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yay. my dream of all those threads being closed came true. lmao. I lost count of how many threads there were. But answer... It is very unlikely we'll get it through normal terms on our phones. I don't even know what the difference is to the new jelly bean anyway compared to 4.0. New phones will always get the new OS before a year old phone gets it. Simple as that. Most companies don't support their products after 6 months anyway. *which is really sad*
Anyway, Sure I hope we get the best since I still believe our phone is the best on the market. Having LTE phone isn't a buying factor. there won't be a LTE network for sprint for another year or so. But anyway, GO JELLY BEANS. btw for everyone. You're all my new favorite friends. You rock.
Jelly Bean will have Google Now. I want this.
http://youtu.be/pPqliPzHYyc
I have the evo v, which thankfully they put ICS on..perhaps WE will get jellybean at some point or another. :good:
Jelly Bean?
if not officially Jelly Bean to have from those who strive and make us new beautiful life
PDK
Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
deadhead_fred said:
Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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I think it will help alot of would be app developers develop apps
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Hi,
i think YES...maybe NO...
HTC DesireHD,HTC DesireS, ETC.. platform getting ICS soon...but HTC Flyer didn't getting it...
so i hope in the future i have JB with HTC Sense...
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Hi,
i think YES...maybe NO...
HTC DesireHD,HTC DesireS, ETC.. platform getting ICS soon...but HTC Flyer didn't getting it...
so i hope in the future i have JB with HTC Sense...
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Lol thanks for that insightful post
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I'm really just hoping that Sprint EVO 3D owners get an official ICS OTA and that HTC gets around to releasing the source soon. I don't expect HTC to bring Jelly Bean to the EVO 3D, but if we get the new kernel source, we can just do it ourselves.
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I think so, and I really hope so. The two factors that slow down updates for devices are custom tweaks (Sense, TouchWiz, etc.) and drivers (like for our 3D camera and autostereoscopic screen). If Google's moves can help speed up the process and minimize the work that needs to go into updates, such as 4.1 being on the same kernel (or at least one with very minor changes), hopefully that will encourage and enable manufacturers to bring the upgrades to more devices sooner. If the Android ecosystem can ever reach a point where new OS versions only take a couple of months at most to reach supported devices, it would be a dream come true.
JB Doesn't Support Flash
Don't get too excited about JB just yet as it Flash won't work on it (see link below).
http://mashable.com/2012/06/29/flash-in-android-4-1/
Maybe so devs can add the notifications update to ICS? I'd be happy with just that.
kcsween said:
Don't get too excited about JB just yet as it Flash won't work on it (see link below).
http://mashable.com/2012/06/29/flash-in-android-4-1/
Maybe so devs can add the notifications update to ICS? I'd be happy with just that.
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Eh, for me at least, I'm not too concerned about Flash. It's a dying breed as it is, with HTML 5 replacing it at a decent rate. I'd rather have the OS enhancements of Jelly Bean than Flash. But, that's just me, and I get the impression that you use Flash sites more often than I do.
I would expect some devs to port components of Jelly Bean to ICS, such as the notifications. It wouldn't have the Buttery goodness of JB, though.
Ahhh....
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Eh, for me at least, I'm not too concerned about Flash. It's a dying breed as it is, with HTML 5 replacing it at a decent rate. I'd rather have the OS enhancements of Jelly Bean than Flash. But, that's just me, and I get the impression that you use Flash sites more often than I do.
I would expect some devs to port components of Jelly Bean to ICS, such as the notifications. It wouldn't have the Buttery goodness of JB, though.
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Ok, so I do see your point and you are correct, I am on my browser all the time and love the flash component. It was originally a major factor for me choosing Droid over iOS in the first place but certainly not a deal breaker by any means. I do know that HTML5 is the next big thing though. I'll take my buttery goodness in the form of ICS w/ JB notifications update please!...lol.
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Ok, so I do see your point and you are correct, I am on my browser all the time and love the flash component. It was originally a major factor for me choosing Droid over iOS in the first place but certainly not a deal breaker by any means. I do know that HTML5 is the next big thing though. I'll take my buttery goodness in the form of ICS w/ JB notifications update please!...lol.
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^^^ (for watching mobile porn) LOL
Yes it would be nice to get OS updates within a month rather than a year. Thankfully we have devs to tide us over until that becomes a possibility. LOL on the mobile porn insight
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Lol thanks for that insightful post
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always ur welcome..lol:laugh:
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^^^ (for watching mobile porn) LOL
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Buh-Zing!
JB
Hey guys.
I consider being able to handle/see flash a requisite of seeing the real web but at the same time, I dislike it. Can't wait till it is dead.
I'm guessing we won't see any "official" JB so not to nag but what is a typical time course [predicted?] for when we may see unofficial JB roms for CDMA Evo 3D, if ever? I'm just wondering order of magnitude type thing: 1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 2 year...?
Couldn't we just use dolphin or ics browser+ for flash sites? I think chrome is the only browser that is not supporting flash... (not positive though)
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I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
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I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
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Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
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Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
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Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
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Agree. There's already a thousand threads about what's new with ICS (and OPs that didn't do their own research).
So here's my addition:
ICS will not get you laid.
ICS will not cool you off on a hot day.
I'm waiting ICS beacause it will bring native support to VPN connections with Group Authentication, that now is impossible to use with Honeycomb..
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Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
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Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
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ICS Will not convince your mother in law that S-Voice is NOT siri on android
ICS is never;
- gonna give you up
- gonna let you down
- gonna turn around and hurt you
ICS will never say "die"
ICS will never get you brownie points
I love this thread.
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Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
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don't get me wrong. I brought a galaxy tab 10.1 on the day it was released in nyc, and am presently a happy owner of a tab 8.9
Just HC had a lot of bugs and fcs in its initial release, though the most current Touchwiz based on HC 3.2 is definately more stable. But of course, by now, I've blissfully moved on to aokp ICS custom rom, and naturally feel no urge to return to HC. I m sure when you upgrade to ICS after sammy releases the official version this month, you'll not want to return either.
ICS can never match Klondike Bars
ICS Will never get rid of chart stains in your undies
Ditto
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Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
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Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
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Also? Did you read the thread?
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
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Only cuz its a way better OS.. Best Google's work so far and it's really awesome.. Now if you want to stay with hc no1 is forcing you to do so..
It's just a dumb question IMHO.. If you have a 4 cylinders engine Chevy and out of nowhere Chevy calls you and tells to you that they want to replace your old engine for a brand new 8 cylinders engine FOR FREE, will you stay with the old 4 cylinders (that works ok but some times need oil) or will you be HAPPY and go get your new engine??
Again it's up to you to stay with your old engine or go get the new 1.. But consider yourself a dork If you don't change because you are okay with the old.
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ICS will not be televised.
Hi. I heard that android going to release version 5.0 jellybean. Does anyone know when is the release date?
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Hi. I heard that android going to release version 5.0 jellybean. Does anyone know when is the release date?
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Since Feb Google execs have been saying most likely this fall or late Q4. I'm sure this Fall though and even this summer their might be leaked 4.1 roms spotted on devices. Jellybean will be 4.1 not 5.0 as the Nexus 7 got it. It definitely will be more of a software/driver update and performance tweaks with few new features but probably not a whole new UI that 4.0 brought us. It makes sense considering that's how it was since back on 2.1/2.2/2.3 versions of Android And not much has been leaked or given in regards as to what features it will bring. Only thing I can think of is the integration of Google chrome as the default browser in 4.1 that's it lol
Sorry for my mistake, I thought it was android 5.0. Can't wait for the leaks. Thanks for the reply phantomg93
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Sorry for my mistake, I thought it was android 5.0. Can't wait for the leaks. Thanks for the reply phantomg93
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No problem androidboy123 and I could be wrong about it not being 5.0. Everyone on the websites changed it from 5.0 to 4.1 because of the Nexus 7. I guess we will have to wait and see what # version Jellybean will be when it starts rolling out on phones
Jelly beam
Probably we will not recive it with OTA, maybie will get a Rom without sense
Jellybean
I would say that how the EVO 3D got screwed over, we probably won't see Jellybean on our phones. It has been suggested that manufacturers should charge for major ROM updates and I would be willing to do so (provided the cost was reasonable). Hell, I would have paid for ICS to get it 6 months sooner.
Naturally, Apple would say how their updates are free and flaunt that in front of everyone. :\
*Sigh*
well... the 3vo might get 4.1 ... but chances are by the time jelly bean hits the market we still wont have the 4.0.3 from sprint... but if they follow their normal pattern, chances of seeing it are good more than likely as a End Of Life update sometime next year, but none the less, chances are probably a lot higher that the wonderfull devs that are still with us will port it fairly soon after they get a chance to play with it a little, or that vm will probably update there 3vo sooner, and we may end up with another questionable leak, but I can say with almost abosolute certinty that well get it in due time, untill then we will have the marithon wait that we did for ics. :good:
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well... the 3vo might get 4.1 ... but chances are by the time jelly bean hits the market we still wont have the 4.0.3 from sprint... but if they follow their normal pattern, chances of seeing it are good more than likely as a End Of Life update sometime next year, but none the less, chances are probably a lot higher that the wonderfull devs that are still with us will port it fairly soon after they get a chance to play with it a little, or that vm will probably update there 3vo sooner, and we may end up with another questionable leak, but I can say with almost abosolute certinty that well get it in due time, untill then we will have the marithon wait that we did for ics. :good:
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3VO EOL was like a month ago bro. Sprint hates this phone.
All jelly bean discussion goes here for now on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739962
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Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
sekigah84 said:
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
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Totally agree!
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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We had gingerbread ROMs based off the SDK on the Incredible..
What about the PDK, thought I saw something about that being released on the I/O?
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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It does indeed help with rom development. Just not as easy.
I think it might help get it quicker too because the European version probably will get jelly bean quicker...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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The Galaxy Nexus does not have to rely on Samsung to push out updates though, and it is supposed to get updates first.
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
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It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
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There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this. If it was intended to be the most exciting update yet, it would've had a version number to reflect that. Just saying.
Having said that... I'm pretty excited too, but it'll likely take Sammy a little while to push an official update if you're like me and don't root right away.
I want to see Project Butter and the new notifications in action! :laugh:
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I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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Kernels for a completely different SoC..?
Markdental said:
It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
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I doubt Samsung has had the Jellybean PDK for four months already. Jellybean probably hasn't been finalized for that long.
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My understanding was that google tried the early release this time around by giving it to the manufacturers two weeks before I/O. It is for the future releases that it was going to be 3-4 months.
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demarcmj said:
There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this.
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Depends. The VSync governor and CPU prespread is rather a quantum leap. Yes, it's not massively exceeding the introduction of the 2.2 Dalvik JIT but it's going to push Android along and, likely, past the Cupertino Competition.
Not to mention "Butter" was the coolest code name, yet. Chet (who's also doing the "For Butter or for Worse" session tomorrow, gave a good impromptu hallway intro to some of us, and it's exciting. VERY exciting.
I flashed the toro version of the Jelly Bean SDK port to my Nexus and holy hell its so smooth. Much smoother than my GSIII. I can't begin to think how smooth this device will be especially since the screen is much more sensitive and responsive than my Nexus. 4.1 is what 4.0 should have been. The Google Now feature provided INSTANT response with no lag. Its almost like talking to a person. Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Considering Samsung subscribes to the "want to upgrade your OS, upgrade the phone" philosophy, I am not sure we'll see JB on the S3 any time soon. I'd presume we'll see an AOSP Rom soon-ish, though, given the number of S3 owners at Google I/O that just stared and lusted...
I haven't seen ICS released for the bolt yet so why are we closing the threads saying it's released? As far as I can tell, it's still just vaporware officially.
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Huh?
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draiken78 said:
I haven't seen ICS released for the bolt yet so why are we closing the threads saying it's released? As far as I can tell, it's still just vaporware officially.
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If you're referring to the "HTC thunderbolt ICS update testing in final stages..." thread, i have to believe that it was closed due to a number of "off topic posts" and because the thread itself was based on hearsay instead of verifiable evidence...
If you are curious about the locking of newt's one xxx rom thread (a shame, newt and his rom are awesome), it's because the rom contains cd suite tools... See link below for more on that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758154
Fair enough.
I do wonder if the bolt will ever see the update officially though. It makes me sad that it didn't get gingerbread until it had been out a full year, even though the Thunderbolt was released like 6 months after Gingerbread. It's like a repeat of history here with ICS.
Personally, I don't see how HTC and Verizon can provide support like this. For me, it's not a matter of whether ics is better than gingerbread or not (well I guess it kind of is). The way I see it though is if you buy a pc or laptop, I don't think people would except not getting the latest updates for at least the 2 years we are under contract for like with phones.
All that being said, my phone still works pretty good, but HTC and Verizon will not be involved with my next phone in March.
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Fair enough.
I do wonder if the bolt will ever see the update officially though.
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it's doubtful. i believe HTC when they say that VZW has the finished update. IMO, the thunderbolt was pushed out prematurely to be the first on the market with 4G LTE. the unique RIL of the bolt has proven to be a mess, and has likely complicated the update process. VZW is the end party responsible for the continuing availability of their services to users and devices that subscribe to them. Serious concerns VZW may have about diminished functionality or overall stability on thunderbolts as a result of pushing the ICS update, especially for stock users (that wouldn't be able to modify or revert a bad ICS update pushed to their devices) may have stopped the thunderbolt's ICS update at VZW's gates altogether.
Personally, I don't see how HTC and Verizon can provide support like this. HTC and Verizon will not be involved with my next phone in March.
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yes. the best thing to do is to take your money elsewhere if you're dissatisfied. the only vote that matters to VZW is that made by the consumer dollar.
The ICS discussion thread you are referring to was closed due to a lot of off-topic posts. The thread had been cleaned in the past, but it seems like it didn't help.
That's why the thread got closed.
Cheers,
YZ.
The other thread was closed by a clueless mod, who claimed that ICS had been released! Go figure. The thread was also being actively trolled, but that wasn't given as a reason for closing it.
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The other thread was closed by a clueless mod, who claimed that ICS had been released! Go figure. The thread was also being actively trolled, but that wasn't given as a reason for closing it.
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It has been released. There are like 4 versions.
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mike.s said:
The other thread was closed by a clueless mod, who claimed that ICS had been released! Go figure. The thread was also being actively trolled, but that wasn't given as a reason for closing it.
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Yes, my apologies. People make mistakes.
Lets continue with our lives, and stop spamming the boards with this little issue.
Cheers,
YZ.
Even though HTC might finish it but there's no incentive for Verizon to authorize it since they rather lock you in with another 2-year contract then provide ICS and let you be contract free.
They will not be locking me in to any kind of new contract.
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I'm starting to think they are having the same problems the devs were with ics and the ril along with the camera. I'm guessing Jester and liquid figured some of them out first.
I really have no idea
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I'm starting to think they are having the same problems the devs were with ics and the ril along with the camera. I'm guessing Jester and liquid figured some of them out first.
I really have no idea
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I keep seeing people mention, that maybe they(HTC) are having issues with the camera or the Ril.
To be honest, the Ril could still be causing them grief, but not the camera.
I understand that the AOSP hacked-together roms have broken camera functionality and poor image quality.
However, that does not eliminate the fact that the camera works just fine in the Sense based ICS leak for our device.
So I find it hard to believe and even impossible that the camera would be what's holding things up.
It works in the Sense 3.6 leaked rom, as well as the custom rom I made from it.
Maybe folks don't even realize that there actually is functional ICS for our devices.
Does it have the best battery life going? Probably not!
Does my rom give ME better battery life then the AOSP ICS rom that everyone is using? It absolutely does!
I finally loaded the AOSP rom for the first time the other day and along with a broken camera, slow data, drops, overheating, 3 hours of battery life, and reboots, I came to the conclusion that the sense based roms are actually much better right now, in my honest opinion.
I know many say it has lag, it's bloated, it's slow, blah blah blah....Well everything works and a few milliseconds in response time isn't enough for me to choose semi-functional over fully functional.
Just my 2 cents....as I don't understand what everyone is still waiting for.
The only thing I could care about at this point from HTC, would be kernel source, period.
To each his own though.
I like to use my camera and don't feel like using my phone as a pocket warmer, while pretending everything is working great!
Bottom line I guess: The camera has absolutely nothing to do with the delayed ICS release.
HTC has no trouble making the camera work.
I agree. Nusense is awesome. I've never seen the point of running custom roms that don't at least have all the basic functions of the stock experience working, (besides maybe to help a custom rom developer to identify bugs/improve the rom) I.E., calls, camera, camcorder, data, wifi, calls, SMS, mms, etc. I appreciate all of our developers, past and present, but nusense is where it's at right now for ICS.
I would like to say and question at the same time...isn't the switch to ICS is a big change. Mainly the CPU/GPU driver for simultaneous use. This change for the thunderbolt is a huge battery drain from my opinion and one of the only reason HTC may be looking away from releasing an update to ICS. AND I think, as a final thought, it's no coincidence the kernel is not available. Bottom line, I love this phone, I like some sense features that Aosp doesn't but every gingerbread and ics Rom with sense have been battery hogs getting 12 hours of low low use. Maybe 1 hour of display and rest idle and radio standby. AOSP seems to be the best for this phone. if anyone can get remotely close to an aosp build in ics with our without sense is love to see it.
I have the rezound battery and under volted with liquid 3.2 gingerbread.
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I would like to say and question at the same time...isn't the switch to ICS is a big change. Mainly the CPU/GPU driver for simultaneous use. This change for the thunderbolt is a huge battery drain from my opinion and one of the only reason HTC may be looking away from releasing an update to ICS. AND I think, as a final thought, it's no coincidence the kernel is not available. Bottom line, I love this phone, I like some sense features that Aosp doesn't but every gingerbread and ics Rom with sense have been battery hogs getting 12 hours of low low use. Maybe 1 hour of display and rest idle and radio standby. AOSP seems to be the best for this phone. if anyone can get remotely close to an aosp build in ics with our without sense is love to see it.
I have the rezound battery and under volted with liquid 3.2 gingerbread.
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With aosp ICS I get pretty much the same battery life I got with aosp gb so I don't know why people aren't getting the same results. As for sense nusense is a great ICS ROM. It is far better than that crap leak that was released. Yea the battery life isn't what it should be considering the kernel in the leak isn't a finished product but at least everything works. In my experience with infected eternity I could get around 17 hours with a rezound battery which is almost better than some of the aosp ROMs I ran on both GB and ICS.
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Any idea on when at&t LG optimus g will be getting the 4.1.2 update? Or even just a 4.1 jellybean. I'm guessing it'll be 4.1.2. Since sprints version just got. Also I'm guessing this is why this device. Doesn't have so many. Roms as of yet.. maybe everyone is just waiting for. A. Ota. Jellybean
noone knows when AT&T will roll out the jelly bean update. there are some jelly bean roms in development section you can try out.
Yeah I'm so eager to try it out but I just got my phone yesterday lol I'm.probably gonna wait alil bit til I root and rom my phone
I'm waiting for keylime pie.
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I'm waiting for Lemon Meringue
What I ment was I'm guessing the devs for this device are waiting for the jellybean update. That's why there's not to many roms,I'm sure once jellybean hits this device everyone will start making roms. There's really no point in making roms since its on 4.0.4 make a rom jellybean hits then devs have to rebase and remake there whole rom so might as well wait.. hopefully its true though chus this is a really nice device to not have any support/roms
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What I ment was I'm guessing the devs for this device are waiting for the jellybean update. That's why there's not to many roms,I'm sure once jellybean hits this device everyone will start making roms. There's really no point in making roms since its on 4.0.4 make a rom jellybean hits then devs have to rebase and remake there whole rom so might as well wait.. hopefully its true though chus this is a really nice device to not have any support/roms
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Have you looked st the developer section? There's ROMs already out that are based on native code. The part where you say to not have any support or ROMs is far from true.
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Have you looked st the developer section? There's ROMs already out that are based on native code. The part where you say to not have any support or ROMs is far from true.
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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Stop whining about AT&T and do something about it. As in, try the Original Android Development forum. We have AOSP, AOKP, and CM10.1 mostly functional. I agree some more ROMs would be neat, but really, what are you so desperate for?
That said, I have an honest question: Aside from maybe PA, what are we still missing out on ROM-wise? 30 reskins of AOKP?
Edit: Sorry about the tone, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's sick of seeing this thread over and over again. Official 4.1.2 will come when it comes, but why not run an 80% functional 4.2.2 today?
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nobody is whining about anything,I can't give my honest opinion? Is there really something wrong with me speaking out? You ppl are are bashing on this device just chus it s made by lg with lg's u.I. I bet all the money in the world that if this device had htcs name on it or samsung this phone would be filled with roms and support. But no that's not the case just chus its lg and so many ppl hating on lg it has lack of support that's all I'm saying with this awsome device it has potential to have way more support
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Stop whining about AT&T and do something about it. As in, try the Original Android Development forum. We have AOSP, AOSP, and CM10.1 mostly functional. I agree some more ROMs would be neat, but really, what are you so desperate for?
That said, I have an honest question: Aside from maybe PA, what are we still missing out on ROM-wise? 30 reskins of AOKP?
Edit: Sorry about the tone, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's sick of seeing this thread over and over again. Official 4.1.2 will come when it comes, but why not run an 80% functional 4.2.2 today?
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X2. There's a fully functioning 4.1.2 that SnowLeopardJB created, in addition to the ones mentioned above. The 4.2.3 roms don't have fully functioning GPS or camera, but they will have them shortly. Synergye's created an AOSP rom, that's using the latest Android developments, that will put this device ahead of the N4, once the quirks are worked out. Reskins aren't ROM's, so leaving that nuance out, what ROM are you looking for that you can't run today?
One addition: If you bought this phone thinking that AT&T was going to support it, you didn't do your research. Apple and Samsung are the only devices that receive any support from AT&T. That's because the former does it's own device support and the latter has enough market share that they can enforce their will on AT&T.
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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yes i have. i have jelly bean on my LGOG right now and it is fully functional. you're saying there's no support or roms out for this device when that just isnt true. there's even a 4.2.2 rom out that can do everything except camera and GPS. and those will be fixed soon. so what i'm saying is if you say there's little support then you just arent seeing everything in this forum that is out. if you refuse to flash jelly bean on your phone right now then that's the choice you make to stick with ICS. you have the chance to get jelly bean on your LGOG right now, you're just deciding not to.
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X2. There's a fully functioning 4.1.2 that SnowLeopardJB created, in addition to the ones mentioned above. The 4.2.3 roms don't have fully functioning GPS or camera, but they will have them shortly. Synergye's created an AOSP rom, that's using the latest Android developments, that will put this device ahead of the N4, once the quirks are worked out. Reskins aren't ROM's, so leaving that nuance out, what ROM are you looking for that you can't run today?
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That was the core of my question. AOSP, AOKP, CM10.1, and ParanoidAndroid are the only major ROMs I've heard of, and we have all but the last one. This is my first Android device, so I wasn't sure if there was really something big we were still missing.
As for why this phone if I knew AT&T sucked? I needed a new phone when there was still no idea when the Nexus 4 would come back in stock, so I got what was thought to be the next best thing. Honestly, with AOSP, this will be even better than the N4 once the GPS and camera are working.
And I can always convert a year down the road when everyone moves on.
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As you've said in your other thread, you are new to this phone. Which means others have had this phone for a while. Whatever question(s) you might have probably has been asked and answered or at least discussed before already.
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nobody is whining about anything,I can't give my honest opinion? Is there really something wrong with me speaking out? You ppl are are bashing on this device just chus it s made by lg with lg's u.I. I bet all the money in the world that if this device had htcs name on it or samsung this phone would be filled with roms and support. But no that's not the case just chus its lg and so many ppl hating on lg it has lack of support that's all I'm saying with this awsome device it has potential to have way more support
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Correction: you are whining. Most of us love the device for A) basically being a suped up nexus B) first proper krait device with an sd card slot on att and C) for being really cheap on contract
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
Correction: you are whining. Most of us love the device for A) basically being a suped up nexus B) first proper krait device with an sd card slot on att and C) for being really cheap on contract
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Correction:saying what I want to say in my opinion is not whining in the comandments that's called "freedom of speech" not whining. You have a problem with that go rewrite the comandment with whining instead of freedom of speech chus I'm just stating my own opinion
Commandments? Are you referring to the Bill of Rights? You do know that that same freedom of speech is also extended to anyone who wants to say you are whining, right?
Anyway, enough of the childish back and forth. As stated myriad times in this forum, as is usually the case, no one knows for sure when we'll get JB from AT&T. We have some great devs working on giving us fully functional CM, AOKP and CFX. Patience is a virtue, and we'll be getting some more love soon.
In the meantime, what's missing from the stock experience? You want Google Now? You can get it. Other than that it's just as smooth as JB.
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Correction:saying what I want to say in my opinion is not whining in the comandments that's called "freedom of speech" not whining. You have a problem with that go rewrite the comandment with whining instead of freedom of speech chus I'm just stating my own opinion
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But when you're opinion is wrong, then that would be considered either a) not knowledgable of the facts, or b) whining...as others have said, if you want 10 different versions of AOSP or CM10.1, or 15 versions of the current kernel, then this may not be the phone for you. I could say that my opinion is that the sky is red, but just because I've stated that's my opinion doesn't make it correct. The current version of JB on this device works 100% and is smooth as any phone I've ever used...ever (and I've had all the latest and greatest). You never answered someone's earlier question...what is it exactly that you want that is not being offered at this time?
You may be new to the phone, but you're not new to the forums. So I'm hoping within the last ~2.5 years you've noticed that there's a search feature. Considering this phone has been out for 5-6 months?, correct me if I'm wrong, this question was bound to be asked several times. If you don't want people complaining about your complaining, then it's advised to look through the forums. Feel free to be ungrateful for what the devs of this community has given us, but it's not like you've made anything. If you're in such a hurry, build a rom yourself.