(Maybe this question needs to be somewhere else, if so, plz move it for me)
Wonder when these are coming to android...sure would be cooler than those 2d like black and white retro like ones....not that they're THAT ugly but still....im not on nokia anymore, i want a little color:beer:
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(Maybe this question needs to be somewhere else, if so, plz move it for me)
Wonder when these are coming to android...sure would be cooler than those 2d like black and white retro like ones....not that they're THAT ugly but still....im not on nokia anymore, i want a little color:beer:
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Then by all means make them. Google gives the basics and it is up to the OEM to make them, but as we can never relay on them it falls to people to do ti themselves.
Any good?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klncity1.emojikeyboard
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Im a pc programmer, not smartphone.
Really one can never avoid having annoying people post useless comments just for being bored with their lives...
All i want to know is if somebody ALREADY made modified fonts for coloured emojis on android and (if they would be so kind) where i can get them, not a lecture on programming...sure everybody needs stuff, but we can't do everything for ourselves can we?
Some people choose to do different things, if you're a smartphone developer then most probably you don't make your own cod but you rely on game devs to make it for you (how shameless and selfish right?) And if you want a cod mod like hell you gonna go and disassemble the whole game just to mod some stuf, but you ask OTHER experienced modders and they, likewise, might rely on you to do something for smartphones....
So, if i ask a question i dont want somebody telling me it is fordbidden to want something from others, cause that's how social animals(FYI: human beings, as aristotle described us), live their WHOLE lives...it's society b***ch -.-
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^^^ how not to address a senior moderator. ........wince.....cringe.. ouch!
Woo first I would watch how you speak to a mod. Next had you followed the rules you would have found the answer to your question.
And to answer your stupid comment. I at least try to do things myself before I ask for help and even then its not to have it done for me but to help me do it on my own.
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Any good?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klncity1.emojikeyboard
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Not really....perhaps i didnt explain myself well enough, so here's the situation:
-i HAVE emoji keyboard with coloured emoji buttons
-i CAN see emoji's cuz i got a modified font from the web, but they are blac and white and different from the iphone ones
What im looking for:
Another modified font (or fix, or mod, if you will) that will still allow me to see emojis, but the original ios looking ones (or at least some coloured ones).
So id like if someone shared with me their knowledge about this...
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Woo first I would watch how you speak to a mod. Next had you followed the rules you would have found the answer to your question.
And to answer your stupid comment. I at least try to so things myself before I ask for help and even then its not to have it done for me but to help me do it on my own.
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Dude...really...what is a mod? Someone that has been on the forum long enough to receive some priviledges as a recognized member of the forum, but not necessarily wiser than others. I apologize if i was too rough, i did not see that u were a "senior mod" as i am using the xda app, and had i seen it, my answer would probably had been the same or somewhat similar...
But, it turns out i DID follow the rules: i went looking for emojis, i got multiple "fixes" both on this forum and others, and i applied the best one: resulting in black and white emojis. They seem good enough, but i like the ios ones better, is it FORBIDDEN to ask questions on a questions thread?
is it FORBIDDEN to treat a moderator just like i would treat anybody else? U live in a democracy right?(i wouldnt want to be missing something here...)
But i dont want to have silly a fight (ive had thousands in life, and 10 times more on the web already), i just want to ask a questions on a questions thread, and get answers to THAT QUESTIONS on a question-and-answers thread (without having any mod go all crazy on me cuz hes senior).
Thank you for understanding....
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Not really....perhaps i didnt explain myself well enough, so here's the situation:
-i HAVE emoji keyboard with coloured emoji buttons
-i CAN see emoji's cuz i got a modified font from the web, but they are blac and white and different from the iphone ones
What im looking for:
Another modified font (or fix, or mod, if you will) that will still allow me to see emojis, but the original ios looking ones (or at least some coloured ones).
So id like if someone shared with me their knowledge about this...
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Your not gonna find anything done like the ios does. Most things here avoid everything IOS. So if you really want something that important to you then your gonna have to dig in and do it.
as for your comment above have a read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
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Your not gonna find anything done like the ios does. Most things here avoid everything IOS. So if you really want something that important to you then your gonna have to dig in and do it.
as for your comment above have a read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
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Thats too bad cuz the only thing ios got right was the look of its smartphone....but i dont have the time to do it myself, anyways i was expecting nobody knew anything so i wanted to put it here in case one lucky guy knew so he could tell me....
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Dude...really...what is a mod? Someone that has been on the forum long enough to receive some priviledges as a recognized member of the forum, but not necessarily wiser than others. I apologize if i was too rough, i did not see that u were a "senior mod" as i am using the xda app, and had i seen it, my answer would probably had been the same or somewhat similar...
But, it turns out i DID follow the rules: i went looking for emojis, i got multiple "fixes" both on this forum and others, and i applied the best one: resulting in black and white emojis. They seem good enough, but i like the ios ones better, is it FORBIDDEN to ask questions on a questions thread?
is it FORBIDDEN to treat a moderator just like i would treat anybody else? U live in a democracy right?(i wouldnt want to be missing something here...)
But i dont want to have silly a fight (ive had thousands in life, and 10 times more on the web already), i just want to ask a questions on a questions thread, and get answers to THAT QUESTIONS on a question-and-answers thread (without having any mod go all crazy on me cuz hes senior).
Thank you for understanding....
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Listen mate, moderators give up their valuable time to try and keep things orderly, not for some kind of power trip.
Being rude/insulting people is against the rules.
As a member of a community you are bound by individual responsibility and mutual aid.
If we didn't follow the guide lines this forum would fall to pieces.
Just trying to divert a bad situation here
That's my contribution to this forum
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Listen mate, moderators give up their valuable time to try and keep things orderly, not for some kind of power trip.
Being rude/insulting people is against the rules.
As a member of a community you are bound by individual responsibility and mutual aid.
If we didn't follow the guide lines this forum would fall to pieces.
Just trying to divert a bad situation here
That's my contribution to this forum
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Alright man i get what ure saying, but ive been a mod myself and i never treated people like they shouldnt ask...if i ever had something to tell them, i pmed them.
i know many things about a pc, and i help anybody who asks me stuff...from "how to start modding this/that" to "how to access my computer files". If the question is unresolved/hard to know for a normal person: i answer them.
If a question is stupid/already resolved multiple times/real easy to find on the web: i answer them first, then i tell them to look for easy stuff on the web cuz not everybody likes to waste their time answering questions that have already been answered and spread out to everyone.
I read the mods post, and i care to disagree with some stuff he wrote.
You see...xda may not be a democracy...it may be "just for developers"...but there are some flaws in this reasoning:
-xda, like any other site, is subject to the laws of democracy just of the country you live in. You may choose to establing an aggressive-moderation kind of "empire" here (which im not saying it is, nor that the senior moderator was aggressive, im just reasoning here) but on such a big scale as that of xda i hardly believe the founders of xda like to hold on to a site which is supposed to keep people(devs if you like the word) connected and at the same time they want to control peoples operations...i mean...developing is free itself and may cover any topic
-people arent born developers, knowledge isnt a fact, people learn stuff and then they become developers. You cant ban all developers from the site, cuz this site doesnt just deal with developing stuff, nor do developers grow on trees...
But if you want a site with people that know in detail how to build software for these devices or mod them in any way, then go ahead and filter the logins. Put up a questionnaire or something, ban every non developer you find....but seeing as this is clearly not this forums policy, obviously some statements the mod made in his speech were untrue, and peole liked only out of frustration. You see...the more is never the right....
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Alright man i get what ure saying, but ive been a mod myself and i never treated people like they shouldnt ask...if i ever had something to tell them, i pmed them.
i know many things about a pc, and i help anybody who asks me stuff...from "how to start modding this/that" to "how to access my computer files". If the question is unresolved/hard to know for a normal person: i answer them.
If a question is stupid/already resolved multiple times/real easy to find on the web: i answer them first, then i tell them to look for easy stuff on the web cuz not everybody likes to waste their time answering questions that have already been answered and spread out to everyone.
I read the mods post, and i care to disagree with some stuff he wrote.
You see...xda may not be a democracy...it may be "just for developers"...but there are some flaws in this reasoning:
-xda, like any other site, is subject to the laws of democracy just of the country you live in. You may choose to establing an aggressive-moderation kind of "empire" here (which im not saying it is, nor that the senior moderator was aggressive, im just reasoning here) but on such a big scale as that of xda i hardly believe the founders of xda like to hold on to a site which is supposed to keep people(devs if you like the word) connected and at the same time they want to control peoples operations...i mean...developing is free itself and may cover any topic
-people arent born developers, knowledge isnt a fact, people learn stuff and then they become developers. You cant ban all developers from the site, cuz this site doesnt just deal with developing stuff, nor do developers grow on trees...
But if you want a site with people that know in detail how to build software for these devices or mod them in any way, then go ahead and filter the logins. Put up a questionnaire or something, ban every non developer you find....but seeing as this is clearly not this forums policy, obviously some statements the mod made in his speech were untrue, and peole liked only out of frustration. You see...the more is never the right....
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Well if you looked at the people that thanked it instead of the number you will see that just about every mod agrees with it. We are working on a questionnaire for the Reg.
Now the rules here are simple and they are to be followed or people will be removed from the site. Plain and simple.
Now your question was answered. and this debate is pointless.
I have been more then understanding with your lack of respect and will end this here.
If you want something the way you want then it is up to you to make it happen. If you want help learning to do it then great. If not then good luck in your search.
More then understanding.....lack of respect....you guys really live in a glass castle.
I dont care if moderators thanked that, they probably did out of frustration or respect or they really believed it (amazingly). I believe i followed the rules and i did not offend anyone except for the "b***ch" part of my comment which was obviously intended as a joke not as a real insult.
If this forum was born for devs only, it isnt so anymore. I would really love to hear the opinion of the real moderators (the ones that own and pay for the servers and that mod the site and founded it, not the ones that help out those guy handle the forum).
Clear these posts or close the whole thread as it is no more useful filled with these comments, as no one will probably help out since a "senior mod superhero" has been unrighteously offended....please
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More then understanding.....lack of respect....you guys really live in a glass castle.
I dont care if moderators thanked that, they probably did out of frustration or respect or they really believed it (amazingly). I believe i followed the rules and i did not offend anyone except for the "b***ch" part of my comment which was obviously intended as a joke not as a real insult.
If this forum was born for devs only, it isnt so anymore. I would really love to hear the opinion of the real moderators (the ones that own and pay for the servers and that mod the site and founded it, not the ones that help out those guy handle the forum).
Clear these posts or close the whole thread as it is no more useful filled with these comments, as no one will probably help out since a "senior mod superhero" has been unrighteously offended....please
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Boy do you assume much. But as you asked for it. Thread closed by OP request. Good luck
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Yesterday, I got a notice on my Dell Streak says there is a Froyo 2.2.2 update available.
Should I do that? I have no complaints about my current 2.2 version.
Completely up to you. It's your phone after all.
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Completely up to you. It's your phone after all.
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Okaaaaay.... let me rephrase that.
What would be the advantages of updating from 2.2 to 2.2.2?
Disadvantages? Bugs?
Let me rephrase it then, plenty of threads about 351 and other new roms for you to rummage through. Better get cracking. I find 351 to be a bit buggy but others love it. People here won't spoon feed you so use what has been posted and make a decision.
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Okaaaaay.... let me rephrase that.
What would be the advantages of updating from 2.2 to 2.2.2?
Disadvantages? Bugs?
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Im with you, buddy. I am totally ok with 2.2 and see no need for 2.2.2 if its primary update is the stage home screens. I have Launcher Pro Plus and dont care about the Dell Stage screen. I also heard that oo.voo constantly runs in the background. I dont need another back end process to constantly manually stop, so that it sill autostart again. Some have said sound quality issue. There suppose to be enhanced email functions but I bought Enhanced Email from the developers site directly and it works fine. I am not sure what Gallery updates are but im ok with the current.
Hey William, if you come across other items, pro or con , let me know too. Thanks, bud.
Remember some time ago Google removed some 50 apps from the market because they had a malware payload? The main difference between 2.2 and 2.2.2 is that Google has closed the exploit which allowed that malware to work.
To me, that is a compelling enough reason to upgrade. However, if you don't, every so often Google may force feed you a malware removal tool. But, as said earlier, it's your choice as to whether you want to upgrade or not.
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People here won't spoon feed you so use what has been posted and make a decision.
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A bit of a smartazz aren't you?
What good is a forum where you can't ask questions without feeling stupid?
I don't do that on my www.CorvetteC3.com forum that I founded and run, that has been around longer than this one at 10 years. We start off new member telling them that there is no such thing as a stupid question and if it has been asked before, so what... ask away, the members here are friendly.
I've been here over a month now and getting tired of seeing this kind of attitude telling people to use search instead of answering the question or leaving a link. If that is the case, we really don't need a forum do we?
I've found on my forum after awhile, new members learn on their own to use search,
I wasn't talking about you, Rico or Strephon and thanks very much for your replies.
Hey no prob, William. I agree with you. I dont pay those sort of responses the time of day. You are correct, some reply as if its their personal site. Strep made a good point for updating when it comes to the Google malware update. Thanks for this sting.
About the only time I will actually tell someone to go search is when they ask the same question on multiple threads in the same forum, just because the threads happen to be related. To me, such behavior is childish.
So, I have done it myself. I'm not proud of it, but at the same time cannot change my frame of mind. I simply don't have patience for stupidity, and spamming the message boards simply because people aren't helping out as fast as the poster might want is stupid.
William, for the most part the people on this forum are decent. You and I seem to have managed to find that one person that rubs us the wrong way. In your case, it's someone being a smartass. In mine, it's someone providing a solution that actually ISN'T a solution. It almost makes me wish there was an ignore list feature on the site.
EDIT: Found the ignore list feature on the site. *LOL*
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
About the only time I will actually tell someone to go search is when they ask the same question on multiple threads in the same forum, just because the threads happen to be related. To me, such behavior is childish.
So, I have done it myself. I'm not proud of it, but at the same time cannot change my frame of mind. I simply don't have patience for stupidity, and spamming the message boards simply because people aren't helping out as fast as the poster might want is stupid.
William, for the most part the people on this forum are decent. You and I seem to have managed to find that one person that rubs us the wrong way. In your case, it's someone being a smartass. In mine, it's someone providing a solution that actually ISN'T a solution. It almost makes me wish there was an ignore list feature on the site.
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Ahhh... your right. There are more nice people here than not.
I gotta get a thicker skin. Maybe I used that up with patience for members on my forum. LOL
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A bit of a smartazz aren't you?
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I think it's rather odd that you have your own forum where you say people eventually learn to search yet here you didn't bother doing so. Did everything you learn on every other forum before, escape you right before coming here?
I bricked my phone last week yet I didn't make a thread asking what to do. I searched and searched til I exhausted all the solutions. I had dozens of threads to go through, you have a few at most. mine was a much more urgent matter than yours, but I knew it was covered over and over.
Maybe its cause I used to get flamed for not searching when I was younger but now when people do that I just see laziness and a "I'm too good to search" attitude.
Not saying thats whats happening, though I dont know you so I cant say.
Either way, apologies for offending you.
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I think it's rather odd that you have your own forum where you say people eventually learn to search yet here you didn't bother doing so. Did everything you learn on every other forum before, escape you right before coming here?
I bricked my phone last week yet I didn't make a thread asking what to do. I searched and searched til I exhausted all the solutions. I had dozens of threads to go through, you have a few at most. mine was a much more urgent matter than yours, but I knew it was covered over and over.
Maybe its cause I used to get flamed for not searching when I was younger but now when people do that I just see laziness and a "I'm too good to search" attitude.
Not saying thats whats happening, though I dont know you so I cant say.
Either way, apologies for offending you.
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Yes I did a search and couldn't find what I was looking for with my particular question.
Searching XDA for "2.2.2 difference" gets you this on the 3 or 4th page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050077&highlight=difference+2.2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13278734&postcount=20
Googling "2.2.2 difference" gets you pages worth of info.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-1-and-vs-android-2-2-2/
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/update-your-nexus-one-to-android-2-2-2/
Since 2.2.2 is a platform specific update and not device specific update, you didn't have to limit your search to just the streak section.
Thanks for the links. I did see some of those. In my post I was more after personal opinions of those who have went from 2.2 to 2.2.2. Wanted to see their thoughts on it.
As for the members on my Corvette forum, most of them are between 40-60 and many don't know how to search or are too lazy to, (retires you know).
I'm 58 and a bit lazy sometimes myself.
william58 said:
Thanks for the links. I did see some of those. In my post I was more after personal opinions of those who have went from 2.2 to 2.2.2. Wanted to see their thoughts on it.
As for the members on my Corvette forum, most of them are between 40-60 and many don't know how to search or are too lazy to, (retires you know).
I'm 58 and a bit lazy sometimes myself.
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I understand. My shop teacher used to be a C4 owner and last I saw him had a C5 ZO6. I used to go to shows with him a lot and yeah, most of the guys were old.....guys.
Plus searching for 5-10 minutes usually gets you more answers, quicker than checking in on your post/thread for hours/days anyway.
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Plus searching for 5-10 minutes usually gets you more answers, quicker than checking in on your post/thread for hours/days anyway.
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Actually, both are beneficial, a couple threads/posts were very helpful and searching here and googling found more answers. Combine them all, you get a lot of different views. I like as much info I can get.
The update isn't a true 2.2.2 update. I received/did it a couple of days ago. it's still 2.2, I was told that there must be some a typo or some such on the web page, but my phone still shows 2.2. FWIW the battery seems to last a bit longer, but the 3G reception doesn't seem quite as strong. YMMV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066310
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065434
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The update isn't a true 2.2.2 update. I received/did it a couple of days ago. it's still 2.2, I was told that there must be some a typo or some such on the web page, but my phone still shows 2.2. FWIW the battery seems to last a bit longer, but the 3G reception doesn't seem quite as strong. YMMV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066310
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065434
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Did you get notified of this via your streak?
Unfortunately this is not a thread providing the community a taste of the hot product from CM team.
This thread is to discuss why CM team don't want to 'play' with the xda community here that is eager to follow their guides and put Android on their TouchPads?
I expected much more involvement here. with lot's of technical discussions. Like in other forums of xda.
There was the crazy bounty period which was meant to cause this forum to be very lively but instead it introduced rivalry and now a 'cold war' between devs. Every attempt to get in on the dev just gets treated like spying.
They don't want to release a 60% done alpha to the community I'm guessing. Why are you posting a question in the development forum?
Reading is hard!!!!
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I am completely shocked that someone would NOT read the rules about posting. My day is ruined.
There are several places to find updates if you know how to use google...
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I am completely shocked that someone would NOT read the rules about posting. My day is ruined.
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This is the state of XDA nowadays.
I have a theory... back many years ago, when devices were more expensive (Palm Treo 650, anyone?), it was an "older" crowd (people with jobs that paid for the gadgets) who were able to afford buying the latest mobile devices, and were a little more mature when it came to posting on XDA and other forums in general. Fast forward a few years, and now smartphones and tablets are pretty ubiquitous overall, and many of them are in the hands of teenagers. I'm no math/stats geek, but I'm sure there can be a correlation shown between the average age of your typical smartphone user going down over time, and a rise of stupidity (and lack of maturity) on technical/development forums such as this one.
Just look at these gems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17889535&postcount=401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17961879&postcount=423
Rod has the patience of a saint to have to put up with The Stupid oozing out of that thread.
In fact, that's kind of my point/response to the OP. Can you really blame developers/dev teams for wanting to stay away from XDA? Just look at what people like Rod (rwhitby) have to deal with in those quoted posts above. I have a Vibrant, and you should see how bad the Vibrant subforum is with repeated quesions, lack of people searching first before posting, and basically wanting to have their hands held to do something instead of searching through a thread first, or even doing a simple google search. This isn't how the community used to be. But it's the state of XDA now, sadly. So don't blame CM for not wanting to get XDA involved in their alpha stuff. At this point, it would only hinder their development on the port.
My $0.02's worth and sole opinion.
I agree and I read that thread when I want a good laugh.....fing n00bs
I used to use "Let Me Google That For You" to illustrate how easy it is to find answers with just a SMIDGEN of intelligence. But I kept getting spanked by mods for snarkiness.
Here is my take on what they are really saying:
"I see all the stickys and warnings to search before asking, but I am too lazy and it just takes too much time and basic sense to find the answer.
So what I will do is say that I am in a hurry and apologize for asking my stupid question and they will answer it and all will be well."
Just let it die lol.....
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a good trick when searching is typing “cyanogenmod in touchpad site:forums.xda-developers.com” and it'll show you every thread in the website that contains those words... I know forum searching sucks big time, specially when you can't search using small words but this is the best way to search
You know guys, it takes a lot less effort to ignore these threads than to fill them with smart alec comments, insults and other such bile. Do the forums and the world in general a favour and just pass them by, save your efforts for those threads you deem more worthy of your attention, everyone including you will be so much happier.
Since this will be Android 2.3 (I think), will we be able to download the tablet apps, e.g. Facebook or Angry Birds HD (even though there is a webOS version), or will we be stuck with the phone versions stretched out?
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Since this will be Android 2.3 (I think), will we be able to download the tablet apps, e.g. Facebook or Angry Birds HD (even though there is a webOS version), or will we be stuck with the phone versions stretched out?
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Phone versions.
potsey2007 said:
Since this will be Android 2.3 (I think), will we be able to download the tablet apps, e.g. Facebook or Angry Birds HD (even though there is a webOS version), or will we be stuck with the phone versions stretched out?
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Phone versions.
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Honeycomb specific version (That leverage the fragments API) will not be accessible.
However, many (most?) apps are written to leverage the screen real estate avail.
I have a Viewsonic G-Tablet currently running a slightly modified CM7 and most of the games/apps look perfect on it. Not stretched out, etc. You will of course have exceptions, but for the most part my G-tab works flawlessly.
Facebook for tablets? Well if someone has,it please post the apk my iconia could use it
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BrianDigital said:
Facebook for tablets? Well if someone has,it please post the apk my iconia could use it
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The actual facebook app doesn't work well on my Transformer. It just stretches out and looks like crap. I use Friendcaster and it looks great and works really well too. Friend Me is another one that looks good on tablets as well.
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Honeycomb specific version (That leverage the fragments API) will not be accessible.
However, many (most?) apps are written to leverage the screen real estate avail.
I have a Viewsonic G-Tablet currently running a slightly modified CM7 and most of the games/apps look perfect on it. Not stretched out, etc. You will of course have exceptions, but for the most part my G-tab works flawlessly.
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Yea, I have a nook so I know how they scale. Most apps really won't be an issue as seen in the cm videos, then again the nooks only 7".
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You know guys, it takes a lot less effort to ignore these threads than to fill them with smart alec comments, insults and other such bile. Do the forums and the world in general a favour and just pass them by, save your efforts for those threads you deem more worthy of your attention, everyone including you will be so much happier.
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You're absolutely right Mom. I'll try to be a nicer person.
Seriously though, sometimes these threads get so damned dry I feel obliged to inject some humor.
No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
good point. Many think rom development is like washing a car..little bit of this little bit of that..dry off. First build the damn car, test to make sure it runs...then wash it..and poeple still tell you the car is dirty!!! sheesh...
I have never personally knocked someone's work, but one problem I see are ROM "chefs". Not only do they know nothing about Android's framework, but don't know any programming language enough to write their own code. They are taking bits and pieces of other peoples work and pasting in, and calling it theirs', and calling it new. Hence the term chef. That really doesn't add anything to the community, it is also unethical in my opinion.
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No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
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I have never personally knocked someone's work, but one problem I see are ROM "chefs". Not only do they know nothing about Android's framework, but don't know any programming language enough to write their own code. They are taking bits and pieces of other peoples work and pasting in, and calling it theirs', and calling it new. Hence the term chef. That really doesn't add anything to the community, it is also unethical in my opinion.
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This. Most of the XDA twelve year olds don't know that. The OP of their favorite colored ROM is a god like "developer" to them, when in reality they are just wizards at cut, copy, paste, zip, unzip, ASCII images, ****ty changelogs, etc...
I said most though, not all. And I agree, they all put hard work into it, so appreciate it or just stay quiet and move on.
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Agreed
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Couldn't agree more.
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Sad Panda said:
I have never personally knocked someone's work, but one problem I see are ROM "chefs". Not only do they know nothing about Android's framework, but don't know any programming language enough to write their own code. They are taking bits and pieces of other peoples work and pasting in, and calling it theirs', and calling it new. Hence the term chef. That really doesn't add anything to the community, it is also unethical in my opinion.
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I gotta agree with this. There's very little "development" happening, and a lot of "cooking" happening. We need to have two separate sections. One for actual home grown roms, and one for things made in a kitchen.
I don't eat copypasta
I'm okay with some of the cooks as they add another element to let users find more combinations of roms bc not all the ones hard dev'd have everything you want or sometimes you would like to add a certain customization from another rom.
Now as long as proper credit is given in the OP all is good. Android is open source and sharing moss is what its all about. I personally don't think you should even ask to use polar mode long as u give the proper credit to them to begin with.
The issue I have is when people cook a ROM and then give zero credit to anyone claiming they did everything.
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No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
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Well its hard to say good rom to someone if their rom is buggy. We have to post feedback and let them know if there's any bugs. Not to be harsh and say your rom sucks but to say this, this and this doesn't work.
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Well its hard to say good rom to someone if their rom is buggy. We have to post feedback and let them know if there's any bugs. Not to be harsh and say your rom sucks but to say this, this and this doesn't work.
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agree. this is another reason why chefs are kinda annoying. they can't really provide support on a rom because they didnt make it. and with all those things pasted in it's harder to find whats making the problem.
ummm... i haven't seen one thread on here created to specifically slam or complain about a rom.
BUT that being said, i still have seen a lot of complaining about other crap... it gets old. there is no purpose in starting a thread simply to complain. it contributes nothing to anybody else.
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I don't eat copypasta
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sgt. slaughter said:
I'm okay with some of the cooks as they add another element to let users find more combinations of roms bc not all the ones hard dev'd have everything you want or sometimes you would like to add a certain customization from another rom.
Now as long as proper credit is given in the OP all is good. Android is open source and sharing moss is what its all about. I personally don't think you should even ask to use polar mode long as u give the proper credit to them to begin with.
The issue I have is when people cook a ROM and then give zero credit to anyone claiming they did everything.
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Yeah, I agree. Open source is fantastic, and frankly as I see it nearly everything should be open source. But like you said just because we develop something and open the source to be read, used, improved, etc does not mean it is at all ok to call it yours, or take my license agreement, or source citing out so you can be the cool developer who took features from 5 roms to give people what they want. That is no different than stealing my patio furniture that is left out and I let other people sit in, ****ing bastards!
The thing with open source, if I can use an analogy to describe my thoughts and personal feelings:
Scientists will study and develop experiments that help prove something or develop a new technological process, or invent something new will keep things to themselves during the initial startup but soon after the entire community knows what they are working on, their journals are made public, their papers are published to be critiqued, reviewed, improved upon. Sources are always made to stay, and credit is given and kept through every part, and every future discovery. If we didn't have this technological advances would be slow as balls.
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agree. this is another reason why chefs are kinda annoying. they can't really provide support on a rom because they didnt make it. and with all those things pasted in it's harder to find whats making the problem.
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Another perfect point. How do you support and fix bugs if it isn't yours and have no idea what you are doing?
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ummm... i haven't seen one thread on here created to specifically slam or complain about a rom.
BUT that being said, i still have seen a lot of complaining about other crap... it gets old. there is no purpose in starting a thread simply to complain. it contributes nothing to anybody else.
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Thats what I Meant...
Not that people actually start a Thread to Bash a ROM, but they Might as Well after Reading there Posts! Lol...
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I don't eat copypasta
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No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
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Don't kid yourself. All it takes is roughly 20 minutes to set up and build your first ROM. It requires no skill, no college degree, and no unearthly talent. Virtually anyone could do it.
While it does take a bit more knowledge to port things over, the end result is always lackluster and very much lacks in the "I_need_a_working_stable_phone_where_all_things_included_with_it_actually_work_as_described" category. There's nothing more annoying than needing your phone at a particular time only to discover that one of a few things are happening:
-your phone has managed to lock up
-your phone is in the middle of a random reboot
-your phone has a missing feature that doesn't work because of the ROM you're using
I suppose all the ridiculous disclaimers (who's seriously going to go after a person for not having one?) try and warn you, but the cute taglines trump the disclaimer anyway.
There are few development projects going on. However, there are plenty of "let me try and frankenROM a bunch of crap together, throw it into a cute thread with a tagline indicating that it's a work in progress and that there are nightlies."
Judging by the number of replies these threads get, you can deduct the following:
-the average person on XDA doesn't have a smartphone for it to work properly.
-the average person on XDA enjoys interacting with other people on a thread even though it's mainly a bunch of back and forth replies that are limited to such wording as "yeah, ___ is broken for me too", " _insert_app_here doesn't work properly and fcs a lot"
I don't know about you, but I'm not the average XDA person and I most definitely enjoy having a working phone, so with that said--Stock ROM with modifications is all that's required to satisfy me.
To be honest, there isn't anything exciting going on aside from chad's kernel development.
This is not directed at any one person, and the true developers know that this isn't about them. Quite frankly, we need this type of work going on because it pushes the envelope and tells companies like HTC that we won't settle for less and know damn well that it's possible to push our phones further than they would have us think. Which is why sometimes, HTC gets caught with their pants down and are forced to give in. EVO 4G fps fix anyone? So I do appreciate all types of work that goes on here at XDA. But there will always be a small percentage that are in it for the internet fame (and they seem to get it quite frequently) and really bring nothing to the table except a bringing together of various other people's works.
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Don't kid yourself. All it takes is roughly 20 minutes to set up and build your first ROM. It requires no skill, no college degree, and no unearthly talent. Virtually anyone could do it.
While it does take a bit more knowledge to port things over, the end result is always lackluster and very much lacks in the "I_need_a_working_stable_phone_where_all_things_included_with_it_actually_work_as_described" category. There's nothing more annoying than needing your phone at a particular time only to discover that one of a few things are happening:
-your phone has managed to lock up
-your phone is in the middle of a random reboot
-your phone has a missing feature that doesn't work because of the ROM you're using
I suppose all the ridiculous disclaimers (who's seriously going to go after a person for not having one?) try and warn you, but the cute taglines trump the disclaimer anyway.
There are few development projects going on. However, there are plenty of "let me try and frankenROM a bunch of crap together, throw it into a cute thread with a tagline indicating that it's a work in progress and that there are nightlies."
Judging by the number of replies these threads get, you can deduct the following:
-the average person on XDA doesn't have a smartphone for it to work properly.
-the average person on XDA enjoys interacting with other people on a thread even though it's mainly a bunch of back and forth replies that are limited to such wording as "yeah, ___ is broken for me too", " _insert_app_here doesn't work properly and fcs a lot"
I don't know about you, but I'm not the average XDA person and I most definitely enjoy having a working phone, so with that said--Stock ROM with modifications is all that's required to satisfy me.
To be honest, there isn't anything exciting going on aside from chad's kernel development.
This is not directed at any one person, and the true developers know that this isn't about them. Quite frankly, we need this type of work going on because it pushes the envelope and tells companies like HTC that we won't settle for less and know damn well that it's possible to push our phones further than they would have us think. Which is why sometimes, HTC gets caught with their pants down and are forced to give in. EVO 4G fps fix anyone? So I do appreciate all types of work that goes on here at XDA. But there will always be a small percentage that are in it for the internet fame (and they seem to get it quite frequently) and really bring nothing to the table except a bringing together of various other people's works.
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Testify!!!!!
I just got my Nook Tablet 2 days ago and am very frustrated by the lack of instruction that I am finding on the internet about using this.
I know how to buy books and to change settings. I have my gmail set up but I cannot figure out the internet portion of this. For some reason the facebook login page was made to be my homepage and I have tried to change it many times....didn't work through settings. Also, while in facebook, I do not see "chat" or who is currently online. Am I doing something wrong? I did not see fb as an app in the app store.
I also have been looking at your lists of apps that everyone has added to their NT. Again, I am frustrated because I do not know what any of you are talking about. I am no techie!
Please help me out here or this thing is going back.
Joyce
If you go over to the B&N website and click on support for the Nook Tablet, you will get links to a dedicated 200 page user manual in pdf. Hopefully that might answer some of your questions.
I have read the manual and it does not give specifics for fb.
I don't think chat is an option with the mobile fb site. Also, the fb app is not available through the market on the nook. There is a fb apk file in the "must have apps" thread here, but not sure if it has chat either.
One thing Barnes and Noble has over Amazon is an actual store.
If you take your NT to the store, someone there should be able to help you set it up the way you want.
In your case specifically, I would recommend ignoring postings about side loading and rooting until you have quite a bit of experience using the stock Nook. You will avoid a lot of frustration that way.
The Alps listed in the "must have" are pretty easy to install and use. Just go to that page from the browser on your nt and click on the link(s). You'll see a little arrow in your notification area, click that and choose the package installer. At some point you'll need to check to OK installing non-market apps. Once you've installed the apps, you can get to them by seaching from the nooks search function. I would recommed installing the Amazon market and buying wave launcher. It will let you access up to 12 apps by swiping a finger, and you can also access all your apps through an app drawer that way too.
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dooball said:
I'm also new and I tried grabbing as much information as I could and everyone has been nothing but a******s to me.
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I think the OP has received several helpful replies to their problem.
As for the forum itself, I'm new and my experience has been that each of my polite inquiries have received responses, including help side-loading, rooting, and issues with default ringtones.
Perhaps insulting those who are in no hurry to get on Skype and talk to someone they've never met, is a questionable approach. Just a thought.
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Why do they have to meet me before they talk to me? I thought this was the internet?
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"Meet" is probably the wrong word. In this sense it would be seeing a number of posts from a user to get a feel for how they deal with others, how knowledgable they are, etc.
You have no doubt seen posts from people which gave you a strong desire to have no interaction with them at all. That kind of thing.
In the very short time I've been watching these forums I've already seen several people jump in with an extremely demanding attitude. Like somehow they're entitled to everyone's immediate help.
Where does that come from? This isn't a Barnes & Noble site. These people aren't paid by B&N. Coming in demanding help seems like the wrong tack to take. If someone is looking to rant about the device they'd probably be more successful going into a B&N store.
Similarly, if you want detailed help on formatting epubs then perhaps a reader-specific forum might be more useful. Something like the Calibre forums maybe. Yes, the Nook Tablet is a reader but the vast majority of the posts here gear towards to the Android tablet side of the device--not the e-reader side.
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Dude. EVERYONE I talk to ends up enjoying themselves.
Everyone claims they like people so much. Cell phones are flying off the shelves, Skype is more popular than ever--even Gmail has a BUILT IN PHONE--but we're afraid to call "strangers" or "random internet people" because they could be p*****s, so how can you convince me that you really like people when you're so afraid of them? Who are people calling? Who are you calling? People who already agree with you? Sounds like a boring life to me.
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Dude, maybe people don't want to take time out of their day to be your personal nook/android tutor when literally every single person has figured **** out themselves by either using the forum search function or using Google. If you used your time to do research instead of writing long rambling posts, you would already be way ahead of where you are now regarding knowledge. Seriously, everything you ever wanted to know about android is at your fingertips, you just need to put the work in yourself.
Please don't feed the troll.
Wow.
walk away.
Breathe.
Relax before you haave a heart attack.
You catch more flies with honey.
In regards to the op... he did seem to come into a technical forum to attemp to figure out very basic usage information. Read a few threads here and im sure youll pick up some things. I had to google a lot of acronyms and things last week to get up to speed. Kexec, cwm, etc. You'll pick it up. Just keep reading!
I think this has been one off the nicer forums on here, and and I'm proud to be a part of it.
In general augustusbot is 100% correct. This is a forum for modding not for basic usage, the problem though is in general there is no good manual for any android device. The fact that Barnes and Noble has physical stores is great, it is their job to show you how to use your device.
Dooballs....
Go buy an iPad. You will fit right in.
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Please don't feed the troll.
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Read the above...
I repeat, don't feed the trolls, they get cranky when they eat...
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Wow. This **** is epic. I subscribed.
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Read the above...
I repeat, don't feed the trolls, they get cranky when they eat...
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In spite of this, I'm compelled to reply.
jdubr said:
"Meet" is probably the wrong word. In this sense it would be seeing a number of posts from a user to get a feel for how they deal with others, how knowledgable they are, etc.
You have no doubt seen posts from people which gave you a strong desire to have no interaction with them at all. That kind of thing.
In the very short time I've been watching these forums I've already seen several people jump in with an extremely demanding attitude. Like somehow they're entitled to everyone's immediate help.
Where does that come from? This isn't a Barnes & Noble site. These people aren't paid by B&N. Coming in demanding help seems like the wrong tack to take. If someone is looking to rant about the device they'd probably be more successful going into a B&N store.
Similarly, if you want detailed help on formatting epubs then perhaps a reader-specific forum might be more useful. Something like the Calibre forums maybe. Yes, the Nook Tablet is a reader but the vast majority of the posts here gear towards to the Android tablet side of the device--not the e-reader side.
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jdubr is just being polite. Nobody wants to talk to you because you behave like a b**t on this forum. The internet is a place full of normal people, but it has its fair share of we****s/a*****es. And we know very little about a person other than what we can discern from their online behaviour. From your prior posts, I personally find you a "***** ******** ******". And I believe most other people would feel the same way. That's why no one wants to talk to you. Try cooling off, then going through your previous posts and looking at them objectively. See if this happens in real life, or in other forums/personal interactions.
It's well and good saying you are well-liked. But based on the evidence we see, it seems to be the opposite. Nobody owes you information, or help. Anything anyone provides here is a gift, yet you demand it and complain when you don't get it.
It's true that information on forums isn't always very organised. But that's just the way they function. There ARE efforts to make it neater. But sometimes the developers/etc are too busy trying to figure out higher level problems to neaten up their work for a beginner to follow. In any case, they don't owe it to you, me, or anyone else.
I'm sure the developers would be more than happy to have people put up tutorial videos for them. But you have to ask nicely, and put in your own effort as well. The effort taken to develop/program/code is immense. To make things fair, how about putting in some of your own effort rather than adding to their load by asking them to simplify/explain everything in a beginner friendly manner?
To the OP, Joyce, there are various FB chat programs on the Android Market, you can try them instead of the official FB app. Also, there is some information on the Android Development Subforum about changing your screen dpi to 160, which may allow you to see the normal FB app on market. But that aspect is not fully firmed up yet, so you might want to wait a week or two till they have it stable.
As for "must have" apps, if you are new to Android, try downloading some of them which sound good, and try them for yourself. What others find good, may not work well for you. And part of the fun is exploring the Market to find apps that fit your purposes well, even if they aren't particularly popular. Try reading the descriptions and reviews on the Market for a quick feel of how the app works.
THREAD CLOSED.
I feel the OP was answered and purpose of the thread satisfied. So, thread closed.
Everyone be noticed that.
-- you need to be polite towards others to be a part of this forum . And while you seek answers u need to be extra polite.
-- We donot ban anyone without a proper reason.
-- Please make sure that you follow the forum rules.
Do you all think the lads at Samsung who made the phone and do the updates read these S3 forums?
I'm pretty sure they do. It would make sense.
Yup they do , at least I know for SGS2 ...Even they answered on some things and matters...
They dont have unlocked bootloaders otb for no reason now
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They read a lot more than the average noob!
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A lot of companies read forums for ideas, one company that runs an online game I play pays people to browse fansites for feedback and ideas for new content. I imagine Samsung do the same.
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No they dont read the boards per se as their are far to many stupid or repetitive posts .
What Samsung do as do is keep a general eye on the modding scene .
jje
JJEgan said:
No they dont read the boards per se as their are far to many stupid or repetitive posts .
What Samsung do as do is keep a general eye on the modding scene .
jje
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I hope that's not true. There's no other way for them to get bug reports, or see what "features" are annoying users more than helping them.
Bugs in final firmware slipped through internal testing or else they wouldn't exist, and there's no bug tracking service unlike Android itself: you can only contact customer service (correct me if I'm wrong). They'd be very foolish not to read the boards, especially XDA.
However, the continuing presence of the cell standby bug is making me think they are perhaps just very foolish. The fix is so simple, I cannot imagine how they could have seen it and then still not implemented it.
I believe all manufacture do reading it, who knows some Dev work with them right.
If they are actually reading these stuff....then I just wanna tell them to make a replacement for the recent apps button....I mean long pressing the home button for recent apps sucks.....make a replacement plz.....we can do a bit faster multitasking with it...
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Its possible Samsung employees who misbehave are forced to read these boards as a punishment .
But honestly of what use are the multiple posts how do i root/unroot where is my stock rom just received an update and all the other like minded posts . Only section worth them reading is the Original Development .
jjue
JJEgan said:
Its possible Samsung employees who misbehave are forced to read these boards as a punishment .
But honestly of what use are the multiple posts how do i root/unroot where is my stock rom just received an update and all the other like minded posts . Only section worth them reading is the Original Development .
jjue
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ya, atleast they should stick their eyes to both the development sections. Im pretty sure most of the samsung rom developers will have their eyes on these forums especially xda, but implementing the idea they get from here and getting the approval for it is questionable
They certainly will have noticed the cm10 thread xd and surely it will have influence on their early release date even be earlier than expected
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Maybe not Samsung themselves but pr/marketing firms they hire to do market research.
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Well reading the boards is one thing, but actually taking the comments for real is an entirely different matter. Not all the people online are honest for starters, and also don't forget phoney users who are actually plain old fashioned industrial competition.
One last thing coz I worked for a manufacturer once, is that they have a special department for watching that kinda stuff. Problem is if they listen to what these guys have to say coz most of the time they are much more busy doing research trying to stay ahead of the market rather than fix old dogs. And those geeks who know about XDA already know how to root the damn phone like myself and get the most out of it anyhow, so why bother. And for the other losers who don't know anything about Android, they seriously never notice the difference. Trust me... I worked for a manufacturer and I have heard the complaints myself. They are much more worried about getting their call logs back than by the bugs in the OS code !!
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Any amount of Homebrew Apps and ideas end up on phones and consoles so it's obvious they reading forums to see what we want so other manufacturers aren't getting a head start on ideas.