Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
phositadc said:
Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't say that it's much an issue, but that the international roms show Att true signal strength. For example I have one bar of LTE in my house and my wife's iPhone 5 range from 2 or 3. My LTE speeds are almost double hers. The bars being shown whether on stock Att or international doesn't mean much. A good way to check signal strength would be to compare your db's.
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No issues here. DBM signal, speeds all awesome on the International Roms. AT&T likes to make you believe that your signal is better than it really is.
Signal bars are a lie.
I have -95db signal and decent LTE speed
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Signal bars are a lie.
I have -95db signal and decent LTE speed
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Thanks to all for the feedback.
Just a note though, that some aren't complaining about the bars, but about actually dropping LTE connections where other AT&T phones do not.
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Thanks to all for the feedback.
Just a note though, that some aren't complaining about the bars, but about actually dropping LTE connections where other AT&T phones do not.
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Yeah, that happens with me in my house sometime (if in my pocket etc) . Somewhere in one of these threads someone mentions how the international will drop connection at about -115db or something and Att drops around -125db. So that could be the reason.
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I flashed my One to the Maximus 7 Rom and have noticed lower bars than usual. I live near a cell phone tower and all phones that I have had as well as others on ATT always have full bars while I can't seem to get more than 2-3. Today my phone started switching between H and LTE and acting weird while driving and it has never done that before. I'm on the latest 1.29 radio firmware and it hasn't helped...not sure how to fix it and for those saying this is just the true reading of signal, I doubt I would be getting such low signals when Im literally about 3 blocks away from a cell tower.
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I flashed my One to the Maximus 7 Rom and have noticed lower bars than usual. I live near a cell phone tower and all phones that I have had as well as others on ATT always have full bars while I can't seem to get more than 2-3. Today my phone started switching between H and LTE and acting weird while driving and it has never done that before. I'm on the latest 1.29 radio firmware and it hasn't helped...not sure how to fix it and for those saying this is just the true reading of signal, I doubt I would be getting such low signals when Im literally about 3 blocks away from a cell tower.
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I did notice this too. I definitely have lower bars and lower speed as well....I have trickdroid 5.1 installed. I tried the ATT version before getting the dev version and I did not have this issue.
TrickDroid and ARHD both show true signal bars, but they will also switch to 3g from LTE sooner than the stock ATT load. they seem to switch at aound -120db where ATT will hold out until -130db. if you select att from the ARHD load, it hold on till about -125, still not the same but it works.
Like another person said, the stock ATT ROMs show a non real signal strength, where the Int'l ROMs do. It's all about your actual data speeds and the dB signal. I'm running ARHD 7.0 and have zero reception trouble. LTE speeds are fine.
Just replace /system/framework/ext.jar from an AT&T ROM and you'll get the "fake" AT&T signal icons...
Yup
phositadc said:
Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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My Co-worker cant keep the LTE signal for longer than 10 minutes.... and the phone gets hot as heck...is yours hot?
HTC One AT&T Variant TrickDroid 5.2.1 ROM with AT&T tweaks.
RSRP(dBm): -105 to -110 avg. RSRQ(dB): -10 to -12 avg.
No LTE troubles but I did notice during the ROM install before I picked AT&T as carrier it flaked out a few times saying something else besides LTE and H and kept going back and forth.
TrickDroid rom with AOSP icons are showing 1 to 2 bars. - At the bottom!! Whereas my stock rom was showing like 3-4 bars all of the time at the house.
SpeedTest with both roms at my house (not on wifi) = 15M down. 10-20 AVG. regardless of ROM.
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I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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SurrealNetworks said:
I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
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I have One, Nexus 4, iPhone 5, they all have the exact signal level at any given location. Unless you're blocking the antenna causing attenuation.
Also, you should be monitoring RSRP and RSRQ. Not RSSI if you're on LTE. Get SignalCheck Pro and do some testing.
When I moved I stopped in Kansas City (one of T-Mobile's LTE markets) and I had no problems with LTE reception.
Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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Have you ever seen full LTE signal on your One? In areas where my Note 2 had four bars, my One has only two. Maybe I just received a lemon and an exchange will remedy the issue.
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I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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The HSPA+ signal strength of my One appears to be equal to that of my Note 2.
I get full LTE bars in Santa Clara, CA
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I get full bars in Vegas when in the lte areas
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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That's pretty much what I'm experiencing. I have a Galaxy S4 arriving tomorrow - I'll be sure to take networks measurements on both devices to compare performance of the two.
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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Same market, same signal as you. I think it's our coverage area though as I watch signal when I'm driving around the valley a lot and it def hits 4 or 5 bars of lte....but only right up against the towers....regardless I get great speeds though
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I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
If when mine arrives here in Taipei it shows lower bars I will take it in personally to their HTC office here in Taipei and ***** about it. Will try same SIM card in different smartphones to show differences If needed but will need to test first.
I don't quite understand what standard is to be expected. Is anything less of 30mb down on a cell phone really that unacceptable? I suppose it's reasonable if you're using hotspot for a laptop, but are we just talking about apps downloading data?
It might be that HTC didn't do well with function over form with the One in terms of signal reception. But I guess this may be the sacrifice you'll have to make.
Have you guys run speed tests rather than judging by signal bars alone? I've found that although my One displays two bars at my gym for "4g", I get completely crap signal, and can barely send out a Google voice text.. I've yet to run a speed test to see what exactly I'm getting in terms of d/u speeds.
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I have just received my HTC One yesterday. LTE is limited where I am, but when I have reached an area where LTE was available, I had full bars on mine. This was in Cupertino, CA.
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I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
I will be just happy when LTE actually goes live in my city. My HSPA+ speeds are really good. I just did a speedtest and go 18Mbps on my One and 13Mbps on my S4.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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That is correct. Both phones were displaying "4g LTE" during the tests.
Just a heads up for the unlucky AT&T HTC One owners that are in particular markets where their LTE speeds and signal are significantly degraded when using International based ROMs - I have verified that the problem has been fixed in the newly released TrickDroid 5.3.0. LTE speeds and signal strength now match the stock AT&T ROM. The signal strength was probably cosmetic, but data speeds are indeed much better.
good to know- i'll re-post this in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245952
might be of interest there..
henrybravo said:
Just a heads up for the AT&T HTC One owners that have noticed LTE speeds and signal are significantly degraded when using International based ROMs - I have verified that the problem has been fixed in the newly released TrickDroid 5.3.0. LTE speeds and signal strength now match the stock AT&T ROM.
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Never had a problem with speeds before the release and the "messed up" signal bars wasn't that big of a deal
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Never had a problem with speeds before the release and the "messed up" signal bars wasn't that big of a deal
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Good for you. The LTE speed problems on previous International ROMs are well documented on this forum. If you're in a strong signal area, the speeds are fine. If you're in a weaker area, the LTE speeds in the stock ROM were much faster than the previous International ROMs.
edit: I see in your sig that you're a team Venom/TrickDroid beta tester.
Maybe this is a dumb question.
Unlock the bootloader.
Install CWM.
Flash Trickdroid.
Is that correct? Or is there anything else I need to do? I'm coming from Samsung, so I just want to be sure.
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Good for you. The LTE speed problems on previous International ROMs are well documented on this forum. If you're in a strong signal area, the speeds are fine. If you're in a weaker area, the LTE speeds in the stock ROM were much faster than the previous International ROMs.
edit: I see in your sig that you're a team Venom/TrickDroid beta tester.
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There were no problems...
There was a visual display issue. My signal showed 1 or 3 bars. It was always green in my settings, it was never yellow, or absent. I also only had 3 bars when I got a 52mbs down and 28mbs up speedtest while in Austin.
Ya'all just don't know what a visual display issue is.
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There were no problems...
There was a visual display issue. My signal showed 1 or 3 bars. It was always green in my settings, it was never yellow, or absent. I also only had 3 bars when I got a 52mbs down and 28mbs up speedtest while in Austin.
Ya'all just don't know what a visual display issue is.
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I had always assumed the signal issue to be cosmetic, but how do you explain the lower data speeds?
Here are my previous comments on the matter I posted in another thread yesterday:
My LTE speeds are consistently lower on International ROMs versus the stock AT&T ROM. I've done quite a bit of testing at various times throughout the day to try to minimize the effects of varying network conditions and such (I've got 2 ROMs that I'll nandroid back and forth between). In areas of strong signal, the LTE speeds are the same between the AT&T and the various 1.29 International ROMs I've tried (ARHD and TrickDroid). However, at my home where I get just an "ok" signal, on the AT&T stock ROM the signal strength is usually 3 bars and my LTE speeds are 10-30 Mb/s. On International ROMs, the signal strength is 1-2 bars (usually 1) and my LTE speeds are almost always under 8 Mb/s. I realize that silly cosmetic signal "bars" are not as good as decibels when discussing signal strength, but using the app Network Signal Info, the signal strength just stays stuck at 85 dBm while connected via LTE, so I don't know what the real signal value is.
I thought there might be a difference in the RIL versions but the AT&T ROM and the International ROMs are all reporting "Qualcomm RIL 1.0" when queried with the getprop command. I checked the APN's and they are the same. I've tried the AT&T stock radio and the radio that came with 1.29.401.13 just for the heck of it and there was no change, then I saw that someone verified on this forum that the radio.img files in these 2 radios were the same and had the same CRC.
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I honestly never had any of these, and I've ran 7.0/7.2 of ARHD and I've seen just low bars. My battery was at 10% with 1d 23h time on it, and over 3 hours screen time. I was able to get fine data speeds at home, at work, and downtown Austin. I live on the fringes of austin, about 10-15 miles E of the city, and I work about 5 miles SE of downtown and had signals that were comparable to my One XL. Didn't notice anything switching to ARHD, tbh.
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I honestly never had any of these, and I've ran 7.0/7.2 of ARHD and I've seen just low bars. My battery was at 10% with 1d 23h time on it, and over 3 hours screen time. I was able to get fine data speeds at home, at work, and downtown Austin. I live on the fringes of austin, about 10-15 miles E of the city, and I work about 5 miles SE of downtown and had signals that were comparable to my One XL. Didn't notice anything switching to ARHD, tbh.
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One thing I learned from my HTC Inspire days that seems to have been forgotten around here is that all AT&T markets are not the same. Judging by a couple of posts in this thread, apparently Austin, Springfield and NYC don't have this problem, where as my market (Tulsa) did have the speed problem on International ROMs.
Back when I had my HTC Inspire, running International ROMs would cause my HSPA data speeds to be under 1 MB/s. A lot of other people thought I was crazy because they didn't have the same problem on their Inspires, but a few people did have the problem. After a long thread I created it was finally determined that the "wap.cingular" APN that came on all the international ROMs was the fault, but only in certain markets. In some markets like mine, you had to manually configure a "phone" APN to get full HSPA speeds.
The only reason I brought up the previous paragraph is because apparently a similar situation existed where there was some configuration setting in the HTC One International ROMs that was causing slowdowns in some markets, that apparently got fixed in the new TrickDroid. And history has repeated itself here today, where people come in here saying the problem didn't exist and "ya'all just don't know what a visual display issue is".
I've had no issues with data speeds here in NYC. I get the same speeds on an international ROM as I do on the AT&T ROM. I've been using the pta apn on both.
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I've had no issues with data speeds here in NYC. I get the same speeds on an international ROM as I do on the AT&T ROM. I've been using the pta apn on both.
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Noted. Unfortunately that wasn't true in the Tulsa market. Same thing happened on the HTC Inspire two years ago where some markets needed a fix. Unlike the Inspire however, the One fix doesn't seem to be APN related.
henrybravo said:
Just a heads up for the unlucky AT&T HTC One owners that are in particular markets where their LTE speeds and signal are significantly degraded when using International based ROMs - I have verified that the problem has been fixed in the newly released TrickDroid 5.3.0. LTE speeds and signal strength now match the stock AT&T ROM. The signal strength was probably cosmetic, but data speeds are indeed much better.
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Does torxx even claim to have done something to fix the speeds? If he said he did nothing, then I'm guessing it's just placebo.
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I wondered why my signal was lower. Hopfully renovate rom does the fixes too.
I personally havent had speed issues w/ international roms,
however I do have some major status bar issues with the new version of trick droid.
fix-this! said:
I wondered why my signal was lower. Hopfully renovate rom does the fixes too.
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it wasnt lower it was just displaying wrong
CheesyNutz said:
it wasnt lower it was just displaying wrong
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Not even wrong! AT&T rom lies!
Just out of curiosity, seems there is a lot of problems with Aroma on this device. I know lots of Samsung ROM's used it, and lots didn't. Is there a reason most the ROM's use Aroma on this device? Or is it just a convenience thing?
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Just out of curiosity, seems there is a lot of problems with Aroma on this device. I know lots of Samsung ROM's used it, and lots didn't. Is there a reason most the ROM's use Aroma on this device? Or is it just a convenience thing?
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Supposedly the troubles with Aroma are common on phones with 1080 displays. Even though the international HTC One has been out for 2 months (and other 1080 phones even longer), the problem hasn't been fixed yet because the main developer of Aroma doesn't have a 1080 phone to troubleshoot and fix the problem. I imagine that the developers are reluctant to go back to the old method since Aroma makes customization of the installation very easy for end users.
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Supposedly the troubles with Aroma are common on phones with 1080 displays. Even though the international HTC One has been out for 2 months (and other 1080 phones even longer), the problem hasn't been fixed yet because the main developer of Aroma doesn't have a 1080 phone to troubleshoot and fix the problem. I imagine that the developers are reluctant to go back to the old method since Aroma makes customization of the installation very easy for end users.
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Did it work for you the first time? Or?
Kurant1 said:
Did it work for you the first time? Or?
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Nope, during my very first ROM flash, Aroma locked up immediately when I hit the first onscreen button. I thought maybe I had a corrupt zip file, but after verifying MD5 then I started checking around and noticed that almost everyone was having Aroma issues. I was surprised because I had been flashing Aroma ROMs for a year on my Galaxy phones with no problems, and then I read about the 1080 problem. If the issue really is related to the 1080 resolution, then chances are the S4 folks will be having problems as well. I've tried all the suggested workarounds with inconsistent results. It really comes down to just retrying the ROM installation over and over again until it gets through to the end of the installation without locking up.
Hello,
I'm new to this thread as I've been a HTC user forever.
I just got my first of many N3's last week and it seems that I have very low signal in a lot of places where I typically get strong signal.
For example on my HTC Evo 4G LTE I always get 5 bars and there was rarely any dropped calls at my home and office.
On the N3 I now typically only have 1-3 bars.
I'm sure its NOT a SPRINT network issue but a phone issue. Does any one else experience this issue? Is there a fix to get better signal?
Here is what I did with the sprint and verizon N3.
Sprint:
Purchased at Best Buy and had low signal issue and returned it.
Purchased at Sprint Store had low signal issue and I still have this phone.
Verizon:
Purchased at Verizon store and had low signal issue . They suggested exchanging the SIM card which I did but didnt change the signal strength.
Exchanged it for a different N3 and still had the same issue so I've returned it.
djscissorhands said:
Hello,
I'm new to this thread as I've been a HTC user forever.
I just got my first of many N3's last week and it seems that I have very low signal in a lot of places where I typically get strong signal.
For example on my HTC Evo 4G LTE I always get 5 bars and there was rarely any dropped calls at my home and office.
On the N3 I now typically only have 1-3 bars.
I'm sure its NOT a SPRINT network issue but a phone issue. Does any one else experience this issue? Is there a fix to get better signal?
Here is what I did with the sprint and verizon N3.
Sprint:
Purchased at Best Buy and had low signal issue and returned it.
Purchased at Sprint Store had low signal issue and I still have this phone.
Verizon:
Purchased at Verizon store and had low signal issue . They suggested exchanging the SIM card which I did but didnt change the signal strength.
Exchanged it for a different N3 and still had the same issue so I've returned it.
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Is it actual signal strength your concerned about or is it bar strength in the notification area? Also you can't compare verizon to sprint signal as a fair comparison as they will be different in different areas. Go into your settings and look at the actual signal strength of both phones. They will be measured in dbm.
i'm concerned with the amount of bars in the notification area which has a direct correlation to the amount of dbm in the settings. the sprint phone fluctuates between -91 dbm and -100 dbm.
I was testing a theory that the lte radio had something to do with it so I just went into settings/mobile network/perferred network mode and switched from "LTE/CDMA" to "CDMA" and the phone rebooted and wham , now i have 5 bars and -69 dbm. Something with the lte is messing with the phone. WTH!!!
That means to get a good signal i have to be in CDMA and only get 3g service. Why is this?
I'm out have no explanation. I have/had that problem too, people at the sprint store tells me its a issue of where the software in the phone isn't recognizing the lte the way it should and that a software fix is coming but no one know when. I was dropping so many calls (89% of them per sprint) on the stock rom I was ready to go back to my note 2, but after flashing a different rom I have only dropped one call since rooting and switching roms .
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I don't know if LTE functions on the same frequency as 3g. As a rule from amateur radio, the higher the frequency the transmitter operates on, the shorter distance it travels. 800mhz usually has better penetration of buildings than 3g or 4g if they are on the 1.2ghz+ range. You will need more towers closer together to get better signal overall in the GHz range. Because of cost, I don't think anyone is going to put up more towers in the beginning. Years ago, the guesstimate of putting up a single tower was a million dollars. This is accounting for all costs to go from nothing to a fully functional self standing tower. Costs might be different now but I would say that it's safe to assume that they are putting LTE on existing towers. This is why LTE signal doesn't seem as far reaching as lower frequency technologies. This is as simple of an explanation as I can think of. Until they start widespread rolling out LTE on nextel's 800-900mhz range, and they release phones that take advantage of those bands, you're just going to have to deal with it with what you have as a phone. Spark and ex-nextel LTE transmitters "should" help throughput tremendously once they have the bugs ironed out.
Does anyone else notice that the LTE signal on this phone always seems on the weak end? For example, with the T-Mobile cell site about 10 yards away, my LTE reception is -90-95dbm. When sitting that close with my AT&T iPhone 5 (work phone) the signal is about -75-80dbm. What gives? I also notice that the phone does hold onto weak LTE signals, but I am seeing weak LTE signal more often than not. I have seen a -115dbm-120dbm LTE signal. Yes, data still works, my only concern though is that the battery life is getting sucked out of my phone?
Running stock, T-Mobile also likes to show 5 bars for a -109dbm LTE signal. That couldn't be more of an exaggeration could it? Also in my tests, I have noticed if you set the phone to WCDMA only, the signal is a lot stronger.
Anyone care to comment on this?
No issues for me. Even in the factory that i work at i am getting 4G LTE over people with ATT and its quite strong. LTE Tower is a good distance away.
Have you rooted or flashed anything? If its 100 percent pure stock, ask for a replacement. Or even re-flash the latest update to see if that helps.
The only issue i have and others have is where the outgoing data arrow constantly lights up but no data is coming in. I think its a T-Mobile programming bug in 4.4.2 as the issue didn't exist in 4.3 on my S4.
elesbb said:
No issues for me. Even in the factory that i work at i am getting 4G LTE over people with ATT and its quite strong. LTE Tower is a good distance away.
Have you rooted or flashed anything? If its 100 percent pure stock, ask for a replacement. Or even re-flash the latest update to see if that helps.
The only issue i have and others have is where the outgoing data arrow constantly lights up but no data is coming in. I think its a T-Mobile programming bug in 4.4.2 as the issue didn't exist in 4.3 on my S4.
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Yes, but on average what is your dbm? Not going by bars.
T-Mobile also does not have a dense cell grid in my area which could be why. Already past the 14 day return window. Absolutely no device modification has even done.
I'm at full 5 bars on LTE 4G signal strength @ - 97 dBm
Biker1 said:
I'm at full 5 bars on LTE 4G signal strength @ - 97 dBm
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Appreciate the response. Been doing some research lately, and I think its because t-mobile doesn't have many sites in my area. I don't think their frequencies travel far either. Maybe I am wrong, but wouldn't this cause very low LTE signal?
BlockEight88 said:
Appreciate the response. Been doing some research lately, and I think its because t-mobile doesn't have many sites in my area. I don't think their frequencies travel far either. Maybe I am wrong, but wouldn't this cause very low LTE signal?
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If the towers are far from you, I would think that would cause a weak signal.
You can try this app.
It may help to see where the issue may be regarding towers, etc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet
Biker1 said:
If the towers are far from you, I would think that would cause a weak signal.
You can try this app.
It may help to see where the issue may be regarding towers, etc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet
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That app just shows the -dBm as a widget. Anyone else notice a -109 or less signal showing 5 bars?
BlockEight88 said:
That app just shows the -dBm as a widget. Anyone else notice a -109 or less signal showing 5 bars?
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It does give you a more accurate signal bar strength indicator consisting of 14 bars and not 5 bars, as the stock indicator does. I'm at 11 bars.
BlockEight88 said:
Yes, but on average what is your dbm? Not going by bars.
T-Mobile also does not have a dense cell grid in my area which could be why. Already past the 14 day return window. Absolutely no device modification has even done.
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Ahh. I will have to check the dbm. I don't get full signal but i get like 2 bars. Sometimes four depending where i sit. Then outside, i get full bars. I'll double check the dbm outside with full bars. It should be in and around the -90s.
Hello,
I have a question about the signal strength on my DNA. I just installed [ROM][4.4.4][OFFICIAL] LiquidSmooth and I only get 2 bars in areas I was getting 4 bars before with VenomDNA.
Do these roms somehow mess with the radio firmware or drivers or whatever allows the radio to function? If not, should I be updating those manually?
There is a possibiility that 2 bars on LiquidSmooth is equivalent to 4 bars on Venom but I doubt that the different thresholds are that far apart. On LiquidSmooth i generally read between -105 and -95 (I assume the units are dBm).
Essentially I have a DNA that I moonshined to s-off and then installed TWRP and then flashed various roms. I have not done a factory OTA update in over a year so maybe I'm missing something?
Edit: I just realized that LiquidSmooth has 3 colors for the signal bar (white, grey and black) and Ive been getting 2 white and 2 grey (filling up all 4 bars). Not sure what this means.
-Calvin
Sense-based ROMs tend to "pad" the signal strength, and CM-based ROMs are conservative on signal strength that shows in the status bar.
The best indicator is looking at About Phone. I don't believe sense and cm ROMs change the radio, so what you're seeing is how they report the signal strength.
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Sense-based ROMs tend to "pad" the signal strength, and CM-based ROMs are conservative on signal strength that shows in the status bar.
The best indicator is looking at About Phone. I don't believe sense and cm ROMs change the radio, so what you're seeing is how they report the signal strength.
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Yup! Thanks! As i was using it I noticed some locations enabled me to get 4 full White bars which means its a legit signal to bar mapping thing rather than my hardware being unsupported fully.
This question was on my mind the other day. I traveled to an area that has really poor Verizon coverage. My DNA (Liquid latest) had no signal (nothing) for most of the time. My fiance has a Moto X (stock) and was almost always getting 3G, sometimes 4G (albite a little slow, for sure). I have the latest radios for the DNA, but is there anything I can do to improve the radios?
Fightermelee said:
This question was on my mind the other day. I traveled to an area that has really poor Verizon coverage. My DNA (Liquid latest) had no signal (nothing) for most of the time. My fiance has a Moto X (stock) and was almost always getting 3G, sometimes 4G (albite a little slow, for sure). I have the latest radios for the DNA, but is there anything I can do to improve the radios?
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She has a different baseband radio for her phone. It will vary. Just because its the latest radio doesn't always mean the best reception. You can try different radios to see what gets you the best reception.
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This one drives me nuts too.. Cyanogenmod needs to put 5signal bars in,, I'd enjoy to see a glimmer of connection at times
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I noticed the same thing between ViperDNA and Liquid smooth. I just updated my radios last week and haven't noticed a difference. As was mentioned, I guess new radios doesn't directly translate to better reception. bummer.
I have been having issues with my DNA keeping signal at all recently though. I've seen it mentioned in the developer thread, so i don't believe it is related to the new radios.
I've been having problems with the radio cutting out sometimes when I'm on the move, then I have to toggle the radio on and off to get data again. Only happens like once every few weeks though.
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jamiethemorris said:
I've been having problems with the radio cutting out sometimes when I'm on the move, then I have to toggle the radio on and off to get data again. Only happens like once every few weeks though.
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I have had the best results with radio 2.04
here are the directions to change the radio version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612740