I'm wondering how to best migrate my applications and data from an Inspire to the new One. Obviously I can just reinstall everything, but that would take forever, because I have a lot of apps and also a lot of corresponding data.
I've backed everything up with TiBu, but when restoring, we have the option to reset a new device's ID number to that of the old one. Should I select that option or just start from scratch by reinstalling all the apps and only restoring data from the old handset? If I select the option to apply the ID from the Inspire to the new One, will that affect my Google Play and Amazon App Store accounts by causing them to display the wrong phone (i.e. Inspire instead of One)?
IOW, are there any dowsides to applying the old Device ID number from my Inspire to the new phone?
BillTheCat said:
I'm wondering how to best migrate my applications and data from an Inspire to the new One. Obviously I can just reinstall everything, but that would take forever, because I have a lot of apps and also a lot of corresponding data.
I've backed everything up with TiBu, but when restoring, we have the option to reset a new device's ID number to that of the old one. Should I select that option or just start from scratch by reinstalling all the apps and only restoring data from the old handset? If I select the option to apply the ID from the Inspire to the new One, will that affect my Google Play and Amazon App Store accounts by causing them to display the wrong phone (i.e. Inspire instead of One)?
IOW, are there any dowsides to applying the old Device ID number from my Inspire to the new phone?
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If I were you I would just reinstall because Google Play usually downloads all of the useful apps in the background once you open it once. Even if it glitches up and doesn't do that (happens sometimes) you can just reinstall the apps that you use (I find it useful to get rid of apps that I never use). If you want to use TiBu don't change your ID number.
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Ok, so if I reinstall my applications but don't change the device ID, will I have to buy all my licensed apps again because Google Play is seeing it as a new machine?
What I'm getting at is how to avoid losing all the licenses that I bought because I have a new phone. Or does Android licensing work by the application and Google ID no matter how many devices we use the software on, such as a phone and tablet?
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Ok, so if I reinstall my applications but don't change the device ID, will I have to buy all my licensed apps again because Google Play is seeing it as a new machine?
What I'm getting at is how to avoid losing all the licenses that I bought because I have a new phone. Or does Android licensing work by the application and Google ID no matter how many devices we use the software on, such as a phone and tablet?
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The latter. It's associated with your Google ID, just like iOS is associated with your Apple ID.
It's just the app data that won't cross over (saved games, etc).
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I just went from Paranoid Android to CyanogenMod, and expected to have to re-add several apps. If I go from an AOSP ROM back to a TouchWiz ROM, it is treated as a different device, and I get an app list months old. I was pleased to see Android attempting to download my newest set of apps...
However, the sync failed like it does 50% of the time (every app individually fails). Now when I visit the Google Play store, I see my 'new' phone with only a couple of apps installed. I just lost the entire list. Since there's no way to batch install apps with the Play Store, I get to spend a looooong time looking up and reinstalling them by clicking around like an idiot.
Am I missing something? Every element of the story I just described seems like awful design. I'd really not like to resort to AppBrain or something like it. It's incredibly stupid that if the Play Store has some error syncing apps, it makes the new short list the new goal for syncing (so, it won't even try next time).
In short, it would be ideal to have my list of installed apps tied to my account, so that in the event of a problem, I could just push a large "Yes, download ****ing everything" button. Apps that aren't compatible with THIS device can just be skipped I guess. Why is this so hard? Instead I'm going down my 'All' list on my phone, tapping 5 times per app to install them one by ****ing one.
Why don't you just backup apps with titanium and then restore them when you flash a new rom? Titanium has batch commands so it's pretty much one click for each. You can also set up a back up schedule so things are always backed up
Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Yea it will store all the apps. But if they are working, they probably aren't corrupt.
Also, I have had a few phones over the years linked to my Google account and the play store is never segmented by phone. All my apps that I have been using since my OG Droid show up on my note 2. The times I have let the play store sync my apps they all downloaded fine as long as your screen doesn't turn off which you can force to stay on in the dev settings
I have been using titanium for 5 years now. And have restored my apps literally hundreds of times. Never once did it not work. Never had a single failure. I also have only had the play store re install my apps once. That was the very first time time I flashed a rom back on my droid. That was the first and only time it did that.
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Simply as a matter of principle, I am not concerned with storing the apps themselves. The entire point of the app sync is to keep track of what I have installed. Backing up the apps themselves strikes me as a different goal entirely.
I've had many successful restores myself, but just as many failures. It isn't that difficult of a task... and if it does fail, when every app for some reason (even if it is a legitimate one) isn't installed , there's no way to retry the process. Your new list of synced apps is now the tiny amount that succeeded, the rest are lost to needing to manually reselect. This is absurd.
Multiple phones are definitely treated as separate app lists. I have 5 devices on my Play Store account; each has its own list of associated apps.
This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I have had the play store fail upon sync before, but it has never failed to keep the list of all the apps I've installed on any device tied to my google account. Strange that said list got wiped for you.
I'd just install a backup app and call it a day. I use Ultimate Backup Pro, by Jrummy. The newest version will sync your apps (a list, or the data) to Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive.
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This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I'd like to agree that it is petty, or believe the terms of the problem as you describe them.
It isn't petty that a feature is not working correctly. Flashing a phone gives a new device ID, but so does losing it, or replacing it. You're passing off the lack of harmony as my mistake.
The mere fact none of us can find a way to retry the app sync proves my point; this argument alone brings me a bit of closure, because at least I am not the only one with the issue. If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine. To suggest this behavior is the intention of Google, however, is nonsense.
...and one last word: if it were as simple as getting a new device ID upon each flash, surely I'd be able to log in to the Play Store and view the list of apps on my 'old' device, right? How does Google know that device no longer exists? How are the two ideas of "syncing apps, but not across different devices" and "getting a new ID upon flash, then attempting to sync" both able to exist?
Perhaps I'm wrong about all of this, but can you really say using 3rd party software to remedy a failed sync is not noteworthy? I specifically remember myself mocking the idea of avoiding 3rd party software when a user wanted to solve a problem... this is much different. This is a legitimate issue with an existing feature.
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If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine.
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No one said you should backup/restore app data, just the app itself. The app data is actually frowned upon for the most part. Although I have done it numerous times and have never had an issue, but that's a whole different can of worms
But in the end, you do what you want to do.
You are tilting at windmills.
There is a reason everyone uses an app backup program like Titanium or My Backup Pro (those are the two I use). It's the easiest/fastest way to restore apps. Google backup and restore was not intended for 'us' who root. No amount of believing its wrong the way it works is going to change that.
There are apps that will only backup the market link (to your storage) but the only one I know of does not have a one button restore. But it's called App List Backup if you want to check it out.
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I love titanium backup. The fact that I can backup all of my apps and restore them plus restore data, such as the music that's already buffered on Google play music is great. Is a time saver! Imop
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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You like to find problems instead of solutions. Sure it's a little bit of work to go down the Google Play list and install the one you want but how often are you planning to break/lose/corrupt your phone?
Backup file size. Backup to dropbox. Backup to your SDCard. Move your backup file to your PC.
Restoring a device to the way it was. Do a nandroid. Use your extSDCard. Root the new phone and restore. Boom exactly the way you left it.
I think you already mentioned that you didn't want to use AppBrain. But that is another potential solution.
I realize you want a perfect native Google solution but we are not the ones who can solve that for you. It would be a nice feature, but I still wouldn't use it. App backup gives me more control with really no downside. And nandroid is a perfect system restore with data intact.
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Hopefully upgrading today to the New One M8 device. I have ATT One X+ now and going to Verizon for the New One. Just curious of how to successfully transfer all my apps and all their data to new device? I know Google will download all my apps once I co figure my new device but how about their data? Like my private photos saved in Vaulty app, my game progress in dead trigger 2, etc?
I don't know if titanium backup is the answer and if it will work as it's backing up on this device then trying to restore app data on HTC New One M8 device?
This One X+ is my first android phone so never done this before upgrading to another android device. Appreciate any help in simple terms for me.
In settings and backup I have the box checked that says backup app data to Google on WiFi connection if that makes a difference?
You should have asked this question after you got your new phone .
I have only one phone, but I also have a virtual android device running via BlueStacks. Both are connected to one google account. After I downloaded Asphalt 8 on Blue Stacks, it didn't restore my save games from my HTC (but even Asphalt has an in-build cloud store option). So I've created a backup of my save game using Helium/Carbon and restored it, but I think Titanium should work as well.
If using Helium/Carbon, you are can connect one phone to another using an internet connection. Then, you can choose on one phone "restore app data from other phone" option. While you simply relax, the whole thing is going on... And works!
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You should have asked this question after you got your new phone .
I have only one phone, but I also have a virtual android device running via BlueStacks. Both are connected to one google account. After I downloaded Asphalt 8 on Blue Stacks, it didn't restore my save games from my HTC (but even Asphalt has an in-build cloud store option). So I've created a backup of my save game using Helium/Carbon and restored it, but I think Titanium should work as well.
If using Helium/Carbon, you are can connect one phone to another using an internet connection. Then, you can choose on one phone "restore app data from other phone" option. While you simply relax, the whole thing is going on... And works!
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I wanted to have all my ducks in order before I get my new phone. Worst case I basically saved storage on my device to my laptop so can manually do that for music, photos, etc.
Thing is the New One M8 device does not have root yet so can't even use titanium backup. Does this carbon app work without root?
Thing is I'm trading in my One X+ for my new device so I have to backup my phone to my laptop which I did.
What I'm worried about now though is game data for dead trigger 2. Have a lot of time and money in that game and hate to lose it all when installing on my new device.
Carbon does work without root, my HOX+ is unrooted. The only thing is, you need to connect your phone to your PC once. After that, you can plug it out and use Carbon. You will have to repeat it only if you reboot your device.
[Q] Change "Serial Number" or "System Identifier" (Unsure What To Call It?)
Okay, some apps, such as FeaturePoints, tie itself to the system somehow. Like no matter how many times you clear the system data, wipe cache, etc....it keeps that information on your phone. I guess it goes by serial # or something. But I have FeaturePoints on my phone but the referral code I used it linked to someone I don't wish to support anymore. The only way I can input another referral code is to be able to start over as if the app has never been installed on the device. I know Apple uses a UDID which can be changed via a Jailbreak tweak. I used to use Grindr Xtra for like 30 days by changing my UDID every time I wanted to use it. Other apps do the same thing I believe....so is there any way to change the serial # or UDID (if thats what its called on Android) to make it think the app is being installed on a device for the first time?
Android I'D can be changed by Titanium Backup app, paid version, you maybe able to find other way to change
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Android I'D can be changed by Titanium Backup app, paid version, you maybe able to find other way to change
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This. Manage android id in titanium backup menu gives the option to generate new random number.
Well, I tried it.....$5.99 and it didn't do what I wanted. I was wanting it to ask me to sign up with FeaturePoints again, but it didn't....it loaded it up as it normally would....I even deleted the app and re-installed it after changing ID...
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Well, I tried it.....$5.99 and it didn't do what I wanted. I was wanting it to ask me to sign up with FeaturePoints again, but it didn't....it loaded it up as it normally would....I even deleted the app and re-installed it after changing ID...
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Is it tied into your Facebook acct. or Google acct. ?
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Is it tied into your Facebook acct. or Google acct. ?
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I think its tied to your phone serial #.....You do have to tell it your G+ or FB account, but even putting in a different one doesn't make a difference (I've tried with two Google accounts and 2 FB accounts)
As some of you may know, recently I have purchased an LG G5. I want to know specifically is there any advantage to using near field communications, (NFC), versus using Google to restore data, contents, etc as previously used on an older or previous phone.
I would appreciate any detailed answers as I cannot receive any from members of the retail store.
I'd nfc transfer
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As some of you may know, recently I have purchased an LG G5. I want to know specifically is there any advantage to using near field communications, (NFC), versus using Google to restore data, contents, etc as previously used on an older or previous phone.
I would appreciate any detailed answers as I cannot receive any from members of the retail store.
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NFC is local. Google is through the cloud.
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NFC is local. Google is through the cloud.
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1St, thanks for your response. I appreciate it.
2ND, I know one is local Vs cloud, but are they exactly the same? Does NFC transfer ALL apps, the app data, non-market linked apps, etc.
I am specifically curious to find out if it actually transfers carrier specific bloat software from let's say a previously-owned AT&T or Verizon phone, to the new phone by transfer. That would suck.
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1St, thanks for your response. I appreciate it.
2ND, I know one is local Vs cloud, but are they exactly the same? Does NFC transfer ALL apps, the app data, non-market linked apps, etc.
I am specifically curious to find out if it actually transfers carrier specific bloat software from let's say a previously-owned AT&T or Verizon phone, to the new phone by transfer. That would suck.
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No, cloud will only bring down apps and possibly accounts (wallpapers, etc). It won't bring down any app data (like game progress, app configurations, etc).
I believe if you do a backup and restore from an LG to an LG device, then it will copy all data... But via NFC will copy all data that isn't app data. It'll copy over pictures, videos, download folder, apps - but again, no app data.
I could be wrong though. Whenever I get a new device, I like to start anew, and just have my apps be reinstalled.
I tried the NFC+BT route (NFC starts BT file swapping). It kept failing from my original Z2 so had to do it the cloud way. It did prompt me to select a device and backup.
Also my cloud backup did include app data including accounts, config and app settings.
Hello, how can I restore my apps and app data from my Huawei Y9 Prime to my Moto G Stylus 5G? I've been searching all over, tried multiple cloning apps from the Google Playstore (which none successfully cloned my apps, they just transferred over the apks therefore my data wouldn't carry over), but am still unsure on how I should go about it. Neither of my devices are rooted, but if that's a requirement in order to fully restore my apps and their data, then I'll go ahead and do that. A lot of my apps are installed through apks and I have about 200 apps/games total, so for the things that are available through the Playstore, I rather not go through each and every one. When I switched from my Huawei Honor 6x to my Y9 Prime, it transfered absolutely everything seamlessly just as I left it on my Honor 6x. But that method is unavailable this time since my new device isn't from Huawei, and there's no special cloning app from Motorola themselves. Each time I've attempted a cloning app yesterday (I tried about 5),none carried over any of my apps despite me selecting "apps" on every single one. On one if them it said something about "android restrictions" or something.