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Sorry for asking a noob question, but I just wanna get things clear.
Currently my SGS2 is rooted (just rooted) and is on the stock rom. We all know ICS for SGS2 will be released pretty soon so, once I have updated my phone to the new ICS, will my phone be unrooted ?
Also will I be able to OTA update while rooted?
Thanks for the help
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JohnBonchie said:
Sorry for asking a noob question, but I just wanna get things clear.
Currently my SGS2 is rooted (just rooted) and is on the stock rom. We all know ICS for SGS2 will be released pretty soon so, once I have updated my phone to the new ICS, will my phone be unrooted ?
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Unless the ICS ROM you install is pre-rooted, in all likelihood, yes, you will lose root.
JohnBonchie said:
Also will I be able to OTA update while rooted?
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I'm not sure OTA is even implemented... but if you're just rooted, that shouldn't affect your ability to use OTA if it's there.
Thanks for quick reply.
One more question, once if I've updated to ICS, i do have to wait for the new files before the ICS can be rooted right? I just can't use the same files and method that I used before to get my phone rooted? Correct me if I'm wrong
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JohnBonchie said:
Thanks for quick reply.
One more question, once if I've updated to ICS, i do have to wait for the new files before the ICS can be rooted right? I just can't use the same files and method that I used before to get my phone rooted? Correct me if I'm wrong
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Yes - do NOT use the same files and method. At best, it just won't work. At worst, you will cause huge issues with your phone.
If you are talking about updating via Kies then yes you will loose root.Also OTA.To re-root you can use the CF-Root method as before as long as you match the root kernel with your stock kernel.OTA updates work if you are rooted but dont work if you have a custom ROM installed.
cooza said:
If you are talking about updating via Kies then yes you will loose root.Also OTA.To re-root you can use the CF-Root method as before as long as you match the root kernel with your stock kernel.OTA updates work if you are rooted but dont work if you have a custom ROM installed.
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MUCH more specific than my answers, and less confusing. I suck. Thx on behalf of OP.
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MUCH more specific than my answers, and less confusing. I suck. Thx on behalf of OP.
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HA,HA Mate its after midnight and I cant sleep so I thought Id post something....Im bored
thanks for the info. Now I'm patiently(LOL) waiting for the official release of ICS
JohnBonchie said:
thanks for the info. Now I'm patiently(LOL) waiting for the official release of ICS
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_and_galaxy_note_to_get_ics_in_march-news-3752.php
I know that official ICS will be released next month but I want to try it now. I'm thinkin of flashin the latest leaked rom for ICS but just one question, if flash it through RomManager will my 'root' disappear?
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JohnBonchie said:
I know that official ICS will be released next month but I want to try it now. I'm thinkin of flashin the latest leaked rom for ICS but just one question, if flash it through RomManager will my 'root' disappear?
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Flashing any new firmware, unless that new firmware comes rooted, yes, you will lose root. And though it's your choice to try a leaked ICS, just be aware - anything out at this point, as stated is a LEAK. (i.e. NO guarantees as to stability)
I for one, do not plan on going anywhere near an ICS ROM until official ICS is released by Samsung somewhere, for a ROM chef to use as a base.
thanks for the response. Currently, I'm pretty bored with my current stock rom and would like to try something new even for just a month or so. Would you recommend me a stable rom or a rom that you personally use or the one that you are using right now ?
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JohnBonchie said:
thanks for the response. Currently, I'm pretty bored with my current stock rom and would like to try something new even for just a month or so. Would you recommend me a stable rom or a rom that you personally use or the one that you are using right now ?
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Stable for one person is not stable for another. Only way to know for you is to back your phone up and try yourself.
That said, I'm on stock KI3, with some modding done myself. No themes, though. I don't need all that flash.
Love your well explained answers. Once again thanks for you help
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I think the easiest way to keep root is to use Mobile Odin with EverRoot option enabled. This will root the phone during the flashing.
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
myke nytemare said:
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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Root with odin like you would on gb but on ICS. Just try the cm9 roms though, it will change your life
You do not need to downgrade to GB to root. What you need to do is boot the phone into download mode, and use Odin to flash a custom recovery (such as CWM). Once you have the custom recovery flashed, you can boot into recovery mode and flash the Superuser or Supersu zip file to give you root. Using this method is the most foolproof way.
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and, you would get better answers if you would post a question in the Q&A thread, not in general...
Look in the custom rom section of this loser's thread...he is such a loser...make sure you flame the hell out of him, but here is his link....
go the custom rom section...you will the awesome ics offical already root...and debloated, and one thread has the pure virgin stock ics ....blah blah blah....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
myke nytemare said:
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Me tooo...
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i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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jpoirier587 said:
Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Think he was kidding...I think...LOL, and I try to promote all...hence the GNote Community thread, with all tools and ROMs and extras...(btw I dont have a ROM, but I do have DD...daily driver for a ROM)
[REF&Road Map]{G-NSET}: Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717)
I will also be features Chef Ramsey dishes and the how to's....
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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xshaftx said:
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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good to go...no worries...
LOL
I just got the Note today, and I have the GSIII. I am testing them both out. I was told rooting the Note and installing recovery was super easy but there are like 15 guides and I don't know how to root this thing.
I need a guide, and then maybe some suggestions to good ROM's once I actually figure out how to root.
Any help is appreciated.
Go to this website. Www.rootgalaxynote.com and find the section for the i717. He lays out everything and give all the necessary files.
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1. Install USB Drivers
2. Flash ClockworkMod Based Touch Recovery (Odin) with Odin
3. Flash Superuser from ClockworkMod recovery
Optimizer said:
I just got the Note today, and I have the GSIII. I am testing them both out. I was told rooting the Note and installing recovery was super easy but there are like 15 guides and I don't know how to root this thing.
I need a guide, and then maybe some suggestions to good ROM's once I actually figure out how to root.
Any help is appreciated.
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First ensure you have th i717 Note by ATT, just saying due to users from the N7000 have mistakenly come here.
Go here to see all the lists of what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
It will require some homework on your part, but the threads are very easy to follow, just read, ok
do you have ICS on your phone now, have you done the latest Officially update to ICS? If so then there is section on the Super page to point you where to go to root...ok
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tmb993 said:
Go to this website. Www.rootgalaxynote.com and find the section for the i717. He lays out everything and give all the necessary files.
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Sir, why send the user out of the threads when all info/files/ help is right here in our threads, just asking....this page has all required, well just about all...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
bigjoe2675 said:
First ensure you have th i717 Note by ATT, just saying due to users from the N7000 have mistakenly come here.
Go here to see all the lists of what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
It will require some homework on your part, but the threads are very easy to follow, just read, ok
do you have ICS on your phone now, have you done the latest Officially update to ICS? If so then there is section on the Super page to point you where to go to root...ok
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Gosh thank you all for replying so fast, I thanked all of you.
No it is still on GB, I haven't done the kies ICS update. I would figure rooting in GB would lose root when I upgraded to ICs and then I would have to repeat the entire process.
I am just so confused lol
Optimizer said:
Gosh thank you all for replying so fast, I thanked all of you.
No it is still on GB, I haven't done the kies ICS update. I would figure rooting in GB would lose root when I upgraded to ICs and then I would have to repeat the entire process.
I am just so confused lol
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Yes you will lose root. do the ICS update then root.
Optimizer said:
Gosh thank you all for replying so fast, I thanked all of you.
No it is still on GB, I haven't done the kies ICS update. I would figure rooting in GB would lose root when I upgraded to ICs and then I would have to repeat the entire process.
I am just so confused lol
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yes you would lose root and all...when updating to ICS, but the rooting is very easy for the ics, as someone posted he provide you the files and means to odin cwm and then flash the super user file, and your rooted...that how easy it is on the ICS to root it, but someone else pointed out to a website...can not say much about I stay here in the XDA site but that is your call.
look and read thru the super page and if you have questions just ask lots of help around here...
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
If I update to ICS, will this method work or is there an easier method?
bigjoe2675 said:
yes you would lose root and all...when updating to ICS, but the rooting is very easy for the ics, as someone posted he provide you the files and means to odin cwm and then flash the super user file, and your rooted...that how easy it is on the ICS to root it, but someone else pointed out to a website...can not say much about I stay here in the XDA site but that is your call.
look and read thru the super page and if you have questions just ask lots of help around here...
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okay I am going to update to ICS..... can you provide me the link for what I have to do? Sorry I am being such a noob lol.
Thanked again, and again after this lol
I kept root after ics update
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Optimizer said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
If I update to ICS, will this method work or is there an easier method?
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Yes this method will work.
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Honestly I just suggest flashing an ICS custom ROM. Easier than kies, and better anyways.
If you want to try out the "stock ICS" feel, look no further than here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
that will still have smemo and all the stock widgets and launcher. It's just de-bloated, deodexed, and rooted. It's pretty much like stock on steroids.
If you don't care about the stock feel or the spen or touchwiz stuff, try anything else out there. Lots of good ROMs, all better than stock through kies.
I'm currently running rasroygbiv's Gubment Cheeze, a CM9 based ROM, and it's awesome. Haven't had an ounce of lag, and I've been testing it for quite a while now, before it was released here. Highly recommended that you at least try it if you like the whole CM9 thing.
And for your gs3, look for Nunhugger's Triune, it's a stockish debloated rooted ROM and he's doing some sweet things theming stock touchwiz.
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I'm curious about something regarding the newer ROMs in the dev forum. Why do so many of the newer ROMs coming out insist that you have to be on the JB OTA before flashing? I'm familiar with flashing on other phones where you just wipe and flash, and move on with life. Does this have to do with the radio/modem? And if that's the case, could you not just flash the ROM and then a modem? I'm just trying to get some clarification stemming from genuine confusion.
Not really sure but could it maybe have something to do with the trust/compatibility deal thing?? Idk I was wondering the same question in op. By no means is this the answer I was just throwing this out there. Hopefully someone can shed some light.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229568
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No, that link did clear it up. Not sure how I missed it before, but whatever. Seems to be a security feature for the newer ROMs, if I read that post correctly.
Its not just a security feature, but that's the gist of it. Adam Outler explains it http://www.xda-developers.com/android/trustzone-a-dimension-of-multiple-worlds/ .
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I'm curious about something regarding the newer ROMs in the dev forum. Why do so many of the newer ROMs coming out insist that you have to be on the JB OTA before flashing? I'm familiar with flashing on other phones where you just wipe and flash, and move on with life. Does this have to do with the radio/modem? And if that's the case, could you not just flash the ROM and then a modem? I'm just trying to get some clarification stemming from genuine confusion.
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No, its the tz partition that is only changed throught the OTA/LGNSPTing that is needed. I'm not quite sure of all the specifics, but this tz partition is what you need to flash these new roms.
Excellent explanation, much thanks. Quick follow up question now... Once the OTA update is done, is that more or less permanent for the purposes of ROM flashing? In other words, does the phone have to be put back to stock every time I want to change ROMs?
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You only need to do it would once. Once the tz is put in place it stays, unless you lgnpst to the n4 conversion or to ICS. Flashing a ROM in recovery won't change it.
Beautiful. That's what I figured, but better to ask before bricking my phone. Thanks again.
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C2fifield said:
No, its the tz partition that is only changed throught the OTA/LGNSPTing that is needed. I'm not quite sure of all the specifics, but this tz partition is what you need to flash these new roms.
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Nice. Thank u for clarification. Much appreciated.
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So I flashed one of these roms,Vanilla rootbox to be exact. Can I now flash any of these newer roms or do i need to go back to the stock 4.1.2 before flashing another one of these roms?
taormania said:
So I flashed one of these roms,Vanilla rootbox to be exact. Can I now flash any of these newer roms or do i need to go back to the stock 4.1.2 before flashing another one of these roms?
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Standard "I'm not a developer but..." disclaimer here. You can either revert to the stock ICS build and get the OTA update, then re-root/unlock, or I seem to remember a flashable stock 4.1.2 zip file in the development section that is supposed to take care of the TZ stuff to let you move on with life.
Feel free to correct me if that's not good information, though.
aaronius said:
Standard "I'm not a developer but..." disclaimer here. You can either revert to the stock ICS build and get the OTA update, then re-root/unlock, or I seem to remember a flashable stock 4.1.2 zip file in the development section that is supposed to take care of the TZ stuff to let you move on with life.
Feel free to correct me if that's not good information, though.
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I already lngpost-ed to the 4.1.2 and then rooted and then flashed one of these newer roms. My question is really can I go from one of these roms to another without going back to the stock 4.1.2 and rooting again?
That is my understanding. Once you have the TrustZone partition set up from the stock JB, it's there and you don't have to mess with it again. Unless you do something that kills it, like go back to an ICS rom.
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aaronius said:
That is my understanding. Once you have the TrustZone partition set up from the stock JB, it's there and you don't have to mess with it again. Unless you do something that kills it, like go back to an ICS rom.
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Sweet. Thanks for the help. I'll post back if for some reason it does not work
Good question OP, I was wondering the same thing and this LGNPST thing is confusing.
So, I am currently running SnowJB (which I believe is 4.1.2?)
Do I need to do the LGPNST in order to install these newer ROMs, such as Vanilla Rootbox? Or am I all set to go ahead and flash new ROM?
To anyone confused, ask yourself...
Did you receive the 4.1.2 (JB) update over the air OR did you use lgnpst to flash to 4.1.2?
If yes, then you can begin flashing as usual without having to lgnpst every time you change ROMs.
If you haven't used one of these methods then you need to do one first before flashing the new ROMs.
Simple as that.
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TangoXray said:
To anyone confused, ask yourself...
Did you receive the 4.1.2 (JB) update over the air OR did you use lgnpst to flash to 4.1.2?
If yes, then you can begin flashing as usual without having to lgnpst every time you change ROMs.
If you haven't used one of these methods then you need to do one first before flashing the new ROMs.
Simple as that.
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Nuff said. Couldn't b any clearer . Thanks:thumbup::thumbup:
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hı guys.urgent need to stock recovery and stock kernel.
No one will help I ask why I'm having trouble backing my stock up and got a smart a** answer !
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011243
The first 2 links in the op have everything you need
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pgag said:
No one will help I ask why I'm having trouble backing my stock up and got a smart a** answer !
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If you mean this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42584606
That was hardly a smart response, I was stating truth, the issue you asked about that I responded to was true, if you didn't create the partition then the error is normal.
I could give you one if you'd like, like "Go Google how to use a recovery."
If you considered what I said as being smart xda will eat you alive.
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jamiethemorris said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011243
The first 2 links in the op have everything you need
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Thanks.But links not works :crying:
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If you mean this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42584606
That was hardly a smart response, I was stating truth, the issue you asked about that I responded to was true, if you didn't create the partition then the error is normal.
I could give you one if you'd like, like "Go Google how to use a recovery."
If you considered what I said as being smart xda will eat you alive.
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My problem is I can not install the original rom.
How many rom I tried WiFi did not work. That's why I want to install the original rom
Edit: boot.img loading.
did you find stock rom and kernal?
You can also try just flashing this in recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40665377 closer to stock 2.06 then any others out there.
Basically though what you're looking for is the ruu. I think there's a guide in development for how to ruu back to stock.
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did you find stock rom and kernal?
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Not find
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41794741
Back to 100% stock.
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try this site out stockroms.net then use xda forums to find instructions on how to put your new stock firmware and kernal you will need odin and also i would like to recommend a toolkit from mskip just type his name in xda search box i have his pro version toolkit and it works wonders i will continue to search for ideas because i am having same issue hope this helps i am just learning how to do all this so i am super new lol
ThunderFucdk said:
try this site out stockroms.net then use xda forums to find instructions on how to put your new stock firmware and kernal you will need odin and also i would like to recommend a toolkit from mskip just type his name in xda search box i have his pro version toolkit and it works wonders i will continue to search for ideas because i am having same issue hope this helps i am just learning how to do all this so i am super new lol
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Odin is a Samsung thing, isn't it? Like I recall its use on the gs2 but never seen it used on anything non Samsung, could be wrong though.
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You are right odin and odin mobile pro are designed for samsung ROM development on Android sorry about that
If you want stock, flash a stock rooted ROM. If you want true stock (no S-Off and locked, stock recovery) follow the guide Pio linked too.