[Q] Should I buy a Motorola Droid Razr? - Motorola Droid RAZR

Hi guys
I currently have a SGSII t989 and I love it except for little things I noticed, one is this behaviour [1], I'm planning selling it to buy another cellphone with similar specs. What I'm looking for is:
- 1.2 GHz processor or more
- 1GB RAM
- TV output (via MHL or dedicated port)
- [Desireable] Removable battery (I know Droid Razr doesn't have it)
- MicroSD slot
- Screen range: 4.3" - 4.5"
- Good ROM's support
- Price range: US 250 - US 300
I'm considering buy one between Motorola Droid Razr, SGSII i777 (AT&T's) and HTC Rezound and want to know your thoughts being Droid Razr owners. I have some questions for you:
- Is this device bootloader locked? (I had a Defy and it had that issue)
- Is the non-removable battery an issue for you?
- Have you tried GTA Vice City? In my T989 it doesn't work apparently because of processor-chipset combination. I want to use the most of games that the device can support and this is one of my favorites games
- Will you recommend this phone?
- If you use CM 10.1, does HDMI out working?
Thanks in advance
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942

cristianpark said:
Hi guys
I currently have a SGSII t989 and I love it except for little things I noticed, one is this behaviour [1], I'm planning selling it to buy another cellphone with similar specs. What I'm looking for is:
- 1.2 GHz processor or more
- 1GB RAM
- TV output (via MHL or dedicated port)
- [Desireable] Removable battery (I know Droid Razr doesn't have it)
- MicroSD slot
- Screen range: 4.3" - 4.5"
- Good ROM's support
- Price range: US 250 - US 300
I'm considering buy one between Motorola Droid Razr, SGSII i777 (AT&T's) and HTC Rezound and want to know your thoughts being Droid Razr owners. I have some questions for you:
- Is this device bootloader locked? (I had a Defy and it had that issue)
- Is the non-removable battery an issue for you?
- Have you tried GTA Vice City? In my T989 it doesn't work apparently because of processor-chipset combination. I want to use the most of games that the device can support and this is one of my favorites games
- Will you recommend this phone?
- If you use CM 10.1, does HDMI out working?
Thanks in advance
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
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- BL was locked,but no need to worried about that.
- Not an issue actually,if you buy a RAZR MAXX,you can use for more than 4 days with D-WIZ ROM.
- Almost every game works.I tried GTA,Real Race,MASS EFFECT,Tample run,doodle jump,Angry brids,Fruit ninjia,they all works perfectly.
- It's a great phone.
- HDMI seems not working with CM10.1,but you can use both STOCK SYSTEM and CM10.1.No need to be worried.
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My english is bad....Or even worse than bad....

Hi 我顶你个肺隔膜,
i have even the opportunity to by an razr droid.
Actually i use my HD2 since 4 years nearly. There was a very huge dev community. And i got everything to configure.
Now my question:
Is there a rom without the motorola implemented stuff, like a pure android rom without modifications of motorola, which runs stable?
(On HD2 i had 100s roms but only some roms worked without problems and with all functions and features.)

Go for iut
cristianpark said:
Hi guys
I currently have a SGSII t989 and I love it except for little things I noticed, one is this behaviour [1], I'm planning selling it to buy another cellphone with similar specs. What I'm looking for is:
- 1.2 GHz processor or more
- 1GB RAM
- TV output (via MHL or dedicated port)
- [Desireable] Removable battery (I know Droid Razr doesn't have it)
- MicroSD slot
- Screen range: 4.3" - 4.5"
- Good ROM's support
- Price range: US 250 - US 300
I'm considering buy one between Motorola Droid Razr, SGSII i777 (AT&T's) and HTC Rezound and want to know your thoughts being Droid Razr owners. I have some questions for you:
- Is this device bootloader locked? (I had a Defy and it had that issue)
- Is the non-removable battery an issue for you?
- Have you tried GTA Vice City? In my T989 it doesn't work apparently because of processor-chipset combination. I want to use the most of games that the device can support and this is one of my favorites games
- Will you recommend this phone?
- If you use CM 10.1, does HDMI out working?
Thanks in advance
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
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For the specs you need. I'd suggest it a go..You can buy it and won't face a problem.
As for your questions,
Yes.! The BL is locked but that ain't an issue for me.
Non-removable battery doesn't cause any problems.
Yes.! And it works..so does most of the games.
Already answered.
CM 10.1 is in development state right now so many things might not work. You gotta wait for a stable build.

erbeuter said:
Hi 我顶你个肺隔膜,
i have even the opportunity to by an razr droid.
Actually i use my HD2 since 4 years nearly. There was a very huge dev community. And i got everything to configure.
Now my question:
Is there a rom without the motorola implemented stuff, like a pure android rom without modifications of motorola, which runs stable?
(On HD2 i had 100s roms but only some roms worked without problems and with all functions and features.)
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I think AOKP and CM10.1 or something based on that,they are stable and almost every features works great except HD video recording.And no motorola stuff as well.
My english is bad....Or even worse than bad....

我顶你个肺隔膜 said:
I think AOKP and CM10.1 or something based on that,they are stable and almost every features works great except HD video recording.And no motorola stuff as well.
My english is bad....Or even worse than bad....
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Thanks, i bought it as used today. At weekend i'll try a AOKP Version.

I would have upgraded to something newer or better at this point in the game.
-Sent from Marino's Maxx-

erbeuter said:
Thanks, i bought it as used today. At weekend i'll try a AOKP Version.
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You can try D-WIZ for daily use and AOKP with MPU OC for playing games.
My english is bad....Or even worse than bad....

Get the maxx version!

Hey Guys, not to thread-jack, but I've also been considering the Droid RAZR and, like OP, had some questions so I thought I'd just post them here.
I was wondering if there are any general hardware problems with the phone. For example, I used to have the T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant, and it had a hardware bug where the GPS basically never got a solid lock, I also had a Motorola Defy, and I heard some people had problems with the earpiece sound quality, although mine didn't have that problem. So I guess my question is, are there any flaws in the design of the phone that can't be fixed by software?
Also, how do AOSP-based ROMs run on it? I saw that CM10.1 has a couple bugs, of which the random reboots is the only one that worries me (though I'm sure the devs are hard at work on it!) but is there another version of CM, like CM10 (ICS) that runs better? Are the reboots actually often?
Finally, is anyone here using the XT910 on AT&T? if so, is it detected by AT&T's system as a smartphone? I'm using a Lumia 710 right now that doesn't get detected, so I'm not being forced into getting a data plan, and I'd like to stay that way .
Thanks a lot in advance!, and sorry for the noobish questions, I'm still relatively new to the Motorola scene.
PS: Is there any reason why I shouldn't consider the RAZR? I'm just trying to get the best bang-for-buck that works with AT&T 3G without requiring a data plan, so top-notch performance isn't really my goal.

phantomsniper773, your questions are more than welcome in this thread, it can help me too for choose my next cellphone (already sold the S2 Hercules). Right now I'm thinking more in HTC Rezound that in Razr because of few reviews and the battery thing, I think that eventually in some time (1-2 years) the battery become useless and there will be no replace (worst scenario) and I'll have to sell the phone for a very low price

cristianpark said:
phantomsniper773, your questions are more than welcome in this thread, it can help me too for choose my next cellphone (already sold the S2 Hercules). Right now I'm thinking more in HTC Rezound that in Razr because of few reviews and the battery thing, I think that eventually in some time (1-2 years) the battery become useless and there will be no replace (worst scenario) and I'll have to sell the phone for a very low price
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It's easy to replace the bettery.
My english is bad....Or even worse than bad....
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phantomsniper773 said:
Hey Guys, not to thread-jack, but I've also been considering the Droid RAZR and, like OP, had some questions so I thought I'd just post them here.
I was wondering if there are any general hardware problems with the phone. For example, I used to have the T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant, and it had a hardware bug where the GPS basically never got a solid lock, I also had a Motorola Defy, and I heard some people had problems with the earpiece sound quality, although mine didn't have that problem. So I guess my question is, are there any flaws in the design of the phone that can't be fixed by software?
Also, how do AOSP-based ROMs run on it? I saw that CM10.1 has a couple bugs, of which the random reboots is the only one that worries me (though I'm sure the devs are hard at work on it!) but is there another version of CM, like CM10 (ICS) that runs better? Are the reboots actually often?
Finally, is anyone here using the XT910 on AT&T? if so, is it detected by AT&T's system as a smartphone? I'm using a Lumia 710 right now that doesn't get detected, so I'm not being forced into getting a data plan, and I'd like to stay that way .
Thanks a lot in advance!, and sorry for the noobish questions, I'm still relatively new to the Motorola scene.
PS: Is there any reason why I shouldn't consider the RAZR? I'm just trying to get the best bang-for-buck that works with AT&T 3G without requiring a data plan, so top-notch performance isn't really my goal.
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NO problems so far.
My english is bad....Or even worse than bad....

cristianpark said:
phantomsniper773, your questions are more than welcome in this thread, it can help me too for choose my next cellphone (already sold the S2 Hercules). Right now I'm thinking more in HTC Rezound that in Razr because of few reviews and the battery thing, I think that eventually in some time (1-2 years) the battery become useless and there will be no replace (worst scenario) and I'll have to sell the phone for a very low price
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Ah, well I can't speak for the Rezound myself, but a friend of mine had it and hated it (he exchanged it for a Galaxy Nexus). He said it had really choppy performance and felt too bloated, even with a Custom Sense-based ROM. Of course, this was before they had S-OFF and AOSP ROMs, so I'm sure a lot has changed since then. I just thought I'd mention it.

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[Q] To buy or not to buy?

Hi guys.
I found today at local retailer Atrix with Laptop dock at a price of 370€.
http://www.electroworld.sk/product/...ily/MOTATRIXLAP/motorola-atrix-mobil-lap-dock
I have a HTC Desire Z for almost a year now and would like to upgrade.
Is this a good choice? It's a better hw, I pretty love the webtop idea.
It's not Asus PadPhone (I will miss a tablet possibility), but I will get instead a laptop and hdmi+bt keyboard+touchpad comfort.
My questions to the Atrix community are:
1) is it possible to get HDMI + bluetooth keyboard with touchpad working without any hacks? Just out of the box?
2) what are the news about ICS upgrade? I have seen som official motorola page that said it's in "evaluation", but the US version has a plan for Q2(3?) Also some webtop 3.0 video is on youtube (think from RAZR)
3) are there any glitches that I should be aware before buying? What makes you feel so bad, you would not buy it now?
4) any other useful user experiences
Thanks a lot.
I dont know all the answers, but from my experience:
1.- Works on ICS betas, have never tried it with the GB based ROMS
2.- There is a good chance the official ICS will be out in the next 2-3 months from Moto. The video is from a Razr ICS leak showing that it essentially is done away with Webtop as it was, and now runs ICS full screen.
3.- I've had the device for 3-4 months now I guess, coming off a I4. I have been playing with Android OS since the nook color got hacked to run it, and run it on a HP Touchpad as well as the nook color and now my Atrix. My only caveat with the Atrix is I really dislike the power button location. That said, I just setup to use my volume rocker to wake the device, and so I rarely hit the power button at all anymore.
4.- Current ICS betas are all quite nice, but the things that dont work can be irritating. The main issue for myself was browser rotation and video camera support being slow/inconsistent. I have used Neutrino ROM and stock CM7 and liked them both. I prefer Neutrino these days because I like a clean minimalistic OS, but your mileage may vary there. That said once ICS is out in force and drivers are updated, I will be hauling ass to ICS as I prefer it a LOT more than GB.
sorgo said:
Hi guys.
1) is it possible to get HDMI + bluetooth keyboard with touchpad working without any hacks? Just out of the box?
2) what are the news about ICS upgrade? I have seen som official motorola page that said it's in "evaluation", but the US version has a plan for Q2(3?) Also some webtop 3.0 video is on youtube (think from RAZR)
3) are there any glitches that I should be aware before buying? What makes you feel so bad, you would not buy it now?
4) any other useful user experiences
Thanks a lot.
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Use unlocked Atrix 4G from canada in india
(Sorry to hijack the thread. I need to decide very quickly and cant start a new thread as i'm a new member)
Hi All,
I'm planning to buy a unlocked Atrix 4G from canada and use it in India.
(my cousin will be coming from canada in few days)
I got the online deal from newegg.ca at $360. (still a new member so cant paste link here)
Here are few questions I have:
1. I'm pretty sure it is a good deal, but can someone confirm if its worth buying at apprx $360 ?
2. Apart from no radio, does it have any other major cons that I should be aware of?
3. I love to flash/root my phones for complete customizations, i've seen a lot of really cool custom roms in the Atrix 4G forum here. But in some forums I read the bootloader is locked for some phones. my question is, is already unlocked for a unlocked phone? if not, is it easily unlockable?
4. (Dumb question at last ) Will there be official ICS update for Atrix 4G? I dont plan on using the official one, but I hope there will be enough awesome custom roms based on official one.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Arpit
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Config specs of Atrix 4G seem pretty capable to run all kind of high graphic games.
Just want to confirm if it has no issues running any games.

should i buy this phone ? !!

hello guys , right now i'm a htc wildfire s owner and i'm looking to replace it with a new android device ( better hardware ) and iam very confused between 2 devices the Motorola Atrix 4g and the Sony Xperia Sola but i kinda like the Atrix because of this huge forum there is alot of Roms and stuff but i wanted u Atrix owners to help me explain some points
- i read here on xda that all the new Atrix devices well not be unlocked link here sooo is that true ?
- if i bought this device i think i'll unlock it after a couple weeks and if i wanted to know what isn't exactly working in the CM9 rom cuz it's my favorite and does toggling bluetooth and wifi force restart the device ( ohhh god i sufferd this issue with my wfs ) and does the HDMI port work with ICS based roms ? !!
- is there a webtop for ics roms ?
- in worst cases is CM7 fully working ? !! ( stable ) cuz i can't imagine my self stuck with the orginal rom
that's it for now, thank u guys in advance hope to to join u soon
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
weaz_da_smel said:
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
iximedaixi said:
well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! )
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Resolution of the screen is really nice but for me personally a little too high for a 4" screen.
But the main problem is the colours it produces. Blacks aren't completely black they have a slight brownish greyish look to them. The other colours in general look washed out. Doesn't bother me too much but when comparing to other phones the difference in colours is instantly noticeable.
The atrix hardware is nice. Will run anything you throw at it. We have a very nice stable cm7.2 rom
If I were you I would wait a little while longer to see if Motorola release official ICS for the atrix before buying one unless you don't mind sticking with gingerbread.
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Atrix is a very solid phone, and I would take it over the Sola.
You have GB/CM7 for now, and CM7 is very stable. ICS coming sometime in QTR 3...
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iximedaixi said:
well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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Well the screen is also smaller on the sola, and it has a full set of sub pixels as well as the bravia engine.
The Atrix has a pentile matrix, so even though there is more pixel density, the pentile matrix makes individual pixels more visible.
Well since you're buying in egypt, there probably is a chance your local store has the initial-release stock of the atrix. But there is no garuntee, I bought a second atrix (for a friend), here in New Zealand a few weeks ago and it was unlockable,
I personally haven't tried ICS or JB because im more interested in a working phone (LOL), I don't like having to toy around with things that only work half the time and/or not at all, thats why I try to stay away from the roms until they're stable.....But still, support the developers for their hard work, even if you aren't using their roms just yet (they all look promising).
there are a lot of things not working in the CM9/CM10 roms, that even the devs can't list them all, and a lot of functionality is software-based because there is no driver support for hardware until next month or so, when we get the official ICS from Moto.
The phone works great on CM7 if you're willing to buy it now.
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
if my Atirx will be broken, I Will buy another Atrix. This is one of the greates devices, fingerprint lock, webtop, and many more Especialy Tegra2 and 1GB RAM
maggedo said:
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
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okay your totally right the Galaxy nexus is a great phone but comparing the prices here where is live the atrix sells for 2000 EGP and the nexus for 3500 EGP so there is a huge difference that i can't afford right now and there is also a thing that i don't like about all the nexuses ( except the nexus one ) which is there is no SD Card ..... i can't really imagine my life without an SD Card
I'm considering the same 2 phones. Which phone did you buy, the Xperia Sola or the Atrix?
Atrix
the Atrix is still one of the best phones I have ever owned, and the accessories are great and probably much cheaper now
Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Problem is that there will never be any official ICS from Motorola, and unless the Olympus ICS/JB kernel port is successful, it's likely there will never be any third party HW acceleration either. And yes, there is talk of Motorola releasing the code for the unfinished ICS kernel, but talk is one thing, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing it happen any more than I'd bet on a dead horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
Sure the device itself isn't bad, but the only support you will get for the device is dependent on a dwindling community. Honestly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have just gotten something different, I would have ran away from the thing screaming like a little girl.

Is RAZR Maxx still a viable smartphone as of end of 2012?

Hi,
I'm from Indonesia, and i own Xperia Ray now, and i am interested on Razr Maxx because of the battery life but beside that, i also expect the non laggy performance of a dual core and 1GB of RAM.
Can the Razr Maxx be recommended for me at this time of year? Fyi, the Razr Maxx is still +- 500 USD Sim free on my country, while Acro S is around the same price, and SGS3 for around 650USD. Meanwhile the original RAZR is around 350USD (on discount) and Galaxy Nexus for 330USD. the Razr Maxx HD, which is my dream phone, is still unclear whether it will come to my country on the future, regarding of Motorola decision to reduce the Asia Pasific scope.
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
Should i choose another phone? Or should i wait for the Razr Maxx HD? Really need your input who owns RAZR Maxx Thanks for any input
PS: I prefer not having a Samsung device cause of the TouchWiz. My preferences is to use ICS UI, or any UI that is unobtrusive to the ICS core UI (like Sony's )
Nobody likes to answer?
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hansip87 said:
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
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I won't be too worried about the existing hardware on the Razr Maxx. I'm running ICS very smoothly, and while I'm not running any super high advanced programs, nothing I've tired to run has slowed it down at all.
That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
Sure, these are both relatively minor things, but they'll start adding up. Two months later there will be something else the Maxx can't do that others can. Then another thing, then another thing.
Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
That's not to say I hate my Maxx right now. I don't, not at all. But with smartphones the technology comes rapid fire. What was top of the line 12 months ago is average now, and obsolete 12 months later. You'd be buying average right now, not top of the line.
Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
Hi Red and Draxin, thx for the Reply
RedRamage said:
That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
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About the Onboard buttons, myself actually don't mind with the onboard button, i actually like it more than the on screen button which takes up some real estate. About the photosphere, i'm not sure but shouldn't it work on all Android phone? I mean, if Google Sky Map can work, why not Photosphere? and with this sheet of details of Razr Maxx being real, i won't count it out too quickly http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/behind-the-glass-a-detailed-tour-inside-the-motorola-droid-razr/
RedRamage said:
Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
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Yup you're right, but in Indonesia, the RAZR Maxx was launched June 2012, seems the phone cycle is not as fast as it is on USA or other places. There is not even one Snapdragon S4 based phone here today, the highest only SGS3 for now, even the Bond Phone doesn't show it's nose while the film is already on the theaters.. really digging for Xperia T/TX but with my experience with a 1500mAh battery on Ray, i'm not sure that i want to have those flagship phones with meager battery capacity anymore..
Myself is not really a tech maniac on the phone side. All i want are smooth experience, no lag operation with great battery life. so if it is smooth and can live long, i'm all for it if i am a tech maniac, surely i will set my eyes on the Xperia T or TX, or Nexus 4 maybe but once again battery life hinders them
Draxin said:
Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
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Thanks for the input too I'm more of an internet guy, the games that i like to play are the simple ones like Angry Birds or Bad Piggies, all those HD games is just too hard to play with on screen control so not my cup of tea. but majority of my current phone's battery goes to Internet related application like Maps and Browser.
The standard Razr is really tempting though, at 350USD it is a really cool phone to be had.. but well if only the Maxx battery can be plugged in
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If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
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Well, i am okay with no kernel modification, as long as i can root at least, it's okay it is rootable isn't it?
Thanks guys, your inputs are helpful, if any please give me more input that would be greatly appreciated. :good:
I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
vash_h said:
I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Ou, ok.. :-/ Could you describe the lag you experienced? How's the situation with Live wallpaper enabled? Hmm.. or should i wait for that Jelly Bean update first? Holy smokes maybe RAZR Maxx HD or Razr i will be here then #reallyhopeso
The phone is not laggy for me in stock ics...
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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When i came to look around at local Phone store booth, the Standard Razr was on display and it ran on ICS, so yeah i am sure the update is already available.
Well, with ICS already at near stock condition, i think i don't need to flash custom ROM i think.. Just remove those bloatware (if any, thank God no Verizon here ) and it should be decent performer i think
Seems like i will take the plunge at year's end, maybe the phone will be on sale around 400US$ later.. will pray for that Thanks all
Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Hmmm.. i'm confused, i mean, some guys say it is fast, some say it's slower.. Well, with my own experience on demo booth, the interface is quite fast, but as always, anything without user apps is definitely fast..
@vash_h: if you're on clean state after FDR, is it still laggy for you?
Oh yes, when I'm with friends and using phone on vacation (androidele) after 2 days my battery still has power .
My Maxx works perfectly(ICS 4.0.4)has no lag and fly on the network (beware of programs installed)
Razr Maxx Amazing
I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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He3.. Seems like you are really enjoying your phone so want this phone now X)
I am not a ROM junkies fortunately, as long as it is smooth riding and has quick toggles on status bar, then i'm all for it
I am also preparing to get the RAZR Maxx end of the year when my current provider's contract ends (then I can switch to the provider that has the RAZR Maxx and keep my number). I saw the RAZR on a good deal, but it looks like the phone is no longer available in South Africa. But the MAXX is a better option anyway. Hope my country has the ICS update! Although would love to use Cyanogenmod - which I'm currently using on my Milestone (but I could probably stick to stock for a while anyway before going custom).
Almost fell for the Huawei Ascend P1, but I hate the camera's bulge, and it's not really much of a better phone compared to the RAZR Maxx.
Now RAZR (Maxx) HD would be awesome, but I also don't know if we'll get it here.
Well, this phone has a good hardware. In deed, stock rom is a bit slow, but with some modifications you will have a really fast phone. Not to talk about custom roms... Great signal, design and feeling using it
I'm sure that it will be a great device after an year
i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
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Umm, So it lags like stuttering when installing/updating app and you do something else? or the phone seems to stop for a while on installing/updating app? Well my single core experience with my Xperia tells me that this kind of lag is common though. or is it I/O bottleneck i guess?

How stable is CyanogenMod on this phone?

I'm considering picking up a developer edition GS4 to replace my GS3 but I want to make sure I'm making this decision for the right reasons. Basically I'm looking for a near-perfect AOSP experience "where it counts". That means all primary functions working 95-100%. Does the GS4 have CM builds that fit this bill?
CM on the GS3 has a couple major unfixable issues that have me considering this in the first place:
- Very quiet camcorder recording volume. Didn't think it was a big deal til one of those rare moment experiences took place and I tried to capture it in video only to find the audio was barely audible.
- Flaky data connection in some regions. Being in certain areas would yield a poor 4G connection, often dropping to 3G. Flash back to TouchWiz and voila, strong and fast 4G in the same area.
There are a couple other issues which I don't consider to be primary functional issues like MHL not working and some Bluetooth weirdness (Google really needs to work on this) but those I'm less concerned about. I'm still curious about these things too though.
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The GS4 seems to be the only device worthy upgrading to for my purposes. The Moto X was interesting but I kinda want a better CPU than what I have now... I'm a game emulator junkie and those push your CPU to the limit. LG G2 I'm more interested in but I really don't trust LG's software and I can't rely on the phone getting CM support or even unlocked for that matter. I highly doubt Verizon will ever see another Nexus device... GS4 DE seems to be the only choice.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to your responses
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
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I'm considering picking up a developer edition GS4 to replace my GS3 but I want to make sure I'm making this decision for the right reasons. Basically I'm looking for a near-perfect AOSP experience "where it counts". That means all primary functions working 95-100%. Does the GS4 have CM builds that fit this bill?
CM on the GS3 has a couple major unfixable issues that have me considering this in the first place:
- Very quiet camcorder recording volume. Didn't think it was a big deal til one of those rare moment experiences took place and I tried to capture it in video only to find the audio was barely audible.
- Flaky data connection in some regions. Being in certain areas would yield a poor 4G connection, often dropping to 3G. Flash back to TouchWiz and voila, strong and fast 4G in the same area.
There are a couple other issues which I don't consider to be primary functional issues like MHL not working and some Bluetooth weirdness (Google really needs to work on this) but those I'm less concerned about. I'm still curious about these things too though.
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The GS4 seems to be the only device worthy upgrading to for my purposes. The Moto X was interesting but I kinda want a better CPU than what I have now... I'm a game emulator junkie and those push your CPU to the limit. LG G2 I'm more interested in but I really don't trust LG's software and I can't rely on the phone getting CM support or even unlocked for that matter. I highly doubt Verizon will ever see another Nexus device... GS4 DE seems to be the only choice.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to your responses
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
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Before I got my phone replaced (and the new one got ME7 OTA), CM 10.1 was pretty stable for the last few weeks. It did have some bugs at first (with calling and Bluetooth), but those got fixed some time ago. Didn't have a chance to try the new 10.2, as I'm stuck with the ME7 bootloader = can't flash a custom recovery ;(
The AOSP camera was MUCH better than the TW one. The quality was absolutely astonishing on the AOSP.
As for MHL, didn't try it. I **think** that CM 10.1 even had a wireless display feature in the settings.
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Before I got my phone replaced (and the new one got ME7 OTA), CM 10.1 was pretty stable for the last few weeks. It did have some bugs at first (with calling and Bluetooth), but those got fixed some time ago. Didn't have a chance to try the new 10.2, as I'm stuck with the ME7 bootloader = can't flash a custom recovery ;(
The AOSP camera was MUCH better than the TW one. The quality was absolutely astonishing on the AOSP.
As for MHL, didn't try it. I **think** that CM 10.1 even had a wireless display feature in the settings.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in CM10.2 at this point. It seems to be pretty buggy across all devices sans nexus. Regardless my research has yielded results similar to what you're explaining. It's just difficult to sift through the respective development and Q&A threads to try and find quality info. Lots of people report issues that others aren't having - something I see commonly (but don't experience on my device) in the GS3 threads as well.
Thanks for the info!

Im considering buying Moto E 2nd Gen LTE. Is it worth it?

Hi. I currently own Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 for more than a year and I thought its good time to change phone. As you can see, Im a person who buys budget phones. I was searching for my next budget phone and Motorola Moto E LTE got my attention. I couldnt find a better deal than this, so I thought before making a final decision I will ask some opinions from people who got this phone. So, what do you think of Moto E and can you recommend it? What are biggest disadvantages and hows the performance? I already know that lack of flashlight is big hit for me.
Well it's a hard question. On stock 5.0.2 (there is still no update in eu) performance is preatty bad. Sometimes it runs smooth but there are cases when it lags horrible. I don't know who even installed chrome on this phone: it is cleary unusable however I instaled lighting browser and it works fine.
I've bought this phone because I tought that it will be my first smartphone which will be runing fine out of the box without modifications and I'm disapionted now :/ There is update in US and it probably fixes some of performance issues but when it will be available in eu? We still don't know.
Of course there is some good things like:
- of course price
- build quality
- very fast gps
- decent screen for it's price
- great battery life (up to 7h of screen on time)
- almost clean android
- decent speaker
- sd card slot and enabled android's app to sd
- up to date cpu (bigger chance that it will get android m)
- lte
- big data partion (we get 5gb out of 8gb so I think that's good)
- good light sensor
- and I very like it's look (but it's my own preference)
and what is bad now:
- performance on 5.0.2
- there is no e-compas! (my xperia x8 had compas in 2010)
- no notification led (this is very annoying since moto display is too sensitive and ambient display works randomly)
- fornt camera (back one is decent but sometimes it can't focus well)
- lack of camera flash
- updates aren't so fast (at least in eu)
- miracast isn't working (because of only 2,4 ghz wifi)
- moto features aren't working well on 5.0.2, for exaple twist to turn on camera isn't working properly (after twist I feel the vibration but screen isn't turning on)
So would I buy it again?? I don't know, it's performance is really discapointing right now. I compared it to moto g on 4.4.4 (which should be slower because of 720p screen and slower cpu) and it was like day and night. G was way faster.
Thats a bummer. I thought it was very good for basic usage like messages and browser. I heard Android 5.0 had memory leaks, but from what youre saying performance is really bad here. Is it fixed in 5.1?
well for basic usage it can make a job, I discabled all moto services that you can discable in settings, installed nova launcher, lighting browser and it's somehow working. When it starts lags I clean my recent apps and it helps.
The phone is preatty good but it was relased in bad time, in days of probably the worst android relase, lollipop looks cool but it can't be as fast as kitkat :/
howerer when I compared it to my other firend's moto g on stock 5.0.2 they were running simmilar and he told me that he hasn't got issues with it (but he often clear recent apps so maybe thats the reason)
I belive that 5.1.1 will fix all the issues, we have to wait.
I would appreciate other people opinions.
just too good a phone at this price
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I would appreciate other people opinions.
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when i purchased it i dint have much expectations considering its cheap.but then as i am using it for over 2 months now ,i dont feel it as a cheap phone.it never hanged on me..not even once.though i have disabled quite a lot of stuff but thats fine...this is first phone i am running without rooting in last 5 years.and surprisingly i am not feeling need to .My battery lasts beyond 3 days and it runs fast enuf in comparison to my past phones which i had to root to make them usable(samsung s3 , s advance etc)
i wud say go fr it..5.1 update is sure to improve it further
When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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Well, I think it cant be worse than my current Galaxy Ace 2.

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