Hi,
I find the posted threads confusing. I'm looking to flash ICS on my dad's Atrix 4G as he needs it for an app he considers crucial . Unlike me, he isn't very interested in experimenting with any exciting ROMs; he needs his phone to function: on and off, sleep, text, call, bluetooth, browser, camera, maybe music, without issue.
Fingerprint reader is not critical.
Is there a ROM that is quite stable in all these areas? Posts seem to say yes, but they also seem to say that stable ICS/JB is not possible because of kernel issues.
What's the bottom line?? Please advise me.
Stable ICS? No such thing. Been said countless times already. I don't see what is so confusing about that. Despite enthusiastic feedback from people, no ICS/JB is actually stable enough for day-to-day usage. That's why pretty much all of them get quite frequent updates.
Does the app in question not work on GB?
ravilov said:
Stable ICS? No such thing. Been said countless times already. I don't see what is so confusing about that. Despite enthusiastic feedback from people, no ICS/JB is actually stable enough for day-to-day usage. That's why pretty much all of them get quite frequent updates.
Does the app in question not work on GB?
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It doesn't, no. Unless there's a way to have ICS runtime environment or st but that sounds impossible
And the confusion stems from claims like "..stable enough for a daily rom!" in comments I keep finding in specific ICS ROM threads. I'm sure that's the enthusiasm you're talking about lol.
I've been using epinter's jb 4.1.2 for months. video cam & fingerprint not working. everything else, including photo-cam, works. and let me tell my experience and you decide:
in normal use, the battery can last 2 days. and seldomly, kernel seems to wake the device, causing battery drain. problem ends after a reboot.
I call it a stable enough daily rom. but it'll be your decision.
leitlang said:
Hi,
I find the posted threads confusing. I'm looking to flash ICS on my dad's Atrix 4G as he needs it for an app he considers crucial . Unlike me, he isn't very interested in experimenting with any exciting ROMs; he needs his phone to function: on and off, sleep, text, call, bluetooth, browser, camera, maybe music, without issue.
Fingerprint reader is not critical.
Is there a ROM that is quite stable in all these areas? Posts seem to say yes, but they also seem to say that stable ICS/JB is not possible because of kernel issues.
What's the bottom line?? Please advise me.
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As the dev team threads have said, the ICS/JB kernel alpha release is immenint. It may be an alpha, but it may give you the results you're looking for if combo'd with an ICS or higher ROM. Current ROMs are stable to a point without the dev'd kernel. While i recommend waiting for a beta to be released, you're more than welcome to test out the alpha once its released while keeping the usual advisory warnings in mind. If you don't want to wait for the alpha, feel free to try one of the ICS ROMs, but be warned, camera issues and battery life issues are major areas to watch out for. These issues may be fixed by the dev'd kernel.
Personally i've been using Atrics v2.0 and epinter's CM 10.1. Both are good.
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saldirai said:
I've been using epinter's jb 4.1.2 for months. video cam & fingerprint not working. everything else, including photo-cam, works. and let me tell my experience and you decide:
in normal use, the battery can last 2 days. and seldomly, kernel seems to wake the device, causing battery drain. problem ends after a reboot.
I call it a stable enough daily rom. but it'll be your decision.
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The video cam, fingerprint, & force-wake are literally the only issues? Or just the most frequent ones? Bc that'd be awesome but if e.g. the phone part sometimes wont open or the text messaging force closes or similar issues exist then it may be a dealbreaker for him.
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As the dev team threads have said, the ICS/JB kernel alpha release is immenint. It may be an alpha, but it may give you the results you're looking for if combo'd with an ICS or higher ROM. Current ROMs are stable to a point without the dev'd kernel. While i recommend waiting for a beta to be released, you're more than welcome to test out the alpha once its released while keeping the usual advisory warnings in mind. If you don't want to wait for the alpha, feel free to try one of the ICS ROMs, but be warned, camera issues and battery life issues are major areas to watch out for. These issues may be fixed by the dev'd kernel.
Personally i've been using Atrics v2.0 and epinter's CM 10.1. Both are good.
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Same question re epinters; additionally, re the kernel - would that simply reduce the problems associated with the ICS/JB roms or introduce its own set of issues?
I appreciate your time/ effort.
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The video cam, fingerprint, & force-wake are literally the only issues? Or just the most frequent ones? Bc that'd be awesome but if e.g. the phone part sometimes wont open or the text messaging force closes or similar issues exist then it may be a dealbreaker for him.
Same question re epinters; additionally, re the kernel - would that simply reduce the problems associated with the ICS/JB roms or introduce its own set of issues?
I appreciate your time/ effort.
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I don't have any experience with Epinter's CM10, but from what i just read, comparing it to 10.1, it has the same issues. I haven't had any issues with messaging via ROM messaging app or via Go SMS. The kernel is supposed to solve the problems. However, battery life seems to still be an issue from what I've been reading. They disabled the camera for testing on the battery issue at the moment. At the moment, CM9, 10, and 10.1 all are running on variations of the GB kernel. While it was tweaked enough to make each ROM stable, the full potential won't be reached until the new kernel is implemented
The CM ROMs, in my opinion, are stable enough for daily use. Its up to you which ROM you want to use. As far as the kernel goes, I'll be trying out the alpha once its released, but it would be wiser to wait on the beta.
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I don't have any experience with Epinter's CM10, but from what i just read, comparing it to 10.1, it has the same issues. I haven't had any issues with messaging via ROM messaging app or via Go SMS. The kernel is supposed to solve the problems. However, battery life seems to still be an issue from what I've been reading. They disabled the camera for testing on the battery issue at the moment. At the moment, CM9, 10, and 10.1 all are running on variations of the GB kernel. While it was tweaked enough to make each ROM stable, the full potential won't be reached until the new kernel is implemented
The CM ROMs, in my opinion, are stable enough for daily use. Its up to you which ROM you want to use. As far as the kernel goes, I'll be trying out the alpha once its released, but it would be wiser to wait on the beta.
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I agree with u man, Epinter's CM10 is great ROM and I had more issues with stock GB ROM than this. If u don't need video camera and fingerprint reader I recommend it to use CM10.
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leitlang said:
The video cam, fingerprint, & force-wake are literally the only issues? Or just the most frequent ones? Bc that'd be awesome but if e.g. the phone part sometimes wont open or the text messaging force closes or similar issues exist then it may be a dealbreaker for him.
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I have enough experience to say that these are literally the only issues i've had.
sms or phone or connection has never force-closed for me.
you might give it a try. it doesnt take so long to try and revert back.
saldirai said:
I have enough experience to say that these are literally the only issues i've had.
sms or phone or connection has never force-closed for me.
you might give it a try. it doesnt take so long to try and revert back.
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This is true, just remember to make a nandroid backup (webtop optional) prior to testing out any non stock ROM.
With my setup, i've got backups of 2.3.6's 141 and 145, 4.0.4, and 4.2.1, and if i'm doing a straight restore from one to another, roughly 20-30 mins until i'm back up and running.
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Hi guys I know we have a bunch of roms for the RZ based on the leaked ICS. I took a look and see that overall everyone seems to be happy w/ these ROMs. I'd just like to ask what kind of feature beneits from the "full ICS" have been implemented in these ROMS ie hardware acceleration, improved interface etc and regarding the stability of these ROMs?
I like the fact that Rosie is actually useful, for a change. You can put groups of icons where only one used to fit before. For instance, all of your various communication type apps can be grouped together (Mail, Gmail, Facebook, etc...). This gives your desktop lots more room instead of being cluttered with icons.
The interface seems a little less clunky, and just flows better.
I also enjoy being able to run tether in infrastructure mode, something GB has been unable to do for me. The grouping folders on the launch bar is great. I also noticed that the roms run extremely smooth. Sense also seems to have lost a bit of weight from GB.
BBEgo said:
I like the fact that Rosie is actually useful, for a change. You can put groups of icons where only one used to fit before. For instance, all of your various communication type apps can be grouped together (Mail, Gmail, Facebook, etc...). This gives your desktop lots more room instead of being cluttered with icons.
The interface seems a little less clunky, and just flows better.
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Are you referring to the native folders that were added in ICS?
Another thing i noticed, when I connect my car charger, on ICS it's connected as "AC plugged" rather than "USB plugged". This charges my phone much faster and I can actually use GPS, Waze, Pandora, and Text/Browse (when stopped of course!) and my phone battery percentage is still going up!! =)
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Another thing i noticed, when I connect my car charger, on ICS it's connected as "AC plugged" rather than "USB plugged". This charges my phone much faster and I can actually use GPS, Waze, Pandora, and Text/Browse (when stopped of course!) and my phone battery percentage is still going up!! =)
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I havent seen this yet but this makes me very happy. I had taken a trip and used navigation a few times along with spotify and even with my car charger(a nice cheap universal one), I was still putting a drain on the battery.
Shouldn't hardware acceleration make a difference?
Good question.
I'm unlocked and rooted, but I haven't installed a rom because I really dont know what a rom is. I read about a few things that dont work and the blue flickering(which I get VERY rarely on stock GB) with the lastest ICS roms.
But how is an ICS rom different from getting ICS OTA? If everything worked in a ICS rom(or atleast everything I needed) is there a difference? or reason to want ICS OTA
With the current ICS roms does the following features work?
face unlock, new voice input engine, improve battery life
most app from the market work with ICS roms?
thanks
ICS
ICS is very stable in most of the ICS roms at this stage. I would reccomend either the rezrom or inneffablis roms, though the cleanrom series should not give you trouble unless you try to desense it. I have not noticed a significant difference in battery life, but like it says above there are a few specific improvements such as with charging via a car charger and overall performance is very good. Personally i really dig the look of and function of ICS , I don't use cleanrom because the last version i tried still used some sense gingerbread/sense apps.
If you need any assistance or have any questions id be happy to help ill be flashing some new roms tonight.
I beg to differ.i would say none of the ics roms are stable. And this is from user experience. There are numerous bugs and glitches. I'm in no way knocking any of the work the devs do. They are remarkable individual. Those builds need work before they can get the stable stamp of approval.
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Another thing i noticed, when I connect my car charger, on ICS it's connected as "AC plugged" rather than "USB plugged".
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This is huge to me, I can actually get a halfway decent charge on my phone while driving.
androidaddict23 said:
I beg to differ.i would say none of the ics roms are stable. And this is from user experience. There are numerous bugs and glitches. I'm in no way knocking any of the work the devs do. They are remarkable individual. Those builds need work before they can get the stable stamp of approval.
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well man im using Clean rom ICS and im having great battery life and no problems so sorry but i say that its stable
Stable means they don't crash..and they don't. If a feature is broken that is a deal breaker for you it doesn't mean it isn't stable.
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I beg to differ.i would say none of the ics roms are stable. And this is from user experience. There are numerous bugs and glitches. I'm in no way knocking any of the work the devs do. They are remarkable individual. Those builds need work before they can get the stable stamp of approval.
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Maybe you should say "your" stable stamp of approval. I have used clean icse and now Joel's rom and both are very stable I have had zero issues with Joel's latest release.
It seems many people's issues are caused when they insist on restoring from titanium and I don't care what Rom or os version your run you are opening yourself up for trouble when you do that.
Another common issue seems to be when people install apps that are not upgraded for ics, and with any os this takes time.
By far the most common instability in these roms is chair to keyboard interface. That's right user error lol it astounds me the number of people that can't even be bothered to read simple instructions!
Take your time, back up and play around, if you take the time to do it right I'm sure you will love ics as much as those of us using it now. If you find it lacking, or your favorite app is not ready for prime time you can always go back.
One more thing this is my 4th android device and the devs that are slaying this device are awesome! Thanks to you all and if I haven't already bought you a round or two, its coming!
GeneralCarter said:
...But how is an ICS rom different from getting ICS OTA? If everything worked in a ICS rom(or atleast everything I needed) is there a difference? or reason to want ICS OTA
With the current ICS roms does the following features work?
face unlock, new voice input engine, improve battery life
most app from the market work with ICS roms?
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Face unlock and voice input work. Battery life varies like always but seems good. The apps I use work fine but there are some that don't. Read about some.folks having problems with launcher apps. I think at this point most of the ics features are there but remember its not either or, when the ota ics drops you can just switch to that or a rom with that as a base. There will be plenty!
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mikdiamon said:
Maybe you should say "your" stable stamp of approval. I have used clean icse and now Joel's rom and both are very stable I have had zero issues with Joel's latest release.
It seems many people's issues are caused when they insist on restoring from titanium and I don't care what Rom or os version your run you are opening yourself up for trouble when you do that.
Another common issue seems to be when people install apps that are not upgraded for ics, and with any os this takes time.
By far the most common instability in these roms is chair to keyboard interface. That's right user error lol it astounds me the number of people that can't even be bothered to read simple instructions!
Take your time, back up and play around, if you take the time to do it right I'm sure you will love ics as much as those of us using it now. If you find it lacking, or your favorite app is not ready for prime time you can always go back.
One more thing this is my 4th android device and the devs that are slaying this device are awesome! Thanks to you all and if I haven't already bought you a round or two, its coming!
Face unlock and voice input work. Battery life varies like always but seems good. The apps I use work fine but there are some that don't. Read about some.folks having problems with launcher apps. I think at this point most of the ics features are there but remember its not either or, when the ota ics drops you can just switch to that or a rim with that ad a base. There will be plenty!
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Boom. What he said. This is probably the most stable releases I have seen for a device. The devs are great.
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I also enjoy being able to run tether in infrastructure mode, something GB has been unable to do for me. The grouping folders on the launch bar is great. I also noticed that the roms run extremely smooth. Sense also seems to have lost a bit of weight from GB.
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Just wondering what app/method you're using for infrastructure tethering? I'm trying to tether my Rezound running stock ICS to my HP Touchpad running CM9 but the Touchpad doesn't work with adhoc.
But to join in on the discussion, I'm very happy with ICS on my Round. Very stable for me.
My response was pertaining to the asop ics
I had repeated crashes.camera,mms,Email, lock screen, wallpapers, and widgets all crashed. Sorry what I perceive as stable, and what you perceive as stable differ.
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The most notable things in ICS are hardware acceleration and multi-core cpu support.
tapoore said:
Just wondering what app/method you're using for infrastructure tethering? I'm trying to tether my Rezound running stock ICS to my HP Touchpad running CM9 but the Touchpad doesn't work with adhoc.
But to join in on the discussion, I'm very happy with ICS on my Round. Very stable for me.
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the way i got it to run in Infrastructure mode was under the device settings or whatever its called where you select your device, change it from auto to galaxy nexus cdma/lte, DO NOT turn on the encryption, if you need to keep ppl out enable access control, turn on router fixing, and it should work just fine. some devices might still have an issue with it, but not many.
I'm running Newtoroot's Senseless ICS ROM and it's fantastic. I'm probably not going to flash another ROM for 2, 3 days tops (sigh). I'll actually probably wait until they have CM9 up and running as a daily driver. They finally fixed the ICS camera, which I was able to extract from the CM9 build and install in the system / app folder. I finally have all the mega pixels back.
I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
I have never used CM7 since I just got my Touchpad a few weeks ago when CM9 was out. But CM9 is stable. Just doesnt have camera or mic working. I dont know if these issues are the same with CM7. But if your mom has no need for all the apps android has to offer, she can just use webOS which is more stable than both CM7 and CM9.
Wond3r said:
I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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Dont bother at all with CM7. CM9 and other ICS roms are far more stable. Pretty much everything works except for the camera and microphone. Battery life is nowhere near as good as in webOS, expect about 2 days of standby or about 5 hours of constant usage. Some people have wifi issues, but they're more often than not fixed by setting the router to avoid higher channels (keep it on 6 or below). The vibrate motor also for some reason stops working after the device goes into sleep, and the only way to get it going again is to reboot but I dont think that's a big issue for anyone.
As for a ROM, I'd recommend CM9 not because its the best but because its the one I'm most familiar with, and I can say its fairly stable. Sometimes it will randomly reboot, but never while actively using it. I'm using a nightly, but since you're giving this to a family member you might be better off with the better tested Alpha 2.
Stable Rom: Classicnerd
For me the most stable rom has been classicnerd's latest version. I have been using it and donot get any force closes or reboots. You can find the latest version at classicnerd.net/Betas/
as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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Dual booting is the only way to do it. As far as I know, you cant replace webOS. When you follow the instructions to install android, you also install what is called a moboot that lets you select which operating system to boot into when starting the device. Switching between the two is easy and is just a matter of restarting your device.
Wond3r said:
I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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CM7, yes.
Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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Just depends on how adept she is at technology. If she can decently run a computer and text, she should be mostly okay. The one thing I would highly recommend is to make sure she can fix the wifi authentication problem. Basically, every now and then, wifi will have an authentication problem. When this happens, she needs to go to wifi settings, forget the router, toggle wifi off/on, and sign back into the router. This problem usually occurs for me when I leave wifi on and then reboot or get a random reboot. Takes maybe a minute to fix. As far as ROM, I like oat's light and tasty, although they're all pretty good, as they have the same base.
Sorry, I have to get this out of my system, then I'll be back to polite nice Canadian. In short, try one and see.
<rant mode on>
One of these days, people will actually glance through the forums as opposed to posting a new thread. This thread has been duplicated many other times before now.
In the end, again, just grab one, take it for a spin, and try it. Start with the more official ones, and work out from there until you find something you like. If nothing suits your fancy, take the source and make your own. It's pretty simple. So please stop spamming the boards with "Which ROM should I use" threads. </rant mode off>
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Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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I have tried CN and others but, I think that Oat's light n' tasty is the best so far. All my games run great and so does netflix and YouTube. But, a Rom is only good if it runs the apps you like. You I'll have to find the one that works best for you. I still think webOS is still good. Just my $0.02
I figured one more opinion can't hurt.
I've been using AOKP on my touchpad ever since I found out that they build roms for hp touchpads. It's great, so is CM9 but for some reason my touchpad refuses to behave with CM9, I'm talking random reboots, wifi issues, SOD (screen of death), and so on. ClassicNerd is also great too but I fell in love with the ROM control options available with AOKP.
Either way, one of the earlier posts mentioned that battery life is weak with ICS which is NOT the case for me, I always have wifi on, with my CPU overclocked to the maximum available frequency and get about 7 days, yes 7 DAYS, of standby and at least a full day of constant use.
As for skype, it is not fully functional with all android devices, just the few that the skype people officially support, I've tried it on my phone and it gave me a lot of issues, so even if the mic and cam were working I doubt skype would work well enough on the TP.
Obviously as others have mentioned earlier ICS is much better on the TP than GB, plus you have the great option of dual booting so you could always use WebOS which is pretty decent itself.
All in all, the TP was a great $100 investment and has a lot of support from some great devs out there. My almost 3 years old nephew has one and he loves it too lol
if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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I found your answer on another thread:
cdzo72 said:
I read somewhere that the tweaks were in one way or another no longer relevant or in some form had been incorporated into Android starting with Gingerbread... I think the post is actually in this thread. I myself was using it for a while but after reading that I stopped flashing it and haven't missed it
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A friend of mine recently got a Samsung Vibrant from someone in his family. The thing is still on Eclair. He wants a custom rom. Now, i know XDA's policy on "What's the best rom" kinda threads, and i would just tell him to try them all till he finds one that satisfies his needs, but he himself doesn't have a clue about the entire process, and i'm all he's got. He's also not gonna be in town for much longer, so i need to flash him a rom quickly before he leaves. The only requirements are:
1) Should be stable
2) Should have fair battery life.
3) should be atleast ICS. This part is absolutely crucial, as his college WIFI uses a proxy, and there's absolutely no way to access this on pre 4.0 devices (Well, it's also available in 3.0, but that's not applicable here).
Can someone recommend a good rom?
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A friend of mine recently got a Samsung Vibrant from someone in his family. The thing is still on Eclair. He wants a custom rom. Now, i know XDA's policy on "What's the best rom" kinda threads, and i would just tell him to try them all till he finds one that satisfies his needs, but he himself doesn't have a clue about the entire process, and i'm all he's got. He's also not gonna be in town for much longer, so i need to flash him a rom quickly before he leaves. The only requirements are:
1) Should be stable
2) Should have fair battery life.
3) should be atleast ICS. This part is absolutely crucial, as his college WIFI uses a proxy, and there's absolutely no way to access this on pre 4.0 devices (Well, it's also available in 3.0, but that's not applicable here).
Can someone recommend a good rom?
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CM10.1 Nightly or HellyBean will be my recommendations.
sada23 said:
CM10.1 Nightly or HellyBean will be my recommendations.
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Don't go with a nightly rom, they sometimes are not stable. Also avoid ICS roms, they have the EUbug (renders internal sd card useless). Go with a jellybean rom (4.2), my favorite is Avatar rom, very stable and tons of themes.
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As much as I love all the available custom roms out there, there is a trade off with memory consumption, gps, Bluetooth, etc. I would have to recommend using a rom made for the phone if you want something stable. I would not use ICS though. I finally made up my mind and will be using a optimized Froyo rom with no bloat, customizations, themes. Just do what a phone was suppose to do.
If wants stability & speed try trigger(froyo 2.2,all works) if wants some modern try slimbean or infamous AOKP,but have GPS issues(4.2.2) this roms works with 170-210 free ram.Vibrant t959 is a good pet for daily work! Good Luck!
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The OP said it has to at least be a 4.0 ROM...........
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Yeah guys, i need a minimum of 4.0, there's no way to get proxy working on any of the lower versions.
Also yeah, i don't think i want a nightly, since this is gonna be a one time flash, there's no way he's gonna flash later nightlies or even a later stable. I give him a rom now and that's exactly what he'll be using for the next year.
Tomorrow I'll be updating infamous aokp. Its stable fast and gives me good battery life. You can flash that!
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Sorry Dev's, I'm sure this should have been in another forum but I know there are others like me that only ready this one as it relates to custom ROMs...
Ok it's been a while since anything stable has been released or updated. Just wondering what ROMs the others here are running on their Photon. Me I've subsided to the official CM7 but am constantly tempted to flash CM9 and 10 just out of boredom and the unyielding need to flash something that "feels" new. Am I alone here?
I'm on pacman rom from december . its quite stable but less video recording.. i am still use mopho for daily use.
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I use AOKP from 12/7. It's the most stable rom I've used but has a few issues for me. SwiftKey force closes when I use the Flow feature. Also the newest maps was force closing so I went to the previous version. Camera works most of the time but obviously video recording doesn't.
To your comment about wanting something to flash, I couldn't agree more. I miss when there were multiple roms to flash each week. I've sort of come to accept the situation we're in and despite the issues, joker and th3bill did a great job keeping our phone going. Most of what I need works sufficiently in th3bill's jellybean builds. I'm pretty content at this point, although I do miss flashing for sure.
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I've figured out I can live with and without a few items.
- screen glitches don't bother me
- I don't care about hdmi output, bluetooth, docking or the car thingy
- Video Cam Illusion works good enough for me
- I don't really care about overclocking
- dont watch a lot of movies, youtube or games so HD video not so important
- the thing with Google Maps not rendering was the killer that kept me back on CM7
Maps will occasionally go blank on this rom, forcing me to end the process and restart it. That happens maybe once in 30 times of using it. There are also very few screen glitches. Sometimes scrolling in browsers will slightly glitch but it's not that bad.
I might go back and try out all of Th3bill's roms from December just to make sure I'm using the best one. I'm even tempted to try to find the old aokp ics build I used to use. That was pretty stable but screen rotation would crash the browser if I remember correctly.
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My signature states what I use but I think its time for a factory wipe. I have too many apps & games,over 200, installed and am having lots of lagging. And yes I actually use many of them over a course of a month and like to test many apps out and remove them if they are not useful. Overall I think its the best ROM due to its "Stock" with some CM7 features and many other fixes! Runs very smooth as long as you don't install a lot of apps and remove them too like me. I know not too convincing what I use and why but I've tried a lot and kept coming back to Hybrid.
I am rooted,locked bootloader running peetr_ hybrid CM7 rom...stabld and nice!
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I've been using th3bill's can forever. It's clean and stable and I love it
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Miui v5
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It's been a long while friends..I do miss flashing...but I've been on AOKP since probably for as long as I can remember 10-11-12..yeah I get the FC's on Map and G+, but totally agree that Joker, Bill, and the other devs did such an awesome job. Waiting for Nexus 5...
I've been using th3bills last CM10 build since December '12. I've tried a couple different roms this year but usually within a day or two I find some quirk that the CM10 rom didn't have and decided to restore its backup. As long as 4.2 roms don't support 3d accel and Miui roms don't support Google Play Services, I see no reason to switch, especially when I can upgrade in 2 months.
Also for everyone running the same rom for the last year, I'm not sure if it's changes in the app itself or the fact that I set all composting be done by cpu in build.prop, but Google Chrome has been working fine for me for the last month.
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I recommend PACMan Rom 4.2.2. Highly stable, very few problems for my Note
phnord said:
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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so many people ask this same question and anyone with real experience here is going to tell you..................
every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
common rule here (im not being a jerk,you should know this) is read, read, read.
to show you how often someone asks this very question, go back out one screen and down about 5 threads "looking for an excellent ROM"
I have posted my honest opinions and what you can expect from all available firmwares.
good luck my friend
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every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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again, if you haven't, read the other post.
from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
personal choice.......PADAWAN........others have had some issues with lag (biggest complaint) and I refer them ( an I have the most thanks on thread) to p.355-378. read through those pages. obviously others have not figured it out cause they don't read. those setting had my phone running better than it ever ran, even out of box.
the only way you will know is to try for yourself. but it is lie Trident gum.............4 out of 5 dentist surveyed.........
as always, good luck in your hunt
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from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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On 4.2 they have option to OC/UV with stock kernels. It can just be a constant adjustment in those values to minimalize the reboots. With 4.3 I guess you can say I had reboots, my problem was the reboot would never complete and would just bootloop.
I am just being patient and giving it some time. I know many are working on it cause there is so little action in development thread. Many impatient members have driven developers away by constant pestering. I think many have learned that lesson. That why it is so quiet.
Trust me, it is the calm before the storm
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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anything 4.3 was doing it. again I am thinking it may have been my APP2ZIPP file.
here is a tip as to what I do when contemplating new ROM...............
obviously I am looking at original OP post for features to what I want. then I go to last page of thread and read backwards. this gives me the most recent problem ROM is having and hint as to whether there is a fix. if it is something I can deal with, then I go for it. if its too much hassle, then I don't.
I thought I was the only one... I I do the exact same thing capt.
2$HAYNE
Now my eyes hurt
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
Now my eyes hurt
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
captemo said:
are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work. :beer:
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work.
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
Since it's become clear to me that the main issue here is finding something both modern and stable, I've started a different thread that makes that clear in the title. It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425090
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
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again, everybody's phone is different. I am not sure why, but my phone cant run CARBON, any version. which kind of bums be out cause of all the options available. many of the 4.2's would do exactly that for me, I get a couple of days out of them, then reboots galore. Carbon, (4.2, 4.3, alternate kernels) is just a no go for me. it's like my phone has an allergy.
it was always suggested to me to try stock KERNEL and let it settle for couple days and hell if I had to flash something, might as well flash a new ROM. then I ran out of ROM's. that's when I started trying KERNELS.
most recently, I have had success with BLOWNFUZE's AOKP and compatible UBER (I think it in OP) and also ROOTBOX w/ UBER. ROOTBOX has some pretty cool features. different sounds and statusbar changing colors in different menus. pretty neat. AOKP, just a bit more stable maybe. I am not sure I had the OC/UV settings dialed in just right though. battery wasn't quite lasting me. want to go back and tweak those some more.
in the meantime, and I don't know why I haven't tried in the past, I have been running SONS of ANDROID. 6 days, stock kernel, NO REBOOTS
in between, I am trying to keep my eyes open for some breakthrough's on 4.3. of course I am also trying work out my options for getting the MEGA 6.3.
again, good luck, read, and remember all phones are just a smidge different. that's smidge can be ALL the difference