I'm curious about something regarding the newer ROMs in the dev forum. Why do so many of the newer ROMs coming out insist that you have to be on the JB OTA before flashing? I'm familiar with flashing on other phones where you just wipe and flash, and move on with life. Does this have to do with the radio/modem? And if that's the case, could you not just flash the ROM and then a modem? I'm just trying to get some clarification stemming from genuine confusion.
Not really sure but could it maybe have something to do with the trust/compatibility deal thing?? Idk I was wondering the same question in op. By no means is this the answer I was just throwing this out there. Hopefully someone can shed some light.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229568
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No, that link did clear it up. Not sure how I missed it before, but whatever. Seems to be a security feature for the newer ROMs, if I read that post correctly.
Its not just a security feature, but that's the gist of it. Adam Outler explains it http://www.xda-developers.com/android/trustzone-a-dimension-of-multiple-worlds/ .
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I'm curious about something regarding the newer ROMs in the dev forum. Why do so many of the newer ROMs coming out insist that you have to be on the JB OTA before flashing? I'm familiar with flashing on other phones where you just wipe and flash, and move on with life. Does this have to do with the radio/modem? And if that's the case, could you not just flash the ROM and then a modem? I'm just trying to get some clarification stemming from genuine confusion.
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No, its the tz partition that is only changed throught the OTA/LGNSPTing that is needed. I'm not quite sure of all the specifics, but this tz partition is what you need to flash these new roms.
Excellent explanation, much thanks. Quick follow up question now... Once the OTA update is done, is that more or less permanent for the purposes of ROM flashing? In other words, does the phone have to be put back to stock every time I want to change ROMs?
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You only need to do it would once. Once the tz is put in place it stays, unless you lgnpst to the n4 conversion or to ICS. Flashing a ROM in recovery won't change it.
Beautiful. That's what I figured, but better to ask before bricking my phone. Thanks again.
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C2fifield said:
No, its the tz partition that is only changed throught the OTA/LGNSPTing that is needed. I'm not quite sure of all the specifics, but this tz partition is what you need to flash these new roms.
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Nice. Thank u for clarification. Much appreciated.
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So I flashed one of these roms,Vanilla rootbox to be exact. Can I now flash any of these newer roms or do i need to go back to the stock 4.1.2 before flashing another one of these roms?
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So I flashed one of these roms,Vanilla rootbox to be exact. Can I now flash any of these newer roms or do i need to go back to the stock 4.1.2 before flashing another one of these roms?
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Standard "I'm not a developer but..." disclaimer here. You can either revert to the stock ICS build and get the OTA update, then re-root/unlock, or I seem to remember a flashable stock 4.1.2 zip file in the development section that is supposed to take care of the TZ stuff to let you move on with life.
Feel free to correct me if that's not good information, though.
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Standard "I'm not a developer but..." disclaimer here. You can either revert to the stock ICS build and get the OTA update, then re-root/unlock, or I seem to remember a flashable stock 4.1.2 zip file in the development section that is supposed to take care of the TZ stuff to let you move on with life.
Feel free to correct me if that's not good information, though.
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I already lngpost-ed to the 4.1.2 and then rooted and then flashed one of these newer roms. My question is really can I go from one of these roms to another without going back to the stock 4.1.2 and rooting again?
That is my understanding. Once you have the TrustZone partition set up from the stock JB, it's there and you don't have to mess with it again. Unless you do something that kills it, like go back to an ICS rom.
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aaronius said:
That is my understanding. Once you have the TrustZone partition set up from the stock JB, it's there and you don't have to mess with it again. Unless you do something that kills it, like go back to an ICS rom.
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Sweet. Thanks for the help. I'll post back if for some reason it does not work
Good question OP, I was wondering the same thing and this LGNPST thing is confusing.
So, I am currently running SnowJB (which I believe is 4.1.2?)
Do I need to do the LGPNST in order to install these newer ROMs, such as Vanilla Rootbox? Or am I all set to go ahead and flash new ROM?
To anyone confused, ask yourself...
Did you receive the 4.1.2 (JB) update over the air OR did you use lgnpst to flash to 4.1.2?
If yes, then you can begin flashing as usual without having to lgnpst every time you change ROMs.
If you haven't used one of these methods then you need to do one first before flashing the new ROMs.
Simple as that.
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TangoXray said:
To anyone confused, ask yourself...
Did you receive the 4.1.2 (JB) update over the air OR did you use lgnpst to flash to 4.1.2?
If yes, then you can begin flashing as usual without having to lgnpst every time you change ROMs.
If you haven't used one of these methods then you need to do one first before flashing the new ROMs.
Simple as that.
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Nuff said. Couldn't b any clearer . Thanks:thumbup::thumbup:
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Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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Root with odin like you would on gb but on ICS. Just try the cm9 roms though, it will change your life
You do not need to downgrade to GB to root. What you need to do is boot the phone into download mode, and use Odin to flash a custom recovery (such as CWM). Once you have the custom recovery flashed, you can boot into recovery mode and flash the Superuser or Supersu zip file to give you root. Using this method is the most foolproof way.
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and, you would get better answers if you would post a question in the Q&A thread, not in general...
Look in the custom rom section of this loser's thread...he is such a loser...make sure you flame the hell out of him, but here is his link....
go the custom rom section...you will the awesome ics offical already root...and debloated, and one thread has the pure virgin stock ics ....blah blah blah....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
myke nytemare said:
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Me tooo...
xshaftx said:
i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Think he was kidding...I think...LOL, and I try to promote all...hence the GNote Community thread, with all tools and ROMs and extras...(btw I dont have a ROM, but I do have DD...daily driver for a ROM)
[REF&Road Map]{G-NSET}: Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717)
I will also be features Chef Ramsey dishes and the how to's....
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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xshaftx said:
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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good to go...no worries...
LOL
Hi everybody,
I want to know something.
I'm thinking about flashing Samsung's unofficial ROM with Android 4.2.1.
But, If I flash the 4.2.1-Firmware, can I revert to StockROM?
I heard many things about another Bootloader in this ROM, which is blocking a downgrade... Is it right??
Greeeetzz..
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Lots of people have flashed the leak, then gone back to a 4.1 because the leak has too many problems. Yes you can go back to stock if you wish, read the sticky thread in general for guides and video on how to do it.
As always, backup everything first - especially your efs partition.
Asking which ROM is better will just get your thread locked, go try a few ROMs for yourself - keep the results secret.
AW: [Q] Can I revert to StockROM?
boomboomer said:
Lots of people have flashed the leak, then gone back to a 4.1 because the leak has too many problems. Yes you can go back to stock if you wish, read the sticky thread in general for guides and video on how to do it.
As always, backup everything first - especially your efs partition.
Asking which ROM is better will just get your thread locked, go try a few ROMs for yourself - keep the results secret.
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Wow, is it really buggy? Then I would stay at CyanogenMod..
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yeah its really buggy! alot of FC and battery life is not as good as the 4.1.2 official one!
So I flashed paraniodandroid Rom for Verizon note.2. I did this mainly because of ota update and I was already rooted and didn't want to loose it.
My question is what are the differences between paraniodandroid and the stock ota?
How do I use the multi window function?
I used twrp to flash the Rom. Are there any roms that are nothing more than the stock ota with root?
simpson1190 said:
So I flashed paraniodandroid Rom for Verizon note.2. I did this mainly because of ota update and I was already rooted and didn't want to loose it.
My question is what are the differences between paraniodandroid and the stock ota?
How do I use the multi window function?
I used twrp to flash the Rom. Are there any roms that are nothing more than the stock ota with root?
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For the PA function explanation you will find all the answers in the PA thread or by doing a search on google and watching a video.
There are plenty of roms that are just the stock OTA or the stock OTA with a few changes. You might want to check Cleanrom or Beans out.
Just remember that you are on a 4.2 rom now and to go back to a 4.1 rom, beans and cleanrom, you will have to flash an additional zip after you flash your 4.1 rom. It is to revert the file stucture to the 4.1 file structure and if you dont use it your external SD WILL BE CORRUPTED. You can find the zip to revert your SD card in the Official CyanogenMod 10.1 OP.
You should also read thru Droidstyles guide that is a sticky in the Android Development forum.
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Can u send a link or more information about the SD card fix?
simpson1190 said:
Can u send a link or more information about the SD card fix?
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Dude its in the op of almost every aosp thread. Should we spoon feed you as well? If we always link it, you won't know how to do it on your own. Not being mean, this is intended to help teach you
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Wow you r so nice. Bet u got a lot of friends
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Dude its in the op of almost every aosp thread. Should we spoon feed you as well? If we always link it, you won't know how to do it on your own. Not being mean, this is intended to help teach you
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Wow you r so nice. Bet u got a lot of friends
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I just told you where to look. If you're so incompetent that you can't look in the rom thread which your using, then you shouldn't mod your phone. Quite the childish response by the way pal.
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Is there a way of going back to stock 4.1.2? I don't like the custom rom on my Note 2. I bought it off of CL and would like it stock. Thanks
Browse the forum, you'll find what you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock
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bmerrill63 said:
Browse the forum, you'll find what you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock
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Isn't that link for 4.1.1...If I'm not mistaken, if I try to flash from VRALL4, Odin will stop responding at s boot?
MyEntityRemains said:
Is there a way of going back to stock 4.1.2? I don't like the custom rom on my Note 2. I bought it off of CL and would like it stock. Thanks
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There is a stock rom in the development section. It would be a lot easier to just flash that versus going all the way back to a "factory stock"
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I believe these are better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
I did what you are looking to do with no problem. Make sure you have a PIT file and a good I605_VRALJB_Restore.tar.md5 file. After you get it back just keep updating the phone over the air (not wifi) and you will be all set.
AlanPototsky said:
I believe these are better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
I did what you are looking to do with no problem. Make sure you have a PIT file and a good I605_VRALJB_Restore.tar.md5 file. After you get it back just keep updating the phone over the air (not wifi) and you will be all set.
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Thanks. Just what I'm looking for.
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Thanks. Just what I'm looking for.
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Did you bother to browse the forums? Not to be a DB but you're literally already in the right forum to find the proper thread you need. In fact its the first sticky. Not to mention you ask this in Q&A. Questions and answers. Everything is "gimmie gimmie now" now a days. No more self-effort.
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Really? Don't wanna be a DB? Too late. I know I'm in the right section of the forum. As I said, I read if you tried to flash a stock rom with Odin, it would stop at S boot, if you already accepted the VRALL4 update. Not to be a DB, but I don't want a 5.5" boat anchor. I modified every smart phone I've ever owned, with most recent being the S3. I know Big Red screws with updates, so was getting feedback about going back to stock. If you don't want to help, fine. But don't chastise me for not wanting to bork my phone. Have a good evening.
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Had you read the sticky, or even the restore to stock thread, you'd be back on stock VRALL4 by now.
Hey guys. I am not from around here. You will normally find me hanging out in the Nexus forums. I need some help trying to correct an issue my noob buddy caused on his E970. He brought it to me today in a boot loop and apparently he rooted it an uninstalled some GAPPS and now he has this security error and BL. Now, so far I have managed to install the drivers..... that's it. I have worked on a variety of different devices but I am really having trouble with this. I think the issue is I can not find a thread that is comprehensive enough to explain what alot of the different tools are and what they do. I mean there is
1. LGNPST
2. Teenybin
3. Freegee or something like that
Then there about 14 different file types depending on the tool you are using. I have seen;
1. dll
2. bin
3. kdz
4. tot
I have to be honest with you guys this is confusing as hell. I keep coming across dead links and old downloads and stuff that may not work. I REALLY don't like using stuff not linked from XDA as that is all I've known for many years (not to say other sites aren't reputable but you never know) I can follow instructions and figure out most stuff on my own but due to the in completion of alot of this stuff and dead links I am kinda stuck I am gonna give it another go tomorrow but in the meantime if someone wants to drop me a link or word of advice as to where to at least start it would be awesome. I am pretty handy generally with this kind of thing but I guess that goes to show you sometimes you are only as good as the tools and directions you are working with. Thanks XDA Community! :good:
Okay the first three.
3.lgnpst is the program you will need to use to fix the security error which was caused by removing bloat without unlocking bootloader.
2.teenybin is used with lgnpst to unlock bootloader, update partitions to jb, and install recovery. It doesn't install firmware but could be used to restore if a rom was copied to sd to flash.
3.freegee is used to unlock bootloader and install recovery on a working phone.
Next four.
1.dll are files needed by windows.
2.bin is the extension the file needs to be for using lgnpst.
3.kdz is stock firmware for use with lgflashtool (used mainly for international phones)
4.tot is the extension the stock firmware is released with which will be renamed to bin before using lgnpst.
In the additional info section of teenbin thread there is a click to show content button that will have have links and guide for lgnpst. Use the tSilenzio version and it will register the DLL files on install.
Link to stock jb for use with lgnpst http://downloads.codefi.re/g33k3r/LGE970AT-01-V20j-310-410-MAR-08-2013.zip.
Link to teenybin thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230994.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lg-optimus-g link to irc for Optimus G.
adfurgerson said:
Okay the first three.
3.lgnpst is the program you will need to use to fix the security error which was caused by removing bloat without unlocking bootloader.
2.teenybin is used with lgnpst to unlock bootloader, update partitions to jb, and install recovery. It doesn't install firmware but could be used to restore if a rom was copied to sd to flash.
3.freegee is used to unlock bootloader and install recovery on a working phone.
Next four.
1.dll are files needed by windows.
2.bin is the extension the file needs to be for using lgnpst.
3.kdz is stock firmware for use with lgflashtool (used mainly for international phones)
4.tot is the extension the stock firmware is released with which will be renamed to bin before using lgnpst.
In the additional info section of teenbin thread there is a click to show content button that will have have links and guide for lgnpst. Use the tSilenzio version and it will register the DLL files on install.
Link to stock jb for use with lgnpst http://downloads.codefi.re/g33k3r/LGE970AT-01-V20j-310-410-MAR-08-2013.zip.
Link to teenybin thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230994.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I needed. Someone just to say "these are what these things are and what they do". I do have to admit I don't fault my buddy too much for soft bricking this thing as of all the devices I've rooted or flashed to this seems the most confusing. And also it's very odd that if you remove BW without first unlocking the bootloader you get this error..... Why can't they all just be as easy as a Nexus? Lol.
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jcnbama said:
Thank you. This is exactly what I needed. Someone just to say "these are what these things are and what they do". I do have to admit I don't fault my buddy too much for soft bricking this thing as of all the devices I've rooted or flashed to this seems the most confusing. And also it's very odd that if you remove BW without first unlocking the bootloader you get this error..... Why can't they all just be as easy as a Nexus? Lol.
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A few other things that may help.
1.lgnpst is a pain with windows 8
2.it will not work with USB 3.0
3.be sure to right click lgnpst exe and run as admin
I got my OG right after release but had already been following forum, and would hate to have to jump in now and try to figure things out.
adfurgerson said:
A few other things that may help.
1.lgnpst is a pain with windows 8
2.it will not work with USB 3.0
3.be sure to right click lgnpst exe and run as admin
I got my OG right after release but had already been following forum, and would hate to have to jump in now and try to figure things out.
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Well its especially difficult when someone just brings you a phone and you've never even seen it booted up and you don't know all the weird quirky rules it has (like if you uninstall GAPPS without unlocking the bootloader then you get a bootloop.) lol Otherwise it seems like a solid phone. It has almost the same specs as my Nexus 4.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067871
This link is for a flashable zip of rooted stock jb. If you used the teenybin files with lgnpst then flashed it with recovery the end result would be stock rom with unlocked bootloader, root, and custom recovery.
adfurgerson said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067871
This link is for a flashable zip of rooted stock jb. If you used the teenybin files with lgnpst then flashed it with recovery the end result would be stock rom with unlocked bootloader, root, and custom recovery.
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Thanka I will look into this.! :thumbup:
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Real quick.... So once I've got everything back to stock and get the boot loader unlocked.. Will I then be able to modify system stuff, uninstall bloat etc and avoid that evil security error boot loop?
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jcnbama said:
Real quick.... So once I've got everything back to stock and get the boot loader unlocked.. Will I then be able to modify system stuff, uninstall bloat etc and avoid that evil security error boot loop?
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Yes, once you're unlocked & rooted you will be good to go. I would recommend flashing an established rom and installing the GApps that are recommended. It would be a lot more convenient and less of a hassle.
Make sure you are using TWRP, CWM was causing bugs with flashing of some roms. Hope this helps.
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Yes, once you're unlocked & rooted you will be good to go. I would recommend flashing an established rom and installing the GApps that are recommended. It would be a lot more convenient and less of a hassle.
Make sure you are using TWRP, CWM was causing bugs with flashing of some roms. Hope this helps.
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Awesome and once I've flashed a good rom. Would that then circumvent any future boatloads caused by modifications etc.? So in other words are those proprietary (catches) cooked out when the devs set up a rom? I would imagine so. I know most of us folks hate that kinda thing... Lol
BTW any tips on a good solid stable Jelly Bean Rom? Would want it to be pretty stable since it's not my phone... Lol
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This noob is a lucky guy to have you to help him out in his time of need. That is the awesome thing about the XDA community
Panicing67 said:
This noob is a lucky guy to have you to help him out in his time of need. That is the awesome thing about the XDA community
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Indeeeeeeed plus I'm gonna make him come and take down my Christmas lights after the holidays....
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Sounds like a fair deal. You do have a Griswold set up do you from national lampoons Christmas do you
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Hey thanks again everyone! Got the phone fixed. A stock AT&T 4.1.2 Rom on there and root privileges intact. Everything is good to go. I actually kinda like the phone a lot.... I really want an LG G2..... Oooh yeah... Thanks again everyone and maybe some one will find the instructions in this thread helpful.
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