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My current portable hard drive apparently uses too much power for the galaxy tab.
Are there any 500gig + hard drives that use the same power as a thumb drive or is this just wishful thinking?
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You will have to use an USB Hub with power supply. All spinning HDD's require much more power than the tablet is supplying.
I know it is not cheap, but you can today buy 128GB USB flash drives - they will work well and store also a lot of HD movies!
i am curious how you are connection your HD to the tab? if you are usign the usb host usb adapter, the little paper that came with it supports up to 32gb fat32 drives. i dont know if thats true or not, but if it is, you wont even be able to use a 128 usb flash drive as previously suggested.
i can confirm that a 32gb fat32 usb flash drive works, used with my sandisk cruiser 32
For portability the Seagate wireless drive would work.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Satellite-Wireless-Storage-STBF500101-Black/dp/B004Z0S7K6
Using a powered hub will work just fine with portable hard drives. I have a 500GB Seagate that works very well
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
cleblanc92 said:
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
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Hosts are actually not required to supply 500 mA even. They are required to supply 100, and may negotiate up to 500 during device enumeration.
PCs that don't support 500 are extremely rare, but mobile devices with OTG are a different story - many are limited to 100. This seems to include our device.
2.5" spinning hard drives that use less than 500 can be found. Less than 100 is not possible.
As to the 32GB limit - I have no idea why that's in the flyer, other than maybe the fact that it's VERY rare to see drives above this size formatted as FAT since Windows refuses to format drives of this size as FAT.
I have a 120GB WD external drive that works fine on my netbook (single USB port cable) I'll have to pick up a USB adapter and try it.
IIRC as the size (GB) of the drive goes up so does it's power draw.
Has anybody tried a 1.8" drive from an MP3 player?
Power consumption
Start 1.8W (max.)
Seek 0.9W (typ.)
Read/Write 0.8W (typ.)
Low power Idle 0.3W (typ.)
Stand-by 0.1W (typ.)
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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Sounds awesome! So, I suppose any powered hub works. Did you format the HD in any specific way or by the help of some fancy software (just wondering as I think Fat32 cannot be formatted under Win7 if the harddisk exceeded size x) ?
Thanks
hoodie said:
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
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If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
achaayan said:
If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
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Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
almith said:
Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
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I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
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I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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achaayan said:
achaayan said:
I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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very kind of you, thank you very much!
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So it's true, you actually have to format your 500GB drive as FAT32 to get it working?
I guess this means no HD movies (files bigger than 4 GB) right?
i plug in the lod fashioned 3.5hdd externally powered and ntfs formatted,
not able to connect 2.5hdds yet. if anyone was successful,what is powered usb hub used, i was not able to connect using a local brand of powered usb hub.
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mlhdk said:
i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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did you use a 2.5" hdd. what is the usb hub that you used ?
i only just found out these are a 'thing', they actually exist
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Data-Storage/Pocket-Hard-Drives/SGBF0500BK
so has anyone used them? is there any reason you can see why they wouldn't work on the Flyer?
and is there any other way of connecting to storage space larger than 32GB on the Flyer - we don't have usb host capabilities, right?
i already have a 300GB portable hard drive, but there is no way to connect this to the flyer, is there?
Some people have reported success with USB host on Flyer with Honeycomb using a powered hub. I have not tried that myself.
Most NAS (network attached storage) drives can be used with android, but i recommend you get one of the file manager apps that supports them from the app market. Most have a web based interface as well, but this is usually slow and clunky.
Many are way cheaper than this Seagate item.
I use Dropbox cloud storage with great success.
i use dropbox as well, for the small stuff...but i'm thinking more along the lines of entertainment when i'm travelling
i used to fill up my 300GB HDD with various music and video and and travel with a netbook...i'm trying to figure out a way of doing that with the flyer, with more space than the 32GB sd card
suggestions?
Often times, an Amazon or ebay page will give info on compatible devices with most hardwares. Look around and see if theres a flyer compatible hard drive online. I'm sure there is
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I'm sure there is
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are you 'sure' there is, or are you just assuming? because i can't find anything
other threads on xda say that a powered external drive 'should' work (but no one who has tried it has confirmed), and on androidforums they categorically say that it will not work
If you are only concerned with videos or music, get a DLNA compatible server and that will work with Flyer, problem with all of these is they need a wireless LAN and its hard to guess if they will work with the Flyer or any other device in a standalone mode. I"m betting the Flyer will refuse to connect to them ad-hoc.
This Seagate device does appear to have a unique ability to setup its own network allowing direct access without another router. Might be useful in that regard. Of course performance is going to be slow, but fast enough to stream one file.
Be sure and read the reviews of users for the android app before you buy one, they are very poor.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seagate.goflexsatellite&hl=en
DigitalMD said:
Be sure and read the reviews of users for the android app before you buy one, they are very poor.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seagate.goflexsatellite&hl=en
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yes, i had read those app reviews, which has simply brought me back to the most basic of questions: other than 32GB SD cards, we have zero confirmed options on extending storage?
Unless you are sitting on a LAN via wifi, or you are running Honeycomb with a powered hub, you'd be a lot better off carrying extra SD cards. This is the same for MOST, not all tablets. Except for a couple of heavyweights, even those that have USB host don't have the power to run a external USB drive
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or you are running Honeycomb with a powered hub
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is this a 'powered hub'?
http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/165870/USB_USB_HUBS/Belkin/F4U040AU.asp
so if i get this i can use my external usb drive, plug it into the flyer's micro usb (using the proprietary cable that came with the flyer), and access media files?
I have one of these in 120 Gig … http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Drive-ST940801U2-RK/dp/B0006FS29U
It has 2 usb connectors one for power and data the other for just power.
I formatted it in Fat32 and found a 2 dollar adaptor to plug the data connector into my flyer.
I then plug the power connector into a usb power source (I’m using the charger from my EVO 4G phone)
Works great … all the files are displayed in Astro and Root Explorer.
I’ve seen the drives as cheap as 75 dollars. Just search around.
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is this a 'powered hub'?
http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/165870/USB_USB_HUBS/Belkin/F4U040AU.asp
so if i get this i can use my external usb drive, plug it into the flyer's micro usb (using the proprietary cable that came with the flyer), and access media files?
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If your external drive is self powered, all you will need is this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YKX6WC...e=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B003YKX6WC
They can be found even cheaper on Ebay
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If your external drive is self powered, all you will need is this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YKX6WC...e=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B003YKX6WC
They can be found even cheaper on Ebay
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it's not self powered but i already have one of those cables (came with my flyer)
i am so confused right now...i'm thinking i need a Y cable like the one in your first link...i'll see what i can dodgy up at home to figure this out
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it's not self powered but i already have one of those cables (came with my flyer)
i am so confused right now...i'm thinking i need a Y cable like the one in your first link...i'll see what i can dodgy up at home to figure this out
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you will need something like this http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-4-Port-Cable-Power-Supply/dp/B00004Z6KW
It’s really simple … if the device you are trying to use doesn’t have its own power supply it will draw power from the usb connection, however the Flyer doesn’t provide power.
So you will need to use a powered hub for your device to get power to operate
Kudzus said:
It’s really simple … if the device you are trying to use doesn’t have its own power supply it will draw power from the usb connection, however the Flyer doesn’t provide power.
So you will need to use a powered hub for your device to get power to operate
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but if the external drive is connected to the powered hub, how will it also connect to the flyer? Y cable?
USB hub
connect USB hub to Flyer,
but neither the hub or the Y cable connection works with my Flyer, so I'm not sure what ROM he is running.
DigitalMD said:
USB hub
connect USB hub to Flyer,
but neither the hub or the Y cable connection works with my Flyer, so I'm not sure what ROM he is running.
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I’m running FlyHoney (haven't updated to latest leak yet) and after plugging in the device I go to settings > storage scroll down to usb storage then mount usb.
Then open Astro and scroll down ... there is new folder labeled USB.
OK, I have Honeycomb too, stock version, but the Host USB does not come online with either a standard cable or an OTG cable. The disk is powered by a Y cable or I can connected it the powered hub. The disk is formatted FAT32 as it should be , looking at the dmesg in terminal , the USB interface never even activates. I wonder if FlyHoney does anything special that stock HC does not do?
I have the Seagate satellite wireless hdd and it works with my flyer. Can stream movies and download from it. Cannot upload. App interface not great, but works
DigitalMD said:
OK, I have Honeycomb too, stock version, but the Host USB does not come online with either a standard cable or an OTG cable. The disk is powered by a Y cable or I can connected it the powered hub. The disk is formatted FAT32 as it should be , looking at the dmesg in terminal , the USB interface never even activates. I wonder if FlyHoney does anything special that stock HC does not do?
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Hummm … I’m not sure, maybe ask Nick in his FlyHoney thread.
Here’s a quick pic of my setup. http://db.tt/3Aohyrkd
Thanks yes, I understand your setup. I have the same things with a Y cable and power, just saying that USB host is not generally available on the Flyer to my knowledge and lots of people wonder how to get it work so maybe Nick can help us out.
butterflygirl said:
I have the Seagate satellite wireless hdd and it works with my flyer. Can stream movies and download from it. Cannot upload. App interface not great, but works
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Thanks for this … Just ordered one from Amazon
Hi,
I've googled this question and it seems that it does. However, I'm plugging a USB flash drive (Sandisk Cruzer 1GB) into the device and nothing seems to be happening.
Yes it does.
Did you buy a USB OTG cable? And did you check within a file explorer of your choice (I'm using EStrongs) whether you get the USB storage as a new directory? I unfortunately neither do carry the USB OTG cable nor a USB stick with me so I can't tell you the exact directory name.
goister said:
Hi,
I've googled this question and it seems that it does. However, I'm plugging a USB flash drive (Sandisk Cruzer 1GB) into the device and nothing seems to be happening.
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Works with my firmware mod C232B005 and the new kernel-3.0.42.
I just tested that with some video from a 8Gb USB pen drive.
You need a mini USB-B to USB-A adapter/connector.
I'm using build number S7-301uV100R002C232B005, Android version 4.0.3, kernel version 3.0.8
I bought a USB OTG cable, don't have a file explorer but alogcat didn't show any activity when I plugged the drive in.
Works fine on mine. It was even working in HC3.2 rom. Keyboard, mouse, pendrives and usb card readers ( used to read my cybershot's card) works fine. But have to tap 'mount usb storage' several times to access my other phone's (HTC wildfire) SD card over usb.
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is your usb flash formatted on FAT32?
OTG works fine even on stock rom. Tested with various USB flash drives and card readers/SD cards of various sizes. Also have played numerous media using the OTG too. I think format should be FAT/FAT32.
One thing that didn't work was an external hard drive (500gb). Maybe it needs its own power for it to mount on the mediapad though I haven't tried formatting it to FAT/FAT32 yet as its my backup drive.
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ferdz33 said:
OTG works fine even on stock rom. Tested with various USB flash drives and card readers/SD cards of various sizes. Also have played numerous media using the OTG too. I think format should be FAT/FAT32.
One thing that didn't work was an external hard drive (500gb). Maybe it needs its own power for it to mount on the mediapad though I haven't tried formatting it to FAT/FAT32 yet as its my backup drive.
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This has been an issue with Android USB OTG since the beginning. Flash drives, mice, and keyboards will work fine by themselves, but anything that requires a little more juice like spinning platter drives needs to be run through a powered USB hub. As for drive format, only FAT/FAT32 is supported. However, some custom kernels have allowed for NTFS file support.
As a side note, I can also confirm that USB 3.0 drives work with the OTG cable. (Patriot Supersonic Express 32GB tested)
isolated_epidemic said:
This has been an issue with Android USB OTG since the beginning. Flash drives, mice, and keyboards will work fine by themselves, but anything that requires a little more juice like spinning platter drives needs to be run through a powered USB hub. As for drive format, only FAT/FAT32 is supported. However, some custom kernels have allowed for NTFS file support.
As a side note, I can also confirm that USB 3.0 drives work with the OTG cable. (Patriot Supersonic Express 32GB tested)
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I already had an inclination that this should be the case but was not able to confirm as I don't have any external HDD with its own power nor do I have a powered USB hub. Thanks again for providing this explanation.
other usb devices?
Does anybody know if the OTG support on the springboard goes beyond OS/file system support, and allows for third party android apps to connect to usb devices?
an example would be the DSLR Controller android app or Remote Release android app being able to see/control a Canon DSLR...
thanks
tsenecal said:
Does anybody know if the OTG support on the springboard goes beyond OS/file system support, and allows for third party android apps to connect to usb devices?
an example would be the DSLR Controller android app or Remote Release android app being able to see/control a Canon DSLR...
thanks
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I tried both apps with my Rebel XSi/450D and had no luck with the OTG cable. Neither app recognizes that the camera is plugged into the tablet. I'm running HWMODs ROM with the MediaPad EX kernel. The last time I tried the app was with my Asus Transformer TF101, and it worked great (no OTG needed though).
Camera also doesn't mount as usb device for file transfers when plugged in.
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441Excelsior said:
is your usb flash formatted on FAT32?
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FAT32 works perfectly with OTG cable. However, I can confirm that NTFS works just fine also. Not sure if it's built into the stock ROM but it works for me running HWMODs ROM and the MediaPad EX kernel.
Remote control works perfectly fine with my 550D over OTG cable. USB FAT32 sticks works fine as well. Don't remember about NTFS. DO NOT connect exFAT drives, as Huawei ROMs kills exFAT partitions! And I wasn't able to recover them. It won't recognize my card reader though...
hwmod said:
Works with my firmware mod C232B005 and the new kernel-3.0.42.
I just tested that with some video from a 8Gb USB pen drive.
You need a mini USB-B to USB-A adapter/connector.
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hi i have just bought a huawei mediapad t1-8.0 and i change it to russian firmware-rooted with towellroot-installed with estrong but i cant see any usb device when i plug in my usb with usb otg cable. anything missing in my component to make it work? tnx for add in your rlpy.
I am not that skilled IT wise I wrongly assumed that my OTG device was a plug and go! Now I am stumped I had hoped to turn my Huawei T5 pad as A TV in my camper. 12v TV's are to expensive as I am retired on a limited income. Is there an easy fix in IT speak that may work for me???
Hello
Just got my new Nexus Player and after long search I can't find the right answer.
I want to connect the player to my Ethernet in my house for better connection and if possible to add an external HDD.
Here is my list of questions and I hope that I've got the the right place:
1. I want to have the maximum network speed and I have Giga cables in my walls . Is there a standards in the adapter that I need to buy to have the maximum speed? Or all the adapters have the same speed limit?
2. Is there a way to connect both Ethernet and USB HDD long side? Is there a magic box that have USB and also an Ethernet connection? If there is I would like to get an advise what is the best one to buy.
If someone have an experience what the items I need and have an advice what is the best to buy - I will love to get some links.
Many thanks in advance
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I found this , will this work with the NP : http://www.satechi.net/index.php/sa...lan-network-adapter-for-windows-mac-and-linux
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This was about the 5th thread in this forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/accessories/gigabit-ethernet-usb-adapter-t2938172
You'll need an OTG cable, a USB 2.0 hub (a powered one if you're going to hook up non-powered hdd), and then just about anything you want will work through the hub. For expanded storage you'll need to root and install stickmount. If you want to install large games then you may need foldermount as well.
Sorry for posting the same issue for the 5th and many thanks for helping me - now it's time for shopping
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I'm still haven't found the right accessory - I really would love to buy only 1 item that have powered USB hub with fast Ethernet . Is there any one that have this ?
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james341 said:
I'm still haven't found the right accessory - I really would love to buy only 1 item that have powered USB hub with fast Ethernet . Is there any one that have this ?
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In Amazon type in "ethernet USB hub", many results will come up. Here is a link to the first one. I don't know for sure if it is compatible or not though.
Anker® 3-Port USB 3.0 HUB with 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Converter (3 USB 3.0 Ports, A RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet Port, Support Windows XP, Vista, Win7/8 (32/64 bit), Mac OS 10.6 and above, Linux) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KGV7I9Y/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_-ifUub140WKQG
The problem is that even if the adapter supports full Ethernet speed the USB port on the nexus player will not.
So, you should get the benefit of a stable connection... But it will never be beyond USB 2.0 speeds.
I am connected to 2.5ghz wireless N and I haven't had a problem with 1080p Netflix, no stutters on YouTube and modern combat 4 and 5 both play with no lag.
midnightzak said:
This was about the 5th thread in this forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/accessories/gigabit-ethernet-usb-adapter-t2938172
You'll need an OTG cable, a USB 2.0 hub (a powered one if you're going to hook up non-powered hdd), and then just about anything you want will work through the hub. For expanded storage you'll need to root and install stickmount. If you want to install large games then you may need foldermount as well.
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Can anyone tell me why my USB flash drive doesn't always mount with my Nexus player? I've got a powered Plugable USB hub, with my pny 32gb fat32 format USB drive.
It keeps switching names and sometimes doesn't show up at all until after I rerun stickmount.
This happens after waking from sleep as well. I'm obviously rooted and unlocked what am I missing?
Also how do I activate pro on stickmount after I've purchased it. I just get a weird screenshots about the pro version when clicking upgrade....
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Can anyone tell me why my USB flash drive doesn't always mount with my Nexus player? I've got a powered Plugable USB hub, with my pny 32gb fat32 format USB drive.
It keeps switching names and sometimes doesn't show up at all until after I rerun stickmount.
This happens after waking from sleep as well. I'm obviously rooted and unlocked what am I missing?
Also how do I activate pro on stickmount after I've purchased it. I just get a weird screenshots about the pro version when clicking upgrade....
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It might have something to due with a recent bug they fixed.
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/cts/+/7ed3699
toyotabedzrock said:
It might have something to due with a recent bug they fixed.
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/cts/+/7ed3699
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Wow got a response almost a year later.... Lol
Good thing I don't have that crappy Nexus Player anymore Shield TV is where it's at!
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Hello good people,
I was so happy, that i can use Nex9 like Linux Desktop, because i used Nex7 (2012) like that.
Bigger screen, bigger experience. So i happily bought USB OTG, connect and....nothing.
Tried mouse, keyboard, two kind of OTG cables, HDD, two kind of Flash Disk's their formats etc...
I tried everything rooted, unrooted from 5.0 to 6.0.
Can u help me or explain me the situation?
Thank you sweet devs (no homo)
Still hoping.
Adam
Did you tried different USB OTG adapter? I tried pc mice, 3 USB sticks, 3TB HDD and everything works, no root stock Nexus 9
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StickMount from chainfire
Nope
cmh714 said:
StickMount from chainfire
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Tried but unsuccesfull.
Damn v
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Tried but unsuccesfull.
Damn v
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it works just fine, so its something you are doing or have on the device or ......
I just tested with a USB flash drive and my Audio DAC, and both work great.
Did you find a solution? im having a similar problem with my Nexus 9, it recognises the USB but NOTHING plays back, i just get play back errors.
Im using a USB OTG cable with a 32gb flash drive, both Nexus media importer and other file explorers display the contents but nothing plays back at all
SOLVED!
rikkyshh said:
Did you find a solution? im having a similar problem with my Nexus 9, it recognises the USB but NOTHING plays back, i just get play back errors.
Im using a USB OTG cable with a 32gb flash drive, both Nexus media importer and other file explorers display the contents but nothing plays back at all
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Hi! Yes, i solved this. Upgrading to 6.X (CM) it was first thing that works for diagnostic. Second thing is the OTG cabel. YOu have to use special OTG with electronic. (i personally call it expensive and cheap OTG) . Thats it. I hope that i helped you. Because i was very sad in your situation.
Sorry for english. I am from Bananastan
Adam