How many different revisions of Fascinate do we think there are? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Being without my dev laptop for a couple days, I'm bored - lol.
I was wondering if we know how many hardware revisions of the Fascinate there are out there. I know they all claim to be i500.04, but I've had enough of them to know they are certainly not all created equally.
From the ones I've had/have, the screen seems to be the tip-off. I can account for three different "models" myself:
1. The "good ones". These are black and have the nice screens. Fairly accurate color temperature, very bright with bold colors. These also seem to run the fastest and are the most likely to be able to overclock to 1.4GHz successfully. Also for me, the least amount of trouble with Wifi enable/disable when that was a problem. These are the ones my wife and I got from Verizon back in 9/2010, and I've gotten hold of an official Samsung refurb recently that fits this category. The one Fassy I bricked was like this as well (so sad, stupid corrupt boot.bin)
2. The "warm ones". I have two of them, they aren't my favorites. Black case, but a very warm (red) color temperature screen that tends to be less bright and lacks the color oomph. Mine have notably slower performance than what I call the good ones above, and had something different about Wifi that required a special change to stop the enable/disable problems. I use them as clocks and as Sonos device controllers, always on 24/7 in docks, and they serve that purpose well.
3. The "cool ones". Both white and black cases, although I've only seen the black ones as display models. Every white one I've seen fits this category. These seem to run well, but the screens are terribly cool (blue), to the point of being off-putting to me. Unfortunately I gave the one I had away before I started working on GeeWiz 3/4, but I don't recall it being as slow the "warm ones". It was the screen color that made me not want to use it.
Silly topic, I know. Just wondering... lol

djp952 said:
Being without my dev laptop for a couple days, I'm bored - lol.
I was wondering if we know how many hardware revisions of the Fascinate there are out there. I know they all claim to be i500.04, but I've had enough of them to know they are certainly not all created equally.
From the ones I've had/have, the screen seems to be the tip-off. I can account for three different "models" myself:
1. The "good ones". These are black and have the nice screens. Fairly accurate color temperature, very bright with bold colors. These also seem to run the fastest and are the most likely to be able to overclock to 1.4GHz successfully. Also for me, the least amount of trouble with Wifi enable/disable when that was a problem. These are the ones my wife and I got from Verizon back in 9/2010, and I've gotten hold of an official Samsung refurb recently that fits this category. The one Fassy I bricked was like this as well (so sad, stupid corrupt boot.bin)
2. The "warm ones". I HATE THESE. I have two of them, they are the worst. Black case, but a very warm (red) color temperature screen that tends to be less bright and lacks the color oomph. Notably slower performance than the good ones, and had something different about Wifi that required a special change to stop the enable/disable problems. I've relegated both of these for alarm clock/Sonos controller purposes since they suck so bad, and I don't care if the screen gets worn out from being on the clock DayDream 24/7. I'd shoot them if I didn't have a use for them!
3. The "cool ones". Both white and black cases, although I've only seen the black ones as display models. Every white one I've seen fits this category. These seem to run well, but the screens are terribly cool (blue), to the point of being off-putting. Unfortunately I gave the one I had away before I started working on GeeWiz 3/4, but I don't recall it being slow and annoying the "warm ones". It was the terrible screen that made me not want to use it.
Silly topic, I know. Just wondering... lol
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i didn't know there were different variants of the same phone. now you have me wondering about which one i have, lol

I have the warm one but hey I got this thing over clocked to 1.4 its like grease lightning lol
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bbrad said:
I have the warm one but hey I got this thing over clocked to 1.4 its like grease lightning lol
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haha, i can oc over 1400, but i don't. i like having battery left =p

ztotherad said:
haha, i can oc over 1400, but i don't. i like having battery left =p
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How devil kernel doesn't allow over 1.4
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bbrad said:
How devil kernel doesn't allow over 1.4
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lol i run the cm10.1 kernel with TWRP. cause i rock like that

ztotherad said:
lol i run the cm10.1 kernel with TWRP. cause i rock like that
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Yea but how can you over clock over 1.4 if it doesn't allow it
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bbrad said:
I have the warm one but hey I got this thing over clocked to 1.4 its like grease lightning lol
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So, um, basically then I just insulted the phone of a fellow Fascinate lover. Open mouth ... insert foot. My bad dude, I wasn't thinking. THIS is why I don't leave my thread! I'm apparently an uncivilized heathen.
(I know you didn't take it that way, but really I should have thought more about saying I hated the phones with the warm screen, that was uncool how I worded it -- I have removed the hate from the post, but it's immortalized in a quote anyway - ha)

Wow I didn't know there were versions like that floating out there- I guess I got lucky because I seem to have the 'good' one, yet I got mine mid-2011 (on Verizon) so it would have been possible to get one of the others I guess...

bbrad said:
Yea but how can you over clock over 1.4 if it doesn't allow it
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haha, bro, when I use the Devil Kernel I can, but I don't use it anymore since I find that the cm10.1 kernel stable, just needs more options, in which I'm attempting to work on... I just need to figure out how to cherry pick.

djp952 said:
So, um, basically then I just insulted the phone of a fellow Fascinate lover. Open mouth ... insert foot. My bad dude, I wasn't thinking. THIS is why I don't leave my thread! I'm apparently an uncivilized heathen.
(I know you didn't take it that way, but really I should have thought more about saying I hated the phones with the warm screen, that was uncool how I worded it -- I have removed the hate from the post, but it's immortalized in a quote anyway - ha)
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Its fine no offense taken especially from a great dev like you
ztotherad said:
haha, bro, when I use the Devil Kernel I can, but I don't use it anymore since I find that the cm10.1 kernel stable, just needs more options, in which I'm attempting to work on... I just need to figure out how to cherry pick.
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Devil kernel only allows up to 1.4...
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bbrad said:
Its fine no offense taken especially from a great dev like you
Devil kernel only allows up to 1.4...
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haha i know i know, but it doesn't include TWRP recovery at this time. but i may just have to install the devil kernel and see if cwm is better cause twrp is giving me problems

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[Q] Should I hop on CM6.2/7?

I'm currently on EB01, voodoo undervolt kernel from imnuts07, and I'm quite liking it... but I'm slightly bothered by the severe drop-off in theme creation lately, because the Fascinate is, well, old. I hopped on the Fascinate train reeeeeal late and will have it for a while still... I've heard good things about CM 6.2.0 and CM7 (the ones JT put out, because he loves us all), especially involving themes, should I switch? I never use camcorder or BT calling, and only rarely use MMS; but is it worth the whole backup-wipe-restore pain in the ass?
Sorry for the wall of text. I worry quite a bit about my phone, but have a huge interest in moving it forward. Hell, I don't really have any problems with Touchwiz, but Cyanogenmod just seems kinda, I dunno... badass, or something.
Suggestions please?
obsidianchao said:
I'm currently on EB01, voodoo undervolt kernel from imnuts07, and I'm quite liking it... but I'm slightly bothered by the severe drop-off in theme creation lately, because the Fascinate is, well, old. I hopped on the Fascinate train reeeeeal late and will have it for a while still... I've heard good things about CM 6.2.0 and CM7 (the ones JT put out, because he loves us all), especially involving themes, should I switch? I never use camcorder or BT calling, and only rarely use MMS; but is it worth the whole backup-wipe-restore pain in the ass?
Sorry for the wall of text. I worry quite a bit about my phone, but have a huge interest in moving it forward. Hell, I don't really have any problems with Touchwiz, but Cyanogenmod just seems kinda, I dunno... badass, or something.
Suggestions please?
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Well, if you really want themes. Hop on CM7 and basically you can flash any CM7theme on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527
or wait couple weeks or months(depends on source drop) for better CM7.
Huh. That's actually really cool. Other than the few broken things and the amass of themes, is it that much different from what I have now?
there are dozens of themes available for froyo....you could flash 1 a day and it would take weeks to get through all of them
i dont see how this phone can be accused of having a lack of themes at all
nitsuj17 said:
there are dozens of themes available for froyo....you could flash 1 a day and it would take weeks to get through all of them
i dont see how this phone can be accused of having a lack of themes at all
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Theme devving SLOWED, dude. Plus, I'm picky....
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Theme devving SLOWED, dude. Plus, I'm picky....
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Nitjus/nitro they all try their best to satisfy us. So if you cant find one, port or make one of urself rather than complaining.
You've just been Fascinated
xHoLyx said:
Nitjus/nitro they all try their best to satisfy us. So if you cant find one, port or make one of urself rather than complaining.
You've just been Fascinated
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I'm... not complaining? I love the theme I'm on, I just love switching constantly, so should I go to CM? Yeah, screw it, gonna try CM6.2.0.
obsidianchao said:
I'm... not complaining? I love the theme I'm on, I just love switching constantly, so should I go to CM? Yeah, screw it, gonna try CM6.2.0.
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CM6.2.0 has less problems than CM7, but "if" you want themes go for CM7. But I preferably say CM6.2.0 is better for now.
xHoLyx said:
CM6.2.0 has less problems than CM7, but "if" you want themes go for CM7. But I preferably say CM6.2.0 is better for now.
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I want themes, but I use the majority of the broken things in CM7...
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Theme devving SLOWED, dude. Plus, I'm picky....
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well it slowed relative to how it was after froyo dropped as we had to report themes daily so for a month or two tons of stuff came out
but relative to the thunderbolt which is new...we still have just as many themes coming out....to each his own in preference
but one doesnt need 3 new themes a day
personally i used to port a lot of themes but as a grew as a themer i started getting into doing a better job and putting in more detail so things take longer...also i dont use others original work anymore....so im not putting out 2-3 a week anymore
Alright, not hopping after all, as after looking, the majority of those themes are for CM7, and Fascinate's CM7 is so broken....
I'm loving cm6...best performance to date by far...haven't even thought about jumping to cm7
**Rockin jt's CM6**
But how many themes are for CM6.2.0?
With all the personalization options...I don't need a theme. You can change items in the notification bar and colors of all texts and background colors. All built in
**Rockin jt's CM6**
hbc.ciccone said:
With all the personalization options...I don't need a theme. You can change items in the notification bar and colors of all texts and background colors. All built in
**Rockin jt's CM6**
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Holy ****, mind showing some pics?
Cm7 is good imo but I don't use the broken stuff much so yea lol xD
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xain713 said:
Cm7 is good imo but I don't use the broken stuff much so yea lol xD
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If YouTube worked, I'll be all over CM7.
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Yes, I've found out the hard way that even trying bt on cm7 forced a battery pull, so it's definitely not for everyone at this point. But it is _awesome_ to be running a usable gingerbread rom that I can build myself! (i love you jt)
cm6.2 is definitely more stable but exchange push issues led me to give cm7 a try. So far no exchange issues with cm7 but I won't know for sure until monday...
btw I noticed that cm6 had perfect audio on a2dp vs stock eb01 that was glitching on me at least every 15 min w/pandora.
noobidity update:
neglected wiping dalvik cache on first flashing which caused several issues that I wrongly attributed to cm7. A2DP _does_ work on cm7.
TheSonicEmerald said:
If YouTube worked, I'll be all over CM7.
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Also USB mass storage. Grr. And I seem to use MMS a lot...
I've Tried both CM's and While the Themes of CM7 out Pace CM6.2 in style,
knowing that I couldn't use as a daily driver, is what made me go back to CM6.2(even though it has somethings that still don't work as well),
My 2Cents

[Q] Are you happy with your new phone ? (POLL)

Before ordering mine, a small poll
(Edit : "Your Phone", meaning your new S2 of course !!! )
No!!!
Because i have a N97 now, i guess in a few days i'll be happy with my SGS2
So far yes.
Yes, absolutely. I can see this potentially breaking my record for longest-owned phone.
As long as the gps is good, and doesn't cut out mid-journey (****ty DHD), it'll be perfect.
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Definitely. Coming from the hero I am struggling to cope with the speed of this thing! It surprises me every time I launch an app! Touch wiz lasted about an hour before I tried to change the dock and it wouldn't let me. Golauncher ruins like a dream.
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I would pick first option but i don't have the phone yet
absolutely love it and i can yet think of a thing i'm not happy about. i feel sorry for my old desire which looks bulky and slow compare to this..=)
9mmpistol said:
Definitely. Coming from the hero I am struggling to cope with the speed of this thing! It surprises me every time I launch an app! Touch wiz lasted about an hour before I tried to change the dock and it wouldn't let me. Golauncher ruins like a dream.
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Open the app drawer, then press menu and choose edit. Now you can longpress the dock icons, widget style, then drag them to the app drawer. You can put whatever you want in the dock, although I believe only 3 apps (because the drawer needs an icon)
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TouchWiz lasted about an hour for me too. It was actually the same problem that made me download ADW but even though I worked out how to do it, there's no reason to stick with it. The app drawer was such a mess, 6 pages of unsorted crap and no apparent way to sort alphabetically. I'm hearing more and more about Golauncher, I must try it.
if any one dares to say not happy, you better have a very very good reason why
AllGamer said:
if any one dares to say not happy, you better have a very very good reason why
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Phone doesn't make coffee.
9mmpistol said:
Definitely. Coming from the hero I am struggling to cope with the speed of this thing! It surprises me every time I launch an app! Touch wiz lasted about an hour before I tried to change the dock and it wouldn't let me. Golauncher ruins like a dream.
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Same here, my Hero is heading for Fleabay!!!
THIS PHONE IS AMAZING, and i actually really like Touchwiz, and as there was an app drawer sorter for the SGS, i'm sure one will come for this!
Might switch to ADW like i had on my Hero, especially with all that screen real estate, i can fit 6 rows on the home screen!!
Dickie
3 questions from a future potential buyer:
1 - Does this finally have a Notification LED? (or do we have to use another backlight hack?)
2 - Does the phone get warm/hot during browsing especially with whites backgrounds? (Any temperature posts would be extremely welcomed, since this was an annoying issue with my Galaxy S)
3 - Does the phone feel too big? (length wise)
^ I always felt 4' was the sweet spot for phones. Your thoughts?
TIA!...
ccrows said:
3 questions from a future potential buyer:
1 - Does this finally have a Notification LED? (or do we have to use another backlight hack?)
2 - Does the phone get warm/hot during browsing especially with whites backgrounds? (Any temperature posts would be extremely welcomed, since this was an annoying issue with my Galaxy S)
3 - Does the phone feel too big? (length wise)
^ I always felt 4' was the sweet spot for phones. Your thoughts?
TIA!...
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Pretty much what I was wondering. Just sold my Cappy for $500 and was looking for the next beast of a phone. Since the Atrix is uh.."limited", the sensation not out as yet, I guess the SGS 2 is probably my best bet, but a few questions, Im in Canada and:
1. Would it work on Rogers?
2. Am I even able to get it over here? 2a. And how?
How do people have the phone, it hasn't even come out?
It has come out in the UK hasn't it?
Lakitu said:
It has come out in the UK hasn't it?
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yes indeed
im not happy, i hate it.
Every freeken time i take out my phone some one wants to play with it.
and all these iphone 4 users keep getting dribble over my fone from salivating over its speed and flash support.
Owe and the worst thing some looser called steve jobs keeps emailing me asking if he could borrow it.
I should have kept my iphone 4 no one batters and eye.
Owe well the hassle continue.
LOL jokes im still waiting but i expect it to be like that.
If Engadget Guys (Fanboys) changed their view about android after SGS2, I am sure your mates will love it too. Its a race now.. Apple need to come up with something very unique to overcome Android.
NIK516 said:
im not happy, i hate it.
Every freeken time i take out my phone some one wants to play with it.
and all these iphone 4 users keep getting dribble over my fone from salivating over its speed and flash support.
Owe and the worst thing some looser called steve jobs keeps emailing me asking if he could borrow it.
I should have kept my iphone 4 no one batters and eye.
Owe well the hassle continue.
LOL jokes im still waiting but i expect it to be like that.
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ccrows said:
3 questions from a future potential buyer:
1 - Does this finally have a Notification LED? (or do we have to use another backlight hack?)
2 - Does the phone get warm/hot during browsing especially with whites backgrounds? (Any temperature posts would be extremely welcomed, since this was an annoying issue with my Galaxy S)
3 - Does the phone feel too big? (length wise)
^ I always felt 4' was the sweet spot for phones. Your thoughts?
TIA!...
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1. No
2. Not noticably
3. It's not comfortable for long phone calls (as I discovered last night), but for general usage it's about the right size for me. Despite it's gargantuan scree it is so svelte and quite ergomical, so it doesn't feel ridiculous in the hand.

So far this phone rocks.

1...My skyrocket looks small compared to the note.
2..Have big hands so no issues typing etc
3..Everyone at work today was like wth is that.
So far im loving it. Anyway back to playing..
Let the games begin.
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Congrats man enjoy it I will have mine soon enough
Best comments I've heard bout mine are
"Nice 19" Samsung TV"
"Nice phone does it come with a backpack?"
"Zach Morris wants his cell phone back"
"Can I watch HD porn on your phone?"
I had someone ask me is that the new iPhone?????
brokenartist said:
I had someone ask me is that the new iPhone?????
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I would've give them the WTF look, haha.
After messing with it for awhile, I notice it lags a little.
Skyrocket? My Streak looks small now. And I used to tell people the Streak was the new iPhone XL prototype model. Now I'm going to say it's the new iPhone XXL model.
I knew this phone was big but I could not believe how small my Samsung Skyrocket looked compared to this phone. I don't know if I can ever go back to a small 4.5" screen again. I love the keyboard especially in landscape. The keys are the perfect size now.
NR017 said:
I would've give them the WTF look, haha.
After messing with it for awhile, I notice it lags a little.
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Its because of that stock ****ty rom.
NR017 said:
After messing with it for awhile, I notice it lags a little.
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I feel as if the stock launcher is the cause. I've been messing around with different launchers and have noticed that there isn't any lag on some of the others. Such as Zeam or even Launcher Pro
Anyone notice the auto brightness is really touchy? I feel like it is constantly adjusting, so I just turned it off.
Oh and Fruit Ninja with the s-pen isn't even fair
If you think that your skyrocket is small you should see my wifes iphone4 or my atrix after holding this thing!
jpeg42 said:
Anyone notice the auto brightness is really touchy? I feel like it is constantly adjusting, so I just turned it off.
Oh and Fruit Ninja with the s-pen isn't even fair
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S-pen and wheres my water..i never even thought..thanks
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Yeah the s-pen is gonna be very handy for alot of stuff...and for the hell of it I put my wife iphone next the note. Freaking tiny.lol
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I can't wait to line my Note side-by-side with my Streak, Aria, and Pre 3 once I get it. 2 giants and 2 midgets.
The aria is smaller lengthwise than our screen is widthwise I bet lmao
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jpeg42 said:
Anyone notice the auto brightness is really touchy? I feel like it is constantly adjusting, so I just turned it off.
Oh and Fruit Ninja with the s-pen isn't even fair
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Yes that is something I noticed right away. My Atrix looks so small already. Hope I can get used to the size but I think I like it.
LTE is not in my area yet so I tried to see if I could just pop that sim in but no data worked just calls. Maybe the apn settings?
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NR017 said:
After messing with it for awhile, I notice it lags a little.
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coming from a iP 3gs trying to run iOS 5, it takes a lot for me to notice lag anymore.
jimmer411 said:
The aria is smaller lengthwise than our screen is widthwise I bet lmao
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I laid my Aria flat across my Streak from left-to-right. It goes up to like the 4 capacitive buttons, then the rest sticks out.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of it still sticks out when it's laid sideways on the Note.
my wrist pops as I stretch my thumb out to reach the 'qwas' keys with my thumb.....and this thing is like "back pocket" big...but so gorgeous. Already noticed the pen only works on this, not even my tiny skyrocket.
This will be so sweet for remote desktop. no more Galaxy Tab to lug around.
I love this freaking phone so far!!! Web browsing is an absolute pleasure on this beast. I was shocked that it really doesn't take much to to get used to the S-Pen, get better every time I show someone how it works. Oh and LTE is the bomb in Atlanta!!!!!! On my second speed test inside the home depot I work at I got 50 mbps down and 12 mbps up!! SWEET!!!

Worth Changing to Gnexus?

I have gone through 9 replacements trying to get the right phone over the last couple of months and am getting tired of it, what's everyone's opinion about switching to the nexus? I have to admit CM9* and MIUI are a big plus.
i just got a nexus and i love it, battery life seems alot better too. i will say the design of the rezound is better though.
I traded my nexus for my rezound a while ago and never looked back.
love this phone.
the nex is nice, but sense is what I like, I also found the overall build to be better on the rezound, (usually is with HTC..)
I came from a nexus for 2 reasons... 1) The radios are terrible on the Nexus. In my house, my wife has a Thunderbolt and I had the Nexus. Side by side, she would have 3 or 4 bars of 4G, me on the Nexus, like 2 bars of 3G or 1x. also the build quality is much superior to the Nexus. 2, I Luke the challenge of rooting lol. I had a Rezound before but I never rooted it. Traded for the GNex when it came out. I feel its an overall better experience with my rezound. If Ur looking to easily root and have a plethora of dev support, get the Nexus. If u like better radios and built quality, stick with the Rezound.
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I traded my GNex for a Rezound and the only thing I missed was ICS. This was my first Sense phone and I wasn't sure if I was going to like it. Turns out I really like it. Weird that you've had 9 lemons.. Mine has been flawless
Slacker101 said:
I have gone through 9 replacements trying to get the right phone over the last couple of months and am getting tired of it, what's everyone's opinion about switching to the nexus? I have to admit CM7 and MIUI are a big plus.
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*CM9. thats ics. cm7 is GB
antp121 said:
*CM9. thats ics. cm7 is GB
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Thanks lol just caught that myself, it's a habit xD used to have CM7 on my fascinate long long ago
If Ur looking to easily root and have a plethora of dev support, get the Nexus. If u like better radios and built quality, stick with the Rezound.
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I partially agree although I haven't had the best experience with the build quality on the rezound....
Traded my nexus for a rezound also. Gnex battery life sucks, camera sucks, and the phone is to big to hold in hand.
andybones said:
I traded my nexus for my rezound a while ago and never looked back.
love this phone.
the nex is nice, but sense is what I like, I also found the overall build to be better on the rezound, (usually is with HTC..)
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this(except for the liking sense part ).
i traded my gnex for a dev rezound(and then an s-off method popped up )
ive actually got 2 of them.since i could s-off my first one, i keep the dev phone put up for emergencies.
ive found the rezound to be of the same quality as all other htc phones ive had. i drive for a living,and my phone rides around all day with me,sometimes getting to 120+ degrees if i leave it on the seat in the sun. ive flashed it,s offed it twice, flashed the crap out of it some more,dropped it,and in general abused the crap out of it.
i loved stock ICS and wanted to love the gnex since it it googles proprietary phone,but to me it felt cheap and plasticy.
after 9 phones,i think you are overly critical and should move on to another device that may make you happier.
scotty1223 said:
after 9 phones,i think you are overly critical and should move on to another device that may make you happier.
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I was thinking the same thing.
We have probably 10 rezounds on our corporate account & only one has had to be replaced.
I can't even imagine how you could legitimatelly have 9 defective devices in a row..........
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I was thinking the same thing.
We have probably 10 rezounds on our corporate account & only one has had to be replaced.
I can't even imagine how you could legitimatelly have 9 defective devices in a row..........
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jmorton10 said:
I was thinking the same thing.
We have probably 10 rezounds on our corporate account & only one has had to be replaced.
I can't even imagine how you could legitimatelly have 9 defective devices in a row..........
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It has happened to me with Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it has something to do with the refurbishment process.
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+ 1 he probably had pink buttons
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I have NEVER sent a phone back due to pink buttons, no matter how much I dislike them. The first four were when I first got the phone, since I came from a droid charge and was comped this I got a refurb. First one had dead pixels, second one had the hissing audio jack, third one had a giant scratch on the screen, fourth one had a blown speaker, the fifth one was just right. Fast forward five months my "just right" phone would go through an extended and a stock battery in 12 hours, completely stock, never unlocked. I was annoyed and got a replacement. The first replacement was fine for a week and then went nuclear on my battery (literally got so hot that the stock battery bloated (yes I know that means the battery also went bad) It almost did the same thing to my extended as well. Fast-forward to yet another phone and this time battery as well, everything seems fine except for the giant scratch on the screen, I swear ti was in the same spot as the one from five months before. Then the next phone, got it, s-off'd it, working perfectly for two days except for pink buttons but **** it, and then I realized I've never made a call with it. Called my father and sure enough the damn speaker is broken, yes I tried on different ROMS and completely stock just to make sure, I know what a blown speaker sounds like. Now I'm on the ninth phone which seems okay for now but I'm still endlessly frustrated with the damn things. Plus I love MIUI. I just wish the build quality was better on the gnexus and I hate samsung's placement of ****ing buttons. It's like they expect you to have the hands of a 4 year old and be able to hit the awkward side button while it's in your hand.
I think everyone who leaves this phone just to get AOSP is crazy... Eventually it will come. In the meantime, there are lots of great roms to try out in the meantime. If you have other problems, I completely understand. But cmon.... Just for a rom?
dmeadows013 said:
I think everyone who leaves this phone just to get AOSP is crazy... Eventually it will come. In the meantime, there are lots of great roms to try out in the meantime. If you have other problems, I completely understand. But cmon.... Just for a rom?
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I agree with you on this man ... People can be crazy sometimes
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dmeadows013 said:
I think everyone who leaves this phone just to get AOSP is crazy... Eventually it will come. In the meantime, there are lots of great roms to try out in the meantime. If you have other problems, I completely understand. But cmon.... Just for a rom?
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I mean it's all about opinion. I could see me leaving a Samsung phone if I wanted sense more or aosp if it wasn't available.
But it sounds like you should give the Gnex a go OP. What's the worst that could happen? You just come back.
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blestsol said:
I mean it's all about opinion. I could see me leaving a Samsung phone if I wanted sense more or aosp if it wasn't available.
But it sounds like you should give the Gnex a go OP. What's the worst that could happen? You just come back.
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Yeah that was my thought, they would probably let me come back if I hate it.
dmeadows013 said:
I think everyone who leaves this phone just to get AOSP is crazy... Eventually it will come. In the meantime, there are lots of great roms to try out in the meantime. If you have other problems, I completely understand. But cmon.... Just for a rom?
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i agree completely. im not a sense fan either,but IMO this is still good harware and worth the wait. like you said,lots of great roms in the mean time. scotts dev edition is an awome "best of both worlds" rom with the ICS theme,no sense launcher or widgets,yet the "prettiness" of the stock menu and pulldown. im enjoying it alot.
it helps that i can run a pretty functional cm9 on my sensation while i wait
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Slacker101 said:
I just wish the build quality was better on the gnexus and I hate samsung's placement of ****ing buttons. It's like they expect you to have the hands of a 4 year old and be able to hit the awkward side button while it's in your hand.
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ha! well said. i couldnt get used to the button configuration for nothin. like i said,i wanted to love the gnex,it just wasnt happenin for me. i also dont like samsungs bootloader interface,it just wasnt as fun to mess with,for some reason.
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i agree completely. im not a sense fan either,but IMO this is still good harware and worth the wait. like you said,lots of great roms in the mean time. scotts dev edition is an awome "best of both worlds" rom with the ICS theme,no sense launcher or widgets,yet the "prettiness" of the stock menu and pulldown. im enjoying it alot.
it helps that i can run a pretty functional cm9 on my sensation while i wait
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ha! well said. i couldnt get used to the button configuration for nothin. like i said,i wanted to love the gnex,it just wasnt happenin for me. i also dont like samsungs bootloader interface,it just wasnt as fun to mess with,for some reason.
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Completely agree, their bootloader is WAY less fun. At least, if it's anything like the fascinate and the charge it consists of a down arrow with a yellow android that looks pretty while you use odin to flash everything since their bootloader is half-assed.
I also would like to say that I do love our devs, and this is not meant and is not me being frustrated with them, simply my luck with regards to getting a functioning device which has lead to a lot of frustration. Regardless of if I switch I still have another rezound that I have access to and can use whenever so I will still be active in this community... I am simply asking the opinions of people who have or have had both devices (IE Scotty). Hell I would take a shot at deving if I had the time, I have experience with linux and coding in Java and Lua. Anyway I do understand the frustration when people post things like the "HAHA I SOLD MY REZOUND *****ES" thread (my translation of the title) where they seem to be bragging/flaming rather than actually trying to consult the community.
I would like to say I don't particularly appreciate the assumptions that my devices could not have possibly needed to be replaced that many times legitimately. I just have had terrible luck with the replacements themselves, almost all have arrived defective if you read my explanation above. I have never bricked a phone and I'm not particularly fond of some of the stories where people go "ops I bricked it, lawls, hey Verizon my phone is dead send me a new one because I ****ed the damn thing up and enjoy committing fraud."
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Completely agree, their bootloader is WAY less fun. At least, if it's anything like the fascinate and the charge it consists of a down arrow with a yellow android that looks pretty while you use odin to flash everything since their bootloader is half-assed.
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its a little better than that. you can use fastboot to do a few things,but it was still pretty devoid of any user interface,unlike hboot. radios were flashed in recovery. you unlock it pretty much just like the rezound,with exception that you dont need a token just fastboot oem unlock anhd voila you have access to everything.

Switching from Rezound

Hey Guys,
Verizon is sending me a d inc to replace my messed up rezound
In your opinion, is this phone already outdated? or is it good enough to stick with for a while?
Thanks!
-David
You'll see
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davidetkin511 said:
Hey Guys,
Verizon is sending me a d inc to replace my messed up rezound
In your opinion, is this phone already outdated? or is it good enough to stick with for a while?
Thanks!
-David
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The Droid Incredible 4G LTE is a great phone. It's the perfect form factor at only 4 inches with a nice-sized and nice-looking display. 1GB of RAM is the current standard, which it has, and it supports microSD cards, which is no longer the standard but should still be. It runs Ice Cream Sandwich stock, and we're about to have S-OFF so we can install anything we want on it. I never lose connection to the network, and Wi-Fi works great at a decent range. There's nothing currently available that I would take over this phone.
davidetkin511 said:
Hey Guys,
Verizon is sending me a d inc to replace my messed up rezound
In your opinion, is this phone already outdated? or is it good enough to stick with for a while?
Thanks!
-David
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I would not say it is outdated. However, how much you like it will depend on what you want in a phone. I bought the Dinc4g on release day and with the exception for no root (yet), I am happy with it.
The rest of my family have the Rezound. This phone is smoother, faster and smaller. All plusses for me. I want the 4" screen. They like the Rezound's bigger screen, but their battery life is awful.
With root right around the corner, this phone promises to be even better.
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I would not say it is outdated. However, how much you like it will depend on what you want in a phone. I bought the Dinc4g on release day and with the exception for no root (yet), I am happy with it.
The rest of my family have the Rezound. This phone is smoother, faster and smaller. All plusses for me. I want the 4" screen. They like the Rezound's bigger screen, but their battery life is awful.
With root right around the corner, this phone promises to be even better.
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Thanks guys! I'm really excited for this phone!
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Thanks guys! I'm really excited for this phone!
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I Apologize for my last post there, bad night, yes it is a great phone, you.ll like it.
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Mine should be here tomorrow so that was a very fitting post. I'm coming from the Incredible 2.
I absolutely love mine. You'll be happy to get it!
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I went from a T-Bolt on VZW, to Sensation on TMOus and back to a DINC4 on VZW.
I was scared about speed and battery coming from those two phones.
Within a few days that was laid to rest.
Even with the factory bloat, it is faster and the battery lasts longer.
I too, coming from two prior 4.3 inch screen phones, like this form factor better than it's larger counterparts.
Very, very happy we made the switch.
Excited about S-Off, but this phone is a great device for me. I only want S-OFF to remove bloatware to be honest...and to get rid of the WiFi Nag.
Otherwise, out of the box this phone's a winner.
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I went from a T-Bolt on VZW, to Sensation on TMOus and back to a DINC4 on VZW.
I was scared about speed and battery coming from those two phones.
Within a few days that was laid to rest.
Even with the factory bloat, it is faster and the battery lasts longer.
I too, coming from two prior 4.3 inch screen phones, like this form factor better than it's larger counterparts.
Very, very happy we made the switch.
Excited about S-Off, but this phone is a great device for me. I only want S-OFF to remove bloatware to be honest...and to get rid of the WiFi Nag.
Otherwise, out of the box this phone's a winner.
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Agree with you. A whole lot of the smartphone community does not know what they are missing when it comes to the 4g3. It's a secret success. Root and s-off will be a nice bonus if it comes to pass.
todaysteve said:
Agree with you. A whole lot of the smartphone community does not know what they are missing when it comes to the 4g3. It's a secret success. Root and s-off will be a nice bonus if it comes to pass.
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When it comes to pass. It's coming.
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When it comes to pass. It's coming.
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I swear I was gonna write that when I read that post. Not if, when!
Lol! I agree with all the comments. Great phone. Battery life is ok. Aside from bloatware and wifi symbol in your face, the only other slightly down side is lacking range of cases but Otterbox and me became friends on this model so I can't complain. I do like to accessorize from time to time but what I have now will have to do.
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Nyobie said:
Lol! I agree with all the comments. Great phone. Battery life is ok. Aside from bloatware and wifi symbol in your face, the only other slightly down side is lacking range of cases but Otterbox and me became friends on this model so I can't complain. I do like to accessorize from time to time but what I have now will have to do.
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While you are waiting for s-off, you can disable the bloatware, if you feel so inclined.
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When it comes to pass. It's coming.
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Totally agree. It comes to pass. It's coming. All I meant was its not a guarantee to happen.
dajogejr said:
I went from a T-Bolt on VZW, to Sensation on TMOus and back to a DINC4 on VZW.
I was scared about speed and battery coming from those two phones.
Within a few days that was laid to rest.
Even with the factory bloat, it is faster and the battery lasts longer.
I too, coming from two prior 4.3 inch screen phones, like this form factor better than it's larger counterparts.
Very, very happy we made the switch.
Excited about S-Off, but this phone is a great device for me. I only want S-OFF to remove bloatware to be honest...and to get rid of the WiFi Nag.
Otherwise, out of the box this phone's a winner.
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You can disable almost all the bloat non-rooted....
Essentially its exactly like freezing in titanium backup except its a feature of stock android now. Very cool.
PhillyCheez said:
You can disable almost all the bloat non-rooted....
Essentially its exactly like freezing in titanium backup except its a feature of stock android now. Very cool.
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How Philly? I only see options to uninstall updates.
TIA
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How Philly? I only see options to uninstall updates.
TIA
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You have to uninstall updates first and then you can disable.
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How Philly? I only see options to uninstall updates.
TIA
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open app draw, settings/manage apps/select all/long press on app in question/select option to disable.
I too came from the Rezound as I sold mine, then bought this phone on my two year contract.
I love the size of this phone, it's perfect, IMO.
The INC2 is the same size 4', but this phone is more of a candy bar shape, much like the INC1, which I prefer.
As much as I feel it may be weird not being able to pull the battery when needed, I wish that this phone was made like the One Series phones, specifically the OneS, I love the build quality on the One S.
The Inc4 I use with no case and no screen protector and I don't feel nervous with it so it is built pretty nice, but IMO the INC2 is a bit more solid, especially the away the back door was on the INC2, on the INC4 it's pretty easy and squeaks a bit due to this. Nothing that was going to keep me from buying this phone though
I'll be on this phone for two years. I'll most likely end up using my brothers upgrade for the Incredible DIX and let him take my next upgrade. but I'll be on the Inc4 mainly even so as I couldn't use a 5' phone for a daily, it'll pretty much be my tablet, lmao.

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