Help with deleting ram hogging apps - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently installed a Rom and the ram is consistently at 700mb can anyone advise me on how to lower this say yo 500 - 600mb.
Also is there a app or task manager that will allow me to decide what apps I want to stay open and what ones close after a pre defined time. Dont know if im thinking ahead with this app
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V6 supercharge and greenify, Google these
Actually it doesn't really matter about RAM...
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Thanks
I gave greenify a go looks pretty promising, once I actually get the hang of it
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Are you managing app auto starts? If not get LBE Security Master and set which apps you want to start up after booting. That will save you some RAM.

m0cha5hake said:
Are you managing app auto starts? If not get LBE Security Master and set which apps you want to start up after booting. That will save you some RAM.
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actually i have been using LEB for a year or so, and only use it as bandwidth monitor ... that function about disable autostart seems is not very working well because my RAM always got over 700+ MB.
but anyway , consider the Android's RAM management which is quite different to Windows , so i am fine with that ...
just my music player get killed frequently which is very annoying !!!

jcurran.jc said:
I recently installed a Rom and the ram is consistently at 700mb can anyone advise me on how to lower this say yo 500 - 600mb.
Also is there a app or task manager that will allow me to decide what apps I want to stay open and what ones close after a pre defined time. Dont know if im thinking ahead with this app
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Freeze some things with titanium backup. Greenify apps you don't need running in the background. I normally always have around 180mb of ram free with widgets on the homescreen, messaging and exdialer in memory, whatsapp, headset manager, google services, quickpic, Facebook notifications etc. Personally not a fan of Swap/ZRam/Supercharger. My best experience has easily been running stock or WanamLite with no tweaks/build.prop edits other than Jkay Deluxe. Also, Perseus kernel has some ram modifications in the kernel so you get an extra 20mb or so of ram

Still do not understand why people want more free RAM; free RAM is doing nothing, while RAM that is being used is caching apps in memory so it can be loaded faster, making a more responsive system. Please research. With that being said, too much RAM usage is not good; about 5% (45mbs on our GS3) should always be left idle.

qtwrk said:
actually i have been using LEB for a year or so, and only use it as bandwidth monitor ... that function about disable autostart seems is not very working well because my RAM always got over 700+ MB.
but anyway , consider the Android's RAM management which is quite different to Windows , so i am fine with that ...
just my music player get killed frequently which is very annoying !!!
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If you want more ram then you must setup which apps can launch in the background after startup. These are the apps that eat ram because they begin running by themselves and continue running even if you never use them. Of the 80+ plus apps that I have only 4 of them are allowed to startup on boot.

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Looking for apps to kill selective process and apps

The apps should present the battery consumption of each application particularly those connected to the internet. After I kill apps which I choose from the list ( like skype, viber, fring, whether , mail and else , it's could not wake up anymore . Until I run it manually .
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I believe having a task killer on the device is a Bad Thing™ since memory management is conducted very efficiently by the Android OS itself. However, if you feel you absolutely MUST have a task killer, there are a lot of them in the market. Don't take my word on it though. Here's some reading material for you to peruse.
Android Forums - What Is The Best Task Manager?
Why You Shouldn't Be Using A Task Killer With Android
Back when I use to use them the best apps for what you ate looking for ate two that can work with each othet made by the same developer.... autorun manager and autokiller memory optimizer... and they have the setting you want, to not allow the app to restart... but be warned... you can terribly frag your system if you don't know what you're doing or if you get trigger happy with the settings
What about apps that present the memory usage of each running apps or process
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What about apps that present the memory usage of each running apps or process
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AutoKiller Memory Optimizer will do what you want in that case

[Q] High Ram Usage problem. Help!!!

I am using Android 2.3.6 stock rom. My phone becomes very slow every 2-3 mins. When i open a task killer it shows 44mb-51mb ram. I have to clear all the apps and still it would show me 65mb-70nb ram. Phone gets ridiculously slow. Please help me with the solution.
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I am using Android 2.3.6 stock rom. My phone becomes very slow every 2-3 mins. When i open a task killer it shows 44mb-51mb ram. I have to clear all the apps and still it would show me 65mb-70nb ram. Phone gets ridiculously slow. Please help me with the solution.
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-go back to froyo
-or buy a new phone
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Any better Solution?
Delete useless apps that use RAM unnecessarily...
Prawesome said:
Delete useless apps that use RAM unnecessarily...
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Yea, like Samsung Apps, such a memory hog -.-
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use another task killer, or stop some services from settings->applications->running apps->from there, stop some apps you think uses your phone's memory too much.
other thing, remove any apps that uses data transfer or any background services.
First stop DATA then u need to stop some APPS like Samsung APPs. The way ur telling invokes that ur in STOCk
try to install custom ROM.
or delete some useless app.
Delete bloatware apps.
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i have found a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
reflash n try a custom rom
Are you using the stock task manager, or some app from the market (play)? If you're using an app, then begin by deleting that app. They do nothing good for your phone, quite the opposite in fact. As long as there is free ram left, then the ram is not to blame. And android should free the ram on it's own, so basically you shouldn't even need to free the ram by yourself.
If that is not the reason, then it is some app you have installed, which keeps running on the background and needlessly uses resources. The ace runs fine, even on stock rom. And that means that, either you or some app, is doing something wrong...

Q.is there a task killer that close apps forever?

everytime i kill app in the running apps it returns after few minuts(like facebook or wahtsapp or maps tap tap etc)
it there any task killer that will kill those apps and wond let them to work again?everyone of them taking sometime lot of ram and its very annoying.
jummy's rom toolbox can kill the intent that prevents some apps from launching (doesn't apply on all apps, some apps like hungry sharks can't be prevented from running, I don't know why).
or you can install an alternative app (for example, facebook) that does not run on background
when i see that app or game has background service with out good reason its always uninstall ,facebook need to have it becauce of push notification so i live it.
DZonikg said:
when i see that app or game has background service with out good reason its always uninstall ,facebook need to have it becauce of push notification so i live it.
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yes but i wish it could be like in ios device that when you close a program its done and it wont take ram again unless i will open it.
kfirbep said:
yes but i wish it could be like in ios device that when you close a program its done and it wont take ram again unless i will open it.
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Ios is not realy multitasking.Android is much better but some developers use it in a wrong way and dont care about your recoures..that is why its uninstall for me..its same on windows..when i instaled official facebook massenger for windows which is crapy simple program i notice that it uses 30% of my cpy which is quad core and 250 mb of ram which is absurd..it shoud use 0.01% of cpy and 10 mb of ram max...i try tu reinstall and the same so uninstall 2..most developers are lazy and dont optimise at all because they thing it will run so why bothering..
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DZonikg said:
Ios is not realy multitasking.Android is much better but some developers use it in a wrong way and dont care about your recoures..that is why its uninstall for me..its same on windows..when i instaled official facebook massenger for windows which is crapy simple program i notice that it uses 30% of my cpy which is quad core and 250 mb of ram which is absurd..it shoud use 0.01% of cpy and 10 mb of ram max...i try tu reinstall and the same so uninstall 2..most developers are lazy and dont optimise at all because they thing it will run so why bothering..
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Even that ios is not a real multi tasking for me it still smart "multi tasking"because when you exit an app in the middle of something it will freeze it and keep it on low memory and in that way you can open lot of apps and run which one that you want.
And in there when you close an app it wont return to after 5 minuts so you will need to close it again(like whatsapp,facebook,maps,etc)
If I had a 1gb of ram I wouldn't care that whastapp and facebook are open,but I have 512 ram that from that I only have max 220 of free ram so I can't let apps like facebook and whatsapp to be open
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Even that ios is not a real multi tasking for me it still smart "multi tasking"because when you exit an app in the middle of something it will freeze it and keep it on low memory and in that way you can open lot of apps and run which one that you want.
And in there when you close an app it wont return to after 5 minuts so you will need to close it again(like whatsapp,facebook,maps,etc)
If I had a 1gb of ram I wouldn't care that whastapp and facebook are open,but I have 512 ram that from that I only have max 220 of free ram so I can't let apps like facebook and whatsapp to be open
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They you would not have push notification..if someone send you facebook message you see it same second no matter you are on facebook or not.But i agree that google apps like maps just dont need to have background service.
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try freeze apps using Link2SD.

Question about ram usage

Well as the title says
I first had a stock s2 and the memory usage would always be 700+
In the task manager and it would close 28 apps and go down but always after doing stuff its back to 700+
Now i rooted the phone and deleted all apps i did not use like google+ chaton and all the stock samsung stuff thinking it would improve but it wont
Does anyone have any clue either how to stop these 28 things from running or all the time or see wat they actually are
Any help or tips appreciated
Gr.
Boss
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The short version re: Android & memory is - as Android is a Linux 'variant', and Linux variants don't like 'free memory', Android will reserve as much free memory as possible in order to make it immediately available when required (so there's no killing some processes in order to run other processes for example), it will also keep memory in reserve for apps you've recently closed/apps that are used a lot even after you close them in order to start them more quickly/get them up to speed when you do want to use them
Constantly manually 'freeing up' memory will actually make your phone less responsive.
In other words, let Android do its thing. People on here/elsewhere obsess about free memory because they're used to Windoze & even other phones/OS's.
This is the 'plain language' explanation, if you want the technicals, they're easily found online.
Edit - This is also a good explanation of how/why it works.
Thanks wasnt aware of the ram thing like this bit it sounds logic
But why are there 28things running ?
Makes nu sense to me
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Depends what those 28 process are.
With all operating systems, there's a lot of system processes running at any given time, Android is no exception to this.
You should never need to 'free up memory', and the only time you should need to manually close an app (with a task killer or similar) is if it's badly coded & doesn't exit 'gracefully' (99% of apps do these days).
What is a program u can advice me to use to check what is running (free app) preffered
Thanks
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Internal config option
KooolaNL said:
What is a program u can advice me to use to check what is running (free app) preffered
Thanks
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You don't need any app to see what is running; go to Settings / Applications and choose "Running" tab. It will show you the processes and services that are currently in use. Depending on the version of your Android, you will have an additional option already visible at bottom or available via menu: "show cache processes"; these are the processes for which Android reserved some memory in order to quickly re-execute them (like MistahBungle explained above.
Regards.

Not understanding Greenify at all

I understand the whole approach Android uses to memory management as opposed to Windows etc....
I also found this blurb below
It's important to note that Greenify is not a task killer (which you shouldn't use anyway), and it doesn't "freeze" apps. The apps that Greenify hibernates are still usable if you want to switch to them, and you can still pass data to them as though they were running. When you switch back to them, it's like you never left. Greenify just keeps those apps from launching new background processes (a problem with task killers) and you don't have to unfreeze or thaw an app to use it when you want to (a problem with "frozen apps").
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But here is what I don't understand:
1) Even though it isn't a Task Killer per-say, it sure sounds like an advanced task killer to me. If it is preventing something from starting up, it is killing it.
2) What benefit is Greenify supposed to have? Having all (by all I mean maybe 5 at most) desired apps hibernating, I have 700MB of free memory (using xposed method). If I remove Greenify I have 1.5GB of free RAM. These numbers are with ALL applications already open since boot that I use on a daily basis.
While full memory is not a bad thing in Android, how can it be better having 1 app hog all of the memory vs having 5 apps running in the background using less memory. Can someone shed some further light on this?
mikemikemikexxx said:
While full memory is not a bad thing in Android, how can it be better having 1 app hog all of the memory vs having 5 apps running in the background using less memory. Can someone shed some further light on this?
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If I understand you correctly you're saying that greenify uses a lot of ram? Greenify for me is idling at 5-7 mb of ram all for time.
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If I understand you correctly you're saying that greenify uses a lot of ram? Greenify for me is idling at 5-7 mb of ram all for time.
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Correct, it was literally using around 700Mb. I rebooted to make sure it wasn't a fluke. I removed Greenify, rebooted again and had 1.5Gb free Ram
mikemikemikexxx said:
Correct, it was literally using around 700Mb. I rebooted to make sure it wasn't a fluke. I removed Greenify, rebooted again and had 1.5Gb free Ram
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Sounds completely weird.
the main benefit of greenify is the point that it prevents apps from starting (they are frozen untill you open them) this way the apps can't force wakelocks and your device kann stay in deepsleep state longer
mikemikemikexxx said:
Correct, it was literally using around 700Mb. I rebooted to make sure it wasn't a fluke. I removed Greenify, rebooted again and had 1.5Gb free Ram
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As I understand, greenify to me is more to battery saver depends on stopping unwanted and unneeded wakelock when app is Greenified. Also as I understand, when an apps launch or relaunched, it will consume more ram in normal way (without being Greenified).
Try this, its not a solution, more to suggestion. Try use Wake Lock Detector along with Greenify, one app will detect the problem and another will execute an action to prevent "unwanted battery and RAM usage".
Above all, it depends on how and what method of modding you perform on your device.
Its just my logic thought(not black n white proven). Hope it will help us a little.
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But all the settings. It won't let me hibernate the apps before I've completed 10 - 15 settings and there are no explanations to what the settings are. Greentify is totally useless if you're not a techie.
RolfyBerg said:
But all the settings. It won't let me hibernate the apps before I've completed 10 - 15 settings and there are no explanations to what the settings are. Greentify is totally useless if you're not a techie.
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Well - not my experience; defaults work well on most devices. There are brief in-app explainations for many options with expanded material in FAQs, XDA forum and G+ pages. Best consider an iDevice if you need/want handholding; genius bars everywhere.

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