NFC on the HTC One - AT&T HTC One (M7)

Anyone know how to use it? Google Wallet doesn't like the phone/AT&T yet and I'm not near the 2 random cities you get the "special" SIM for Isis.
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Wallet was so bleh
bwaredapenguin said:
Anyone know how to use it? Google Wallet doesn't like the phone/AT&T yet and I'm not near the 2 random cities you get the "special" SIM for Isis.
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Before they disabled Wallet on rooted phones, I used it on my AT&T Nexus S. Once I got past the 'cool' factor (and the $10 free credit), I decided that a phone unlock, tap, PIN entry, then usually another tap... was more difficult than swiping my credit card.
So it would be cool to get Wallet going - but more as an academic thing.

This is not a phone specific thing. AT&T and Verizon are trying to roll out their own NFC payment system and will do everything they can to block Google Wallet. What is phone specific is how successful the dev community has been in unlocking this feature, but I would not hold my breath for HTC One since we don't even have a custom ROM yet.
As for the future of NFC. Yes, it doesn't really take less time to buy something versus CC swipe. However there are a couple advanges:
1) More secure than CC
2) Possibly eliminate the need to carry a physical wallet
3) Lots of free deals when they start rolling this out
I for one am counting the days were I don't need a physical wallet anymore. As of today, I only need my driver's license and CC in my wallet. All my other stuff lives in my phone.

Sucky part is being that NFC is so short range.. most cases stop you from using it.. you will need to walk around with your phone naked most the time if you want to use NFC.. or get a really slim design case.. even with those NFC sometimes don't work

Dang. I just switched to AT&T getting the One, didn't know about that. Not really a dealbreaker anyway, but it'll certainly be nice when/if the devs get it working. I always carry my phone naked, I can't stand to cover up and bulk up such a slim, sleek design.
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[Q] I have 5 lines, all out of contract. What should I do?

Actually, I know what I want to do. I want to get 5 iphone4s' or something and sell them.
The question is, will at&t leave me alone when they find out that I'm not using any of these phones?
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Actually, I know what I want to do. I want to get 5 iphone4s' or something and sell them.
The question is, will at&t leave me alone when they find out that I'm not using any of these phones?
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Wouldn't bother them. You already extended your contract. You will need to go to the store and get regular SIM as the ones in the phones will be active with the numbers you upgraded. Once you get the new SIMs you'll have to change your data packages back to what they were by changing back the IMEIs you had before the upgrade as well.
the IPhone 4 and 4s take completely different sims than the other phones they are like micro compared to normal sims. I have posted a pic of them. You will definately need to go get a normal sized sim...
Your responses make no sense when you take into account the fact that he already has 5 phones, which means he has 5 sim cards. Why would he need to get different sim cards to swap back? Oh, that's right. He wouldn't.
Are you just throwing out random facts for no reason?
Also, it is your choice to do whatever with the phones. AT&T can't restrict you on who or where the phone can go to.
Thanks for your feedback everyone.
As far as I know/remember, I didn't need to use the sim card they provided; the one I've been using worked.
I guess I'll be posting this on marketplace now
Here are the potential issues.
First you have to get 5 of them. In years past they have put 2 per customer restrictions on them, so you might be making 3 stops, or waiting for shipping. They sell so high because people have a hard time finding one in stock. The price will drop once they are easy to find. Even though they are a disappointing upgrade, they still have an apple on back, so they will sell lots and fast.
Next the SIMs, the pictures don't show a door on the 4S. With the sprint and vz phones being international the SIM might not come out, all phones may have one permanently. Your old 5 SIMs will immediately stop working. You will need to contact att to get them working again. With how busy the stores will be, this may be a very long phone call, during which time all your old phones wont work.
Next features. The data plans for iPhones won't work with any other phones. This will be part of your long call, switching 5 data plans back to the old style. Also the visual voicemail on the iPhone will deactivate the normal voicemail, and will have to be switched back and setup again. Also if you have a data+text combined data plan I have heard you lose that, and can't get it back. But the family plans have a different setup, and that may not apply. If you buy them online you may lose the unlimited data, if you have it, which you cab get back, but it requires some escalation at att to put it back.
So, if you can get 5 iPhones you'll make a quick Buck, but it is going to be a headache and takes hours of your time.
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+1 ^^^^
And if you don't have data plan on one of your lines, you could be stuck with minimal $15/per line/per month * 24 months = $360 extra charges per line. If you bought from AT&T store, you may be able to drop the data afterwards. But if you purchased through 3rd party, you may be charged extra$$ if you change your plan within certain periods.
ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Your responses make no sense when you take into account the fact that he already has 5 phones, which means he has 5 sim cards. Why would he need to get different sim cards to swap back? Oh, that's right. He wouldn't.
Are you just throwing out random facts for no reason?
Also, it is your choice to do whatever with the phones. AT&T can't restrict you on who or where the phone can go to.
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You need new Sims because there is a size difference. I support these on a daily basis. That's why I posted the pic of the 2 different sims.
I'm sure at&t will swap your sim out without too much pain
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You need new Sims because there is a size difference. I support these on a daily basis. That's why I posted the pic of the 2 different sims.
I'm sure at&t will swap your sim out without too much pain
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Problem solved.
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Problem solved.
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There you go, buy the a adapters, or just call att and have then reassign the SIM cards you already have. Somehow this solution seems harder than the free lengthy phone call.
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Very interesting. I guess I should try one line and see what happens.
Or maybe I should get an att gs2 and sell it for less profit (and headache)
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Or ... better yet, keep the SGS II, they are Amazing!! You will have a hard time letting it go once you play with it.
But, yes the SGS II uses the same data and set up as any android smartphone, so it should cause less changes to your account.
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Is my sig from xda app not that obvious?
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I've talked at length about this with people I know at att stores. The only stipulation from their end is that a smart phone continues to get used on each line.
The discount they give on their smart phones is based on making more money per month off you based on the smart phone internet charge. As long as that doesn't change they don't care, at least in a technical sense. They won't like it but they can't and won't stop you.
Money talks.
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g2tl said:
Is my sig from xda app not that obvious?
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Yeah, I missed it on that reply, plus my eyes are trained to look for the att version:i777.
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What will you spend your free $10 from google wallet on?

I'm thinking I'm going to use it on GAS! I'm sure I'll be one of the first to swipe my phone on the NFC reader at the register.
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I can't get the google wallet to work. It keeps telling me to set NFC in settings, but it is already set.
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WUESTSIDER X!
it took just a moment to set up the google prepaid card and boom.
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I bought a pack of cigarettes from 7 eleven, the guys face was priceless when i bumped the phone
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Jamba Juice probably.
Stupid question: the app says you don't have to open the app before you place it on the sensor. Do you just unlock your phone and bump from the home screen?
I used it for gas. The lady in behind the counter was amazed. As cool as NFC is, I don't see it taking off anytime soon. I see no point in it.
shook187;26694900. said:
I see no point in it.
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electronic receipts ... ?
its a plus for me
bacidath said:
electronic receipts ... ?
its a plus for me
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The only receipts that matter are the paper ones that gets printed from the register. Like I said, I see no true value in NFL.
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The only receipts that matter are the paper ones that gets printed from the register. Like I said, I see no true value in NFL.
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NFL makes a lot of money..... Lol
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I activated the wallet, but it seems there's not alot of places around here to use it on. I know the local grocery store can use it, but other stores are hit and miss.
I'll probably use it on food somewhere...free lunch is always nice.
Free Coffee and cigs this morning, thanks Google....
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I grabbed some free coffee yesterday during break time. Maybe I'll get some more today, on the house thanks to Google
I bought some juice and a snack from the vending machine at work. then got some breakfast from mcdonalds.
shook187 said:
The only receipts that matter are the paper ones that gets printed from the register. Like I said, I see no true value in NFL.
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well... I travel for work, paper receipts I have to scan and email and since google gives you an electronic record Im sure theres a way to export and email... so value is relative
Google Wallet
The frist time i used google wallet i got ask to see my ID which i didnt have it since i just came from the gym so he didnt let me buy the items i wanted and this was at chevron . the next day i i went to a diffrent gas station to put $10.00 of gas and the cashier said they didnt accept it when on the front door a big sticker says google wallet acceptted here !!!! anyone else run into this problem ??
I haven't used the $10 credit yet but I think NFC is pretty bad ass. Visited 7-11a couple times this weekend. First visit all the cashier could utter was "whoaaa". The second time the girl looked at the other cashier and said "wow, did you see what just happened?"
I had trouble with it a couple times though. Not sure what the issue was. The last time I used it to pay at the pump and it was flawless.
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Just tried it at 7-11. Turned on screen, scanned it. G wallet asked for pin, then said scan again to send. Scanned, message came up to ask cashier to check transaction or scan again. Scanned again and went thru. Now, I wanted to open up gwallet to which it said says wait to initialize....wtf?. Now I can't open it at all. Contemplating a restart but to lazy atm.
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[Q] Class Action Lawsuit Htc Evo 4g LTE Owners vs. Google,Sprint,HTC

I am beginning to think only legal action will force the involved parties to deploy a much needed fix to Google Wallet.Anyone else?
Not while Sprint is preparing their own service. They will need to figure out contractually what fits their business model and that will impact you either way. Class actions are not for that purpose.
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Even then you've not really got anything to sue on. By the time they even processed paperwork though their legal divisions the issue would be resolved.
I did tell sprint that I wasn't paying my $36 activation fee until it was fixed, because at this point in time my phone does not function like it was advertised too. They waived it.
No.
The only thing 99% of class actions do is make attorneys richer while clogging up the courts.
At this point in time,we HAD a service from Google that was working,that is not at this point.Anyone who loaded funds on their Google prepaid cards is pretty much f*cked right now.At the moment,noone knows who is really to blame,so all 3 corp. are liable as defendants.
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Even then you've not really got anything to sue on. By the time they even processed paperwork though their legal divisions the issue would be resolved.
I did tell sprint that I wasn't paying my $36 activation fee until it was fixed, because at this point in time my phone does not function like it was advertised too. They waived it.
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I'll definitely give that a shot,first bill since upgrade is due next week.
Lol this thread made me laugh. You really that mad that Google wallet doesn't work? Go ahead and take it to court. You'll lose in a heart beat
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Lol this thread made me laugh. You really that mad that Google wallet doesn't work? Go ahead and take it to court. You'll lose in a heart beat
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No,not really,just figured it was worth considering.
BrianBusby2038 said:
No,not really,just figured it was worth considering.
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Is your phone rooted? Also, how much did it cost for the app? Did you really buy the phone because of the app? See where I'm going? There is no grounds for a lawsuit. Even lucky to have the activation fee waived, because you are activating the device not the software.
I'm more frustrated by the LTE tag or being charged $10 for premium data when I barely get 3g, dropped calls, stuff like that.
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At this point in time,we HAD a service from Google that was working,that is not at this point.Anyone who loaded funds on their Google prepaid cards is pretty much f*cked right now.At the moment,noone knows who is really to blame,so all 3 corp. are liable as defendants.
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So you can't spend the money online? You can't call google and ask for a refund until its fixed? Nothing really substantial enough for a classaction.
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Not that I would recommend a CA suit but its pretty much leaving the funds, inaccessible with no forward communication on a known issue.
The ball would be in Google's court.
Still, rather than a useless & costly fight its best as an XDA member, to root, edit build prop & keep it moving.
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Wallet at this point is stupid. Why would anyone fund a wallet account from a perfectly good and capable credit or debit card? Most credit cards comes with protection against unauthorize use, but by putting it into a wallet account you lose some protection and have to play by google's rules. I know some people what to use the phones NFC feature but come on, how many times will one go into a mcdonald or gas station to use wallet before the novelty wears
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Leoisright said:
Is your phone rooted? Also, how much did it cost for the app? Did you really buy the phone because of the app? See where I'm going? There is no grounds for a lawsuit. Even lucky to have the activation fee waived, because you are activating the device not the software.
I'm more frustrated by the LTE tag or being charged $10 for premium data when I barely get 3g, dropped calls, stuff like that.
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Yes,I'm rooted,and I havent experienced any connectivity issues.Sprint's Network is actuall fairly decent where I live.I do however,expect a flagship device to function as advertised.Fact is,Wallet is a System App distributed as part of the phones operating system and should work without build.prop edits.
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Yes,I'm rooted,and I havent experienced any connectivity issues.Sprint's Network is actuall fairly decent where I live.I do however,expect a flagship device to function as advertised.Fact is,Wallet is a System App distributed as part of the phones operating system and should work without build.prop edits.
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Things do work. But where did it show google wallet as an advertisement? All the commercials here show burst like camera and beats music. My point being, we can sit here and pick apart one thing or just fix it by a simple edit. Crap happens in everyday life, doesn't mean I need to sue people or companies. I just deal with it.
Talking about a class action lawsuit over google wallet just seems little extreme to me is all. Have you contacted google and asked for money back? I would hope google wallet wasn't the driving force behind anyone desire to buy this phone.
It will get fixed. Just give it a little time.
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I am beginning to think only legal action will force the involved parties to deploy a much needed fix to Google Wallet.Anyone else?
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It's already started to work for some people.. Jesus. Google acknowledged the problem and said that they were working on it. Have some damn patience.
Bwahahaha...thanks for the laugh!
to be dead a$$ honest.. i dont even no what google wallet is?? i never used it.. never tryed going on it?? all i kno is that its an app on my phone that i will never use :laugh:
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Things do work. But where did it show google wallet as an advertisement? All the commercials here show burst like camera and beats music. My point being, we can sit here and pick apart one thing or just fix it by a simple edit. Crap happens in everyday life, doesn't mean I need to sue people or companies. I just deal with it.
Talking about a class action lawsuit over google wallet just seems little extreme to me is all. Have you contacted google and asked for money back? I would hope google wallet wasn't the driving force behind anyone desire to buy this phone.
It will get fixed. Just give it a little time.
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Is your phone rooted? Also, how much did it cost for the app? Did you really buy the phone because of the app? See where I'm going? There is no grounds for a lawsuit. Even lucky to have the activation fee waived, because you are activating the device not the software.
I'm more frustrated by the LTE tag or being charged $10 for premium data when I barely get 3g, dropped calls, stuff like that.
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I would hope LTE wasn't a driving force for purchasing this phone given Sprints history with 4g roll out. I bought this phone for ics, bad ass duel core, amazing screen, awesome camera and sense 4. I don't care about LTE or google wallet.
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I would hope LTE wasn't a driving force for purchasing this phone given Sprints history with 4g roll out. I bought this phone for ics, bad ass duel core, amazing screen, awesome camera and sense 4. I don't care about LTE or google wallet.
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Yup. I'm with you. Heck, I rarely got 4g...lol. everything else os just as expected. Awesome device for free for me... Traded my og evo for the 3d even up, and traded my 3d for the lte even up. Haven't had to pay for two years out of pocket. You won't hear me complain about anything but dev related issues.
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I'm more upset that they are offering the phone we just paid $200 for a month ago at the low price of $49!:banghead:
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ISIS with Developer HTC One M8

I have a developer edition running on AT&T. I have the correct SIM card but AT&T is not allowing the application to be downloaded on these phones. Has anyone found a work around? I did not want to root it yet.
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mikeg2013 said:
I have a developer edition running on AT&T. I have the correct SIM card but AT&T is not allowing the application to be downloaded on these phones. Has anyone found a work around? I did not want to root it yet.
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I have spoken to the tech dept at ATT and I have a ticket open on ISIS and Visual Voice Mail.
I suggest you also call and complain.
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Just gotta ask...why would you bother with ISIS when Google Wallet supposedly works out of the box
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Tower1972 said:
Just gotta ask...why would you bother with ISIS when Google Wallet supposedly works out of the box
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe ISIS is more widely accepted?
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Google wallet you could use your own credit card through nfc where Isis you have to use their credit card, that's the only difference between the apps.
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ISIS gives you a $50 credit for signing up.
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Google wallet works with any terminal that allows pay pass or whatever it's called plus allows you to add ALOT more cards to use , opposed to the what..2-3 cards allowed with Isis.
Plus I don't believe you need a special secure element built into a sim to use it . I know on ATT and Verizon purposely gimped a lot of phones to force people to use Isis while blocking people from using wallet by either having the secure element removed or completely shut off..a very shady way to do things IMO
https://www.paywithisis.com
Seems the money Isis pays is for friend referrals..10.00 per each friend you sign up..but if you don't have a Wells Fargo, chase, or American Express card..it's useless..MasterCard and visa plus numerous other banks aren't accepted with it I believe
Isis is carrier only,AT&T,Verizon,Tmobile I believe, Google wallet is worldwide...
Other getting a one time $50 credit for opening a card with them Isis is pointless and refuse to use the app, specially cause its ugly.
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Ive got it loading fine on dev edition based rom...will need to use xposed work around but it works...soooo should be good to go in a little bit for those who are interested p.m. me for final phase of testing(i dont have a secure sim) ...if not then itll go to the one tester and he will reap the usage of isis on the dev build... :0P
When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
To each their own obviously there is a need for it to work with developer build for folks that do already have and use it and had purchased the phone. Personally I don't use it or Google Wallet, but I did this for those who do...
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When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
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That makes sense. Maybe the fact that it was so strongly pushed when buying the device gave a bad first impression.
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When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
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You can download the app right from the play store. Just have to have the right sim. I tried on my GF's note 2 but the sim wasn't compatible. Just download it from the Play Store. Don't see why you wouldn't take advantage of a free $50 bucks of Gas, food, merchandise. You don't have to ever use it again. :good:
its blocked on playstore for a non branded device and will not install on the m8
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You can download the app right from the play store. Just have to have the right sim. I tried on my GF's note 2 but the sim wasn't compatible. Just download it from the Play Store. Don't see why you wouldn't take advantage of a free $50 bucks of Gas, food, merchandise. You don't have to ever use it again. :good:
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Google wallet you could use your own credit card through nfc where Isis you have to use their credit card, that's the only difference between the apps.
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Actually, the difference is HUGE. Google Wallet takes the transaction and tries to authorize a purchase to your designated credit card. Google Wallet does not look or behave like your designated card. Transactions first go to google's servers, then google servers try to authorize the amount against your preferred card and if approved then approves the transaction. Google retains the information for the transaction. This is useless for me since on my statement all my Google Wallet transactions show up as Google transactions.
ISIS, on the other hand, actually emulates your selected card. All transaction data is passed thru just as if you used your card. Since it's emulating your card, merchant details will show up on your statement, not "Google". Google Wallet is useless for many many business travelers that submit expense reports via statements... myself included.
went to pick up my new M8 with the ATT store, and got the same nag about ISIS. The SIM is compatible, and ISIS was installed, and they offer $50 credit on it. Since I knew I will root the phone and it will die anyhow, I said yes, and immediately bought screen protector and other stuff for a total of $45 , actually not paying a dime..
Cane home, unlocked boot , S-OFF and rooted the phone. ISIS does not work now even with the Xposed root bypass (I suspect the HW on the new SIM is lower level binary than xposed is), but I don;t care as I have Wallet installed and working fine. Anyhow it works exactly at the same places in the US, plus in Europe.. :laugh:
Over all- Say yes for the ATT rep, and get $50 free stuff in the store right away.. I don't see how this is affecting credit score as this is not a credit line, but a prepaid e-wallet..
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went to pick up my new M8 with the ATT store, and got the same nag about ISIS. The SIM is compatible, and ISIS was installed, and they offer $50 credit on it. Since I knew I will root the phone and it will die anyhow, I said yes, and immediately bought screen protector and other stuff for a total of $45 , actually not paying a dime..
Cane home, unlocked boot , S-OFF and rooted the phone. ISIS does not work now even with the Xposed root bypass (I suspect the HW on the new SIM is lower level binary than xposed is), but I don;t care as I have Wallet installed and working fine. Anyhow it works exactly at the same places in the US, plus in Europe.. :laugh:
Over all- Say yes for the ATT rep, and get $50 free stuff in the store right away.. I don't see how this is affecting credit score as this is not a credit line, but a prepaid e-wallet..
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Hmmm...I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFF'd my brand-new M8 over the weekend and loaded the latest ViperOne M8 ROM on it tonight; coming from the purposely gimped AT&T Galaxy S4, my modded M8 looks, runs, and sounds great, just like I want.
After using the latest Xposed ISIS root check bypass, I was able to get ISIS running just fine, signed up for it and Serve, and got my $50 credit (I didn't want to sign up in the store, because I wanted to get some more info on it first). Even if ISIS decides to stop working, the physical card should be here in a few days; the plus side to that is I'll be able to use that $50 anywhere that takes AMEX, even places without NFC terminals or at online stores, such as Amazon and Newegg.
"Free" money is always nice; it almost makes up for the taxes that I paid on the phone when I got it Friday.
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Wilsonium said:
Actually, the difference is HUGE. Google Wallet takes the transaction and tries to authorize a purchase to your designated credit card. Google Wallet does not look or behave like your designated card. Transactions first go to google's servers, then google servers try to authorize the amount against your preferred card and if approved then approves the transaction. Google retains the information for the transaction. This is useless for me since on my statement all my Google Wallet transactions show up as Google transactions.
ISIS, on the other hand, actually emulates your selected card. All transaction data is passed thru just as if you used your card. Since it's emulating your card, merchant details will show up on your statement, not "Google". Google Wallet is useless for many many business travelers that submit expense reports via statements... myself included.
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Furthermore, at least it is my understanding, that since all of your purchases are funneling through Google, you won't get reward points on your credit cards for specific category purchases, and might not get them at all for the "everything else" category. For me, reward points and building credit are the whole purpose of me even using credit cards, so that's a huge red mark for Google Wallet.
This is how Google manages to support so many cards BTW. It's because they just make a "Google" purchase transaction on your card and then finance your purchase with Google Bucks. That may work for some, but it defeats the purpose for many, and at the very least, makes it difficult to track all your transactions.
To be fair, a lot of this is because AT&T is blocking Google from getting the appropriate contracts with CC companies, it's not like Google doesn't want to have the same type of service ISIS offers.
EDIT: I looked in to it further, and the other concern is that you would not get your credit card benefits either -- So kiss additional insurance, return protection, travel assurance, etc all goodbye. I wish that Google Wallet were what we all want it to be, but their current system is flawed.
Im just gonna toss tis out there, the Amex card you start with Isis is a prepayed card. It is NOT a hit on your credit at all. I like it as I then have a actual plastic card for it as well and if my son is going on a school trip, or scout function or heck even mothers day, I simply handed the card to him and he can use what money I put on it.
As for google wallet, I like it for gas purchases. I have my ATM card on it and use that at the pump. sometimes. but mainly NFC isnt nearly as prevalent around me to make either of these apps worth much to me.
Oh and with rootcloak in exposed installer Isis is working on my rooted S-Off'd M8 runing SkyFall from iBastid....

To Sell or not to sell LG G3

Hi,
I am thinking of selling my G3 because I fear the bootloader won't be unlocked. Root is great and the xposed module helps a lot but I would really like to get AOSP. Verizon is blowing it and LG lets them do it.
The phone is awesome just itself but I am getting itchy and want to move on. Anybody else feeling like jumping ship?
Another one!? Be warned, the last one was locked, and this one will probably be too.
note 4 is my device i may jump ship before note 4 get released on verizon
I'm waiting for other carriers to finally push Verizon into opening up their phones a little bit more. We've seen it in two different areas in the last week, first, Verizon had to change their mind about throttling data for unlimited users, and they also were forced to raise data limits for customers on certain plans. All this was simply pressure by other carriers forcing their hand. Don't for a second thing it was Verizons charity, they certainly never give more away for less. This was simply the market forcing them to change.
I am hoping in the future, Verizon follows suit with their hardware. They may have the best service, but that doesn't give them carte blanche to lock their phones down and have a valid excuse. Phones on other carriers are no less secure, specifically have not been shown to be less secure as to Verizons arguments as to why they do it, but what other carriers do get is a much faster update cycle (software), and flexibility with having your phone the way you want it.
I'm on the fence as to the original question - Sell or keep. Hell, my stereo in my car is Carplay ready with the update that came out yesterday for Pioneer, I may just jump ship to the iPhone Plus and be done with it all. I'd sure miss my Android, but ****, if I am locked down and can't use AOSP, then I might as well be locked down and unable to use AOSP and have all the features integrated with my car. I've been an android user for half a decade, and had an iPhone back in the day... Guess we'll see.
transfo47 said:
Another one!? Be warned, the last one was locked, and this one will probably be too.
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I never saw the old one. Didn't know it was such a controversial issue. Sorry
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I love this phone. Not currently worried about bootloader. I'm happy with root right now. It's a tough call. I hope to see bootloader unlocked as well.
Sell it. We don't need any wishy washy users to have this phone.
For anyone who wants AOSP why not just get a nexus? Even with the unlocked boot loader on my Galaxy G3 AOSP was always buggy so I'm sure this phone will have AOSP bugs as well...
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jager420 said:
For anyone who wants AOSP why not just get a nexus? Even with the unlocked boot loader on my Galaxy G3 AOSP was always buggy so I'm sure this phone will have AOSP bugs as well...
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I am tempted to switch from Verizon just to get the nexus 6. Its also about tinkering too
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I read somewhere on the internet that Verizon may carry the Nexus 6. But it being a post from the web, I take it with a grain of salt. But that would be cool though.
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mikelikesbikes said:
I read somewhere on the internet that Verizon may carry the Nexus 6. But it being a post from the web, I take it with a grain of salt. But that would be cool though.
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I saw that to but they also said that they would allow the nexus 7 on their network but did they ever happen? If the nexus 6 comes to Verizon and if it isn't as big as the current nexus 7 you might see one more G3 on eBay
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Yeah I will definitely pick one up as well if it does come to Verizon, and if its lower cost like they usually are. Knowing Verizon they will just jack the price up though. Gonna hold out for boot loader unlock or work-around. I am keeping the faith. I don't want to drop this phone and miss out on its potential being met with stock and AOSP ROMs.
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My 4 week old G3 is currently for sale on Swappa as well as Craigslist. I like it, but it's not what I want long term. I'm actually thinking of moving on to the iPhone 6 (maybe the Plus). I'm also interested in what the Nexus 6 has to offer.
The nexus7 LTE does run on the Verizon network.
I run my Verizon LG G3 on my T-Mobile 5gig $30 sim mainly, as I have other uses for my unlimited data Verizon sim.
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desantim said:
I'm waiting for other carriers to finally push Verizon into opening up their phones a little bit more. We've seen it in two different areas in the last week, first, Verizon had to change their mind about throttling data for unlimited users, and they also were forced to raise data limits for customers on certain plans. All this was simply pressure by other carriers forcing their hand. Don't for a second thing it was Verizons charity, they certainly never give more away for less. This was simply the market forcing them to change.
I am hoping in the future, Verizon follows suit with their hardware. They may have the best service, but that doesn't give them carte blanche to lock their phones down and have a valid excuse. Phones on other carriers are no less secure, specifically have not been shown to be less secure as to Verizons arguments as to why they do it, but what other carriers do get is a much faster update cycle (software), and flexibility with having your phone the way you want it.
I'm on the fence as to the original question - Sell or keep. Hell, my stereo in my car is Carplay ready with the update that came out yesterday for Pioneer, I may just jump ship to the iPhone Plus and be done with it all. I'd sure miss my Android, but ****, if I am locked down and can't use AOSP, then I might as well be locked down and unable to use AOSP and have all the features integrated with my car. I've been an android user for half a decade, and had an iPhone back in the day... Guess we'll see.
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I would never trade in an android phone for an iphone... Never ever for any reason!
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I never saw the old one. Didn't know it was such a controversial issue. Sorry
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It's fine, I was just warning you that there was another one
I love my G3. It's perfect for a lot of things, and while an unlocked bootloader now would be a bonus, it is in no way a hindrance or disappointment at this stage.
With that said, I am seriously eyeing the reports for the Droid Turbo Verizon is set to release soon. Their last line of Droids based on the original Moto X eventually got root/unlock. A nice plus. But personally, it's the voice actions that intrigue me. That and the added functionality that hardware such as the Moto Hint will have with it, that I wouldn't have while using it with the G3. And frankly, I always got better reception with my old Bionic than I ever did with my Galaxy S4 (which was crap) and the G3 (significantly better than the S4, but still not quite as good as the Bionic was). However, it'll be dead in the water for me if it lacks a MicroSD slot.
Why the Droid Turbo over the Moto X 2014? Battery life, battery life and battery life.
For now, I'd say keep the G3. Even without an unlocked bootloader yet, it is a phenomenal device that readily bests the M8, S5 and Moto X 2014 (due to battery). Does it best the Note 4 though? Time will tell. Personally it does, but that is due to an extreme dislike of TouchWiz.
Sell!
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This lg skin is killing me even debloated with Nova...
I have gotten used to the LG skin. Unlike the G2 my wife has, the G3 is close enough to my Nexus5 that I can use them both no problem.

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