I shelled out £640 for a developer edition when the 920s were exclusive to EE in the UK. Now I'm considering selling it, and I would like to know if there's any chance of it being worth any more than a regular 920, maybe due to the true pentaband thing?
If not, I guess I'll have to settle with it or accept the 300 odd depreciation, haha.
Tuoni said:
I shelled out £640 for a developer edition when the 920s were exclusive to EE in the UK. Now I'm considering selling it, and I would like to know if there's any chance of it being worth any more than a regular 920, maybe due to the true pentaband thing?
If not, I guess I'll have to settle with it or accept the 300 odd depreciation, haha.
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nope not really maybe less, the Canadian 920 has penta-band also but receives updates quicker
Hi
Development version you can install applications outside the market as well as with phones with wp 7.8 or lower?
Restriction shall by microsoft development version lumia 920?
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Development version you can install applications outside the market as well as with phones with wp 7.8 or lower?
Restriction shall by microsoft development version lumia 920?
Regards
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Over at Canadagsm.ca I found under Nokia they're selling the unlocked pentaband Lumia 920 for C$399 which isn't bad at all compared to what eBay sellers are asking. What I can't find is what exactly defines the Developer Edition? I am aware it is subsidy unlocked, has all the varying carrier radios in it but is that it? Currently as of this typing I own a HD2 and two Titans which are HSPL and what I really, really enjoy about those phones is my use of the Windows Phone 7.x SDK's Application Deployment which allows me to install programs outside the Marketplace which include Homebrew and 3rd party apps. I find answers that go both ways on this DE and would like to have a more definitive answer in regards to whether it too accepts the Windows Phone 8 SDK's Application Deployment...I realize it might not accept Homebrew apps but do we know what those restrictions are; thanks!
I own a developer edition and never had any problems.
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Hi all, is it possible to flash a branded Nokia Lumia 800 with generic unbranded firmware? if so how would i go about doing so, thanks for any help.
Adam.
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I'm afraid it's impossible for now...
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biggzy said:
Hi all, is it possible to flash a branded Nokia Lumia 800 with generic unbranded firmware? if so how would i go about doing so, thanks for any help.
Adam.
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wow biggzy lol long time buddy prodigits s60 eh lol how are ya buddy davec26 here now 35 ok well Nokia lumia is now a 2 bit encription it was 4 but now 2 so will be a long way off for unlock as for generic im wondering if phoneix will do it ??? Have U traced the generic files ? If not I can post generic firmware here but what to use to flash it I have no idea yet lol ufs maybe
Hi davec26, im great thanks, yourself? It has been a while lol, iv been an iPhone user for the past half a year, before that I had my last s60 device, the N8, no more s60 for me, so was waiting for nokias WP7 device, and now I love it, great device.
Not sure what will flash this, but im sure phoenix won't do it, its not like s60, im sure the WP7 gurus will find a way.
Adam.
What network are you on? Just wondering the level of branding on yours, on Three all there is is a 3 logo on boot.
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What network are you on? Just wondering the level of branding on yours, on Three all there is is a 3 logo on boot.
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Im on T-mobile, theres no boot logo but there is a tile color they have put on called t-magenta and a t-mobile bookmark, thats all i think.
Adam.
biggzy said:
Im on T-mobile, theres no boot logo but there is a tile color they have put on called t-magenta and a t-mobile bookmark, thats all i think.
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Fortunately Three didn't do anyof that, nokia blue is still present.
Another route instead of flashing is to be a developer. This is how I got rid of T-Mobile Branding on my Omnia 7 by flashing the Mango Beta. I assume they will release a Tango Beta in the same way to developers and you'll be able to flash that to your phone and have a generic rom.
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Fortunately Three didn't do anyof that, nokia blue is still present.
Another route instead of flashing is to be a developer. This is how I got rid of T-Mobile Branding on my Omnia 7 by flashing the Mango Beta. I assume they will release a Tango Beta in the same way to developers and you'll be able to flash that to your phone and have a generic rom.
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Thanks for the info, I still have the "Blue" theme unless there's 2 blue colors on the generic Lumis 800 ROM?
Adam.
brummiesteven said:
Fortunately Three didn't do anyof that, nokia blue is still present.
Another route instead of flashing is to be a developer. This is how I got rid of T-Mobile Branding on my Omnia 7 by flashing the Mango Beta. I assume they will release a Tango Beta in the same way to developers and you'll be able to flash that to your phone and have a generic rom.
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Yes I hope that to!!
I'm dev_unlock on my Lumia, but I still have this ****ing operator branding and I do not have received 7740 update yet!!
biggzy said:
Thanks for the info, I still have the "Blue" theme unless there's 2 blue colors on the generic Lumis 800 ROM?
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Yeah there's blue and Nokia Blue.
AFAIK there's room for 1 custom colour. Nokia have used that space for Nokia Blue but if networks want their colour on the phone the only option they have is to replace Nokia Blue, default colours can't be replaced and they can't add another one.
I suspect that Phoenix will do. At the moment there is no cracked Phoenix, which supports the RM-801, RM-803, RM-809, RM-819. You have to wait and see.
There's a Debranding app I think if you're chevron unlocked. Take a look at that.
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There is a discussion in the Lumia Development section about Debranding. There is a version 5 of Nokia Care Suite which is supposed to allow flashing of Lumia but for some reason the software isn't allowing us to...
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Nokia Care Suite is a poorer version of the Phoenix. I always used to use Phoenix to such things. It seems to me that the Nokia Care Suite, you can only upload the firmware for the phone Product Code. Otherwise, the program doesn't see the firmware.
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Nokia Care Suite is a poorer version of the Phoenix. I always used to use Phoenix to such things. It seems to me that the Nokia Care Suite, you can only upload the firmware for the phone Product Code. Otherwise, the program doesn't see the firmware.
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Okay fair enough.
Is this version working? (Phoenix Service Software 2011.46.002.47246 Cracked & Original)
No. This version of the Phoenix still doesn't support Nokia Lumia 710/800. We have to wait until January or February and then to be Phoenix, which supports Lumia
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RM-819 Nokia Lumia 800.1
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RM-809 Nokia Lumia 710.1
So I have the UK version which is the 801, it clearly states 900/1900/2100 UMTS bands. Just wondering if I can get a known firmware version with 850 band support and flash it on the UK version i have. could it possible allow the 850 band to work? Seeing how I dont think nokia would opt to manufacture two different hardware version of the Lumia 800
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So I have the UK version which is the 801, it clearly states 900/1900/2100 UMTS bands. Just wondering if I can get a known firmware version with 850 band support and flash it on the UK version i have. could it possible allow the 850 band to work? Seeing how I dont think nokia would opt to manufacture two different hardware version of the Lumia 800
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I'm pretty sure they are literally different hardware models so no I don't think you could flash another type of firmware.
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I'm pretty sure they are literally different hardware models so no I don't think you could flash another type of firmware.
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Just curious what is your reasoning for why you believe it's different hardware?
Nokia Lumia 920 http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
Nokia Lumia 820 http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
Syncronization
Windows computer companion application
Mac computer companion application
Exchange ActiveSync
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Calendar, Contacts, To-Dos via Outlook
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No SD-card for 920, however on the cheaper 820 there is a sd-card slot.
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From WMPoweruser:
Winfuture.de reports the Nokia Lumia 920 will be released in Germany in mid-October and will retail for 600 Euro ($758, £476).
The Austrian art magazine ‘Future Zone‘ reported that Nokia wants to deliver the Lumia 920 from the middle of October in Germany. They expect the handset to initially launch only in a few countries, much like the roll-out of the Nokia Lumia 800, before being available everywhere.
The handset will be introduced first in Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Russia, before becomes available in late October in Poland. The Scandinavian countries, Portugal and Spain will receive the handset a short time later.
The Nokia Lumia 820 will follow 2 weeks later in the same markets and will retail for around 450 Euro ($568, £357).
Of note is that the Samsung Galaxy S III 16 GB without LTE is 580 Euro, making the 32 GB LTE Nokia Lumia 920 very price competitive.
A cheaper version of the Lumia 920 without LTE will also be available.
Via Winfuture.de.
Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/european-noki...ced-and-dated/
check this too:http://www.windowsphonehub.com/
I really liked the look of the 820.
WAIT, WHAT ? No Skype integrated ??
nokia 920 ->
nokia 820->
920 has no microSD and you can't remove the battery
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WAIT, WHAT ? No Skype integrated ??
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They said it already during the Windows Phone Summit 2 months back. They won't be integrating Skype into the OS. They will allow any VoIP App to fully integrate itself with WP8's Dialer and allow it to run in the background (which includes Skype but won't force Skype on everyone's handset (which would lead to problems with carriers)).
Does anyone think the specs might be wrong? I was disappointed when the 920 didn't list AWS support, but then when I saw that the 820 also didn't list it I became a bit suspicious since many are saying the 820 is destined for TMobile US.
The Nokia 920 its too heavy and big for a 4.5" display, 130.3 x 70.8 x x10.7 mm and 185g.
It's a shame because the rest of the hardware (camera, screen, built materials, etc) and the nokia software, are great.
The Ativ S by comparation with a 4.8" display has 137.2 x 70.5 x 8.7 mm and 135g.
Sturdier shell, bigger camera compartment (you need room for the camera assembly to move for the optical stabilization to be able to work), the extra Hardware for wireless charging and due to the improved touch technology by Synaptics I guess they need more room for the screen as well (I'm pretty sure it's not on-cell technology as with Samsung's SuperAMOLED).
er , someone say lunch?
oh. launch.
yawn.
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The Nokia 920 its too heavy and big for a 4.5" display, 130.3 x 70.8 x x10.7 mm and 185g.
It's a shame because the rest of the hardware (camera, screen, built materials, etc) and the nokia software, are great.
The Ativ S by comparation with a 4.8" display has 137.2 x 70.5 x 8.7 mm and 135g.
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I like heavy phone LOL
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That 920 would of been cool if it only had the SD slot.... Oh, well, HTC's is on the 19th, maybe they will have something to blow away the 920. Over all besides the lack of the newest Windows Phone 8 standard missing (MicroSD), the 920 is a great phone
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The Nokia 920 its too heavy and big for a 4.5" display, 130.3 x 70.8 x x10.7 mm and 185g.
It's a shame because the rest of the hardware (camera, screen, built materials, etc) and the nokia software, are great.
The Ativ S by comparation with a 4.8" display has 137.2 x 70.5 x 8.7 mm and 135g.
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Some people are hard to please the L900 was 127.8 x 68.5 x 11.5 mm and 160 g.
Considering all the new tec in this phone it is only 25g heaver and slightly thinner.
Wish Nokia went with Android instead. Looks to be a decent handset but I won't go near it with it having Windows.
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Wish Nokia went with Android instead. Looks to be a decent handset but I won't go near it with it having Windows.
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try it out first? yeah I'm an android fan too, but mostly for the apps not the actual OS :S I'm growing a bit tired of the icons business... but what I didn't like about the windows phone was the app list either :S I preferred android's screen/icons over the app list.
Kind of want just the metro UI as homescreen and android's app drawer lol.
back to topic, yeah, try out the windows phone, I'll stop by store when it's out. Nothing to say I'll buy it, but this phone is one that I'll make a stop in to at least get hands on with
Prices are 450 Euro for Lumia 820 and 600 Euro for Lumia 920. Worth or not ?
Source for the pricing?
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Here from WMPoweruser:
Winfuture.de reports the Nokia Lumia 920 will be released in Germany in mid-October and will retail for 600 Euro ($758, £476).
The Austrian art magazine ‘Future Zone‘ reported that Nokia wants to deliver the Lumia 920 from the middle of October in Germany. They expect the handset to initially launch only in a few countries, much like the roll-out of the Nokia Lumia 800, before being available everywhere.
The handset will be introduced first in Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Russia, before becomes available in late October in Poland. The Scandinavian countries, Portugal and Spain will receive the handset a short time later.
The Nokia Lumia 820 will follow 2 weeks later in the same markets and will retail for around 450 Euro ($568, £357).
Of note is that the Samsung Galaxy S III 16 GB without LTE is 580 Euro, making the 32 GB LTE Nokia Lumia 920 very price competitive.
A cheaper version of the Lumia 920 without LTE will also be available.
Via Winfuture.de.
Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/european-nokia-lumia-920-priced-and-dated/
This phone will definitely be subsidized under contract with phone companies (speaking of US)
As for AT&T USA, I'm thinking this phone should sell for $100-$200.
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Of note is that the Samsung Galaxy S III 16 GB without LTE is 580 Euro, making the 32 GB LTE Nokia Lumia 920 very price competitive.
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"price competitive" (which requires signing a 2 year contract AND possible etf's) isn't good enough to entice folks already comfortable with their respective platforms.
the s3 has a very good reputation. the 920 has..... what?
I have an unlocked Rogers Nokia Lumia 920. Works great and love it! The bad news is that I dropped it and cracked the corner of the screen.
Looking to pick up ATT one for color choices - anyone knows if it supports AWS? Assuming I can eventually get it unlocked.
Eventually being the operative word.
You may want to reconsider unless you plan to use it with AT&T in the mean time, This is looking like another 6 month no exceptions lock.
Personally I just want the cyan Lumia. Damn you Nokia.
Why not buy the ATT version and swap the internals?
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I've seen the 900, 920, and 1020. Did I did I blow past it or is there not one? If not, can we set one up?
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I've seen the 900, 920, and 1020. Did I did I blow past it or is there not one? If not, can we set one up?
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like xda has ever cared about windows phone...i wish there was a Lumia 925 forum as well, however there is no Lumia 928 forum either. I think they expect us to just use the Lumia 920 forum... Xda is definitely one of the worst windows phone resources available.
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I've seen the 900, 920, and 1020. Did I did I blow past it or is there not one? If not, can we set one up?
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I ended up a while back having to create a thread in here because there was no separate forum. Even though I suspect because of its design it might well outsell both the 920 & the 1020.
ye
there must be a thread section for LUMIA 925
\which is better in all aspects than 920
and even more sold in 6 months
Besides the amoled screen it offers not much extras compared to the 920. It offers only half the storage capability and the price is higher than the 920. The build quality of the 920 is also sturdier and more compact imho.
This site used to be "window phone only" and it's now it's very much "android only". It's used to have a forum for every HTC window phone. It's sad to see the site convert 100% to android and not much about what it started out long ago.
I am from Norway and got my Gear S as a gift at the Samsung Developer Conference. It was locked to AT&T. I unlocked mine using cellunlocker.net. I received the network lock code less than an hour after submitting the order and it worked like a charm.
However, here in Norway we have GSM 900/1800 and the AT&T device is only GSM 850/1900 from what I can find on the net. Which matches my end result of not being able to connect to my network even after unlocking.
I should probably have thought of this before spending 29USD on an unlock code, but anything less than Quad-band on a phone just seems so '90s. As I do not have a compatible Samsung Phone either, the device is pretty much useless for me without GSM. I have Sony Z1 Compact (great), iPhone 5s (meh), Lumia 920 and 1020 (great), so buying a new phone is not an option at the moment.
Is the GSM-bands controlled by firmware or are there hardware differences between the US and European versions?
Does anybody know if it could be possible to load a European FW and get GSM 900/1800?
I'm fairly sure that's hardware controlled. Sorry
I also wish these were quadband.
You could try to sell yours on Ebay.com (I see they are currently going above suggested retail price), and buy one in Europe. They are, however, a bit more expensive there, EURO 390 in Germany including tax, for instance, but they also don't have SIM lock there.
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I am from Norway and got my Gear S as a gift at the Samsung Developer Conference. It was locked to AT&T. I unlocked mine using cellunlocker.net. I received the network lock code less than an hour after submitting the order and it worked like a charm.
However, here in Norway we have GSM 900/1800 and the AT&T device is only GSM 850/1900 from what I can find on the net. Which matches my end result of not being able to connect to my network even after unlocking.
I should probably have thought of this before spending 29USD on an unlock code, but anything less than Quad-band on a phone just seems so '90s. As I do not have a compatible Samsung Phone either, the device is pretty much useless for me without GSM. I have Sony Z1 Compact (great), iPhone 5s (meh), Lumia 920 and 1020 (great), so buying a new phone is not an option at the moment.
Is the GSM-bands controlled by firmware or are there hardware differences between the US and European versions?
Does anybody know if it could be possible to load a European FW and get GSM 900/1800?
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Have you tried contacting your local Samsung Developers on Google+? Samsung Developers US are very responsive on there.
I can't believe they didn't think about that!
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Have you tried contacting your local Samsung Developers on Google+? Samsung Developers US are very responsive on there.
I can't believe they didn't think about that!
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Yes, but no luck. Says there are differences in the hardware and that it cannot be changed in software.
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Yes, but no luck. Says there are differences in the hardware and that it cannot be changed in software.
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I mean contact them to find out if they can replace it with one that actually works where you live.