Any word on whether or not HTC/Verizon will be sending out an OTA update containing sense 5 to our Dna?
I want sense 5, but I'm not looking to root since I think flashing roms contributed to some of the problems I had with my old phone.
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Cremacious said:
Any word on whether or not HTC/Verizon will be sending out an OTA update containing sense 5 to our Dna?
I want sense 5, but I'm not looking to root since I think flashing roms contributed to some of the problems I had with my old phone.
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Probably later in the year, like Q3 or Q4
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Probably later in the year, like Q3 or Q4
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Yep, if that fast , but even if they do it won't be as good as any of the sense 5 roms we currently have.
But @op, what issues do you think root causes. Having root only fixes problems( wakelock, no menu button, persistent notifications, etc), not causes them.
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If you have root or S-OFF someone who wanted to collect your personal information with physical access to the device could simply boot into recovery or fastboot and save a nandroid backup of the device to an external flash drive, then access the partitions on a computer. once you have s-off unless you fully encrypt the data partition, your data is unsecured.
Dani769 said:
If you have root or S-OFF someone who wanted to collect your personal information with physical access to the device could simply boot into recovery or fastboot and save a nandroid backup of the device to an external flash drive, then access the partitions on a computer. once you have s-off unless you fully encrypt the data partition, your data is unsecured.
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I could just take someones phone and root it and then do the same. If someone really wants your data there is always a way to get it.
Dani769 said:
If you have root or S-OFF someone who wanted to collect your personal information with physical access to the device could simply boot into recovery or fastboot and save a nandroid backup of the device to an external flash drive, then access the partitions on a computer. once you have s-off unless you fully encrypt the data partition, your data is unsecured.
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2 things.
1, unless you are a spy and have state secrets on your phone, why would anyone do that.
2, that wouldn't even work on my phone, and many others. My recovery doesn't have otg support and my phone has face unlock, so there would be no way for someone to get the nandroid off my phone.
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I could just take someones phone and root it and then do the same. If someone really wants your data there is always a way to get it.
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no you couldn't, HTC developed the unlock code to erase everything when you are going from a lock to an unlocked state.
This article says we're getting it in a few weeks.
http://www.pc-tablet.com/21710-htc-...droid-422-jelly-bean-sense-50-update-release/
Cremacious if you would like to further discuss root or anything, feel free to send me a PM. I understand your concern and I know where you're coming from, and I might have some info that could be useful. Would love to talk more through Gtalk or PM.
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You would think that with HTC not doing too well that they would try and up their reputation and push updates quickly as they could, or at least that what I would do to bring in customers if I ran a business. I'm pretty happy with the current version of Sense, but the new look of Sense 5 looks great to me. The design of the icons and UI is a big improvement.
The problem I had with my old phone is that the call quality dropped by a huge amount on anything other than stock. I tried to flash multiple radios to try and fix it and it didn't help. Roms also tended to lag for me a lot, which is probably something on my end, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to fix it.
Its going to be one HECK of a download 900+ MB.
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Its going to be one HECK of a download 900+ MB.
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ota's are patch roms generally....they only add whats new to the existing rom and firmware (even going from one version of android to another; in this case 4.1.1 to 4.2.2)
if you look at an otapackage you'll see a lot of "p" files that just the patch
id guess the ota will be somewhere in the range of 400-600 mbs, and it silently downloads in the background over a period of time as well....so its not like you are prompted to download and install the ota and then have to sit around for awhile
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ota's are patch roms generally....they only add whats new to the existing rom and firmware (even going from one version of android to another; in this case 4.1.1 to 4.2.2)
if you look at an otapackage you'll see a lot of "p" files that just the patch
id guess the ota will be somewhere in the range of 400-600 mbs, and it silently downloads in the background over a period of time as well....so its not like you are prompted to download and install the ota and then have to sit around for awhile
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Ya but we all know that as soon as the download is available most of us will be hitting the check for download button repeatedly.. but still a decent size download.
Cremacious said:
You would think that with HTC not doing too well that they would try and up their reputation and push updates quickly as they could, or at least that what I would do to bring in customers if I ran a business. I'm pretty happy with the current version of Sense, but the new look of Sense 5 looks great to me. The design of the icons and UI is a big improvement.
The problem I had with my old phone is that the call quality dropped by a huge amount on anything other than stock. I tried to flash multiple radios to try and fix it and it didn't help. Roms also tended to lag for me a lot, which is probably something on my end, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to fix it.
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It's not HTC's decision as to when ota's come out for our phone, it's Verizon's.
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I have a feeling it won't be an Ota but an update you need to be connected to htc sync to download. Like how Samsung pushed JB to the s2 through Kies
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Would anyone with a European XT910 on the new leaked ICS update be able to upload a system dump for developers with other XT910/XT912 devices? It would be greatly appreciated.
Sure, will do when I get home tonight, assuming no-one beats me to it.
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Ill try dumping it if I flash it again.
emm i'm sorry for the noob question
how to dump system files from unrooted phone?
my phone is updated from the hospital (motorola's service center :">)
[65.1.21.xt910.AsiaRetail.en.03]
and i cant do nandroid backup
(my phone is not rooted, razr bootstrap cant do anything)
thank you
I've pulled my /system. Nova Launcher is in there too, and a fair few apps were frozen when I did it, was too lazy to revert and I figure the people who'll benefit from this won't care anyway. Uploading now.
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emm i'm sorry for the noob question
how to dump system files from unrooted phone?
my phone is updated from the hospital (motorola's service center :">)
[65.1.21.xt910.AsiaRetail.en.03]
and i cant do nandroid backup
(my phone is not rooted, razr bootstrap cant do anything)
thank you
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Enable USB debugging, install Java and the Android SDK, then run "ADB pull /system" from the command line. Don't need root to do it. You'll need a bit of a crash course in using ADB if you haven't before, though - an hour or so trawling Google ought to do it.
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I've pulled my /system. Nova Launcher is in there too, and a fair few apps were frozen when I did it, was too lazy to revert and I figure the people who'll benefit from this won't care anyway. Uploading now.
Enable USB debugging, install Java and the Android SDK, then run "ADB pull /system" from the command line. Don't need root to do it. You'll need a bit of a crash course in using ADB if you haven't before, though - an hour or so trawling Google ought to do it.
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Shouldn't be in the system folder anyway, thats a data thing. Thank you onslaught
mattlgroff said:
Shouldn't be in the system folder anyway, thats a data thing. Thank you onslaught
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Nova Launcher needs to be in /system to access ICS widgets.
Took me a while to find a bitlocker that accepts files over 300MB. This should do it. http://www.uploading.to/8e75ajn5bcsd
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Nova Launcher needs to be in /system to access ICS widgets.
Took me a while to find a bitlocker that accepts files over 300MB. This should do it. http://www.uploading.to/8e75ajn5bcsd
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Thank you much
No trouble, always happy to do what little I can. Have been keeping a close eye on the Ic3RAZR dev work, hopefully there's some helpful libs & such in here.
The GSM ICS OTA is very alpha and highly unstable, even though everything 'works', it does so to varying degrees and tends to freeze and/or reboot frequently. From what I've read, dhacker & hashcode's progress on Ic3RAZR is already more stable.
Be nice to get more of the snazzy-looking CDMA ROMs ported to the GSM RAZR at some point.
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No trouble, always happy to do what little I can. Have been keeping a close eye on the Ic3RAZR dev work, hopefully there's some helpful libs & such in here.
The GSM ICS OTA is very alpha and highly unstable, even though everything 'works', it does so to varying degrees and tends to freeze and/or reboot frequently. From what I've read, dhacker & hashcode's progress on Ic3RAZR is already more stable.
Be nice to get more of the snazzy-looking CDMA ROMs ported to the GSM RAZR at some point.
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It is BETA
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It is BETA
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I guess Moto's definitions of usability differ from my own. I did find the shipped 2.3.5 en.EU firmware to be the buggiest officially released ROM I've ever used (What with all the overheating, mediaserver loops, and phone FC's when rebooting with wifi turned on), so there's precedent. Heh.
That said, I'm really excited about what a more stable and developed ICS upgrade will bring. Moto have certainly put more effort in than Samsung have been, there's heaps of new functionality in there rather than just being the same thing with a different version number. Adds to the ICS experience rather than detracting, for the most part.
And FINALLY, there's a stock 1x1 calendar widget that blends in with app icons.
Did you know that the Razr was supposed to be shipped with ICS and unlockable bootloader?
That's why moto has been so fast to adapt blur... In reality they weren't fast at all!
And well if I can give my two cents.. Huawei devices and some other unknown oems have already got ICS officially..... :/
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kholk said:
Did you know that the Razr was supposed to be shipped with ICS and unlockable bootloader?
That's why moto has been so fast to adapt blur... In reality they weren't fast at all!
And well if I can give my two cents.. Huawei devices and some other unknown oems have already got ICS officially..... :/
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Interesting! Suspected that might be the case, since the Gingerbread build is so similar to the Droid 3/Bionic, and most of the changes they've made have been very ICS-inspired - camera on the lockscreen, dismissable notifications, et cetera.
Really is a strange device, last minute decision to launch a GSM 'variant' and all.
When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
Finally be content.
Get bored and flash Viper ROM
Wonder why I didn't use this in the first place
Figure out how to revert the theme back to stock HTC Sense but keep the tweaks.
Live blissfully ever after.
Quickly get bored.
Wonder when Jellybean will come out for our phone, or when an awesome dev will make it.
Wait impatiently.
Watch as Key Lime Pie arrives and we still haven't gotten Jellybean.
Freak out!
Yeah, the first 10 will happen for sure, likely the next 4 will happen after a few weeks, and inevitably, when my flashing addiction gets too great, the next three items will follow. Hopefully we'll have several Jellybean ROM options before Key Lime Pie comes out, though.
Personally, I'll be happy just getting root, either through the bootloader unlock or S-OFF, as long as I can get the ROM customized the way I want it.
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
Finally be content.
Get bored and flash Viper ROM
Wonder why I didn't use this in the first place
Figure out how to revert the theme back to stock HTC Sense but keep the tweaks.
Live blissfully ever after.
Quickly get bored.
Wonder when Jellybean will come out for our phone, or when an awesome dev will make it.
Wait impatiently.
Watch as Key Lime Pie arrives and we still haven't gotten Jellybean.
Freak out!
Yeah, the first 10 will happen for sure, likely the next 4 will happen after a few weeks, and inevitably, when my flashing addiction gets too great, the next three items will follow. Hopefully we'll have several Jellybean ROM options before Key Lime Pie comes out, though.
Personally, I'll be happy just getting root, either through the bootloader unlock or S-OFF, as long as I can get the ROM customized the way I want it.
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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that about covers it.
You can knock out the root/recovery process with my tool here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758682
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that got an unlock code, flashed recover and rooted before everything got locked up. My phone hasn't had any updates pushed to it, my root still works and I'm a happy camper!
Initially the reason I rooted was just to get wireless-tether to work, as I relied on it heavily with my last few phones. I don't know how I managed to get the Inc 4G on an upgrade without loosing my unlimited data plan, as I understand most folks were forced onto a tiered plan due to the phone being released after the grandfather date for the unlimited plans. Stroke of luck #2!
At the moment, root has bought me wireless-tether, allowed me to actually yank some bloat instead of just disabling it and given me more flexibility when playing around with alternate launchers. What I'm really waiting for is the forthcoming ROMs so I can get a de-Sensed OS on this bad boy. I can only imagine how wicked fast it's gonna be without Sense and all the other crap. Plus ICS is damn sexy looking all on its own!
Wireless tether, button remap, custom recovery, root, and overclock
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I'm kinda confused Will your aio push root or will that have to wait for bootloader unlock?
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Senseless rom. A JB rom if one gets released. That's about it.
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[/COLOR]I'm kinda confused Will your aio push root or will that have to wait for bootloader unlock?
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We have to wait for bootloader unlock before it will work again.
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that got an unlock code, flashed recover and rooted before everything got locked up. My phone hasn't had any updates pushed to it, my root still works and I'm a happy camper!
Initially the reason I rooted was just to get wireless-tether to work, as I relied on it heavily with my last few phones. I don't know how I managed to get the Inc 4G on an upgrade without loosing my unlimited data plan, as I understand most folks were forced onto a tiered plan due to the phone being released after the grandfather date for the unlimited plans. Stroke of luck #2!
At the moment, root has bought me wireless-tether, allowed me to actually yank some bloat instead of just disabling it and given me more flexibility when playing around with alternate launchers. What I'm really waiting for is the forthcoming ROMs so I can get a de-Sensed OS on this bad boy. I can only imagine how wicked fast it's gonna be without Sense and all the other crap. Plus ICS is damn sexy looking all on its own!
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You know that hasoon2000 posted a senseless ROM already right?
IceDragon59 said:
When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
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I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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Sounds like a plan
junkmail9 said:
I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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The 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
Remove bloat, - DONE
install wireless tether - DONE
install 3-button remap, - pending
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data. - DONE
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - DONE
Custom tag on hboot, WiFi Nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part.
junkmail9 said:
the 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
remove bloat, - done
install wireless tether - done
install 3-button remap, - pending
install tib and backup all installed apps+data. - done
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - done
custom tag on hboot, wifi nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part. :d
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10-4 dolly knockers
junkmail9 said:
The 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
Remove bloat, - DONE
install wireless tether - DONE
install 3-button remap, - pending
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data. - DONE
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - DONE
Custom tag on hboot, WiFi Nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part.
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What are you using to remove Wi-Fi nag on roms besides viper that already have it removed?
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What are you using to remove Wi-Fi nag on roms besides viper that already have it removed?
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I modified the framework-htc-res.apk by removing the 4 pngs mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30679535&postcount=40
I wasn't entirely sure which version the files were downloadable in that post, so I just modified my own. It was really a joy: Actually being able to get to the files using Root Explorer, pulling them off of the phone to my PC, modifying the framework files, changing the filesystem to R/W, and then putting them back. I had nearly forgotten that simple pleasure.
Not seeing that stupid icon in the notification area has been so uplifting today. I swear I've turned on the display several times today just to not see it there.
The question is now what we going to do with s-off after this epically long stint without root and s-off. It's like the doors of willa wonkas factory being open for the first time, yes.
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I'd like to overclock once we have a kernel that can do so. I'd like to undervolt as well to squeeze a little extra juice out of this baby
I know we are supposed to have s-off to use the chainfire 3D app but does anyone know if this actually do anything that's a +1
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I know we are supposed to have s-off to use the chainfire 3D app but does anyone know if this actually do anything that's a +1
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You can use either Chainfire's SuperSU or ChainsDD's Superuser. Either should work fine. Unless ChainsDD has updated his Elite, the advantage to SuperSU is the checkbox to disable and hide Superuser. I cannot say if that option is a Pro only option because I have the paid versions for both. (note: you can have only one of them installed at a time)
Then again Superuser Elite has OVER 9000!!!
No the chainfire 3D app that deals with graphic
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It might, but note that the description says it isn't compatible with ICS.
Description said:
!! For Froyo and Gingerbread ONLY. NOT COMPATIBLE with Honeycomb/Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean !!
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It might, but note that the description says it isn't compatible with ICS.
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I tried already ended up on a soft brick
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How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
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How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
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is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
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is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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I would count that as "a reason to use it".
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
thanks for info
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Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
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I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
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I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
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What? It's the same as stock... but with the ability to remove bloat and add modifications. Also, you can add apps to multiwindow without root it just takes a lot more work.
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the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
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the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
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All updates are optional.
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All updates are optional.
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true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
My understanding is you can still update, because it's stock. Not sure if you would lose SU though.
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You can take a ota while rooted but you'll lose root. . If you deleted boat or modded certain things you could brick if you don't revert them back to stock... heres what my theory if you don't have specific reasons to root then you probably don't need to if you're going to be aware you can mess up your device if you don't follow instructions and have a basic understanding of what you're doing .... root alone doesn't give you any additional performance
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Hitman3984 said:
true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
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I've seen ota's automatically download and attempt install but the last few I've gotten had to be installed by the user
I'm sure we could find a ota block by then anyway
also you can trick the phone into thinking it took the update to stop getting the reminder by editing the build.prop
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]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Dumb Question
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
Droidneedzsence said:
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
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If it soft bricks/gets stuck in bootloop and you can get into odin download mode you can almost always flash back to stock to fix the issue I believe.
Absolutely no issues, I can now get around to backing up the bloatware with TI Backup and then uninstall that crap or delete it either way its going, going, gone. Root is the way.
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
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]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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Yes this feature was working prior to rooting my phone that's why this is a concern of mine
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Theres an app you can feeeze and not have to worry about update. Something 101 I believe.
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Excuse me SDM 1.0 ... someone wanna confirm this? I think droidstyle said it in another thread.
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
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The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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jimi_pooh said:
Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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That's what did the trick for me when I came back. Good luck
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Dr0!dFreek said:
I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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I tend to go back and forth doing the N4 conversion and back to At&t stock. I get this fail to encryption screen,some times after I LGNPST back to stock. Pressing the "reset phone" repeatedly never does anything for me. What i've been doing is when this happens is, I'll shut the phone down and press the Vol down and HOLD first and then hold the power button. It will bring you to some kind of factory recovery where it says "HARD RESET MODE" Just press the power button to confirm the reset and it essentially just wipes the phone and brings it back to stock.
Hope that helps!
Dr0!dFreek said:
The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
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Yes there are a couple of people working on aosp ROMs right now just give them a little more time
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I know some people are against the conversion as such, but I think in the long run, this will be the only benefit of this phone - I'm expecting LG to do its thing where they don't provide any updates once their newer phones come out.
And here comes the nexus4 conversion - we'll be able to advance our phones thanks to the actual updates for nexus4 that google and the community will provide. Probably we'll lose LTE at some point when the modems will no longer be compatible with newer android versions.
My previous phone, the captivate was in a similar scenario - slightly different from the international galaxy s, but the devs worked out a set of patches to be applied against the galaxy s roms to make them work on the captivate and the captivate has long lived since, becoming one of first phones to get cm10.1 nightlies and enjoying more than a few 4.2.1 roms. It's definitely slowing down, it's been more than 2 and half years since the phone launched and people have moved on to newer devices.
So if it wasn't for the nexus4 conversion, I wouldn't have jumped on the lgog for my upgrade - the phone shipped with ICS, might get a 4.1 update eventually, but I don't expect LG to follow up with further stock updates after 4.1.
I know there is speak of AOSP roms coming to the LGOG, and I'm really thankful for the all the devs who work bringing these, and hoping we'll even see official cm10.1/cm11 then probably we won't need the conversion at all, but if it doesn't happen, or devs give up on the lgog the conversion will be the only path to newest android.
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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This phone is already essentially a N4. We are working on methods of porting the nexus 4 kernel to our phone that do not require any modifications, so we will always be able to run anything the n4 can run anyway. Basically, there will be a longer wait because this is harder to do, but it will be better in the long run, as we fully understand what is going on.
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
There is now a fix for jelly bean rons after converting back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146816
[FIX][Re-stock after N4][E970] Camera Fix for JB !!!ALPHA!!!
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whiteguypl said:
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
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Of course both would need kernel changes to make everything work 100%. Either way, someone would need to fix things. Fixing the kernel to boot with full stock may take more work, but I would consider something that does not require modifying the non "normal" partitions of the phone to make work better than something that modifies the base bootloader of the phone.
whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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You're so right about the veil of secrecy!
C2fifield said:
While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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Who cares what team codefire thinks just keep doing what you are doing and thanks for everything can't wait to try something out. If you need more/any tester just let me know I have best buy insurance so not worried about bricking.
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sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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I'd like to just chime in and say 1) one person said you'd be an effin moron and he is far from the whole of team codefire. His words and actions don't represent the team as a whole, and his words were uncalled for. He could have said things in a nicer way. 2) The cm-10.1 you have relies on a testing version of freegee that was developed, but since abadonded. The reason it was abadonded was quickly we discovered that it bricked sprint radios. We had 4 people, including myself, loose radio. Thus this new freegee method was dropped.
We are instead working with 3.4 lge kernel source. I've also narrowed down what I believe the issue is on mako kernel not booting stock, to be the lge power management vs caf/mako power management. We'd probably have lge 3.4 working by now, but all of us, sk8 included jumped on using mako kernel once it was discovered about this slightly different freegee method. However like I said, after we bricked 4 radios on sprint, we didn't expand the testing any further and stopped.
I know the there's discussion about this phone being on is last legs, but I'm just joining the party. I finally am getting into a phone with a more modern ROM as i have been stuck in the gingerbread world for the last couple years. Since my phone had only a couple custom roms available and they're all based on gingerbread, this will be a welcome change. Even if i don't root and add a custom rom, it will be worlds Better.
I had to wait until better phones became more affordable since I'm on a prepaid plan (Ting, actually) and have to buy the phone outright without any subsidy from the carrier.
I should get the phone early next week. Any advice on what to do or not to do when i first get it? I'm reading up on the forums about the phone, and it looks like there are a TON of custom ROMs to pick from, if i choose to go that route.
Thanks, looking forward to participating in the discussion.
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bpaulien said:
I know the there's discussion about this phone being on is last legs, but I'm just joining the party. I finally am getting into a phone with a more modern ROM as i have been stuck in the gingerbread world for the last couple years. Since my phone had only a couple custom roms available and they're all based on gingerbread, this will be a welcome change. Even if i don't root and add a custom rom, it will be worlds Better.
I had to wait until better phones became more affordable since I'm on a prepaid plan (Ting, actually) and have to buy the phone outright without any subsidy from the carrier.
I should get the phone early next week. Any advice on what to do or not to do when i first get it? I'm reading up on the forums about the phone, and it looks like there are a TON of custom ROMs to pick from, if i choose to go that route.
Thanks, looking forward to participating in the discussion.
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The best advice I could give you is to keep doing what you've been doing, reading. Educate yourself as much as possible. Read the sticky threads in the Q&A section. If you decide to start flashing, learn how to use fastboot and ADB commands as this knowledge will be helpful if you run into problems down the line. Toolkits are simple but they don't provide the knowledge needed to troubleshoot your issues. Always search these forums and Google for any questions you might have first before you post a question. Being that this device has been around for a long time, pretty much any issues you might encounter, have already been addressed here. Congratulations on your new device and I trust you will enjoy it immensely.
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Hey, I was in pretty much exactly the same boat as you 2 weeks ago - just joined Ting in fact. I went straight to the official HTC 4.3 upgrade build, unlocked, rooted, and S-OFFed (ask if you don't understand any of that ) and am pretty happy with it actually. Very solid even though they haven't released an OTA. Don't just take my word for it of course, explore all the resources here, find what you like and have fun.
Official RUU to upgrade to HTC 4.3 build (must be run from Windows): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47503288
Thank you both for the replies. I understood most of what you said, except the concept of an RUU is new to me, but i gather that it's an update from HTC to a new version of their ROM. And I'm a little fuzzy on what S-OFF vs S-ON means, but I still have more reading to do. Including the stickies on q & a section.
I guess one question i do have for you is about the difference between the "new partition" and "old partition," and what is preferable or what is better about one over the other. And once you have everything set up rooted, etc. you don't have to hook it up to the computer in order to flash new ROMS, right?
I'll probably start out with the official RUU and then maybe try some custom ROMS if any seem worth checking out. Depends on how i like sense. I'm used to pretty much stock Android, so we'll see.
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bpaulien said:
Thank you both for the replies. I understood most of what you said, except the concept of an RUU is new to me, but i gather that it's an update from HTC to a new version of their ROM. And I'm a little fuzzy on what S-OFF vs S-ON means, but I still have more reading to do. Including the stickies on q & a section.
I guess one question i do have for you is about the difference between the "new partition" and "old partition," and what is preferable or what is better about one over the other. And once you have everything set up rooted, etc. you don't have to hook it up to the computer in order to flash new ROMS, right?
I'll probably start out with the official RUU and then maybe try some custom ROMS if any seem worth checking out. Depends on how i like sense. I'm used to pretty much stock Android, so we'll see.
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The new partition layout, in my opinion, is much better. It makes better use of the internal storage space. In short, it is how most other devices use it and how it should have been from the start. I almost never connect my phone to a PC any more. I have WiFi so I download ROMs and mods to my phone via the xda app and then install via TWRP.
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bpaulien said:
Thank you both for the replies. I understood most of what you said, except the concept of an RUU is new to me, but i gather that it's an update from HTC to a new version of their ROM. And I'm a little fuzzy on what S-OFF vs S-ON means, but I still have more reading to do. Including the stickies on q & a section.
I guess one question i do have for you is about the difference between the "new partition" and "old partition," and what is preferable or what is better about one over the other. And once you have everything set up rooted, etc. you don't have to hook it up to the computer in order to flash new ROMS, right?
I'll probably start out with the official RUU and then maybe try some custom ROMS if any seem worth checking out. Depends on how i like sense. I'm used to pretty much stock Android, so we'll see.
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For a good explanation of S-off & S-on, hit the top link in my sig. There is also a section explaining what a RUU is.
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I would actually advise against jumping directly on the 4.3 boat. Take a few days to experience Sense 4+ before jumping to Sense 5. Granted, Sense 5 is a completely new experience, so learning Sense 4 doesn't help the learning curve too much, but it's something to do.
Try to enjoy every aspect of your phone before jumping on the bandwagon along with everyone else. I always have said in the past that you need to experience different roms (and different Android versions in this case) to truly appreciate and understand what makes one rom better than the other. Read some more about roms & kernels. Try using a custom kernel that was built for Sense 4.
But finally, I absolutely advise you to upgrade to the new format using the 4.3 RUU. The difference is night and day. Many are rocking the stock rom, and the speed knocks the SOCKS off of Sense 4 stock, and even some custom Sense 4 roms! But you wouldn't know that unless you try them out first...just saying.
And one more thing...get S-Off, as everyone has suggested. Otherwise, you might run into a situation where you think that your phone is bricked while trying to flash am AOSP rom. Not a guarantee, but I'm just saying.
Thanks, I just got the phone last night and activated it on Ting today. I have already installed some of my essential apps but will wait until I get root tonight (hopefully) and restore apps from my old phone with titanium.
I will poke around and see what trouble I can get in with 4.1 and 4.2 before making the switch to the newest version.
I seem to be getting 3G data service fine. I don't know if I'm just not in a LTE service area, or if I have to do something special to get it with Ting.
I'll check out several of the ROMs and see what I like. I was pretty limited with my old phone so this could take me a while to familiarize myself with what's available.
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Welcome aboard! I'm also on Ting with an EVO 4G LTE running 4.3. I'll check back in case I have anything helpful to add. I'd definitely recommend the newer ROMs with new partition layout - there's more space for apps! With earlier ROMs I kept running into "out of space" messages when updating or installing apps.
I also did S-OFF so the bootloader is unsecured, meaning you can flash anything you want to any part of the phone (in my limited understanding). This way there's always a way out if you get into trouble flashing a ROM.
This phone rocks, and is one of the best out there in my opinion. It's also underrated, so you can pick up a decent one for about $100. I intend to get more than my money's worth out of this one, and use it as long as possible (mostly because I don't have extra money to be buying new devices all the time). My only wish is that the camera had better image quality.
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Welcome aboard! I'm also on Ting with an EVO 4G LTE running 4.3. I'll check back in case I have anything helpful to add. I'd definitely recommend the newer ROMs with new partition layout - there's more space for apps! With earlier ROMs I kept running into "out of space" messages when updating or installing apps.
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Just a quick question. Do you get LTE data on your phone with Ting? Not that i care that much but i think i should be in service area to get it, but it only shows 3G on the status bar. I usually just use WiFi so it's not that big of a deal. Just wondering.
I was able to successfully root and unlock the boot loader, and install TWRP recovery. Tonight i think I'll try my luck with getting S-OFF.
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bpaulien said:
Just a quick question. Do you get LTE data on your phone with Ting? Not that i care that much but i think i should be in service area to get it, but it only shows 3G on the status bar. I usually just use WiFi so it's not that big of a deal. Just wondering.
I was able to successfully root and unlock the boot loader, and install TWRP recovery. Tonight i think I'll try my luck with getting S-OFF.
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I do get LTE in my area but in some places I have to do a PRL update first. You might also check Settings, Mobile Data, and make sure network mode is LTE/CDMA.
RobAndroid said:
I do get LTE in my area but in some places I have to do a PRL update first. You might also check Settings, Mobile Data, and make sure network mode is LTE/CDMA.
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Cool, thanks. I just did a search on LTE service in my area, and it appears that they are actually in the process of upgrading our towers to LTE, right now, so that's probably why I'm not seeing it much. Hopefully in the next couple months it will become more prevalent. For now, I'm satisfied with 3G since as I said, I mostly use WiFi anyway. And I imagine I'd burn through data more with a faster connection, so it's not a huge deal to me. But thank you for confirming that I at least should be able to access it on Ting, once it's available on my towers.
bpaulien said:
Just a quick question. Do you get LTE data on your phone with Ting? Not that i care that much but i think i should be in service area to get it, but it only shows 3G on the status bar. I usually just use WiFi so it's not that big of a deal. Just wondering.
I was able to successfully root and unlock the boot loader, and install TWRP recovery. Tonight i think I'll try my luck with getting S-OFF.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk
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I certainly do; I was having issues with LTE at first but it turns out it's just a weak signal where I am (Santa Clara/San Jose). Sprint's upgrading here as well. Oh well, I usually leave data off anyway