Is there a significant software difference or what?
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The software and hardware is 100% identical except for different radios. Which I think is the reason for the separation.
I think you misunderstood .. They normally separate the forums when there is a significant hardware difference and flashing wrong versions rom could brick your device. AT&T one x and international one x is a great example. AT&T was Qualcomm and international was Tegra. Tegra roms brick Qualcomm phones... Separate forums needed!
I think they just jumped the gun on this split...probably combine them once everything is verified interchangeable. At lleast I would hope they would.
Agree. Best to keep them separate for now, but it looks like they can be combined due to the same models. Best to be sure tho.
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I really hope they do recombine them otherwise the dev support won't be there %100
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All the One devices that are GSM/LTE are M7_UL. All 3G only One devices are M7_U. Then you have Sprint and Verizon off in their own little world or something.
I successfully flashed Android Revolution HD. LTE works
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They should combine the HTC One forums. Hardware is totally 100% identical even for the radios chips. Except of the Asian version which they didn't even seperate at all. There are alot of other phones on the request thread that deserves a spot than this bloated AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint & International version of HTC One forums which is not even necessary at all. This would just reduce the chances of questions from other users being answered.
I believe this is the same hardware and when ever yall get s-off and supercid then they should combine the forums.
This is kinda like mt tmobile htc sensaton. Witch in that point with super cid all htc sensations were the same. And we didnt had to worry about flashing another sensation rom from international. but the thread is only one thread for all htc sensation in the world. There is no tmobile,canadan's,international or the one with beats they all were the same
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http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-developer-edition/
What's really happening here? Finally!!!
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$600+ it is kind of high also does it include the sprint version or only gsm
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I read about this earlier. Very cool that HTC is doing this!! Just wish it had the correct bands to be used on Sprint. Hopefully they aren't going to lock down all other phones super tight! That would really suck!!
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I see no reason to lock down the regular ones tighter than they already are.
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Ill be SUPER annoyed if sprint doesn't have one. Is this purchased through carrier or from HTC?
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I look at it like this they are trying to get in good with the developers and it's a nice way to do it (very expensive though) the thing that I'm wondering is how unlocked is the bootloader gonna be? Is it gonna be the same old thing that we get when we go to the dev unlock site or is it gonna be s-off? Don't know where to ask that but would like to know. Cool thing is they may be able to use the bootloader from this to unlock the other htc one phones since they are supposed to be similar.
p.s who says gorgeous these days?
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Didn't Motorola try this and no one ended up caring
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HTC also had Dev editions of the g1 and the hero.
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Oh Ok, that's cool. I didn't know this. I started with the first EVO. And since then I've read endless "HTC doesn't care about the development community" posts. So, from my perspective this is a big jump towards what "we" like.
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I'm buying it if it exists. Period. My only gripe about HTC partly is how they try to stop mods. If they stopped that, I'd never think twice about which OEM to buy from.
From my Evo LTE, yup.
introducing, locked boot loaders
Well hopefully they don't actually sell a locked bootloader... I'd be really disappointed if it was not s-off
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introducing, locked boot loaders
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Right. Why the hell is "Developer Edition" necessary?
The fact that it exists in post HTC-DEV unlocking times is concerning.
Hopefully its just paranoia but I don't like the designation.
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I'm gonna just call and see. Hopefully I get an answer
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Ok, sheer disappointment she said these are a tmobile unlocked phone, HTCdev unlocked bootloader, and sold by the carrier. I'm pretty sure its just a way for them to sell to tmobile clients based on that phone call. I don't really know more that though. Still its disappointing. No s-off according to that rep.
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Try and call again maybe different person, different answer
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Nope. Same answer. I didn't call, but same answer us the only answer. And for anyone thinking HTC (or anyone else) would release an S-off device that isn't nexus....seriously?! Seriously? Come on, now, wake up.
From my Evo LTE, yup.
Well, sometimes I live on pure hope. Then people tell me I'm wrong....
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The device most likely won't be S-Off and will only come with an unlocked bootloader. Truth is I really don't care about this because it's going to be GSM only, however, what I do care about is what this means for HTC. If this is a sign that they are going to start locking bootloaders, well, I'm not going to buy another HTC phone. I can imagine that HTC Dev takes a lot of work on HTC's part, and judging from the poor business decisions they've made in the past, they probably don't see a reason to support the developer community. The opportunity cost of the time spent developing the bootloader unlocking tools probably outweighs the extra profit they could incur by focusing on battling Samsung's propaganda machine. Releasing separate devices with unlocked bootloaders saves them time by not having to manage the unlocking process, and they can't really sell devices with already unlocked bootloaders, as that leaves the average user open to attacks. However, I have faith in the developers here at XDA, that they can overcome annoyances like locked bootloaders. Just look what happened to the Verizon Galaxy S3.:highfive:
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The device most likely won't be S-Off and will only come with an unlocked bootloader. Truth is I really don't care about this because it's going to be GSM only, however, what I do care about is what this means for HTC. If this is a sign that they are going to start locking bootloaders, well, I'm not going to buy another HTC phone. I can imagine that HTC Dev takes a lot of work on HTC's part, and judging from the poor business decisions they've made in the past, they probably don't see a reason to support the developer community. The opportunity cost of the time spent developing the bootloader unlocking tools probably outweighs the extra profit they could incur by focusing on battling Samsung's propaganda machine. Releasing separate devices with unlocked bootloaders saves them time by not having to manage the unlocking process, and they can't really sell devices with already unlocked bootloaders, as that leaves the average user open to attacks. However, I have faith in the developers here at XDA, that they can overcome annoyances like locked bootloaders. Just look what happened to the Verizon Galaxy S3.:highfive:
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The One has already been unlocked in the UK using HTCDEV. I assume the method works on all versions. ModaCo has done it and I assume working on S-off if he hasn't done it already.
Hi brothers at xda,
I've got a htc amaze with android 2.3.4. Was checking the phone and found that its made in china. The phone is from tmobile. Someone please guide whether htc amaze from tmobile made in china is original or not? Also wanted to know if htc amaze and htc amaze 4g are two different phones?
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The Ruby was manufactured in China by HTC for T-Mobile USA, who markets it as the Amaze or the Amaze 4G (just one device, sometimes the 4G appellation is ignored.)
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So it means that its a genuion phone?
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Yup...you can say that...
Deference is only Carriers...
And nothing else...
X715e called ad Asian Amaze...
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So it means that its a genuion phone?
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HTC is a Taiwanese company, of course it's made in China. Taiwan is part of China according to China and most of the world, but not America. Just because it's made in China doesn't mean it's not real, it's a great quality phone.
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Yup...you can say that...
Deference is only Carriers...
And nothing else...
X715e called ad Asian Amaze...
Hit thanks if I helped you !!!
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Well actually the Asian Amazes need S-Off since the firmware is different. So saying the difference is only Carriers is a bit inaccurate.
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HTC is a Taiwanese company, of course it's made in China. Taiwan is part of China according to China and most of the world, but not America. Just because it's made in China doesn't mean it's not real, it's a great quality phone.
Well actually the Asian Amazes need S-Off since the firmware is different. So saying the difference is only Carriers is a bit inaccurate.
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yes, but I found that when I had my HD2's the ones made in Taiwan were much more reliable than the ones made in China.
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yes, but I found that when I had my HD2's the ones made in Taiwan were much more reliable than the ones made in China.
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In general I found the same as you stated. But electronics made in China have indeed improved a lot than a few years ago. I still prefer Japan > Korea=Taiwan > China if given a choice, though.
Actually that was my dilemma when I had to choose between Amaze and One S. The T-Mobile One S was made in Taiwan with S4(much better CPU) while the Amaze(all made in China) has a better front camera, SD card, removable battery, and a supposedly better display(if you prefer LCD over AMOLED, this is subjective, though...) but a power hungry and slower S3... I've had the Amaze for 14 months but not sure if I made the right decision or not...
In summary, yes. HTC Amaze is made in China like most of the cell phones today. Even Samsung switched from made in Korea (Behold 2) to made in China. (TMO versions of S3 and S4)
UPDATE: I found my current HTC Amaze is made in Taiwan. What happened was that my original Amaze had a problem with dusts in the front camera. It was so bad that the image from the video camera gets quite fuzzy. Since it was still under warranty, I sent it to HTC service center for repair (cost me $10 via USPS). HTC support told me that would repair but not replace my phone. But in fact they replaced it with a new phone made in Taiwan. I only found out when my unlock code failed to work and then I saw in the back the phone is now made in Taiwan with different a serial number and IMEI.
So once I planned to root and got into XDA, I always read "INTERNATIONAL ONLY, AT&T ONLY ..ETC ONLY"
Why? Why does the recovery differ from INT and AT&T and sprint and all those other variables? Why can't we boot a rom for the INT to other variants and vice versa?
I know that it belongs to CID (i think?) But why? How is that CID set? And what's different between each CID and the other?
Thanks you guys
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Processor is not the same ...
Aren't they all Tegra 3? As far as I know it's the chipset and processor or am I mistaken?
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They're both Tegra 3, radio and partitioning are different (don't know about anything else)
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The international and AT&T version, have different radio hardware. The international one uses the Tegra 3 inbuilt radio hardware where as the AT&T version uses a quallcomm 4G radio chip. Because of the different hardware the devices require a different kernel, thats also why they need different recoveries, because a recovery is basically built from the kernel.
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The international and AT&T version, have different radio hardware. The international one uses the Tegra 3 inbuilt radio hardware where as the AT&T version uses a quallcomm 4G radio chip. Because of the different hardware the devices require a different kernel, thats also why they need different recoveries, because a recovery is basically built from the kernel.
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Quite useful for a new fish like me. Thank you so much for your explanation now I understand quite well
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AndroHero said:
The international and AT&T version, have different radio hardware. The international one uses the Tegra 3 inbuilt radio hardware where as the AT&T version uses a quallcomm 4G radio chip. Because of the different hardware the devices require a different kernel, thats also why they need different recoveries, because a recovery is basically built from the kernel.
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^THIS when i owned both devices i herp derped and flashed the wrong recovery I HAD TO RE-RUU
SO BECAREFUL
Anyone read this, or anything similar ? Have my doubts, but "who knows".
http://androidspin.com/2013/10/07/android-4-3-sense-5-coming-htc-evo-4g-lte-end-year/
Will be good
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Once out i think developers will be able to make it for International HOX+ as well. :victory:
Evo 4g has nothing more common with ONEX/+ than HTC ONE, and you cant make noting out of it as its Qualcomm phone not a Tegra..
I see the One is getting upgraded, but the general talk is that the One X won't as it is outside of the 18 month window.
With the One X+ having only been out for 12 months, do you think we'll see the upgrade?
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Can't speak for the international X+, but I can tell you for a fact, the AT&T X+ will not receive Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 5.5. We will only be getting 4.2.2 Jelly Bean with Sense 5 in January. I don't see us getting 4.3 either. The international X+ will see 4.3, if it hasn't got it already, and 4.4. Just don't hold your breath on the AT&T model. Your outlook is much brighter if you have the international model.
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Thanks for the reply. Will wait and see. Being in the UK, I do have the international variant!
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I want sense 5.5!!! HTC :-[
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I want sense 5.5!!! HTC :-[
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According to what I've read, most of the changes are to BlinkFeed, especially the ability to switch it off. I have that on the + already (not 5.5).
Considering the phone is just 12 months old, I'll be very frustrated if there isn't a further update to the os.
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Lets just say ,my next handset I will choose it wisely and carefully ,I love sense but the update thing ...
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Lets just say ,my next handset I will choose it wisely and carefully ,I love sense but the update thing ...
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Yeah, me too.
I don't expect unlimited updates. But the phone shouldn't be ignored after 1 year.
I hope they see Sense (no pun intended!) and bring the update to the plus.
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The thing is, our device was kind of niche one, because the sales were not that great. And I don't think HTC is in a position where it would make sense (financially) to invest in creating an update for our phone.
Plus, there's the problem of loyalty to HTC One X customers. The HTC One X is almost the same device, so updating the One X+ would mean they have to update the One X as well. In my opinion, you can separate the HOX from the HOX+, and viceversa. If one gets an update, so does the other. If not, then none of them do.
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The thing is, our device was kind of niche one, because the sales were not that great. And I don't think HTC is in a position where it would make sense (financially) to invest in creating an update for our phone.
Plus, there's the problem of loyalty to HTC One X customers. The HTC One X is almost the same device, so updating the One X+ would mean they have to update the One X as well. In my opinion, you can separate the HOX from the HOX+, and viceversa. If one gets an update, so does the other. If not, then none of them do.
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Yeah, I get that. If I had known that it would be forgotten about after 12 months, I wouldn't have been so brand loyal.
Just have to wait and see...
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Well I too consider myself to be brand loyal, but only because of the build quality of the phones. I've been f****d before by HTC, with the Desire Z. It too was left behind before its time.
It's frustrating. I know there are arguments that we 'shouldn't' expect major software upgrades once we've bought a phone, but I think with the money we spend on phones, you should expect some form of upkeep for a while.
Sorry to hear you've been messed about before! If it happens here, I reckon I'll jump to Samsung or Sony.
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I'm getting rather ticked off at HTC and AT&T. I've been an avid fan/user since an old HTC AT&T 8525 Windows phone. Every HTC phone I've had is always the only one that never gets updates. Other HTC AT&T phones get their updates, but mine don't. I have the worst luck in picking phones.
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Can't speak for the international X+, but I can tell you for a fact, the AT&T X+ will not receive Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 5.5. We will only be getting 4.2.2 Jelly Bean with Sense 5 in January. I don't see us getting 4.3 either. The international X+ will see 4.3, if it hasn't got it already, and 4.4. Just don't hold your breath on the AT&T model. Your outlook is much brighter if you have the international model.
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Do you have documentation of this? I couldn't find anything before on AT&T model getting updates.
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I'm getting rather ticked off at HTC and AT&T. I've been an avid fan/user since an old HTC AT&T 8525 Windows phone. Every HTC phone I've had is always the only one that never gets updates. Other HTC AT&T phones get their updates, but mine don't. I have the worst luck in picking phones.
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Can you tell me what your next phone is going to be? That way I can avoid it...
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