As soon as the phones notifies me that I reached 10%, its like I've actually reached 1%. The phone shuts down 1-2mins after stating I'm at 0%. This happen with no battery hungry running apps. Is it a common problem? Did someone find a fix?
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As soon as the phones notifies me that I reached 10%, its like I've actually reached 1%. The phone shuts down 1-2mins after stating I'm at 0%. This happen with no battery hungry running apps. Is it a common problem? Did someone find a fix?
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battery % display is not exact in general
This happens to me on all my devices. It's a pain in the ass but I guess you learn to live with it.
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Had it from the first day I had my X+ and mentioned it a couple of times in the battery topic. At those times it seemed that I was the only one with that problem. This sudden death comes in somewhere between 8-18% left. Sometimes it shuts down the very same moment the 8% battery left pop-up shows.
I am going to send my device in for warranty this week..
Edit: Phone is at the service center ATM. Fingers crossed..
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They installed a new battery which fixed it all Battery percentage is very very linear now.
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Doesn't happen on my Desire HD with ParanoidAndroid on the same version as my One X+, and this kind of thing does happen on the X+. As soon as it gets to about 10% it starts going down really really quickly. Sometimes it goes directly from 5% to 0%, I've watched.
Often, at low battery, a full reboot (reboot to bootloader and then boot from there, rather than a hot reboot) will fix it.
Would really suck if this is a hardware issue as it would be terribly inconvenient to get it fixed.
A lot of times it's that the battery controller hardware in the actual battery doesn't know exactly where 0% is. so it estimates until it's been fully drained once or twice. but fully draining isn't super good for lithium batteries, so it's not always worth bothering with. just know "I'm getting wicked low and should probably charge".
Also, remaining capacity is usually inferred from the voltage the battery is providing, if I remember right. because powering the screen, radio, camera, etc takes a more or less static amount of voltage to operate, as the pool gets lower (as the battery discharges) it becomes increasingly more difficult to accurately represent the amount of charge left since each individual component takes up a larger percent of the remaining pool than it did when the battery was fully charged. When the battery is super low, it can appear to have 10% left when relatively idle, but if you try to snap a picture or play a youtube video (data/decode/etc. components being used), this can cause the available voltage to drop suddenly as those systems are engaged.
Rule of thumb, the lower your battery gets the less accurate the % remaining actually is, since you're not using up units of power that are all being held in a battery shaped tank. it's a dynamic environment of volts and amps that humans want to see represented in a single unit (percentage).
Obviously there's a lot of analogy in there, but I hope that makes sense
This has always happened to me on my One X+, but doesn't seem to happen as bad on my Nexus 4 or 7, but if I reboot either with a low battery this number drops a lot. It seems as if my Nexus devices just adjust the number durring usage better, perhaps dropping the percentage faster to catch up with the actual capacity, the One X+ just seems to stay on the high side until it dies.
It's those small things that make me a bit frustrated. My girlfriend's got a galaxy s3. Yesterday while having 7% battery left she downloaded can knockdown 3, we played for a few minutes and it dropped to 5%
Then I did the same thing, downloaded ck3, and played two levels and it went from 17% to dead in less than 5 minutes. And the game ran smoother on her phone.
Come on HTC!
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It's those small things that make me a bit frustrated. My girlfriend's got a galaxy s3. Yesterday while having 7% battery left she downloaded can knockdown 3, we played for a few minutes and it dropped to 5%
Then I did the same thing, downloaded ck3, and played two levels and it went from 17% to dead in less than 5 minutes. And the game ran smoother on her phone.
Come on HTC!
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It also seems like an HTC specific issue to me. On some level all devices have a form of this issue, but it's never as pervasive as with my One X+.
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Okay so battery life on this phone in my opinion is okay. On average I get 12 hours and my phone is completely dead however when I go to battery usage (even if I don't use the phone alot) display is always above 50% -80% I'm not sure why this is so high when i don't keep the screen on that much and i have the brightness completely off. Could this be the culprit of my battery dying faster than it should? I usually send over 300 texts daily about an hour of internet and 30 mins of browsing xda while having auto sync and background data on.
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The display is the primary thing that is putting the hurt on the battery. It is not the culprit for causing any problems.
The usage percentage shows what percentage of the battery particular things use. The items listed will always add up to 100. It doesn't mean your screen is killing your battery, just that its the highest consumer which it always will be. Depending on what you do with your phone, 50-80% seems about right considering anything you do on your phone requires the screen being on.
The display takes the most usage
76%. Seems normal to me.
mine always uses 70-80% of my battery
i say that's excessive high when all the other stuff it lists that use the battery take up only 1% or 2% each at the end of a charge
but folks say high usage is normal
Yeah never under 60].
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Yeah high display in all my family android devices.
Wife's HTC Hero rooted CM7
Daughter's Samsung Epic Stock Froyo
and My HTC Evo 4G rooted (happen on every rom available custom or stock)
I'm starting to think that high display is normal across most android devices IMHO.
I'm ALWAYS around 76% for my display. But like others have said when everything you do on it involves you turning the phone ON plus navigating through everything, and then view it makes sense. Want to watch it drop? Listen to Google Music, for a bout 6 straight hours. Screen shuts off but you finally use something more than the screen. but even by doing that the display still was #1 usage for me.
Mine is only at 43%.
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That's normal. Trust me. The screen takes so much of the battery, that in the time it's off, the other parts of the system can't catch up in terms of battery use... That's why some people can get standby times of 3+ days on their OG Evos, it's cause they don't ever turn the screen on.
On my phone, I've had the screen on for 10 min 39 seconds out of 5 hours 51 minutes, its at 42% and my battery is at 88%...
That means in 10 minutes and 39 seconds, my screen by itself drained about 5% of my battery, and it took the rest of the system almost 6 more hours to drain another 7% off while I was sleeping. (Note, I have auto brightness cause I ain't scared of plugging my phone in a lot.)
The 70% you are all seeing doesn't mean the phone's screen was on 70% of the time, it just means that 70% of your battery drain is the screens fault... Try this: When you charge your phone next, and the stats reset, unplug it and play with it for half an hour or so without turning the screen. Your display will show about 95% at the end of it depending on your brightness.
Could be just me but I tried Juice Defender and had the same problem and was eating through the battery. Display was 70-80. Uninstalled JD and it dropped to around 50 and I am getting close to 20 hours on a charge. Maybe it was a fluke but if your on JD try uninstalling it.
I've never seen anything this high on the evo 4g - except when using the tmartin leaked "official" GB that had the kernel bug that caused the brightness to be on 100% brightness all the time.
On CM6, CM7, Synergy, Fresh, Stock, Mik, ... none had this high utilization (or ANYWHERE near it!)
Maybe the higher resolution leads to more interpixel matrix plus the parallax barrier necessitating higher LED power for the same brightness?
This really seems normal to all you people?
Yeah it's ridiculously high on 3vo. I don't think I ever saw my display exceed 10% in my og evo, but on the 3vo it always is over 50%.
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I've never seen anything this high on the evo 4g - except when using the tmartin leaked "official" GB that had the kernel bug that caused the brightness to be on 100% brightness all the time.
On CM6, CM7, Synergy, Fresh, Stock, Mik, ... none had this high utilization (or ANYWHERE near it!)
Maybe the higher resolution leads to more interpixel matrix plus the parallax barrier necessitating higher LED power for the same brightness?
This really seems normal to all you people?
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I imagine that on the Evo 4g, some of the display usage was actually rendered under "android system" usage which was higher than it is now on the 3D. It all balances out in the end...
why would there be a difference in allocating display vs. system between [email protected] stock vs. [email protected], 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.3.4 ... under any of those on the 4vo, I never saw anything above about 10-20% nominal... (again, except for tmartin et al. with brightness bug).
When I had my EVO 4G, the display usage.was always.less than 20%, no matter how much my display was on. As soon as I flashed a 2.3.3 Rom to my evo4g,.the display usage went up to 70% or above, no matter how much I used it. I could have the screen off for 10 hours and it would still be in over 70%. I notice the exact same trend on my 3d. No matter what, the display usage is high. This never happened on froyo with the original EVO. I think its just something to do with how GB calculates the percentages. I don't care what anyone says, display shouldn't be over 70% if I have.the screen off 95% of the day (which has happened).
As someone else noted, I first noticed this on 2.3.3 on the EVO, with tmartins first GB build of the leaked build, and that has continued with every 2.3.3 build I've used. I think its a 2.3.3 issue.
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alot of us may be used to the original evo 4g display percent, which has always been flat wrong until gingerbread.
go look at most any other android phone and you will find the display is almost always the highest percent drain.
Lol not sure what happened here.
I left my phone off charge to take a shower at 60%, came out and it was 20%?
Im on MIUI Rom 1.11.11
Is it just bad calibration or something?
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Lol not sure what happened here.
I left my phone off charge to take a shower at 60%, came out and it was 20%?
Im on MIUI Rom 1.11.11
Is it just bad calibration or something?
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Did you also see a significant drop in raw battery voltage?
Most likely the fuel gauge just glitched or reset. 40% in 20 minutes = 2 amperes drain, our device simply can't pull THAT much current, not even close.
Does if really equate to that much? I have seen a few cross ROM battery complaints ND I'm pointing my finger at the Facebook app
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Fastest ive had mine drain down is when I left PocketCloud logged into a VNC session. It will run it down close to that fast.
Ya, Id take it off teh charger, reboot and see what it says after that.
When I was running CyanogenMod 7 this would happen all of the time to me. My battery would be at 98% and then suddenly after about 5 min, it would read 50%. I'm not really sure what caused this, but CyanogenMod 7 is the only ROM that I have had this issue with.
I'm now running Miui and I haven't ran across this issue yet.
I did read that calibrating your battery should solve this issue though.
Possibly similar to what a few of us encountered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325164
It had to have been pretty hot to draw that much current that quickly. It's a 1650mAh battery. It will provide 1.65A for an hour from fully-charged, until it is discharged. You lost 40% in, say 15 minutes. That's 160% in an hour. Or about a 2.6A rate. Nearly 10 Watts. Sammy spec's a 9 hour talk time rating on 3G. By comparison, this means normal battery usage during a phone call is about 0.18A. Think about how warm the phone gets during a call, and compare that to how warm it'd have to get if you were sucking juice at 14x the normal rate.
If it wasn't really hot, IMO, either there's something wrong with the battery or your issue is "cockpit error".
Minds did the same thing today. I think it was from a old theme I applied.
After the theme was converted my phone started acting funny.
The screen started to lag
Phone got extremely hot without even being touched, just laying on my bed.
Phone kept rebooting
I didn't have any of these issues until I added the theme
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Minds did the same thing today. I think it was from a old theme I applied.
After the theme was converted my phone started acting funny.
The screen started to lag
Phone got extremely hot without even being touched, just laying on my bed.
Phone kept rebooting
I didn't have any of these issues until I added the theme
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It did happen to me too, I just added a new theme (GOlauncher app) and the phone has started to get hot without using it, and the battery goes down very fast.
I've had the HTC One X+ for a week now and it's a really good phone, however, the battery really lets it down. The battery drain is terrible on my phone. The phone is really good in sleep mode, only losing about 2% in 1 hour, but as soon as it's not in sleep mode, as soon as you start to use the phone, the battery drains like hell. For example, when I'm web surfing or using applications, it loses 1% like every 2 minutes and that's crazy!
I don't know why, power saver is on, switched to 2G instead of 3G, disabled Google Now, auto-sync, basically everything I think would drain the battery. Brightness is on it's minimum. I feel so restricted when using my phone! But I've read other people having really good battery life even with moderate use, so am I doing something wrong? Should I factory reset my phone? Is there something wrong with my phone? Can someone help me?
Thanks!!
Have you disabled all AT&T apps? They drain battery as hell especially ATT locker.
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Under Settings/Sounds/Ring Tone untick the three options as they just have the sensors constantly checking, then under Settings/Power untick Fastboot.
Then get a battery monitor app like GSam Battery Monitor which pinpoints the power drainer. How many apps do you have installed? Dump the ones you hardly ever use.
Also, several charge/discharge cycles are necessary before battery reaches best performance.
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I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
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I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
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2% isn't bad. You crazy.
My phone's battery life is really good and keeps improving with more usage. I do not however, expect more than a few hours of gaming.
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Won't lie i got the same problem you are facing right now. The battery life is horrible, in fact it only lasts about 3-4 hours gaming if i am lucky. Before 5 minutes i opened a game called "dead trigger" my battery was 94% after 5 minutes of playing guess what? BOOM 89% straight which is extremely bad from my point of view.
You know, you do have screen with a high resolution, and you're using the max of the graphic and other chips while gaming...and that costs power...most likely NFC is active, as is BT, 4G, brightness on 200%, the loudspeaker blearing some music out of the cloud, GPS on, and 15 apps not closed properly, weather syncing every 5 secs, and 700 apps installed from Happy Santa to FakeYourPhone!
I really can't get it that you complain about it. It is a mobile smartphone that can be used to play games. If your priority lies with the latter, have a charger handy with you! Play, enjoy, and stop moaning...Period!
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Bad Battery Drain as well
I'm going to tack onto this thread. I got the HTC One X+ about a week 1/2 ago. The phone is amazing. It has everything I want, but I cannot make it through the day once without always consciously thinking about battery drain and how quickly the phone just sucks down the power. The following Battery Monitor graph is when I have JuiceDefender installed so it turns off the data radio whenever the screen is off or I'm connected to WiFi. I was on WiFi from 7:45 this morning all the way to 5:00pm. The drain on this thing is so fast. I didn't watch a single video today nor any games. This is all facebook data, internet data, and just some general playing on the phone. I also turn on the power save feature for Jelly bean so I turned off vibration feedback, brightness is turned down, and CPU saving is turned on.
Do I have a dud phone or is the One X+ really that awful on the battery? I'm strongly considering taking it back but every single other thing about the phone is great but if the battery on every One X+ is that bad I don't know if it's worth it. Please help assuage my fears or give me some advice on what I can do better.
Do you have Google now active?
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You have WiFi, lte, and I'm assuming other radios on. Curious to see what other apps you're running in the background.
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Do you have Google now active?
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I do. I kind of thought it was one of the neater parts of Jelly Bean. Is it a complete battery hog? This is my 1st android phone but I'm a long time Smartphone owner. I'm guessing by your question I should disable it and see how the battery performs.
It is an LTE phone though i'm on wifi 90% of my day. Background apps that run are usually Whatsapp, Facebook, and Linkedin. Right now I'm losing about 2% charge every 10 minutes if I'm using it. I gotta plug the thing in as much as I can just so I can use it. I'm perfectly fine with tweaking the thing, just not sure how much 'tweaking' is needed to get some better performance out of the things.
I'm wondering if Facebook is the problem... Just a thought...
The One X+ isnt that bad in terms of battery life in my experience, I've done 15.5 hours with 2.5 hours screen on time, Not sure what folks are expecting, Thats pretty average for a smartphone... That is with Wi-Fi on, LTE on, Google Now on, Autosync on, the little weather widgety clock thing on.. and pretty much me not doing anything besides closing apps when im done with it, I have Kik messanger and TextPlus on in the background but they arent doing much to my battery life... I dont use the power saver until it toggles at 15% battery life, I have vibration on, and my brightness is fixed at like 33% constantly... I have every ATT app disabled in the app thing.. I also have the "best Wi-Fi performance" thing ticked which says it might use more battery...
Yes, Gaming and watching videos on the thing is going to drain the battery out fast, Just like every smartphone I've ever owned... Its better than my GSM Nexus with the stock battery (Its roughly halfway between the stock battery and the extended one) and better than the S3 I had very briefly (However I will note the S3 couldnt keep a signal at all whereas my One X+ can...) The conversion seems to be that you trade about 2 hours standby time for 30 minutes of screen-on usage in my case
Picture 1 is me using my phone normally in a day.. 15.5 hours is more than enough (I'd say i get closer to 13 or 14 average) with 2.5 hours of screen on time
Picture 2 was me basically doing nothing but watching Youtube and playing games this morning... its really not all that bad, the biggest consumer/ battery hog for me is Mediaserver for some reason, I'm not actually 100% sure why (I know what it is...) or if i could pull even better battery life if there is something actually wrong with it and its draining my battery excessively... But I'm not complaining about it because well.. this was me abusing my phone pretty much
Not arguing that some folks are getting rubbish battery life, Because they are, I'm actually more curious as to whats causing it, There has to be something here and some way to fix it
Follow up to yesterday's battery
Ok in the attachment is my usage today. As you can see it is totally what I would expect from the phone. I got it to that point by disabling Google Now. That kind of stinks however, I can actually use my phone without being nearby an electrical outlet all the time. The other thing that works well is how much cooler it is to the touch under normal use. Normally it was quite hot. I work in a basement(3 bars with LTE) so my guess is Google Now was always trying to utilize location (even if it wasn't immediately obvious) on the screen via the indicator and thus would just kill my battery especially when I would pick it up to use it with the screen. I wish I could use Google Now but perhaps I can slowly bring back some of it's abilities and find a happy medium.
I'd also like to make note that I am still utilizing the power saving features for Jelly Bean along with JuiceDefender.
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
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No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Sounds more in line with what im getting... Though i have Google Now on... Weird.. Very weird
GSam is a bit nicer and free FYI so you might wanna give it a look
how much playback time should I be getting for 720p mp4 files? My phone drains about 10% every 20 minutes with power save on, auto sync and all wireless radios off and minimum brightness, I am quite disappointed, is this normal drain?
I had to open my big mouth, Now my One X+ has developed a little problem It wont enter Deep Sleep so yeah... now the battery life isnt terribly great
You guys might wanna check that your phone is entering deep sleep and not getting held awake by something, because now im seeing similar drain to you guys...
Very new issue though, Weird... I uninstalled an app I felt might have caused it and ill see if that fixes it, Currently recharging my One X+ to reset the counters and everything...
According to BBM, It appears to be my Wi-Fi keeping the phone awake for some reason... Next step if the uninstallation doesnt fix things will be to disable Wi-Fi and see if that changes anything
Hi All
I have had my HTC One X+ for roughly 3 weeks now and just recently I noticed the phone reaching a very hot temperature, I have not measured exactly but it is significantly hotter than I have ever noticed since owning the handset. I don't use it that heavily i.e. for games etc and only charge it when the battery is less than 20%, I have not needed to have the power saving setting turned on because the battery life suited me without the settings. However when I noticed the overheating it seems the battery is draining much quicker, A full charge went down to 8% within roughly 4 - 5 hours without any heavy use.
Can anyone assist me on this
Thanks
Khuz
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Hi All
I have had my HTC One X+ for roughly 3 weeks now and just recently I noticed the phone reaching a very hot temperature, I have not measured exactly but it is significantly hotter than I have ever noticed since owning the handset. I don't use it that heavily i.e. for games etc and only charge it when the battery is less than 20%, I have not needed to have the power saving setting turned on because the battery life suited me without the settings. However when I noticed the overheating it seems the battery is draining much quicker, A full charge went down to 8% within roughly 4 - 5 hours without any heavy use. Oh, mines a week old. The damn things using more power than what the charger gives out.
Can anyone assist me on this
Thanks
Khuz
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Did you update?, i just played a game with the charger plugged in with full battery, after 10 mins of game play my battery was at 95% and that with the charger plugged in, my battery life wasnt as good as yours before the update but it was def alot better than it is now, theres quite a few more bugs since 1.16.401 and up, touch screen is dodgy as hell, that could be one reason for the battery drain, im seriouslt thinking of selling it and getting out my onex.
No I havent done any software updates, currently have the latest version available which 1.14.161.18. The problem only started yesterday out of nowhere, I can't understand what is causing it!! My usage has not changed at all :S
I was having the same issues the second I turned my HOX+ on. I have fixed it by not using LTE all the time. I found that when LTE was on, it over-heated my phone and killed my battery life especially when restoring my gmail on initial setup with settings and apps coming down from the cloud.
Just wondering if this is the same for everyone else. My battery is running out insanely quickly. 11 percent on 15 minutes of screen time easy. I've done multiple factory resets but this is a little silly to the point I almost want to return the phone. Anyone else that's using a battery stats app... can you tell me if the kernel is the highest? Mine always is consistently by an insane amount and I'll always have about 1000+ wake locks on my msm_hsic_host and main processes.
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Just wondering if this is the same for everyone else. My battery is running out insanely quickly. 11 percent on 15 minutes of screen time easy. I've done multiple factory resets but this is a little silly to the point I almost want to return the phone. Anyone else that's using a battery stats app... can you tell me if the kernel is the highest? Mine always is consistently by an insane amount and I'll always have about 1000+ wake locks on my msm_hsic_host and main processes.
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I am seeing that too, battery life has been HORRIBLE so far. I love this phone, and I am hoping it will get better with a few charges and discharges, they will probably (hopefully) be releasing some updates to correct any issues soon. According to my battery app, HTC Sense is responsible for 18%, Google Play Store at 14%.
Edit-Mine has been unplugged for 1 hour 52 minutes, and I have only played some Google Music and done a little surfing, and it's down to 84%, that's a pretty big decline in so short a time, especially considering I haven't done anything really intensive. My battery stats program is saying it is discharging at a rate of 1% every 6 minutes. This is the app I'm using-
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...n.beta&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
I am definitely seeing this being an issue. I have lost 8% battery in 45min kernel was 25% and android system was 12.2%. I have only had my phone for a day, so I am hoping that it will course correct itself.
Try the SnapDragon guru app it helped me out greatly. Although I haven't had huge drops like you guys are reporting.
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