So from what I understand, either HTC or AT&T has plans of dicking over the populous when it comes to the bootloader. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't have any updates on the issue so i don't know if it's happened yet or not. In any case, if you end up in a situation where you cannot obtain the unlock token from HTC for the bootloader, try out Unlock Phone Bootloader by Unlock Root. I personally have used Unlock Root time and time again to root and unroot my old LG MyTouch and my husband's Q with no issues. No need to use command prompt. Just plug in your phone to your comp, enable USB debugging and hit start once the program is on it way. I completely forgot about the bootloader program during the whole process of obtaining drivers and getting ADB and what not. I only remembered just now becaue I'm fixing to root my phone and wanted to see if Unlock Root supported our phone. It's new to the US market, but not the international. So I didn't use the Unlock Bootloader. But, if i ever have to turn this phone in for whatever horrible reason, I'll keep this in mind for myself.
Anyways, Get the program. Give it a shot. It's literally really easy to use. No drivers and command prompts and the like. I'm about to root my phone with the UR program, if it's supported. Have fun. And post if the UB program was actually a success.
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Not sure if serious or Spam....
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Not sure if serious or Spam....
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Sure looks like an effing ad to me!
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Hogwash. OP should know better than to post methods not tested on the device in discussion.
SPAM
You cannot use the same partition hacks that were used on the previous HTC models.
Awe sh!t the big guns have shown up!
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droidiac13 said:
Awe sh!t the big guns have shown up!
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Well sites like that steal our hard work and monetize it.
designgears said:
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You cannot use the same partition hacks that were used on the previous HTC models.
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Not spam clowns. I'm that good at selling a product. Do what you want, it was a suggestion. I said try it. If it worked, post it so others will know and feel comfortable trying it out. Or don't try it. I could give ZERO ***** what you do.
And by the way, this OP says you can't know if something works if you don't test it first. Someone has to test it. Just like trying out a new hack, or ROM or even an app, is all testing. You know, that thing called Beta testing? But what do I know, right? I've only been Rooting and romming for 2.5 years.
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Well sites like that steal our hard work and monetize it.
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And Oh Nos for someone taking the time to make a program that compiles all the "hard work" into one place and makes it easier for many to root their devices, especially those who run into issues like getting ADB to sync on their comps or figure out what SDK files to use. And "bad developer" for charging a fee for their hard work in making said program. Some people ask for donations. You pay for full version apps in the Play Store when you really like the Lite versions. Bad, Bad developer for embracing capitalism. Providing a service and charging a fee. But wait! Unlock Phone and Unlock Root are both FREE unless your phone falls under some special circumstance that requires the "full version".
oooooooo kayyyyyyyyy
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Exactly.
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And Oh Nos for someone taking the time to make a program that compiles all the "hard work" into one place and makes it easier for many to root their devices, especially those who run into issues like getting ADB to sync on their comps or figure out what SDK files to use. And "bad developer" for charging a fee for their hard work in making said program. Some people ask for donations. You pay for full version apps in the Play Store when you really like the Lite versions. Bad, Bad developer for embracing capitalism. Providing a service and charging a fee. But wait! Unlock Phone and Unlock Root are both FREE unless your phone falls under some special circumstance that requires the "full version".
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Its a shame you've been rooting and romming that long yet you're still such a noob, not to phones but to the community in general.
No one is against capital at least not the ones you directed that at in this thread.
If I donate my time to build something that I release for free, because I want to do something for the community, and then someone else decides to use my work and my code and sell it for profit, that's stealing my work and selling it as their own.
All that aside I just plain don't like things such as these because people who couldn't find the instructions and run ADB or use the sdk don't need to be unlocking their bootloaders.
I spend a few hours a night teaching users how to use ADB and fastboot, helping with remote troubleshooting. I also spend a couple more hours answering questions. I could easily charge a small fee send them a script or remotely do it for them and cut them loose. But I enjoy this community and the more people who learn the fundamentals the better the community is. The last thing I want to do is capitalize on something which has the ill effect of me surrounding myself with a bunch of uneducated helpless noobs who will screw things up royally, because a large portion of those users will commit warranty or insurance fraud simply because they don't have the ability to pull a logcat.
I'm a greedy bastard I put in about 70 hours a week with my businesses so I can work my way to the top. I have no problem with capitalism. But there is a place for ethics in capitalism and without it, things go downhill.
I didn't mean to sound to harsh, but when I know the sacrifices some of the people like beaups and jcase have made such as spending thousands of dollars on hardware to get the process to a point its safe and anyone who can read directions can achive unlock, it irks me to see someone jump on their case or put quotation marks to insinuate their hard work is something other than coming home from the real job and sacrificing sleep, family, and social obligations just to better the community as a whole.
I know you didn't realize the hornets nest you were about to uncover, and I hope readers realize I don't have malicious intent.
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whitetiger_0603 said:
So from what I understand, either HTC or AT&T has plans of dicking over the populous when it comes to the bootloader. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't have any updates on the issue so i don't know if it's happened yet or not. In any case, if you end up in a situation where you cannot obtain the unlock token from HTC for the bootloader, try out Unlock Phone Bootloader by Unlock Root. I personally have used Unlock Root time and time again to root and unroot my old LG MyTouch and my husband's Q with no issues. No need to use command prompt. Just plug in your phone to your comp, enable USB debugging and hit start once the program is on it way. I completely forgot about the bootloader program during the whole process of obtaining drivers and getting ADB and what not. I only remembered just now becaue I'm fixing to root my phone and wanted to see if Unlock Root supported our phone. It's new to the US market, but not the international. So I didn't use the Unlock Bootloader. But, if i ever have to turn this phone in for whatever horrible reason, I'll keep this in mind for myself.
Anyways, Get the program. Give it a shot. It's literally really easy to use. No drivers and command prompts and the like. I'm about to root my phone with the UR program, if it's supported. Have fun. And post if the UB program was actually a success.
Link to site: http://unlockroot.com/
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A) wont work on this phone, if it does then its just grabbing a token from HTC and unlocking like another chinese program out there is doing
B) its a thief's program, stealing work from people like me.
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A) wont work on this phone, if it does then its just grabbing a token from HTC and unlocking like another chinese program out there is doing
B) its a thief's program, stealing work from people like me.
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Yeah, I'm not entering my name anywhere. Thanks anyway, HTC. Besides, AlphaRev and Unrevoked already did your job for you.
Since our last update, many of you have asked how the bootloader unlocking process will actually work, and in particular why HTC's most recently released devices still have a locked bootloader. Rest assured we're making progress toward our goal to roll out the first software updates in August to support unlocking for the global HTC Sensation, followed soon by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. Because unlocking the bootloader provides extensive control over the device and modifications may cause operation, security and experience issues, new devices will continue to ship locked but will support user-initiated unlocking using a new Web-based tool.
So how will this work? The Web tool, which will launch this month, requires that you register an account with a valid e-mail address and accept legal disclaimers that unlocking may void all or parts of your warranty. Then plug in your phone to a computer with the Android SDK loaded to retrieve a device identifier token, which you can then enter into the Web tool to receive a unique unlock key via e-mail. Finally, apply the key to your device and unlocking will be initiated on your phone.
We're excited to bring bootloader unlocking to developers and enthusiasts, and we feel this new Web tool will meet your needs and continue to provide customers with the best experience. Thanks to the community for supporting these efforts!
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https://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&¬e_id=10150305151453084&id=101063233083
I figured they would want a way to know exactly which phones were unlocked. i'll stick with alpha revs method.
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Yeah, I'm not entering my name anywhere. Thanks anyway, HTC. Besides, AlphaRev and Unrevoked already did your job for you.
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wow. some actual clarity on what they plan to do.
nice to see an update !
but for the evo3d is a bit late
Lmao,actually according to their explanation,their method sounds just like AlpharevX.It would be hilarious if alpharevX sold their method to HTC.
That blows. They couldn't just ship the damn thing unlocked.
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Lmao,actually according to their explanation,their method sounds just like AlpharevX.It would be hilarious if alpharevX sold their method to HTC.
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Well, if he did I hope he didn't sell them the serial numbers of the ones already unlocked jk
I guess it all makes sense (har har).
If it makes the carriers happy, who cares if this is how they do it? I'm sure whenever they release a bootloader unlocker someone on XDA will take it and make it so you can do it without the email/key. We're gonna come out ahead either way.
Well i guess now they will know when we unlock our bootloader and warranty I don't care since I don't use the warranty anyways
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
I'd be curious to know from Google, Sprint and Samsung how many problems they have from the NexusS4G being very easily unlockable...I doubt it's very many...and HTC should suck on that.
I don't know if that's as much of a fair comparison - with the Nexus being near stock I wouldn't expect them to be flashed/bricked nearly as much as with the Evo4G.
The OG Evo gained so much from flashing - features, kernels, whole new versions of sense. And it had so many updates over the life of the phone, making for different rooting methods and having people flash their phones many many times, making it one of if not the most developed phone we have seen.
I'm quite certain the brick count on those were some of the highest anyone's ever seen as well. That's after all the returns from dead pixels, bad charging ports, and what have you. You can understand a carrier/manufacturer's wishing to prevent all that.
By the same token, it feels like HTC benefits greatly from the development community, perhaps using a lot of what they see here in their own updates (maybe even waiting for people to fix their bugs). They definitely see value in unlocking phones, which I guess we should be happy about.
As long as HTC keeps their unlocked policy I will remain a loyal customer.
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I don't know if that's as much of a fair comparison - with the Nexus being near stock I wouldn't expect them to be flashed/bricked nearly as much as with the Evo4G.
The OG Evo gained so much from flashing - features, kernels, whole new versions of sense. And it had so many updates over the life of the phone, making for different rooting methods and having people flash their phones many many times, making it one of if not the most developed phone we have seen.
I'm quite certain the brick count on those were some of the highest anyone's ever seen as well. That's after all the returns from dead pixels, bad charging ports, and what have you. You can understand a carrier/manufacturer's wishing to prevent all that.
By the same token, it feels like HTC benefits greatly from the development community, perhaps using a lot of what they see here in their own updates (maybe even waiting for people to fix their bugs). They definitely see value in unlocking phones, which I guess we should be happy about.
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Were there that many bricked E4G's? I don't recall hearing about that many of them in my tenure on the forum...admittedly I barely spent any time in General that year as Development was bustling from before day 1.
...but, per capita I doubt the brick-count was that far off the average for any other popular phone worth rooting. God knows I did horrible things to mine and never even had to fix it via adb/fastboot.... it was a very popular phone even among the average joe.
I know that HTC benefits greatly from the dev community. Where do you think they got the FPS-unlock from? Among other things. That's how open source works and is designed to work. That's also why myself and others were so shocked with the whole 'locking' fiasco.
...now, aside from our own speculation about how high the brick rate may or may not have been why not speculate about something more productive: How LOW the brick rate could be if they utilized eMMC's secure-write technology to make a 'mega-recovery' partition that would be locked and even WE wouldn't want to unlock it....that could be used in a worst case scenario to fully restore a phone to stock...to enable the unlocking that WE want and reduce the (understandable) liability of allowing full control that they want. We get unlock, they get insulation from liability of allowing such a feature (that most people STILL wouldn't know about or care about)....why don't they do that? eMMC makes that trivial to implement (as we found out the hard way)...neglecting the fact that they could have utilized any number of simpler technologies to accomplish the same thing even before eMMC...why not?
That's a topic for further speculation (get your tinfoil hats ready), but, why don't they do that? Play both sides of the field. No voided warranties, no brick returns, no pissed off modders....win win win, right? The carrier doesn't want that? Cool, let us know, we'll flock to the carrier that allows it...something tells me Sprint would be that underdog...
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Lmao,actually according to their explanation,their method sounds just like AlpharevX.It would be hilarious if alpharevX sold their method to HTC.
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Not at all like what AlphaRevX did. The only reason they had the serial number check was because it was in Beta so they could shut down their serial generator and stop people using their unlock if they found a problem with it.
This HTC method makes sense, and I think it's fair. Their tool only needs to hook up to your phone to get the device identifier token, the unlock actually happens on the phone itself. This way HTC gets a list of unlocked phones so when people go for support you can't lie to them that your phone was unlocked, but people can have day one unlocks on any phone from HTC going forward.
So now HTC wants to know who exactly is unlocking there phones??
Nice try you sneaky basterds
What's wrong with them knowing if you're unlocked? They have to do that... Otherwise insurance companies would get upset. This is legit and it if people screw their phones up due to user error while unlocked then they shouldn't be able to file a claim.
This also let's them see just how many people want to be unlocked so they don't try and take it away from us again
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What's wrong with them knowing if you're unlocked? They have to do that... Otherwise insurance companies would get upset. This is legit and it if people screw their phones up due to user error while unlocked then they shouldn't be able to file a claim.
This also let's them see just how many people want to be unlocked so they don't try and take it away from us again
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yeah....I dunno. They could (relatively) easily make the phones nearly brick-proof (see my above post) yet they do not. Why? I'm almost irritated by all of the altruistic sentiment for 'doing the right thing'....not because of the altruism, I actually find that refreshing and endearing. It's more because they could take steps to nearly eliminate the potential for bricking (and in doing so insulate the insurance company from liability...making that a moot point), but that people are defending a position that needn't exist.
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i guess it all makes sense (har har).
If it makes the carriers happy, who cares if this is how they do it? I'm sure whenever they release a bootloader unlocker someone on xda will take it and make it so you can do it without the email/key. We're gonna come out ahead either way.
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Haha, sounds exactly how alpharev did it...hmm, maybe they tore it out of alpharevs hands, i dont know, sounds fishy.
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yeah....I dunno. They could (relatively) easily make the phones nearly brick-proof (see my above post) yet they do not. Why? I'm almost irritated by all of the altruistic sentiment for 'doing the right thing'....not because of the altruism, I actually find that refreshing and endearing. It's more because they could take steps to nearly eliminate the potential for bricking (and in doing so insulate the insurance company from liability...making that a moot point), but that people are defending a position that needn't exist.
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You don't know why they're doing it. Maybe they wanna track the people that abuse the crap out of wireless tether... Maybe it's for other reasons. Who cares, they are unlocking it for us and that's all that matters. I have nothing to hide when I root so I care less. If you're upset about it then there are other options.
People are getting exactly what they wanted and they still find a reason to cry... Get over it already
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I'm new to the forums, but I've been keeping an eye on the X2 bootloader issue for a while and haven't seen this suggestion come up yet, so I thought I'd give it a try. Is there a way we could use distributive processing to crack the bootloader? It would take years for a single computer to crack it, but if we got a few hundred or thousand people to download a program that worked at it, would it be possible to unlock it that way?
I'm not the best with this kind of stuff so I don't have a clue if this would actually work, but if it would, it might be a good way to solve our problems.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Has anyone attempted to write a program like this before?
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I'm new to the forums, but I've been keeping an eye on the X2 bootloader issue for a while and haven't seen this suggestion come up yet, so I thought I'd give it a try. Is there a way we could use distributive processing to crack the bootloader? It would take years for a single computer to crack it, but if we got a few hundred or thousand people to download a program that worked at it, would it be possible to unlock it that way?
I'm not the best with this kind of stuff so I don't have a clue if this would actually work, but if it would, it might be a good way to solve our problems.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Has anyone attempted to write a program like this before?
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although it may be possible it would still take awhile to not only run the program but to also write the program. plus all of the computers would have to be linked somehow so that they worked on seperate parts/ not work on finished part. it can be a PLAUSIBLE idea though if moto is gunna be douches for a while to come -___-
I posted this same question not long ago in a similar this forum. Look for the one that says "bootloader question not an unlock."
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The only way this is going to have an ounce of a chance of happening is, we need to keep hounding both Motorola and Verizon.
Bombard their support with calls/emails, demanding to unlock the bootloader and release an ICS upgrade for the X2.
I've emailed Motorola support at least 20 times now, constantly explaining my position. The next step is to call them as well.
Please remember, BE CIVIL! Do not get belligerent, nasty and avoid cursing. Keep the email/call tactful because being immature about it won't help you. Explain your position and why you feel that what they are doing is not right and that as a consumer, you demand support for a phone that is not even a year old, but appears to have been all but abandoned by the company.
No developer is throwing us a bone. At least, I'm not holding out hope on that one.
Oh, and by "developer" I mean those at Motorola. The devs releasing ROMs are throwing us more than a bone and they are a godsend compared to what Motorola and Verizon are doing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22224030&postcount=4
Sadly it isn't so easy. Believe me, were it so easy, there would be a lot more unlocked bootloaders. Not a bad idea, but in practice, its just not practical.
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The only way this is going to have an ounce of a chance of happening is, we need to keep hounding both Motorola and Verizon.
Bombard their support with calls/emails, demanding to unlock the bootloader and release and ICS upgrade for the X2.
I've emailed Motorola support at least 20 times now, constantly explaining my position. The next step is to call them as well.
Please remember, BE CIVIL! Do not get belligerent, nasty and avoid cursing. Keep the email/call tactful because being immature about it won't help you. Explain your position and why you feel that what they are doing is not right and that as a consumer, you demand support for a phone that is not even a year old, but appears to have been all but abandoned by the company.
No developer is throwing us a bone. At least, I'm not holding out hope on that one.
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At this point, this may realistically be our only option. I'm game.
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Hawkysoft said:
Yeye i know...
Another person not happy about Asus's acts...
My problem? the bootloader not being fully unlocked... halve a promiss which has been made by asus IMO.
So therefor i sended them an email asking if they will change the unlock tool so we can use NVFLASH as well..
if i get an reply, i'll post it here... >.<
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Cool thanks. This would be awesome. Save people from a few brick situations.
The only reason they may not is because it gives access to DRM information, correct?
mtotho said:
Cool thanks. This would be awesome. Save people from a few brick situations.
The only reason they may not is because it gives access to DRM information, correct?
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as far as i know, that was the reason why we wouldn't get any google music store or w/e it was support? which i never used and heared about before all this stuff anyway
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as far as i know, that was the reason why we wouldn't get any google music store or w/e it was support? which i never used and heared about before all this stuff anyway
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Yea, I have never once considered buying a movie/music there. That is what Netflix/Spotify/Grooveshark is far
I would be 100% okay with a second unlock tool that will further unlock but disable access to DRM material on the market
If I were to hypothetically steal music/movies, It would be on my PC anyway where it is much easier. Hypothetically speaking
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Yea, I have never once considered buying a movie/music there. That is what Netflix/Spotify/Grooveshark is far
I would be 100% okay with a second unlock tool that will further unlock but disable access to DRM material on the market
If I were to hypothetically steal music/movies, It would be on my PC anyway where it is much easier. Hypothetically speaking
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lol I know right? They're punishing you by not giving you access to something no one uses anyway. Great way to make sure they don't get customers.
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lol I know right? They're punishing you by not giving you access to something no one uses anyway. Great way to make sure they don't get customers.
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that would be okey if they denied us the access, but in trade for that they should have unlocked the entire bootloader, and not on the current state where we are screwed on both sides (and not the pleasant way)..
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Just saw this thread funny i had to rant about the same thing last night. IMO if they're gonna fully void our warranty they HAVE to fully unlock it. Anything else is bull****. Not having nvflash and fastboot is a bigger issue than all others combined for me.
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Just saw this thread funny i had to rant about the same thing last night. IMO if they're gonna fully void our warranty they HAVE to fully unlock it. Anything else is bull****. Not having nvflash and fastboot is a bigger issue than all others combined for me.
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its like giving away a car without an engine, nor a spot for one... ;/
and that noob @ asus... wow.. serious... i thought they had more brighter people working there...
also without being capable of using nvflash and fastboot, i won't unlock it i think..
and what if they release a new tool? would it be capable to use at the 'unlocked' devices as well? which im afraid off it won't at start of it...
post the email. We should have the whole forum send them an email. OR lets do another BBB complaint
i just used contact us @ asus.com... you won't get to see a true email adress, but at the bright hand, you don't have to fill in your serial number, just fill in like not-needed i did that as well
[update] seems like email 1 has been forwarded, since it has been changed activity to: your suggestion has been received by us and is being progressed.......etc...
email2 still no changes
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Looks good. But man if you get a real response from Asus at least proof read first. Everyone appreciates professionalism.
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Looks good. But man if you get a real response from Asus at least proof read first. Everyone appreciates professionalism.
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i know don't worry, but to helpdesk workers... i can't help it but my anger speaks, these people think we are stupid and will accept every answer they are giving..
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I can see a few reasons where it would make sense.
0.) Maybe they can't officially. I'm not sure where TF101's nvflash stuff comes from but I could see nVidia making it an issue not to just throw it around willy nilly. Who knows, they could be held liable or risk damaging their contracts with suppliers (like nVidia).
1.) If it could "Undo" the unlocker, well d'uh we're not gonna get it in any legit way.
2.) Maybe they're fed up with enough leaks and general issues that they don't care, after all two new models coming on line soon. And I do expect even if ASUS isn't replacing the Prime, stores will replace it with the new budget model and the Infinity.
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IF unlocking the boot loader was for rooting(which this could be the case IF fastboot was working), they are basically contradicting themselves. They're saying since the boot loader is unlocked we can now root. The way you root when you unlock the boot loader is by changing ro-secure= from 1 to 0 in default.prop in the boot.img(unsecure boot.img), then flash the unsecure boot.img with fastboot. This gives you a root terminal and adb remount to mount system r/w. This is the proper way to do it.
The guy in that email is full of ****, or has no clue what he's talking about. Most likely both
It makes absolutely NO sense for them to cripple fastboot. Nvflash, I can somewhat see in the eyes of some paper pushing pu$$y, but not fastboot.
maybe someone else should try to email... ;/
I know I was able to unlock my sensation 4g for free using this method..surely the sim unlock code has to be stored on the device itself because it cannot ping ATT servers if service is unavailable because a different sim has been inserted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
anyone smart able to chime in on this?
Interesting... That does make sense, but, unfortunately, requires the phone to be rooted first, which is an inherently dangerous task for people who are just looking to unlock and not root their phone. An unlock code costs only $8 online anyway.
Still, very interesting. Thanks for posting this!
poopymt3g said:
I know I was able to unlock my sensation 4g for free using this method..surely the sim unlock code has to be stored on the device itself because it cannot ping ATT servers if service is unavailable because a different sim has been inserted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
anyone smart able to chime in on this?
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Though I can't really comment on if an unlock trick like would work, I do recall a while back there was a statement made by AT&T saying that if you've had your account in good standing for 3 months, they'll issue an unlock code to you no questions asked.
might be a route to try.
Theoriginalgiga said:
Though I can't really comment on if an unlock trick like would work, I do recall a while back there was a statement made by AT&T saying that if you've had your account in good standing for 3 months, they'll issue an unlock code to you no questions asked.
might be a route to try.
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Not for the Note, ATT will release unlock code for good standing account in August. 6 months for the Note. Call almost 8 CSs and they all said that
Yeah I am a tmobile customer and bought a note from a friend on ATT they wouldnt give him the unlock code until 3 months after purchase..I saw some pretty bad reviews on the $8 dollar site..i should have my note soon so ill tinker around with it for a bit and if i fail ill pay the 25 bucks to unlock it..
I used a similar unlock trick to unlock a cheap Samsung Dart (Mini) I got. It used the /dev/block and I forget the rest of it. Then using a Hex editor I just searched for the 8 digit unlock code. I bet something similar would work for the Note.
I have heard 6 months as well.
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Interesting... That does make sense, but, unfortunately, requires the phone to be rooted first, which is an inherently dangerous task for people who are just looking to unlock and not root their phone. An unlock code costs only $8 online anyway.
Still, very interesting. Thanks for posting this!
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Rooting is not inherently dangerous. It's these types of posts that scare off people from the rooting community. This seems like it would work pretty good for some people.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Rooting is not inherently dangerous.
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IMO, any simple action which could instantly turn one's phone into a very expensive paperweight through no fault of one's own is pretty dangerous. Add on top of that all the foreknowledge that must go into rooting a phone without error and things get even more dangerous.
I suppose we can agree to disagree, but until the tools to root phones become foolproof, I would never ever consider recommending someone who is not somewhat tech savvy to root their phone.
SkizzMcNizz said:
It's these types of posts that scare off people from the rooting community.
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Again, IMO (and this is not directed at you) it's the attitude of many people on this site that scares people away from the rooting community. It's disheartening to see how often people are insulted on this forum just because they are trying to learn something. Again, not directed at you; just an observation of someone who is new to the forums and has read many threads...
Don57 said:
IMO, any simple action which could instantly turn one's phone into a very expensive paperweight through no fault of one's own is pretty dangerous. Add on top of that all the foreknowledge that must go into rooting a phone without error and things get even more dangerous.
I suppose we can agree to disagree, but until the tools to root phones become foolproof, I would never ever consider recommending someone who is not somewhat tech savvy to root their phone.
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Rooting is not inherently dangerous, as already stated above, and it is nearly impossible to hard brick your phone. If one does manage to hard brick their phone, it can't be said that it was achieved through no fault of their own, because it would take a concerted effort, or blatant disregard for safety, to achieve this. Even soft bricks are exceedingly rare if you simply follow directions.
Of course, it goes without saying that people who don't know what they are doing should not be messing with their devices. There are warnings on the top of every ROM/kernel/root/recovery thread telling you that you WILL brick if you do something wrong. But it's not like rooting or flashing custom ROMs is rocket science. All the hard work has already been done. All that is required from the end user is carefully read the instructions.
Hi,
I want to root my TCL A509DL phone but just don't have the time to figure out how to do it. I'd like to hire someone to root it for me. I'll pay $50 and give you remote access to my PC which will have the phone connected via USB with USB debugging mode on. I'll pay through PayPal and I'll pay $25 in advance and the remaining $25 upon completion of the root. Any takers?
I have rooted this phone, I can help ya out
Stevenwsmith said:
Hi,
I want to root my TCL A509DL phone but just don't have the time to figure out how to do it. I'd like to hire someone to root it for me. I'll pay $50 and give you remote access to my PC which will have the phone connected via USB with USB debugging mode on. I'll pay through PayPal and I'll pay $25 in advance and the remaining $25 upon completion of the root. Any takers?
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I have rooted this phone, I can help ya out
Because it's a TracFone branded device, and manufactured by TCL, I was reluctant to believe at first that this phone could be oem unlocked and rooted. After some research and chats with members here on XDA, I see that I was wrong. Amazingly, the A509DL can be unlocked and rooted.
Viva La Android said:
This phone cannot be rooted. It is currently not possible due to the perma-locked bootloader. Unless an exploit can be implemented to bypass the locked bootloader, rooting, flashing, modifying, etc., will not.ne possible on the TCL A509DL.
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I was just wondering that if this phone can't be rooted, why are people like The Android Shop charging $175.00 to send customers over to MetaServices just so they can get their email and cash apps hacked. Are The Android Shop and Meta- Services real companies?
mememissy said:
I was just wondering that if this phone can't be rooted, why are people like The Android Shop charging $175.00 to send customers over to MetaServices just so they can get their email and cash apps hacked. Are The Android Shop and Meta- Services real companies?
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I was incorrect on my previous statement. The A509DL can certainly be bootloader unlocked, rooted, network unlocked, etc. I apologize for the misinformation. I have removed my post stating incorrect info.
Viva La Android said:
I was incorrect on my previous statement. The A509DL can certainly be bootloader unlocked, rooted, network unlocked, etc. I apologize for the misinformation. I have removed my post stating incorrect info.
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I am still looking for someone who can help me root this phone. It's a TCL A509DL. I should get another phone but now it's a matter of principle. I should be able to do on my phone what everyone else can do on their phone. It's horrible that I have to either buy a new one, beg someone to help me or pay someone to help me.
The software to root your phone can be found online free. First, unlocking the bootloader is required. MTK Client is the recommended tool for that job. After that, patching your boot image with Magisk and flashing it to the /boot partition will get you root. Do a search here on XDA for "TCL A509DL" and read over the device threads for the procedures. Once I get the free time I'll be posting a full rooting tutorial for this device.
Viva La Android said:
The software to root your phone can be found online free. First, unlocking the bootloader is required. MTK Client is the recommended tool for that job. After that, patching your boot image with Magisk and flashing it to the /boot partition will get you root. Do a search here on XDA for "TCL A509DL" and read over the device threads for the procedures. Once I get the free time I'll be posting a full rooting tutorial for this device.
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I pray that you do that soon. I paid the Android Shop already to help me but here it is three days later and I am still working on it. They said that I would have to pay another $25.00 for Ninja Root. This is ridiculous! I would be more than happy to pay someone to walk me through the process.
mememissy said:
I pray that you do that soon. I paid the Android Shop already to help me but here it is three days later and I am still working on it. They said that I would have to pay another $25.00 for Ninja Root. This is ridiculous! I would be more than happy to pay someone to walk me through the process.
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Ninja Root is not required. I'm not saying that Ninja Root can't do the job because I'm not familiar with it, but I do know you can root the phone without it. Be very wary of any service that charges a fee for rooting. The Android OS embodies the spirit of open-source platforms and free use policy. I don't condone services that charge fees to root. I do realize that you made the initial offer to pay someone to root your device. You can easily open yourself up to being scammed by doing so. Just be cautious and use your intuition. Be patient. If nothing else, I will be writing up a tutorial when free time permits.
If you are referring to Sunshine by The Root Ninja, I am familiar with that software and it is legit. Again, I don't know its applicability to unlocking or rooting the A509DL, but I do know it is legit with unlocking many models of bootloader that are otherwise perma-locked.
Viva La Android said:
Ninja Root is not required. I'm not saying that Ninja Root can't do the job because I'm not familiar with it, but I do know you can root the phone without it. Be very wary of any service that charges a fee for rooting. The Android OS embodies the spirit of open-source platforms and free use policy. I don't condone services that charge fees to root. I do realize that you made the initial offer to pay someone to root your device. You can easily open yourself up to being scammed by doing so. Just be cautious and use your intuition. Be patient. If nothing else, I will be writing up a tutorial when free time permits.
If you are referring to Sunshine by The Root Ninja, I am familiar with that software and it is legit. Again, I don't know its applicability to unlocking or rooting the A509DL, but I do know it is legit with unlocking many models of bootloader that are otherwise perma-locked.
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Please let me know as soon as you get an opportunity to post a tutorial on how to root this phone.
mememissy said:
Please let me know as soon as you get an opportunity to post a tutorial on how to root this phone.
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My friend, you will be the first to know, you have my word on that. Let me again emphasize that I'm not saying that whoever is wanting to root your device is a scammer or isn't legit. I'm just personally opposed to services that charge a fee for rooting.
Viva La Android said:
My friend, you will be the first to know, you have my word on that. Let me again emphasize that I'm not saying that whoever is wanting to root your device is a scammer or isn't legit. I'm just personally opposed to services that charge a fee for rooting.
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I really appreciate it. Trying to learn how to do this has not been as fun as I thought it would be.
mememissy said:
I really appreciate it. Trying to learn how to do this has not been as fun as I thought it would be.
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Well, you are definitely learning on a device that is both unorthodox and rather complex to root. Most devices are a cake-walk compared to the TCL A3. This phone steps outside the bounds of a typical rooting strategy. Traditionally, TracFone branded devices have not been rootable. New innovations in bootloader unlocking methods have made this possible. I was unaware of these new methods until only recently. That is the reason I was previously incorrect in stating that the TCL A3 could not be rooted.
If all goes as planned, I will have time this coming week to post a rooting guide.
Viva La Android said:
Well, you are definitely learning on a device that is both unorthodox and rather complex to root. Most devices are a cake-walk compared to the TCL A3. This phone steps outside the bounds of a typical rooting strategy. Traditionally, TracFone branded devices have not been rootable. New innovations in bootloader unlocking methods have made this possible.
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I think that if it were easy, I'd probably learn a lot less. I really want to learn how to do stuff like this. However, you are absolutely correct, this is not easy.
mememissy said:
I think that if it were easy, I'd probably learn a lot less. I really want to learn how to do stuff like this. However, you are absolutely correct, this is not easy.
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That's the spirit...learn on this complex device and normal device rooting will come much simpler. In any event, I will keep you posted.
Viva La Android said:
That's the spirit...learn on this complex device and normal device rooting will come much simpler. In any event, I will keep you posted.
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Thanks. If I don't brick this phone, I'll be able to tell you how grateful I am later
mememissy said:
Thanks. If I don't brick this phone, I'll be able to tell you how grateful I am later
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i can walk you through the the unlock process and all I ask is you make a backup of the rom and send it to me. i bricked mine and have been looking for a backup everywhere.
r1pp3d2 said:
i can walk you through the the unlock process and all I ask is you make a backup of the from and send it to me. i bricked mine and have been looking for a backup everywhere.
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I have to be honest, I don't know how to do that. Tell me what I have to do. I will try it. If you don't hear back from me after, that means I bricked mine too.
I sent a message