I'm considering putting a ROM on a friend's device that is not familiar with any sort of troubleshooting but is a reasonable upgrade over stock. If that's not possible I'm fine with that. No bugs preferred. Features aren't that important but the phone lags a lot stock so a speed boost would be nice.
Thanks!
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I'm considering putting a ROM on a friend's device that is not familiar with any sort of troubleshooting but is a reasonable upgrade over stock. If that's not possible I'm fine with that. No bugs preferred. Features aren't that important but the phone lags a lot stock so a speed boost would be nice.
Thanks!
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I typically refrain from "advertising" (even in my own thread - hah) since there are many many fine works to choose from out here crafted by a lot of very dedicated and amazing developers, but in this case I think I'll break my rule and see if my ROM would fit your needs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088224
My ROM is pretty basic, it tries to mimick the AOSP/Galaxy Nexus as best as possible for the Fascinate, with only a few customizations. I can't say it's 100% bug free, that would be silly (lol), but the latest version (GeeWiz 4.4 + 2 patches) is very solid/stable in my opinion. I think it's a good fit here since it can be applied as a direct stock replacement using ODIN and doesn't change anything that would cause problems going back to stock again if it's not what your friend was expecting.
I'm not sure the "speed" will impress, but it does pretty well considering it's Jelly Bean 4.2 running on a device that came with Eclair :silly: There are some built-in optimizations you can enable like overclocking the CPU to 1.2GHz that help smooth it out, and I've done a lot of work on the kernel to ensure as little wasted CPU % as possible. Battery life will also be less impressive than your friend is used to on stock, but again I think it's pretty darn good given that we are well beyond what the Fascinate was designed for at this point!
If you want a mildly enhanced Gingerbread experience, you can also try my GeeWiz v2.9.2 here at XDA. It's retired and I no longer actively work on it, but it still gets THOUSANDS of downloads every month (admittedly mostly from China and parts of Africa, I've chosen to not try to understand why - lol).
I don't want to drone on, but I want to add something else ... ANY of the ROMs out here should blow your friend's mind! I only recommend my own because it sounds like a good fit for your needs and could be an easier sell for you since it strives for a stock-like experience. Every dev out here is friendly and will help you if you run into problems, so perhaps the best way to go is peruse the selection in the development thread and see what you think! There are really no "bad" choices to be made here.
I'm impressed how helpful you are. How much difference in battery life are we talking here? I put a jellybean rom on my galaxy tab 7 and it lasts for a month easy on standby, so I know it can vary greatly with custom ROMs.
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I typically refrain from "advertising" (even in my own thread - hah) since there are many many fine works to choose from out here crafted by a lot of very dedicated and amazing developers, but in this case I think I'll break my rule and see if my ROM would fit your needs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088224
My ROM is pretty basic, it tries to mimick the AOSP/Galaxy Nexus as best as possible for the Fascinate, with only a few customizations. I can't say it's 100% bug free, that would be silly (lol), but the latest version (GeeWiz 4.4 + 2 patches) is very solid/stable in my opinion. I think it's a good fit here since it can be applied as a direct stock replacement using ODIN and doesn't change anything that would cause problems going back to stock again if it's not what your friend was expecting.
I'm not sure the "speed" will impress, but it does pretty well considering it's Jelly Bean 4.2 running on a device that came with Eclair :silly: There are some built-in optimizations you can enable like overclocking the CPU to 1.2GHz that help smooth it out, and I've done a lot of work on the kernel to ensure as little wasted CPU % as possible. Battery life will also be less impressive than your friend is used to on stock, but again I think it's pretty darn good given that we are well beyond what the Fascinate was designed for at this point!
If you want a mildly enhanced Gingerbread experience, you can also try my GeeWiz v2.9.2 here at XDA. It's retired and I no longer actively work on it, but it still gets THOUSANDS of downloads every month (admittedly mostly from China and parts of Africa, I've chosen to not try to understand why - lol).
I don't want to drone on, but I want to add something else ... ANY of the ROMs out here should blow your friend's mind! I only recommend my own because it sounds like a good fit for your needs and could be an easier sell for you since it strives for a stock-like experience. Every dev out here is friendly and will help you if you run into problems, so perhaps the best way to go is peruse the selection in the development thread and see what you think! There are really no "bad" choices to be made here.
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I'm impressed how helpful you are. How much difference in battery life are we talking here? I put a jellybean rom on my galaxy tab 7 and it lasts for a month easy on standby, so I know it can vary greatly with custom ROMs.
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Ugh, that's always a tough one to answer Maybe 10%-15%? It's really hard to say since it depends on how the device is used. Some stuff like active Bluetooth definitely takes more juice, whereas Wifi takes less. The screen takes more since JB requires the kernel to maintain a VSYNC (Vertical Sync) signal and it will enable the accelerometer device whenever the screen is on for auto-rotation support (if you turn off auto-rotate it's smart enough to disable the accelerometer). Pretty much anything you actively do with the device will require more battery than it did, there's lots more code in JB, fancier graphics to animate, etc.
There is also one application, Google Play Music, that I have listed as a "Known Issue" when it comes to battery life. For some reason/bug in it's album art downloader, it can get itself stuck in a loop and trash the battery in a matter of hours. I tracked it down to the mentioned album art service when an external SD card is installed, and told Google, but that's all I could do for that. I recommend disabling Google Play Music and replacing it with a better music player!
I wish I had a more concrete answer for this one, but "it depends" is about as good as I can do. If your friend is getting well more than a day out of the phone now, he should probably be OK if charging every night is acceptable. If he's already battery-challenged, I think it may be a frustrating experience for him.
For what it's worth, here are the most two recent battery life screenshots I have. Note: These are with a brand new battery ($14 - amazon) and really only show standby with Wifi ON times, which is what I was testing. Basically indicative of the absolute maximum battery life possible, not real world usage.
Hope this was enough to help with your decision!
Geewiz is probably the most stable by far great battery life and as you can see great developer
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There are so many recommended ROMs now, it almost seems like too many choices. (It's a good "problem". I'm not complaining.) I tend to find one based on reviews and recommendations and stick with it, rather than flashing through a bunch. I've been using MIUI from GB to JB, but sadly development seems to have ceased.
I had been eyeing Stephen.k.spear's AOKP PUB as a replacement, but development seems to have ceased there as well. Looks like the torch was picked up by bbrad's AOKP, but browsing that thread opened the floodgates to other ROMs such as Liquidsmooth, Carbonrom, SuperNexus, etc, etc, etc, as well as Geewiz mentioned here. Can anyone provide an overview comparison (stability, features, other pros/cons...) between some of these ROMs? (What exactly is the difference in stability of "by far"?)
Also, at some point around ICS, there was a change in file system and/or structure that allowed MIUI to hold a lot more apps than previously. (I think it had to do with MTD, but not 100% sure.) Can I assume most ROM's have this expanded capability now? Does Geewiz have it? I noticed it uses a different file system. Thank you.
I am one of those people who really likes a stable rom and I would really recommend you try Helly Bean. It's been by far the most stable and feature packed rom I've ever used. I'm not trashing any of the other roms we have, but I've tried almost all of them and I always come back to Helly Bean.
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I am one of those people who really likes a stable rom and I would really recommend you try Helly Bean. It's been by far the most stable and feature packed rom I've ever used. I'm not trashing any of the other roms we have, but I've tried almost all of them and I always come back to Helly Bean.
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Unfortunately I can't ask in the ROM thread, so I'll ask here... Which version of gapps do I flash for Helly Bean? The thread points to 20121130, but there seems to be a more recent version 20130301 at goo.im. Also, droidstyle's guide mentions inverted gapps. Does that work with Helly Bean? If so, are they flashed after the regular gapps, or instead of them? Thanks so much.
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Unfortunately I can't ask in the ROM thread, so I'll ask here... Which version of gapps do I flash for Helly Bean? The thread points to 20121130, but there seems to be a more recent version 20130301 at goo.im. Also, droidstyle's guide mentions inverted gapps. Does that work with Helly Bean? If so, are they flashed after the regular gapps, or instead of them? Thanks so much.
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Flash the ones from goo.im and as for the inverted you just flash them like regular gapps
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First, an explanation of my situation:
I bought a Galaxy Note at the beginning of the summer. All-in-all, I was pretty happy with it. It was a much improved experience over my Atrix, which was in poor condition by the time I switched over.
I wasn't able to root at first as I only had access to a Mac, and there were innumerable issues in doing so - Odin was PC only, WINE ports of it failed to recognize the phone, the Mac equivalent of Odin (I am spacing on its name right now) didn't work with the Note, etc.
When ICS was officially released, I tried to update to it via Kies. Kies on Mac is a ****storm. It's incredibly buggy, toolbars and menus don't display correctly, it has trouble recognizing the device, etc. I was unable to get it to make a backup, but I eventually managed to load the ROM onto it...
... and that's when the real problems started.
My battery life has turned to crap. Everything runs incredibly slow. Everything's super buggy. Apps force-close all the time. My MicroSD card ended up getting corrupted - half of my music disappeared, of what was left only 1/3rd actually worked. I just reformatted my MicroSD, backing everything important up, etc.
I've been dealing with this for around a month now, as whenever I come to the forum I have no idea where to even start to fix this. I'm up for wiping everything and starting over, and I do have access to a Windows XP machine now so that may be easier... but I don't even know where to go from there.
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That's why I'm here - I need advice. I need advice as to how to clean up the current mess my phone has turned into and start over. I need advice as to what ROM to try and how to go about loading it. I need advice as to whether to root and how to do so. I need advice as to whether to install a CWM, which one to use and how to go about doing so.
Here is what I am looking for, ordered from most important to least:
Battery life is important to me. I loved how long the battery lasted before my attempted upgrade to ICS... now it lasts maybe 1/3 of the time.
I want something that will work - I want stability. No more constant force-quits of every freaking app.
A smooth, fast UI would be preferable.
Feature packed. I like the thought of cutting edge features of newer (or custom) versions of Android being incorporated - but this is far less important to me than battery life and stability.
My preferred method of installation would be using my Mac - but as I said, Windows XP is a very easy option for me as well. I could also install a newer version of Windows if need be, but would prefer not to go through that...
Thanks in advance for any help, advice and recommendations! ^_^
Get Odin and root your phone...
Download and flash TWRP... http://teamw.in/project/twrp
download a ROM of your choice
boot into the recovery ..wipe--->>cache/dalvik cache/ wipe ROM/factory reset..>then go to the install and flash your ROM...
These are very rudimentary instructions I hope they helped a bit...good luck
Do you have an idea for what ROM you like or want? Couple of great ROMs..for stockish check out flappjaxxx's for jellybean check out manelscout4life..stable and fast
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Techno is onto the correct answer, unless of course you are truly wanting the stock version back.
Kies and OTA updates are often flawed, and give the end user exactly the type of problems you are stating.
However, if you want a return to stock, the information can be found in the "note super everything thread" located as a sticky at the top of the general note section.
But I do agree with techno, that a root and flash of a quality custom rom is the way to go......g
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
That is the best stockish ICS experience you can get and keeps all the functionality of your phone including the spen. He also offers a jellybean ROM but honestly to find the best JB rom for you just read through the threads read and REREAD THE OP of those ROMs..jellybean is fun and cool but not 101% stable yet..people still getting random reboots and some are losing there APN settings..so maybe just flashing ics and playing with those ROMs is best for you for now..FYI the above rom is smooth as silk and great battery life
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Again , I agree with Techno, and the rom he posted is the one I'm using to type this.
Flappjaxxx is a fine developer, and he has packed this UCLF6 build with full functionality , and much more.
He is , and will continue to be my top pick for quality builds and performance ...g
This is all really wonderful advice - thanks again!
I guess I have a few last questions:
What is the best way to root at this point? If I recall, there are multiple ways to root via Odin... is there a specific one you would recommend for my current situation (read: current buggy ICS firmware)? A link would be very much appreciated, as the roadmap thread is a bit... overwhelming with all of the options.
Are there any MODs you recommend I install after I have my new flappjaxxx ROM in place? Will tethering work off the bat? Will all of the Gapps (Gmail, Navigation, etc.) be there for me to use? Will I need to install anything else, or is there any recommendations that you have?
Thanks again a ton - you've both been enormously helpful!
Also, I just noticed that the recovery you linked me to (http://teamw.in/project/twrp) has no option for the Galaxy Note...
EDIT: It turns out you linked me to the wrong page - to TWPR 1. Here's the link to TWRP 2.2, for anyone else who comes across this thread: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Just my 2 cents. After you get straightened out, you may want to take a look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29376779
Another stable rom with great battery life, and a super Dev a well. I have been running it since testing and find it to be the perfect rom and team for me.
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Please verify your carrier ....model ...and current software version ....then we can point you to the correct bits and pieces of the super thread.
I just want to make sure we are all on the same page ....g
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I'm away for a few hours ...
But I'm sure a few other helpful folks will chime in with the links ...g
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Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
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Im using black star v flawless in my eyes..
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Currently, I'm stock+root (as it seems none of the ROMs were super-solid, based on the various lengths of forums for each ROM).
I'm currently considering Infection 2.1, which looks great. I'm curious as to how fast and solid it performs, however. For instance, I have a stock Nexus 7 with JB (obviously) and it's the smoothest greatest Android device I've had to date. With JB on the Rezound, are we seeing the benefits of Project butter?
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
Im in it now and so far no problems, project butter is def noticable
Well I'm running Infection 2.1 and it's fast and very smooth. I'm running it with IHateWebOS' deluxe+ kernel OC 1.8 with noop scheduler.
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Well I'm running Infection 2.1 and it's fast and very smooth. I'm running it with IHateWebOS' deluxe+ kernel OC 1.8 with noop scheduler.
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is gaming choppy?
ive noticed most of the 10/10.1 roms are choppy on the gaming side
i would like to test but i dont see the point in flashing the newest update just to find out when i can just ask :silly:
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is gaming choppy?
ive noticed most of the 10/10.1 roms are choppy on the gaming side
i would like to test but i dont see the point in flashing the newest update just to find out when i can just ask :silly:
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When i was running Infection 2.0 it was pretty choppy, but since i switched to the latest PAC-MAN rom by shrike and it's pretty smooth. Might have been the transition to 4.2.2.
Project butter isn't enabled for us on the Rezound, from what I've gathered there's a lot of coding that needs to be done to the jelly bean base to get it to work on our device properly. The smoothness comes from all the tweaks and enhancements the Rom devs have put Into the world Roms. I can't wait to see how smooth this phone will be once project butter is actually working
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Having experienced Project Butter firsthand, I can say in no uncertain terms that this isn't Project Butter. However, the interface is quite smooth given the right CPU governor. As mentioned, games performance is where things lag. We don't have hardware accelerated video, so anything 3D or HD is going to suffer.
.... Oh well its smooth and that's what counts right? Ha
I've tried every JB rom and the infectious 2 was the best to date.. but I always go back to the desensed Neo 2 for the battery life and I prefer the camera over JB as well.
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Currently, I'm stock+root (as it seems none of the ROMs were super-solid, based on the various lengths of forums for each ROM).
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Not quite sure what this means...JB for the Rezound hasn't been out THAT long as it took Chad, Neo, Shrike, et al quite a long time to get things somewhat stable. So I wouldn't go by length of thread to judge a usable/stable ROM, or maybe I just misundestand.
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I'm currently considering Infection 2.1, which looks great. I'm curious as to how fast and solid it performs, however. For instance, I have a stock Nexus 7 with JB (obviously) and it's the smoothest greatest Android device I've had to date. With JB on the Rezound, are we seeing the benefits of Project butter?
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
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The above being said, I too have a Nexus 7 and am running mlaws Dirty AOKP on it. I just left Infection rom on my Rez and it is nowhere near as smooth an experience as on the N7 (no offense Neo, I know you work hard on all your roms).
I went back to hawk's eclipticrez rom for a couple of main reasons:
1. Signal strength is better on sense roms ON MY PHONE ( I have to say it that way because others will disagree heartily, I'm sure).
2. Video is less than perfect on the JB roms for rez.
3. Battery for me seems to be better (20-30%) on hawk's rom...haven't done a real test, just have ran both over several days usually doing the same stuff and I seem to need a charge faster on Infection.
Based on what has been accomplished and what HTC has released, it is a miracle we have JB, but there are still issues with it IMO. ABSOLUTELY nothing against the devs that are pouring their heart and soul into their respective projects, my hat's off to them all!
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Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
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I think if you really took the time to read through the threads you're talking about, you'd find that there are very few major bugs that haven't been solved. I'm running Infection right now, and all the functions I use on a regular basis are working just fine; SMS, calling, 3G/4G/Wifi I can vouch for, and Wifi Tethering & GPS are working from what I've tested.
As for the threads, like I said. You really should take the time to read through everything. Infection's thread has loads of fluff and miscellaneous conversations with it, and a lot of the issues you may have seen have either been resolved or were just people who were unsure about how to do something. There are very few major stability issues, that I've experienced.
As for the overall usability and smoothness, it's very good. Shrike is right, it's certainly not Project Butter. But it isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. Underclocking and undervolting can introduce lag, but only in extreme cases. Battery life will depend on the ROM, kernel, and individual settings in question, but there are a few generalities that can be made... such as the Noop scheduler, DanceDance/Wheatley governers, etc.
Hope this helps.
Edit: I rarely use the camera for photos or videos, and I simply don't have an interest in playing a game on my phone. So I can't give any insights on those aspects, sorry.
I'm running Infection right now and this is my first step into JB for the Rezound and I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest (hell, I was on a GB ROM 6 months ago for fear of moving to an unstable ICS), but what Neo has put together has really out-shined the competition.
With that being said, it's nowhere near perfect. All the basic things that you need a phone to do (talk, text, 3g/4g, wifi, etc) all work efficiently and effectively. However, and this could just be me, but when you're playing around within your phone, such as moving icons around while searching for things online and looking up directions in Maps, things will start "unfortunately stopping" on your phone, and Apex is almost always the first to go. On the bright side, the apps that crash immediately start working again, so it's not as detrimental as it seems.
The only time I've had an out and out failure on the phone was when I was in mid conversation the phone completely went blank. It responded to nothing. It was black screen, no lights, nothing. I had to pull the battery to reboot.
So, as it is within the modding community, everything comes with a certain amount of assumed risk. The closer you are to the bleeding edge, the more likely you are to get cut. (God, that was a terrible ending...)
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I'm running Infection right now and this is my first step into JB for the Rezound and I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest (hell, I was on a GB ROM 6 months ago for fear of moving to an unstable ICS), but what Neo has put together has really out-shined the competition.
With that being said, it's nowhere near perfect. All the basic things that you need a phone to do (talk, text, 3g/4g, wifi, etc) all work efficiently and effectively. However, and this could just be me, but when you're playing around within your phone, such as moving icons around while searching for things online and looking up directions in Maps, things will start "unfortunately stopping" on your phone, and Apex is almost always the first to go. On the bright side, the apps that crash immediately start working again, so it's not as detrimental as it seems.
The only time I've had an out and out failure on the phone was when I was in mid conversation the phone completely went blank. It responded to nothing. It was black screen, no lights, nothing. I had to pull the battery to reboot.
So, as it is within the modding community, everything comes with a certain amount of assumed risk. The closer you are to the bleeding edge, the more likely you are to get cut. (God, that was a terrible ending...)
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Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
tell me a jb rom that has video working properly(tearing) and the camcorder working and im all over it. as having a 3yr old i need both.
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Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
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ICS AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs work well save for BT audio. Sense ROMs are still better tho...
I haven't seen this mention much, but how is the battery life vs Sense 3.6/4 roms?
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ICS AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs work well save for BT audio. Sense ROMs are still better tho...
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BT audio should be fine on the latest ones. Granted, I haven't listened to music on them for more than a test, but calling and A2DP both work on 4.2.2.
How is the performance of google now? And again is battery life better than sense roms?
DogzOfWar said:
Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
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If you don't want to go to jellybean yet (personally, I find the expanded notifications a killer feature since it previews email subjects and even opening lines)
Then try the simplistic rom by neo. It's an unbloated version of the stock global, sense 3.6 OTA rom and will at least be a little less memory hogging than the stock rom.
If you don't need Bluetooth calling, neo's rage 1.9.5 gets you a very stable, fast version of ICS (with no sense bloat), no video tearing and working camcorder.
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Hey everyone. I've rooted all of my previous phones and loved to play around with ROMs. I was always kind of a flash addict. I think I've had my Note II long enough to start messing around with it. I'm putting off the OTA update that Verizon keeps trying to send me so I can use AdamOutler's unlock without having to wait for an update, but I do have a big looming question.
The main reason I want to root is so I can use a non TouchWiz ROM. I hate TouchWiz. I don't use 95% of the features, I haven't touched the S-Pen in 3 months, and I find it absolutely hideous. I want me some Holo. I've done a bit of reading on the subject and it sounds like - since AOSP based ROMs are not optimized for the phone's hardware - I may see a big hit to battery life.
I use my phone quite a bit. Depdending on the day, I may be streaming for 6+ hours with 5-7 hours of screen time, and right now it lasts all day and more. I usually put it on the charger with at least 20% left after heavy use, 50% or more after medium use. I don't really want to give up a significant amount of battery life.
So, people who are using non TouchWiz ROMs (Cyanogen? Is there anything that you'd recommend that's better/similar for this phone?), what kernel/ROM combination are you using and how is your battery life compared to what it was stock? I'm not planning on doing any overclocking, the hardware is plenty fast for my tastes. I just want a non-TouchWiz Android experience without sacrificing my battery.
Possible? Thanks in advance.
I found the battery life to be generally poor. I think sbrissen has a fix in the pipe to improve battery, but it hasn't made it to the ROMs yet. There are other things that didn't work well for me either...GPS and Bluetooth both had issues for me, but they're working fine for others, so it's probably hardware differences.
In general though, ROMs with the Paranoid Android Hybrid Engine really shine on this phone. I'm a sucker for PAC-man (so many options), but there are a couple of other ROMs that have it as well, including Paranoid Android itself.
im running carbon with matrix kernel underclocked and tweaked. i have great battery life, honestly i didn't know there was a difference between TW and ASOP when it comes to battery life.
Thanks for the reply. So ParanoidAndroid ROMs are some kind of hybrid of AOSP/TW? I never actually tried the PA ROM when I had my Nexus, it was just one I never got to. Do you get solid battery life on the PAC-man ROM? I'm taking a look at it right now.
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Thanks for the reply. So ParanoidAndroid ROMs are some kind of hybrid of AOSP/TW? I never actually tried the PA ROM when I had my Nexus, it was just one I never got to. Do you get solid battery life on the PAC-man ROM? I'm taking a look at it right now.
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No PA isnt a hybrid AOSP/TW rom, its a pure AOSP rom that offers hybrid settings so you can set your apps individually to appear as phone, in between, and tablet mode. There's a little more to it than that but that's the gist of it.
You also may want to check out Vanilla Rootbox, it is my favorite thus far and is really stable.
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I recommend PACMan Rom 4.2.2. Highly stable, very few problems for my Note
phnord said:
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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so many people ask this same question and anyone with real experience here is going to tell you..................
every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
common rule here (im not being a jerk,you should know this) is read, read, read.
to show you how often someone asks this very question, go back out one screen and down about 5 threads "looking for an excellent ROM"
I have posted my honest opinions and what you can expect from all available firmwares.
good luck my friend
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every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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again, if you haven't, read the other post.
from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
personal choice.......PADAWAN........others have had some issues with lag (biggest complaint) and I refer them ( an I have the most thanks on thread) to p.355-378. read through those pages. obviously others have not figured it out cause they don't read. those setting had my phone running better than it ever ran, even out of box.
the only way you will know is to try for yourself. but it is lie Trident gum.............4 out of 5 dentist surveyed.........
as always, good luck in your hunt
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from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
captemo said:
first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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On 4.2 they have option to OC/UV with stock kernels. It can just be a constant adjustment in those values to minimalize the reboots. With 4.3 I guess you can say I had reboots, my problem was the reboot would never complete and would just bootloop.
I am just being patient and giving it some time. I know many are working on it cause there is so little action in development thread. Many impatient members have driven developers away by constant pestering. I think many have learned that lesson. That why it is so quiet.
Trust me, it is the calm before the storm
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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anything 4.3 was doing it. again I am thinking it may have been my APP2ZIPP file.
here is a tip as to what I do when contemplating new ROM...............
obviously I am looking at original OP post for features to what I want. then I go to last page of thread and read backwards. this gives me the most recent problem ROM is having and hint as to whether there is a fix. if it is something I can deal with, then I go for it. if its too much hassle, then I don't.
I thought I was the only one... I I do the exact same thing capt.
2$HAYNE
Now my eyes hurt
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
Now my eyes hurt
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work. :beer:
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work.
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
Since it's become clear to me that the main issue here is finding something both modern and stable, I've started a different thread that makes that clear in the title. It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425090
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Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
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again, everybody's phone is different. I am not sure why, but my phone cant run CARBON, any version. which kind of bums be out cause of all the options available. many of the 4.2's would do exactly that for me, I get a couple of days out of them, then reboots galore. Carbon, (4.2, 4.3, alternate kernels) is just a no go for me. it's like my phone has an allergy.
it was always suggested to me to try stock KERNEL and let it settle for couple days and hell if I had to flash something, might as well flash a new ROM. then I ran out of ROM's. that's when I started trying KERNELS.
most recently, I have had success with BLOWNFUZE's AOKP and compatible UBER (I think it in OP) and also ROOTBOX w/ UBER. ROOTBOX has some pretty cool features. different sounds and statusbar changing colors in different menus. pretty neat. AOKP, just a bit more stable maybe. I am not sure I had the OC/UV settings dialed in just right though. battery wasn't quite lasting me. want to go back and tweak those some more.
in the meantime, and I don't know why I haven't tried in the past, I have been running SONS of ANDROID. 6 days, stock kernel, NO REBOOTS
in between, I am trying to keep my eyes open for some breakthrough's on 4.3. of course I am also trying work out my options for getting the MEGA 6.3.
again, good luck, read, and remember all phones are just a smidge different. that's smidge can be ALL the difference
My friend's got SGS2 and he's low on money to buy a new phone at the time.
I myself owned sgs2, but several years ago, i.e. not tracking sgs2 threads now.
He's on stock now, but it's barely working, memory is over9000 full, ram's eaten by everything that can eat it.
I know I could just clear the stock, but it's kinda boring, I saw there are already Lollipop ROMs for sgs2 that seems to be working just fine (like Resurrection), but I'd like someone else's opinion.
Question is to those who still own and use sgs2 as a daily driver, what ROM should I install for him?
He's retarded in terms of everything related to technology, so he needs something that would work rock steady and stable, without bugs and errors, i.e. no beta\alpha builds.
I need to flash him some stable ROM, configure it and forget about it.
Advice needed, will be much appreciated, very thanks, wow!
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My friend's got SGS2 and he's low on money to buy a new phone at the time.
I myself owned sgs2, but several years ago, i.e. not tracking sgs2 threads now.
He's on stock now, but it's barely working, memory is over9000 full, ram's eaten by everything that can eat it.
I know I could just clear the stock, but it's kinda boring, I saw there are already Lollipop ROMs for sgs2 that seems to be working just fine (like Resurrection), but I'd like someone else's opinion.
Question is to those who still own and use sgs2 as a daily driver, what ROM should I install for him?
He's retarded in terms of everything related to technology, so he needs something that would work rock steady and stable, without bugs and errors, i.e. no beta\alpha builds.
I need to flash him some stable ROM, configure it and forget about it.
Advice needed, will be much appreciated, very thanks, wow!
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OK, there are heaps of options out there.....
If he uses a lot of apps I would steer clear of lollipop roms for now as the os uses a lot of memory at present and they haven't quite got to the "rock steady, no bugs" stage just yet. You could try a minimalist rom like neatrom or slimsaber on kitkat, they are very good for performance and battery life. Ressurection remix 5.1.5 kitkat is also very good, a slightly older version of kitkat but based on cyanogenmod, so has themes and other stuff. Even older jellybean roms such as cm10 or vanilla rootbox are also highly recommended.
I'm currently using slimsaber by @fusionjack with dorimanx 10.44v008 kernel by @cybernetus as my daily driver at the moment and it would definately tick all your boxes