I know I was able to unlock my sensation 4g for free using this method..surely the sim unlock code has to be stored on the device itself because it cannot ping ATT servers if service is unavailable because a different sim has been inserted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
anyone smart able to chime in on this?
Interesting... That does make sense, but, unfortunately, requires the phone to be rooted first, which is an inherently dangerous task for people who are just looking to unlock and not root their phone. An unlock code costs only $8 online anyway.
Still, very interesting. Thanks for posting this!
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I know I was able to unlock my sensation 4g for free using this method..surely the sim unlock code has to be stored on the device itself because it cannot ping ATT servers if service is unavailable because a different sim has been inserted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
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Though I can't really comment on if an unlock trick like would work, I do recall a while back there was a statement made by AT&T saying that if you've had your account in good standing for 3 months, they'll issue an unlock code to you no questions asked.
might be a route to try.
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Though I can't really comment on if an unlock trick like would work, I do recall a while back there was a statement made by AT&T saying that if you've had your account in good standing for 3 months, they'll issue an unlock code to you no questions asked.
might be a route to try.
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Not for the Note, ATT will release unlock code for good standing account in August. 6 months for the Note. Call almost 8 CSs and they all said that
Yeah I am a tmobile customer and bought a note from a friend on ATT they wouldnt give him the unlock code until 3 months after purchase..I saw some pretty bad reviews on the $8 dollar site..i should have my note soon so ill tinker around with it for a bit and if i fail ill pay the 25 bucks to unlock it..
I used a similar unlock trick to unlock a cheap Samsung Dart (Mini) I got. It used the /dev/block and I forget the rest of it. Then using a Hex editor I just searched for the 8 digit unlock code. I bet something similar would work for the Note.
I have heard 6 months as well.
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Interesting... That does make sense, but, unfortunately, requires the phone to be rooted first, which is an inherently dangerous task for people who are just looking to unlock and not root their phone. An unlock code costs only $8 online anyway.
Still, very interesting. Thanks for posting this!
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Rooting is not inherently dangerous. It's these types of posts that scare off people from the rooting community. This seems like it would work pretty good for some people.
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Rooting is not inherently dangerous.
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IMO, any simple action which could instantly turn one's phone into a very expensive paperweight through no fault of one's own is pretty dangerous. Add on top of that all the foreknowledge that must go into rooting a phone without error and things get even more dangerous.
I suppose we can agree to disagree, but until the tools to root phones become foolproof, I would never ever consider recommending someone who is not somewhat tech savvy to root their phone.
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It's these types of posts that scare off people from the rooting community.
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Again, IMO (and this is not directed at you) it's the attitude of many people on this site that scares people away from the rooting community. It's disheartening to see how often people are insulted on this forum just because they are trying to learn something. Again, not directed at you; just an observation of someone who is new to the forums and has read many threads...
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IMO, any simple action which could instantly turn one's phone into a very expensive paperweight through no fault of one's own is pretty dangerous. Add on top of that all the foreknowledge that must go into rooting a phone without error and things get even more dangerous.
I suppose we can agree to disagree, but until the tools to root phones become foolproof, I would never ever consider recommending someone who is not somewhat tech savvy to root their phone.
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Rooting is not inherently dangerous, as already stated above, and it is nearly impossible to hard brick your phone. If one does manage to hard brick their phone, it can't be said that it was achieved through no fault of their own, because it would take a concerted effort, or blatant disregard for safety, to achieve this. Even soft bricks are exceedingly rare if you simply follow directions.
Of course, it goes without saying that people who don't know what they are doing should not be messing with their devices. There are warnings on the top of every ROM/kernel/root/recovery thread telling you that you WILL brick if you do something wrong. But it's not like rooting or flashing custom ROMs is rocket science. All the hard work has already been done. All that is required from the end user is carefully read the instructions.
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Hey Im sure it may have been brought up before but I didnt find much in the search area.
I dont want a fight or two I just figured XDA Dev was all about modding/flashing/unlocking PDA/Smartphones? Why is there no free unlocking kit? Also all the paid versions go directly to the XDA forum web site and not into anyone elses pocket?
Dont misunderstand im not here to ***** about whats going on but I thought thats what this site was about - Developing -. If the site really needs help with donations and thats the whole point of this then thats fine. I just remember back in the HTC Wizard days it was all for fun.
Anyhow I'm about to e-Gay a fuze right now im pretty excited and as always keep up the good work XDA
best regards,
eddy
wrong subforum, and this HAS been gone over 100s of times, so why did you even bother posting this useless thread?
have you tried here?
Yeah I visited that website but it doesn't mention that its going towards the forums. Is it going 100% towards the developer? I know it says Donation I was just wondering. If the developer wants money for the software thats fine if people want the phone unlocked they will pay it.
I was just asking this because Its always been a free community from what I remember.
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*shrug* They have good rules, I like em.
1) If you give back to the community, they give you it for free -- so if you're a 'developer' or just plain help, they help you
2) SIM locked or locked, most apps don't care what SIM card is in there
From what I saw from the thread, they just want to charge 'free loading' users for their work, while still allowing community members/participants free services.
Props to them, IMO, They gave me a free unlock and I still donated.
am not really sure if you get the idea or the concept of developing an idea. but im pretty sure youd agree that any developer can do whatever they wish with what they develop irregardless of whatever community you can enumerate. unfortunately, the developer as he says:
"you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something."
the developer has developed a sim unlocker for free for the the hermes (of which i have used) and probably its about time he gets compensated for what he deserves.
Tough **** indeed.
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am not really sure if you get the idea or the concept of developing an idea. but im pretty sure youd agree that any developer can do whatever they wish with what they develop irregardless of whatever community you can enumerate. unfortunately, the developer as he says:
"you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something."
the developer has developed a sim unlocker for free for the the hermes (of which i have used) and probably its about time he gets compensated for what he deserves.
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Anyone fool enough to talk to potential customers in that manner deserves NOTHING. If he's that much of a jerk in general, what's going to happen when you need customer service? Is someone that speaks to the public in that manner someone you wish to trust?
There are cheaper solutions on ebay and they won't treat you like garbage.
This has been discussed several times.
BTW. Olipro has unlocked a whole lot of devices, most of them for free, he developed custom SPLs which allow us to flash any ROM to almost any device.
The so called Hard-SPLs always have been provided for free.
Which is amazing, this will allow us to truly customize our devices, be grateful for that, there are only few who can accomplish this patching of the bootloaders, and make flashing relatively safe!
Mostly the n00bs and the non-contributers have been *****ing @ him, mainly because lately the SIM unlock isn't free for them.
And this is something I don't understand: if you buy a locked phone it is heavily subsidized, you pay less for the device BECAUSE it is locked.
The small donation that is asked for the non contributing part of the community is peanuts in regards to the actual cost of a non-cloked device.
So even if you have to pay for the unlock: your device is still way cheaper than if you bought the unlocked device to start with.
Olipro's unlock method works even if the carrier relocked the device, you can't say that from the code sellers (they have only the HTC codes, not the carrier codes if they changed it).
And it also gives you the opportunity to secure-unlock the device and change the CID.
Nobody else is offering this.
Yeah, I'm not entering my name anywhere. Thanks anyway, HTC. Besides, AlphaRev and Unrevoked already did your job for you.
Since our last update, many of you have asked how the bootloader unlocking process will actually work, and in particular why HTC's most recently released devices still have a locked bootloader. Rest assured we're making progress toward our goal to roll out the first software updates in August to support unlocking for the global HTC Sensation, followed soon by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. Because unlocking the bootloader provides extensive control over the device and modifications may cause operation, security and experience issues, new devices will continue to ship locked but will support user-initiated unlocking using a new Web-based tool.
So how will this work? The Web tool, which will launch this month, requires that you register an account with a valid e-mail address and accept legal disclaimers that unlocking may void all or parts of your warranty. Then plug in your phone to a computer with the Android SDK loaded to retrieve a device identifier token, which you can then enter into the Web tool to receive a unique unlock key via e-mail. Finally, apply the key to your device and unlocking will be initiated on your phone.
We're excited to bring bootloader unlocking to developers and enthusiasts, and we feel this new Web tool will meet your needs and continue to provide customers with the best experience. Thanks to the community for supporting these efforts!
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I figured they would want a way to know exactly which phones were unlocked. i'll stick with alpha revs method.
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Yeah, I'm not entering my name anywhere. Thanks anyway, HTC. Besides, AlphaRev and Unrevoked already did your job for you.
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wow. some actual clarity on what they plan to do.
nice to see an update !
but for the evo3d is a bit late
Lmao,actually according to their explanation,their method sounds just like AlpharevX.It would be hilarious if alpharevX sold their method to HTC.
That blows. They couldn't just ship the damn thing unlocked.
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Lmao,actually according to their explanation,their method sounds just like AlpharevX.It would be hilarious if alpharevX sold their method to HTC.
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Well, if he did I hope he didn't sell them the serial numbers of the ones already unlocked jk
I guess it all makes sense (har har).
If it makes the carriers happy, who cares if this is how they do it? I'm sure whenever they release a bootloader unlocker someone on XDA will take it and make it so you can do it without the email/key. We're gonna come out ahead either way.
Well i guess now they will know when we unlock our bootloader and warranty I don't care since I don't use the warranty anyways
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
I'd be curious to know from Google, Sprint and Samsung how many problems they have from the NexusS4G being very easily unlockable...I doubt it's very many...and HTC should suck on that.
I don't know if that's as much of a fair comparison - with the Nexus being near stock I wouldn't expect them to be flashed/bricked nearly as much as with the Evo4G.
The OG Evo gained so much from flashing - features, kernels, whole new versions of sense. And it had so many updates over the life of the phone, making for different rooting methods and having people flash their phones many many times, making it one of if not the most developed phone we have seen.
I'm quite certain the brick count on those were some of the highest anyone's ever seen as well. That's after all the returns from dead pixels, bad charging ports, and what have you. You can understand a carrier/manufacturer's wishing to prevent all that.
By the same token, it feels like HTC benefits greatly from the development community, perhaps using a lot of what they see here in their own updates (maybe even waiting for people to fix their bugs). They definitely see value in unlocking phones, which I guess we should be happy about.
As long as HTC keeps their unlocked policy I will remain a loyal customer.
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I don't know if that's as much of a fair comparison - with the Nexus being near stock I wouldn't expect them to be flashed/bricked nearly as much as with the Evo4G.
The OG Evo gained so much from flashing - features, kernels, whole new versions of sense. And it had so many updates over the life of the phone, making for different rooting methods and having people flash their phones many many times, making it one of if not the most developed phone we have seen.
I'm quite certain the brick count on those were some of the highest anyone's ever seen as well. That's after all the returns from dead pixels, bad charging ports, and what have you. You can understand a carrier/manufacturer's wishing to prevent all that.
By the same token, it feels like HTC benefits greatly from the development community, perhaps using a lot of what they see here in their own updates (maybe even waiting for people to fix their bugs). They definitely see value in unlocking phones, which I guess we should be happy about.
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Were there that many bricked E4G's? I don't recall hearing about that many of them in my tenure on the forum...admittedly I barely spent any time in General that year as Development was bustling from before day 1.
...but, per capita I doubt the brick-count was that far off the average for any other popular phone worth rooting. God knows I did horrible things to mine and never even had to fix it via adb/fastboot.... it was a very popular phone even among the average joe.
I know that HTC benefits greatly from the dev community. Where do you think they got the FPS-unlock from? Among other things. That's how open source works and is designed to work. That's also why myself and others were so shocked with the whole 'locking' fiasco.
...now, aside from our own speculation about how high the brick rate may or may not have been why not speculate about something more productive: How LOW the brick rate could be if they utilized eMMC's secure-write technology to make a 'mega-recovery' partition that would be locked and even WE wouldn't want to unlock it....that could be used in a worst case scenario to fully restore a phone to stock...to enable the unlocking that WE want and reduce the (understandable) liability of allowing full control that they want. We get unlock, they get insulation from liability of allowing such a feature (that most people STILL wouldn't know about or care about)....why don't they do that? eMMC makes that trivial to implement (as we found out the hard way)...neglecting the fact that they could have utilized any number of simpler technologies to accomplish the same thing even before eMMC...why not?
That's a topic for further speculation (get your tinfoil hats ready), but, why don't they do that? Play both sides of the field. No voided warranties, no brick returns, no pissed off modders....win win win, right? The carrier doesn't want that? Cool, let us know, we'll flock to the carrier that allows it...something tells me Sprint would be that underdog...
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Lmao,actually according to their explanation,their method sounds just like AlpharevX.It would be hilarious if alpharevX sold their method to HTC.
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Not at all like what AlphaRevX did. The only reason they had the serial number check was because it was in Beta so they could shut down their serial generator and stop people using their unlock if they found a problem with it.
This HTC method makes sense, and I think it's fair. Their tool only needs to hook up to your phone to get the device identifier token, the unlock actually happens on the phone itself. This way HTC gets a list of unlocked phones so when people go for support you can't lie to them that your phone was unlocked, but people can have day one unlocks on any phone from HTC going forward.
So now HTC wants to know who exactly is unlocking there phones??
Nice try you sneaky basterds
What's wrong with them knowing if you're unlocked? They have to do that... Otherwise insurance companies would get upset. This is legit and it if people screw their phones up due to user error while unlocked then they shouldn't be able to file a claim.
This also let's them see just how many people want to be unlocked so they don't try and take it away from us again
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What's wrong with them knowing if you're unlocked? They have to do that... Otherwise insurance companies would get upset. This is legit and it if people screw their phones up due to user error while unlocked then they shouldn't be able to file a claim.
This also let's them see just how many people want to be unlocked so they don't try and take it away from us again
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yeah....I dunno. They could (relatively) easily make the phones nearly brick-proof (see my above post) yet they do not. Why? I'm almost irritated by all of the altruistic sentiment for 'doing the right thing'....not because of the altruism, I actually find that refreshing and endearing. It's more because they could take steps to nearly eliminate the potential for bricking (and in doing so insulate the insurance company from liability...making that a moot point), but that people are defending a position that needn't exist.
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i guess it all makes sense (har har).
If it makes the carriers happy, who cares if this is how they do it? I'm sure whenever they release a bootloader unlocker someone on xda will take it and make it so you can do it without the email/key. We're gonna come out ahead either way.
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Haha, sounds exactly how alpharev did it...hmm, maybe they tore it out of alpharevs hands, i dont know, sounds fishy.
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yeah....I dunno. They could (relatively) easily make the phones nearly brick-proof (see my above post) yet they do not. Why? I'm almost irritated by all of the altruistic sentiment for 'doing the right thing'....not because of the altruism, I actually find that refreshing and endearing. It's more because they could take steps to nearly eliminate the potential for bricking (and in doing so insulate the insurance company from liability...making that a moot point), but that people are defending a position that needn't exist.
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You don't know why they're doing it. Maybe they wanna track the people that abuse the crap out of wireless tether... Maybe it's for other reasons. Who cares, they are unlocking it for us and that's all that matters. I have nothing to hide when I root so I care less. If you're upset about it then there are other options.
People are getting exactly what they wanted and they still find a reason to cry... Get over it already
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I'm not a programmer. Actually starting school for programming in a month, but what makes it hard for Devs to unlock them selves?
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128-bit encryption key
Which is quite interesting. I am guessing they did it to prevent people from bricking their systems and returning them when in fact they are probably getting more returns now than they would have had the bootloader not been encrypted.
yup, by now the devs would probably have custom roms fixing all the issues...
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yup, by now the devs would probably have custom roms fixing all the issues...
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128-bit encryption key
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this means there are 128 ^2 possible combinations to test before finding the one for your device. This amount of tries would take years to brute force (trying every single one till you found it) even on today's most powerful super computers.
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this means there are 128 ^2 possible combinations to test before finding the one for your device. This amount of tries would take years to brute force (trying every single one till you found it) even on today's most powerful super computers.
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So close. It's actually 2^128. That's two to the power of one-hundred twenty eight.
Question, when you unlock the bootloader your warranty becomes void. Will there be a way to re-lock for warranty purposes?
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Question, when you unlock the bootloader your warranty becomes void. Will there be a way to re-lock for warranty purposes?
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no one is really going to know how it all works for asus until asus releases their tool with the specifics on everything.
but as far as the law goes, if whatever you need warranty work for has nothing to do with you loading custom roms or messing with the kernel etc, you should have no problem sending it in for warranted repairs.
ie, the power button is broken or the screen dies
Rooting can become illegal soon
But once your unlocked warranty void forever because they track serial
tylermaciaszek said:
Rooting can become illegal soon
But once your unlocked warranty void forever because they track serial
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I read that is what apple is doing and they are close to passing the bill. Its ridiculous, rooting is not all about pirating, its mostly for performance.
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Which is quite interesting. I am guessing they did it to prevent people from bricking their systems and returning them when in fact they are probably getting more returns now than they would have had the bootloader not been encrypted.
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IIRC Asus did explicitly say that it was nVidia forcing them to lock the bootloader on the Prime. This could of course be BS, but after such a public statement saying this, nVidia would have gone apesh*t if it was not the truth.
It's all to do with the Tegra3 and the Prime being basically a prototype released only for mass beta testing. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Still love my Prime though.
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Rooting can become illegal soon
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It doesn't have to be! It is not a bill, but an exemption to the DMCA. If we can show our support by contacting the Copyright office and showing them that jailbreaking/rooting is beneficial, they can extend the exemption. The EFF has more info on how to contact the Copyright office and how to request that other electronics be included (did you know that tablets are NOT covered in the exemption?) like consoles, tablets, and more.
https://www.eff.org/pages/jailbreaking-not-crime-tell-copyright-office-free-your-devices
XDA has 337,000 active members. This effects all of us. Let them know it should not be illegal to use your electronics however you wish!
It does not affect ALL of us by any means, however, I have already shown my support by donating to the EFF. It's disgusting that a device that you have paid your hard earned cash for can be ruled over with an iron fist as though you are simply renting it for the duration of it's life....
.... Oh that business model sounds familiar.
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It does not affect ALL of us by any means...
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I assume that if you are on here, you are either a dev or get support from a dev. In either case, making rooting illegal again would give manufacturers cause to turn a deaf ear to us, making it more difficult to impossible to work with these devices and in turn help others. Even if you have never rooted a phone or even heard of jailbreaking, you would still (indirectly, yes) be affected, since fewer will want to put themselves in that position.
Devs will usually find a way around these locks, but the level of support will not be there as they will think twice about breaking the law (in the US at least).
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I assume that if you are on here, you are either a dev or get support from a dev. In either case, making rooting illegal again would give manufacturers cause to turn a deaf ear to us, making it more difficult to impossible to work with these devices and in turn help others. Even if you have never rooted a phone or even heard of jailbreaking, you would still (indirectly, yes) be affected, since fewer will want to put themselves in that position.
Devs will usually find a way around these locks, but the level of support will not be there as they will think twice about breaking the law (in the US at least).
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I concede, you make a very good point. I was referring to the fact that I am in the UK and therefore it does not DIRECTLY affect me, but again, you ARE right.
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I concede, you make a very good point. I was referring to the fact that I am in the UK and therefore it does not DIRECTLY affect me, but again, you ARE right.
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Thank you for supporting the EFF! All I can do at the moment is to support by getting people motivated.
monkey10120 said:
I read that is what apple is doing and they are close to passing the bill. Its ridiculous, rooting is not all about pirating, its mostly for performance.
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Rooting can be considered as illegal as it uses hacking methods, and so break the software that belongs to the company made the device, even if the software is in majority open source, there are always closed parts that are concern by trading laws.
And be precise please, the'illegal' rooting stuff is ONLY concerning USA.
Plenty of places with some very smart devs where rooting will never become illegal. Russia as an example, or China (where the exemption would only apply to US built product). If some countries want to kill off their engineering and software development communities, plenty of other places in the world will be only too happy to step in and take over.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, android is open source. So then there's no copyright infringement unless you hack the apps or something. IOS on the other hand isn't open source so jailbreaking it could be seen as infringing. But I still disagree that rooting/ jailbreaking should be illegal.
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Hawkysoft said:
Yeye i know...
Another person not happy about Asus's acts...
My problem? the bootloader not being fully unlocked... halve a promiss which has been made by asus IMO.
So therefor i sended them an email asking if they will change the unlock tool so we can use NVFLASH as well..
if i get an reply, i'll post it here... >.<
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Cool thanks. This would be awesome. Save people from a few brick situations.
The only reason they may not is because it gives access to DRM information, correct?
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Cool thanks. This would be awesome. Save people from a few brick situations.
The only reason they may not is because it gives access to DRM information, correct?
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as far as i know, that was the reason why we wouldn't get any google music store or w/e it was support? which i never used and heared about before all this stuff anyway
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as far as i know, that was the reason why we wouldn't get any google music store or w/e it was support? which i never used and heared about before all this stuff anyway
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Yea, I have never once considered buying a movie/music there. That is what Netflix/Spotify/Grooveshark is far
I would be 100% okay with a second unlock tool that will further unlock but disable access to DRM material on the market
If I were to hypothetically steal music/movies, It would be on my PC anyway where it is much easier. Hypothetically speaking
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Yea, I have never once considered buying a movie/music there. That is what Netflix/Spotify/Grooveshark is far
I would be 100% okay with a second unlock tool that will further unlock but disable access to DRM material on the market
If I were to hypothetically steal music/movies, It would be on my PC anyway where it is much easier. Hypothetically speaking
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lol I know right? They're punishing you by not giving you access to something no one uses anyway. Great way to make sure they don't get customers.
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lol I know right? They're punishing you by not giving you access to something no one uses anyway. Great way to make sure they don't get customers.
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that would be okey if they denied us the access, but in trade for that they should have unlocked the entire bootloader, and not on the current state where we are screwed on both sides (and not the pleasant way)..
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Just saw this thread funny i had to rant about the same thing last night. IMO if they're gonna fully void our warranty they HAVE to fully unlock it. Anything else is bull****. Not having nvflash and fastboot is a bigger issue than all others combined for me.
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Just saw this thread funny i had to rant about the same thing last night. IMO if they're gonna fully void our warranty they HAVE to fully unlock it. Anything else is bull****. Not having nvflash and fastboot is a bigger issue than all others combined for me.
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its like giving away a car without an engine, nor a spot for one... ;/
and that noob @ asus... wow.. serious... i thought they had more brighter people working there...
also without being capable of using nvflash and fastboot, i won't unlock it i think..
and what if they release a new tool? would it be capable to use at the 'unlocked' devices as well? which im afraid off it won't at start of it...
post the email. We should have the whole forum send them an email. OR lets do another BBB complaint
i just used contact us @ asus.com... you won't get to see a true email adress, but at the bright hand, you don't have to fill in your serial number, just fill in like not-needed i did that as well
[update] seems like email 1 has been forwarded, since it has been changed activity to: your suggestion has been received by us and is being progressed.......etc...
email2 still no changes
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Looks good. But man if you get a real response from Asus at least proof read first. Everyone appreciates professionalism.
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AdamHart612 said:
Looks good. But man if you get a real response from Asus at least proof read first. Everyone appreciates professionalism.
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i know don't worry, but to helpdesk workers... i can't help it but my anger speaks, these people think we are stupid and will accept every answer they are giving..
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I can see a few reasons where it would make sense.
0.) Maybe they can't officially. I'm not sure where TF101's nvflash stuff comes from but I could see nVidia making it an issue not to just throw it around willy nilly. Who knows, they could be held liable or risk damaging their contracts with suppliers (like nVidia).
1.) If it could "Undo" the unlocker, well d'uh we're not gonna get it in any legit way.
2.) Maybe they're fed up with enough leaks and general issues that they don't care, after all two new models coming on line soon. And I do expect even if ASUS isn't replacing the Prime, stores will replace it with the new budget model and the Infinity.
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IF unlocking the boot loader was for rooting(which this could be the case IF fastboot was working), they are basically contradicting themselves. They're saying since the boot loader is unlocked we can now root. The way you root when you unlock the boot loader is by changing ro-secure= from 1 to 0 in default.prop in the boot.img(unsecure boot.img), then flash the unsecure boot.img with fastboot. This gives you a root terminal and adb remount to mount system r/w. This is the proper way to do it.
The guy in that email is full of ****, or has no clue what he's talking about. Most likely both
It makes absolutely NO sense for them to cripple fastboot. Nvflash, I can somewhat see in the eyes of some paper pushing pu$$y, but not fastboot.
maybe someone else should try to email... ;/
So from what I understand, either HTC or AT&T has plans of dicking over the populous when it comes to the bootloader. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't have any updates on the issue so i don't know if it's happened yet or not. In any case, if you end up in a situation where you cannot obtain the unlock token from HTC for the bootloader, try out Unlock Phone Bootloader by Unlock Root. I personally have used Unlock Root time and time again to root and unroot my old LG MyTouch and my husband's Q with no issues. No need to use command prompt. Just plug in your phone to your comp, enable USB debugging and hit start once the program is on it way. I completely forgot about the bootloader program during the whole process of obtaining drivers and getting ADB and what not. I only remembered just now becaue I'm fixing to root my phone and wanted to see if Unlock Root supported our phone. It's new to the US market, but not the international. So I didn't use the Unlock Bootloader. But, if i ever have to turn this phone in for whatever horrible reason, I'll keep this in mind for myself.
Anyways, Get the program. Give it a shot. It's literally really easy to use. No drivers and command prompts and the like. I'm about to root my phone with the UR program, if it's supported. Have fun. And post if the UB program was actually a success.
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Not sure if serious or Spam....
gunnyman said:
Not sure if serious or Spam....
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Sure looks like an effing ad to me!
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Hogwash. OP should know better than to post methods not tested on the device in discussion.
SPAM
You cannot use the same partition hacks that were used on the previous HTC models.
Awe sh!t the big guns have shown up!
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droidiac13 said:
Awe sh!t the big guns have shown up!
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Well sites like that steal our hard work and monetize it.
designgears said:
SPAM
You cannot use the same partition hacks that were used on the previous HTC models.
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Not spam clowns. I'm that good at selling a product. Do what you want, it was a suggestion. I said try it. If it worked, post it so others will know and feel comfortable trying it out. Or don't try it. I could give ZERO ***** what you do.
And by the way, this OP says you can't know if something works if you don't test it first. Someone has to test it. Just like trying out a new hack, or ROM or even an app, is all testing. You know, that thing called Beta testing? But what do I know, right? I've only been Rooting and romming for 2.5 years.
beaups said:
Well sites like that steal our hard work and monetize it.
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And Oh Nos for someone taking the time to make a program that compiles all the "hard work" into one place and makes it easier for many to root their devices, especially those who run into issues like getting ADB to sync on their comps or figure out what SDK files to use. And "bad developer" for charging a fee for their hard work in making said program. Some people ask for donations. You pay for full version apps in the Play Store when you really like the Lite versions. Bad, Bad developer for embracing capitalism. Providing a service and charging a fee. But wait! Unlock Phone and Unlock Root are both FREE unless your phone falls under some special circumstance that requires the "full version".
oooooooo kayyyyyyyyy
gunnyman said:
oooooooo kayyyyyyyyy
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Exactly.
whitetiger_0603 said:
And Oh Nos for someone taking the time to make a program that compiles all the "hard work" into one place and makes it easier for many to root their devices, especially those who run into issues like getting ADB to sync on their comps or figure out what SDK files to use. And "bad developer" for charging a fee for their hard work in making said program. Some people ask for donations. You pay for full version apps in the Play Store when you really like the Lite versions. Bad, Bad developer for embracing capitalism. Providing a service and charging a fee. But wait! Unlock Phone and Unlock Root are both FREE unless your phone falls under some special circumstance that requires the "full version".
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Its a shame you've been rooting and romming that long yet you're still such a noob, not to phones but to the community in general.
No one is against capital at least not the ones you directed that at in this thread.
If I donate my time to build something that I release for free, because I want to do something for the community, and then someone else decides to use my work and my code and sell it for profit, that's stealing my work and selling it as their own.
All that aside I just plain don't like things such as these because people who couldn't find the instructions and run ADB or use the sdk don't need to be unlocking their bootloaders.
I spend a few hours a night teaching users how to use ADB and fastboot, helping with remote troubleshooting. I also spend a couple more hours answering questions. I could easily charge a small fee send them a script or remotely do it for them and cut them loose. But I enjoy this community and the more people who learn the fundamentals the better the community is. The last thing I want to do is capitalize on something which has the ill effect of me surrounding myself with a bunch of uneducated helpless noobs who will screw things up royally, because a large portion of those users will commit warranty or insurance fraud simply because they don't have the ability to pull a logcat.
I'm a greedy bastard I put in about 70 hours a week with my businesses so I can work my way to the top. I have no problem with capitalism. But there is a place for ethics in capitalism and without it, things go downhill.
I didn't mean to sound to harsh, but when I know the sacrifices some of the people like beaups and jcase have made such as spending thousands of dollars on hardware to get the process to a point its safe and anyone who can read directions can achive unlock, it irks me to see someone jump on their case or put quotation marks to insinuate their hard work is something other than coming home from the real job and sacrificing sleep, family, and social obligations just to better the community as a whole.
I know you didn't realize the hornets nest you were about to uncover, and I hope readers realize I don't have malicious intent.
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whitetiger_0603 said:
So from what I understand, either HTC or AT&T has plans of dicking over the populous when it comes to the bootloader. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't have any updates on the issue so i don't know if it's happened yet or not. In any case, if you end up in a situation where you cannot obtain the unlock token from HTC for the bootloader, try out Unlock Phone Bootloader by Unlock Root. I personally have used Unlock Root time and time again to root and unroot my old LG MyTouch and my husband's Q with no issues. No need to use command prompt. Just plug in your phone to your comp, enable USB debugging and hit start once the program is on it way. I completely forgot about the bootloader program during the whole process of obtaining drivers and getting ADB and what not. I only remembered just now becaue I'm fixing to root my phone and wanted to see if Unlock Root supported our phone. It's new to the US market, but not the international. So I didn't use the Unlock Bootloader. But, if i ever have to turn this phone in for whatever horrible reason, I'll keep this in mind for myself.
Anyways, Get the program. Give it a shot. It's literally really easy to use. No drivers and command prompts and the like. I'm about to root my phone with the UR program, if it's supported. Have fun. And post if the UB program was actually a success.
Link to site: http://unlockroot.com/
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A) wont work on this phone, if it does then its just grabbing a token from HTC and unlocking like another chinese program out there is doing
B) its a thief's program, stealing work from people like me.
jcase said:
A) wont work on this phone, if it does then its just grabbing a token from HTC and unlocking like another chinese program out there is doing
B) its a thief's program, stealing work from people like me.
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c) thread closed and link removed.