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Is this what everyone else is getting? I am running DCD's latest Rom and Radio.
I used to get two days, now i may get one. This is with no GPS running or any programs. Or making any calls.
Any advice?
Rephrase then.
How much battery life is everyone getting on the new Rom?
Are you sure your wi-fi switch is OFF?
quimbola said:
Is this what everyone else is getting? I am running DCD's latest Rom and Radio.
I used to get two days, now i may get one. This is with no GPS running or any programs. Or making any calls.
Any advice?
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"These are some factors that could cause your battery to drain fast"
The brightness of the screen is a factor. Try lowering it if possible.
Disable active sync, bluetooth, wifi, and beam when not needed.
Using the GPS drains the battery quick. ( results vary )
Push email also assists with battery drain.
Put your phone on standby when not in use.
Also the extensive use of PIE and Windows Media Player also assists with the drain of battery.
Last if you have poor signal strength this can also be a factor for battery drainage.
There are others out there but these are some that I encountered and learned live with.
There is a battery hack out there that can help you with your battery life. I don't know from the top of my head but search for a registry battery hack.
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"These are some factors that could cause your battery to drain fast"
The brightness of the screen is a factor. Try lowering it if possible.
Disable active sync, bluetooth, wifi, and beam when not needed.
Using the GPS drains the battery quick. ( results vary )
Push email also assists with battery drain.
Put your phone on standby when not in use.
Also the extensive use of PIE and Windows Media Player also assists with the drain of battery.
Last if you have poor signal strength this can also be a factor for battery drainage.
There are others out there but these are some that I encountered and learned live with.
There is a battery hack out there that can help you with your battery life. I don't know from the top of my head but search for a registry battery hack.
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all those are try but when you first got your phone did you charge it all the way before using it cuz messes up the battery i know it did for me
Follow up.
On my original Rom I could get 48 hours on a charge.
Today I got 8 hours. I did not use GPS, I am not using vibrate for calls. I only got two calls. And two emails.
Basically I am using the same settings as I had on the original Rom and getting about 24 hours less battery life.
I guess I'll switch back and report then.
Perhaps this might be it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
jyan_osu said:
Perhaps this might be it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
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DAMN.. that would explain alot.. I have a feeling its the same bug with the titans..
I dunno... I've been through the progression from 2.0.0 to 2.1.0 to 2.2.0 to 2.3.2 and I haven't seen anything like this.
I use the phone for about 10 minutes a day, so not much call time, but I have it checking 4 IMAP accounts every 15 minutes, do about an hour of web browsing, and use the GPS two to three times a day (basically any time I drive anywhere cuz it's fun!) and the most my battery has drained is down to 70% after about 16 hours.
Just to give an alternate view... battery life has been very good for me.
Dc_striker said:
all those are try but when you first got your phone did you charge it all the way before using it cuz messes up the battery i know it did for me
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No. When I first got my phone I installed on the apps I researched before buying the phone, configured my WiFi, and imported my playlists from Windows Media and then I charged my phone with the AC adapter.
I use alot of WiFi through out the day along with Stereo Bluetooth Headphones to listen to music one Windows Media Player and I have a very good battery life.
Follow up.
My email server locked up this morning and my activesync wouldn't sync.
BUT my battery life was back to it's old self, used 6% in 4 hours. Very Happy!
Email server is now working and Active synce is syncing.
When I check the activesync program it always says connected now. Is that normal? It doesn't seem like it used to say connected all of the time.
It does look like activesynce may be the problem. The setting are the same as they were before the flash.
Any info would be appreciated.
Update: In case anybody is following this.
I went back to stock ROM and Radio.
Battery behavior is back to Normal. I am going to reflash to GPS Rom and see if that was the problem.
jyan_osu said:
Perhaps this might be it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
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I an confirm this too. A few days ago I noticed excessive battery drain and reset my phone, and put it out of my mind. The only later ROM that I'd retained for days at a time has been 2.3.1 and today my battery level feel down by 50% in ~6 hours of standby. With the power on, with 46% remaining, the OS estimation for usage was 26 minutes. In 1% increments I could see it counting down....
I checked all running processes and nothing was out of the ordinary and nothing except that running task manager was bothering the CPU.
On a reset it appears fine.. Disconcerting. My phone didn't demonstrate this behaviour with the DCD 2.1 and previous ROMs. I don't know if to go back to 2.1 or 1.6.10. I'll see if this issue shows up again over the next few days.
That was the same problem I had.
Hopefully I'll dp some more testing this weekend.
After a reset the draining was repeating for me.. I decided to revert back to a working DCD 2.1 set-up and all appears fine again.
2.3.1 ROM was a kitchen build including the transcriber and no2chem's nueLED v1.5. That's all that I can think of being out of the ordinary.
I thought I am the only way with this problem. I thought it just a bad battery. Using DCD 2.31. Before 2.31, battery is about 90% on casual used when I left work. With 2.31, it becomes 95% after it pull from the power plug. Browser the web for like 10 minutes, it goes down to like 92%. By the time I finished work, and get back home around 7, it left with like 30%. That's on casual use.
Anyone tried reflashing to see if that helps the battery consumption?
It seems like this is not common, but effects a few of us.
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It seems like this is not common, but effects a few of us.
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I am also noticing the same effects, i was thinking bout reflashing my rom, i am currently running dcd's 2.3.2
Flashed back to stock and then back to 2.3.2
It looks like I am seeing the same battery drain again!! ARGH!!!
My battery is dropping like crazy too since the latest kitchen. When I first went to DCD's first WM 6.1 ROM I was blown away by the battery life. Same settings , same apps, different ROM and the battery life blows.
I decided to wait it out for a week and see if the new ROM comes out, if not I'm going back to the WM6.1 ROM that I first tried.
My wife is fully stock and I'm on the Ultimate KangBang Rom. Both have the ED01 Radio's and no 3G issues that we are aware of.
Since the update, we are both getting far worse battery life.
I have not touched the voltage controls in the rom.
Anyone have any ideas?
Could this be related to a 3G issue we simply are not seeing?
Should I (as she is not rooted) try to reset the battery stats after next full charge?
Should I call 228 to make sure everything is kosher on that end?
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Update:
I unplugged this morning at 7:30ish. 100% battery.
I started this thread at 10:30ish. 75% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 25%.
I hit both options in *228 at 10:30ish.
Its now 1:30ish. 71% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 4%.
I think the update, in general, just screws up your 3G/roaming etc. This was already known with other issues Verizon had over the last week or so. This seems, to me, as the most likely cause of battery drain.
I'll will come back later to say if anything changes. Also, need to see if wife ran the *228 options on her phone and will report back if findings are similar.
Hey superchunk,
I have a somewhat related post in the general section, and am finding low cell signal together with Google location services are giving me 4-8% batt loss per hr. See below. Also make sure to toggle airplane mode once per boot to workaround the 50% TWOS bug.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057628
Check what apps you have installed. After I did the full update to ED01, and then replaced the kernel with Imnuts' -100 undervolted kernel, I was getting great battery life until I installed the full Skype client. Even logging out so the program would quit, the battery started draining upwards of 10% per hour, even when the phone wasn't being used.
It seems Android in general, and 2.2 specifically, is pretty vulnerable to errant battery drains. Worst part is that it didn't stop after I uninstalled Skype, so I had to go through the whole process again - back to DL09 and then update.
We've always had google services on (before and after upgrade), so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Neither of use have Skype and no other apps have been installed anything new (don't use skype), but that doesn't mean something old has a new undesirable effect.
So far, I've ran the *228 options and will see if that helps. I'm thinking we simply haven't noticed 3G dropping and really needed the updates to programming and roaming.
Having a phone constantly searching for its best band will cause quicker than normal dead batteries. This is one of the reasons the Thunderbolt is getting so many negative marks for battery life, LTE just isn't there yet.
superchunkwii said:
We've always had google services on (before and after upgrade), so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Neither of use have Skype and no other apps have been installed anything new (don't use skype), but that doesn't mean something old has a new undesirable effect.
So far, I've ran the *228 options and will see if that helps. I'm thinking we simply haven't noticed 3G dropping and really needed the updates to programming and roaming.
Having a phone constantly searching for its best band will cause quicker than normal dead batteries. This is one of the reasons the Thunderbolt is getting so many negative marks for battery life, LTE just isn't there yet.
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Seems the Google location services battery drain was much less of an issue with 2.1.
Update:
I unplugged this morning at 7:30ish. 100% battery.
I started this thread at 10:30ish. 75% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 25%.
I hit both options in *228 at 10:30ish.
Its now 1:30ish. 71% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 4%.
I think the update, in general, just screws up your 3G/roaming etc. This was already known with other issues Verizon had over the last week or so. This seems, to me, as the most likely cause of battery drain.
I'll will come back later to say if anything changes. Also, need to see if wife ran the *228 options on her phone and will report back if findings are similar.
Have you charged to full and wiped bstats?
Hello, my wife and I both have Vibrants and she has been having battery draining issues for the past week or so. She obviously says she didn't do anything or put anything new on the device. I have installed the same ROM on both phones and other than apps/games, they are the same. We have Axura 2.3.1.2 and a battery meter mod installed.
I have tried swapping batteries between our phones, didn't fix the issue. Swapped back to original batteries.
Ran through the wipe battery stats, fully charge, wipe stats in recovery, fully drain till shuts down, charge completely without interruption. Still has the draining/shutting down issue
She mentioned having issue with updating her Facebook app, so I uninstalled that this morning and she continues to have her device drain very fast, shut down periodically, unable to restart without a battery pull.
Would reinstalling the rom help? what are some other options I can do before wiping clean and starting over in hopes that solves the problem?
If you need any other info, I will be glad to get it for you.
Thanks.
What kind of battery life are you getting? For instance, what's your idea of poor battery life? Also, what does your wife use the phone for?
You may want to simply try a different ROM. Axura hasn't been updated since March. The most recent Froyo ROMs are Toxic8 and Zendroid.
I am using Toxic8 with the Bali 1.2 kernel and Juice Defender Plus, ... and getting 30+hrs with music (mp3 and streaming) all day long, some surfing, a lot of XDA. Sleeps over night and JD+ kills radios from 12-6am so nothing is sending data btwn those times eating up battery.
I just rebooted today to make a back up JIC but my uptime was approaching 300hrs. Heard good things about Zendroid too but I'm on Toxic8 and like it quite a bit.
Is she watching vids (video player or Tubes) or listening to online music/shows all day? Is her Facebook/ G+/ Gmail set to auto-sync? She must be running something that you are not to get the off balanced battery power like you say.
had a similar problem on project v, turns out that sync was getting stuck on my picasa and wouldn't go any further, unchecked for it to sync and problem solved...
Recently I have installed CyanogenMod 10.1 and Hiro Kernel 6.25 to get the most out of my battery. I re installed the recovery tool (not AmoRa but the other one) and flashed like neccesary. It seems that Battery Monior is always telling me that my battery exceeds 100degrees F. According to the power saver thread below his phone runs at about 250mAh, well mine sometimes reaches up to 1000mAH and gets drain insanely fast. I dont know what seems to be it?
I'm
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HBOOT - 2.27
RADIO - 2.22
Latest firmware as of Aug 6, 2012
POWER SAVER THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39232517&postcount=1006
Please please help, my phone won't last at all away from a charger.
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For battery drain problem, I'd first check for something syncing.
Not just mail and social apps, but some widgets constantly run
just being on the screen, like Stocks, YouTube, and many others.
Also, make sure GPS is off. And if 4G is spotty in your area, leave it on
3G to avoid hunting between 3G and 4G, which uses up battery.
Hope you find what it is....
michaelbsheldon said:
For battery drain problem, I'd first check for something syncing.
Not just mail and social apps, but some widgets constantly run
just being on the screen, like Stocks, YouTube, and many others.
Also, make sure GPS is off. And if 4G is spotty in your area, leave it on
3G to avoid hunting between 3G and 4G, which uses up battery.
Hope you find what it is....
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that wasn't it at all, but thanks. It has something to do with the governors, kernel, or the way I installed something; because on a STOCK rom it works as it would work.
sikalex said:
Recently I have installed CyanogenMod 10.1 and Hiro Kernel 6.25 to get the most out of my battery. I re installed the recovery tool (not AmoRa but the other one) and flashed like neccesary. It seems that Battery Monior is always telling me that my battery exceeds 100degrees F. According to the power saver thread below his phone runs at about 250mAh, well mine sometimes reaches up to 1000mAH and gets drain insanely fast. I dont know what seems to be it?
I'm
S-Off
HBOOT - 2.27
RADIO - 2.22
Latest firmware as of Aug 6, 2012
POWER SAVER THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39232517&postcount=1006
Please please help, my phone won't last at all away from a charger.
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something was keeping your processor pegged.. you should pull the battery if its running that hot for that long a time. You can rupture the cells and cause real damage to the phone. the only time I've reach those temps/current levels was when I was trying to kill my battery for calibration.
That was Recording 1080P video, while streaming pandora over bluetooth, with google maps navigatoin running uploading photos and downloading my entire drobox at the same time
Something was REALLY wrong with that kernel/settings... I would stay far away from it
When I ran the last cm with hiro from 6/22 I believe my location never shut off, it was running for like 6 hours straight. Strangely I only lost like 25% battery over that time span, I figured it would've been dead. Haven't tried the latest hiro and cm combo yet
This one is a weird one...
About a week ago, I needed GPS to navigate out of a town - I waited and waited and didn't get even any satellite reception... It turned out that I found the way by myself and just closed the navigation. A few days later, same situation, no visible satellites at all... Didn't have time to reboot the phone, so I just closed the navigation and went my way.
Now, something weird is going on with my phone... Usually I get about 2 days of battery life - but since last charging, it looks i will get about 4 days and I have been using quite a few apps, browsed the net, made SIP phone calls, made normal phone calls... (more than normal usage for me anyway).
Is it just me or are those two things connected in any way? Can it be that GPS has crashed somehow and in the result, lowered the power consumption of the phone? Is it possible to turn off the GPS 'on demand' to extend battery life?
All other stuff is working like a charm...
I am using stock ROM (4.1.2, radio: I9100BULS1, build: JZO54K.I9100XWLSD)
Why do not you try installing a different rom see why.
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Why do not you try installing a different rom see why.
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Well, a colleague of mine has the same phone and has experimented with various ROMs - none gave him so much more battery life. It is not the question of which ROM is better in terms of battery life, but whether some weird (non-functional) state of GPS (I have it normally disabled almost all the time via drop-down menu) can cause the extended battery life. And if this is possible, can this be done on purpose?
The ROM stock give many problems, you're not in fact the only that the strikes. I advise you to try some Sammy Rom! JellySNAP v6 and, for example, a great ROM based-stock Sammy
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The ROM stock give many problems, you're not in fact the only that the strikes. I advise you to try some Sammy Rom! JellySNAP v6 and, for example, a great ROM based-stock Sammy
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I am bumping this topic to continue the discussion...
I am aware of other ROMs and have experimented with a lot of them on another phone. Due to extensive set of installed applications, loads of data and relatively stable stock ROM, I haven't really taken the time to do the transition.
So, I am not really looking for a solution to fix GPS, but the opposite way. I want to know if I can break GPS on next boot in order to obtain such long battery life... How many days of inactivity do you get with non-stock ROMs? At the moment, I am getting 5 days of light use WITH stock ROM (WiFi, Bluetooth, data disabled, only connected to mobile network to accept and make calls). I was never been able to do more than 3-4 days and my battery is now over 2 years old....
So, please, don't try to persuade me to install other ROMs by stating that they are better and more stable - list your battery lifes in case of light use or inactivity.... Do you get 5 days on 2 year old battery?
If you think breaking GPS is somehow responsible for greater battery life, you're going to end up rather disappointed. That concept defies logic given GPS only uses battery when you're actually using it. How is it possible for battery life to somehow magically double as a result of GPS being 'broken' ?
Thus far you've not provided one duplicable 'test' that other people can try to see if they get similar results, and all you've done is blabbered nonsense in a couple of posts. I mean, do you honestly think people here are going to delete a bunch of GPS system files to see if they can get some magical extension in battery life ? I know I'm not, because trying to put that stuff back when your silly theory doesn't work is a pain in the arse.
Did it ever occur to you that given the battery is two years old it's quite probably on its last legs & is very likely chemically unstable (this is why 'old' batteries swell up & sometimes even burst). This instability might be causing the extra battery life as the battery approaches the point where it's no longer useful. Put it this way, that's far more likely than busted GPS causing the extra battery life.
So, please don't try to persuade us that breaking GPS somehow doubles your battery life with a 2 yr old battery. Logic & almost 3 yrs worth of different people's experiences on here with this phone just don't support your ridiculous assertions.
That was a spicy reply, MistahBungle
Some facts:
- No system update was installed in the last month
- No application has been removed
- System hasn't been rebooted for a month or so
- Never got more than 2-3 days out of battery in idle
- Battery is 2 years old and is physically not damaged or swelled
- GPS isn't working (not even receiving or predicting a satellite on a clear day)
- System is rooted for a year or so
- Battery lasts 4 days now (instead of <2days a month ago)
- Connected to 3G network (no data connection)
I would try to reboot my phone, but I am afraid that it will all be over...
So, to stay with firm facts - how much battery life do you get with alternative ROMs in real life? Is 4 days (5-6 days with new battery) something usual?
That concept defies logic given GPS only uses battery when you're actually using it.
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Can you then explain me the difference between Cold and Warm GPS start? As far as I know, phone tries to keep as accurate GPS time as possible and a bunch of ephemerisis data in order to decode GPS data faster, next time you enable GPS. This defies logic that GPS is completely OFF when it is 'disabled' by GPS button in Android system.
I mean, do you honestly think people here are going to delete a bunch of GPS system files to see if they can get some magical extension in battery life ?
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No, I don't expect it to. I am looking for information whether anyone experienced anything similar.
Did it ever occur to you that given the battery is two years old it's quite probably on its last legs & is very likely chemically unstable (this is why 'old' batteries swell up & sometimes even burst). This instability might be causing the extra battery life as the battery approaches the point where it's no longer useful.
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In Lithium-powered batteries, I haven't come across the fact that battery capacity is increased with battery ageing and sweling up... On the contrary, internal resistance goes haywire and capacity drops, contributing to even more heat being spent internally by the battery and speeding up the process of degradation...
I may have not been cooking my own ROMs and writing drivers for phones, but I have quite extensive background in embedded systems and electronics. Battery life can not increase just by itself - there must be a reason... My lifestyle hasn't changed, my environment also didn't change, other phones at home didn't experience such battery life extensions... The only thing that I noticed is that the GPS is not working. I opened this topic in order to discuss whether that's the true cause or not.
So, based on '3 yrs worth of different people's experiences on here', what could be the cause for such prolonged battery life? How can I debug it by myself without rebooting the phone?