ot, but I haven't thought about that in ages.
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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It's not accurate to say the binaries are made for other devices when the devices are all basically the same. The MSM8960, for example, has it's own binaries, but the same chip is used in a range of devices from the Evo LTE, Blackberry Z10, One X (LTE), One XL, Windows Phone 8X, LG Mach, Moto Droid Razr M, Droid Razr, Razr Max, Atrix HD, Incredible HD, Xperia GX TL SX & V, Galaxy S III... the list goes on
The binaries all of those devices use were developed for the Qualcomm devkit I've linked below.
When you're working with a sense ROM versus an AOSP ROM there are many differences in not only appearance but the framework as well, but once you start getting down to the kernel level the hardware is all basically the same. Where we have the advantage over OEMs is that most companies know it's counterproductive and a waste of money to go after enthusiasts who borrow their binaries from one device to use on something else. If an OEM did that they would be sued in a heartbeat.
https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobile-development/development-devices/snapdragon-s4-msm8960-mdps
edit: probably actually this instead, but same difference: http://shop.intrinsyc.com/products/dragonboard-members-only
To digress back to the OP's original question though, the google edition One is basically just the one with AOSP on it. If you can find a pure AOSP ROM it'll be the exact same thing.
Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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ZamoraDC said:
Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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Why don't you just build AOSP? You can use the CM kernel and pull the relevant vendor files from an existing AOSP ROM (or find an up-to-date github with them).
That way you don't have to worry about having the extra customizations, but you'll still have a kernel built from Qualcomm source along with the ROM.
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I have tried a lot of ROMs and I find these devs do a much better job than stock ROMs yes you have some bugs in some but the always work them out cudos to the devs I'm just glad they still support my device and having gabe up on it