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Hey guys.
Am still being torn between the Sensation and the Galaxy S 2 and,although I'm inclining towards the GS2,I still have some issues.Two of them are the biggest:
Plastic body(can live with that) and the absence of Sense(made a rime there! ).
As for the second one,what do you guys think?I saw two days ago that Sense 2.1 has been ported almost fully to the Nexus S,so why wouldn't the GS2 be able to run,say,Sense 3?
Seriously though,imagine this beast and Sense 3.Magic!If it is possible,I'm most probably sold!
Buy a sensation
tolis626 said:
Hey guys.
Am still being torn between the Sensation and the Galaxy S 2 and,although I'm inclining towards the GS2,I still have some issues.Two of them are the biggest:
Plastic body(can live with that) and the absence of Sense(made a rime there! ).
As for the second one,what do you guys think?I saw two days ago that Sense 2.1 has been ported almost fully to the Nexus S,so why wouldn't the GS2 be able to run,say,Sense 3?
Seriously though,imagine this beast and Sense 3.Magic!If it is possible,I'm most probably sold!
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same for me, i'm now a few weeks without sense, and neither launcher pro nor any of the other launchers are comfortable or "smooth" in the same way sense was...
i'm sure it would be possible to port sense to sgs2, but i think this would be a lot of hard work. without some dedicated devs there is absolutely no chance.
in the meanwhile i'm enjoying the sgs2 very much, the hardware is way ahead of anything HTC could offer at the moment - the overall user experience is almost superb...
what do you guys miss because im not understanding. It doesnt offer the same functionality with sense on past Winmo devices. Im not trying to be rude but help me understand what you guys are missing. Is it the eyecandy or flipclock?
I'm curious..
Don't misinterpret the tone of what I'm about to ask.. I assure you it is merely an inquiry..
If people love the sense UI why wouldn't they just exclusively by HTC devices?
Again, don't get me wrong.. I've used Sense (HTC Touch Pro) and Touch Wiz (Captivate, Vibrant, and soon SGS II) and I too miss the integrated prettiness of SenseUI but SenseUI isn't gonna happen on a non-HC device.. I'd venture to say ever.. (If I'm in error here please correct me) Sure I know we cannot predict tomorrow but I've read way too many threads where people have tried and as with most cases with attempted ports there's just too much custom code related to Sense to port to a non-Sense environment.
I'd LOVE to see native SenseUI on a Galaxy class device.. Sadly I doubt we ever will..
Intruda119 we are kinda having a civilized thing here,not intended for flaming.Do you,like any normal human being,have an opinion?If yes,say it.Else,don't criticise others.
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mostyle said:
Don't misinterpret the tone of what I'm about to ask.. I assure you it is merely an inquiry..
If people love the sense UI why wouldn't they just exclusively by HTC devices?
Again, don't get me wrong.. I've used Sense (HTC Touch Pro) and Touch Wiz (Captivate, Vibrant, and soon SGS II) and I too miss the integrated prettiness of SenseUI but SenseUI isn't gonna happen on a non-HC device.. I'd venture to say ever.. (If I'm in error here please correct me) Sure I know we cannot predict tomorrow but I've read way too many threads where people have tried and as with most cases with attempted ports there's just too much custom code related to Sense to port to a non-Sense environment.
I'd LOVE to see native SenseUI on a Galaxy class device.. Sadly I doubt we ever will..
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Well,I want real power this time,that's why I'm turning to the Sam side!
Seriously though,I'd buy HTC again but all my smartphones have been HTC,so I kinda want a break.
What do I like in Sense?Mmm...Never had to answer that one before!Well,for me it's like they took all the good characteristics of other launchers and put them together in a nice,feature-packed(and resource-heavy however)interface.
Well,guess I'll try a detox...
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who cares about Sense? you want Sense UI? get a HTC. i won't be using Sense or TW4 anyways. you want Sense on SGS2? wait for half a year for devs to port a buggy, crashy copy.
people talking about ROMs and crap...wait, noobs....wait
I would like sense, but after reading engadget's review of how it is not as snappy as the galaxy s 2, I wouldn't want to hinder the galaxy s 2 and it's goodness.
I guess im the only one to use 1-2 homescreen pages.
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tolis626 said:
Hey guys.
Am still being torn between the Sensation and the Galaxy S 2 and,although I'm inclining towards the GS2,I still have some issues.Two of them are the biggest:
Plastic body(can live with that) and the absence of Sense(made a rime there! ).
As for the second one,what do you guys think?I saw two days ago that Sense 2.1 has been ported almost fully to the Nexus S,so why wouldn't the GS2 be able to run,say,Sense 3?
Seriously though,imagine this beast and Sense 3.Magic!If it is possible,I'm most probably sold!
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Just remember, software can be changed and upgraded. Hardware can't.
I only use 1.
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I guess im the only one to use 1-2 homescreen pages.
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CM and MIUI are infinitely more important to me than Sense. If I wanted HTC's restrictive UI on my GS2 I would have bought a HTC instead.
Anyway, I doubt you will see a proper port of Sense and all it's required libraries any time soon. They have only just managed to get a usable version on the Galaxy and that phone is over a year old.
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I would like sense, but after reading engadget's review of how it is not as snappy as the galaxy s 2, I wouldn't want to hinder the galaxy s 2 and it's goodness.
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I can't imagine it being laggy, it already runs pretty smooth on the desire anyway the whole sense experience makes things for users much smoother.
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CM and MIUI are infinitely more important to me than Sense. If I wanted HTC's restrictive UI on my GS2 I would have bought a HTC instead.
Anyway, I doubt you will see a proper port of Sense and all it's required libraries any time soon. They have only just managed to get a usable version on the Galaxy and that phone is over a year old.
Sent from my £2.99 Casio digital watch.
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the sense ports are now all based on aprechners's work which he began somewhere in april.
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I can't imagine it being laggy, it already runs pretty smooth on the desire anyway the whole sense experience makes things for users much smoother.
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I'm not sure so much that it is lag. But if i have the same setup on launcherpro and sense and the same animation, the launcherpro just looks SOO MUCH smoother. THink it's something to do with the fps?
I'm curious as well. WHAT is it about Sense that everyone wants? I come from a WM background so for us it's that WM is ****ty and Sense provides a pretty and functional (or as functional as we can get) interface to the user. Android, however, is BRILLIANT and has plenty of apps and launchers and what not that it doesn't need you to have ANOTHER interface controlling everything. Isn't it a blessing not to have sense??
I'd really like to hear your guys opinions.
I think so, seeing as I got bored of it. and switched to launcherpro after a few months, however this was on my first ever android phone and I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a UI overlay for android! If I'd known you could get replacement launchers from the market I would have done it much earlier!
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I'm curious as well. WHAT is it about Sense that everyone wants? I come from a WM background so for us it's that WM is ****ty and Sense provides a pretty and functional (or as functional as we can get) interface to the user. Android, however, is BRILLIANT and has plenty of apps and launchers and what not that it doesn't need you to have ANOTHER interface controlling everything. Isn't it a blessing not to have sense??
I'd really like to hear your guys opinions.
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Well apart from having the best keyboard, email, message, gallery, contact, dialer, and widgets
like friendstream it's also the tight integration of everything with everything and it's beautiful too.
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Well apart from having the best keyboard, email, message, gallery, contact, dialer, and widgets
like friendstream it's also the tight integration of everything with everything and it's beautiful too.
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I agree with the dialer and Widgets. But it hasn't got the best of everything else. Not to mention thr fact that there are better Widgets on the market. I've been using a custimizable, scrolling Calender for a long time now on launcherpro.
And don't know about sense 3 but the gallery on my desire really isn't amazing. Its pretty average and takes a llong time to load images.
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How is touchwiz and is it similar to sense?
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How is touchwiz and is it similar to sense?
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wrong forum, this the evo3d forum.
xBryan said:
wrong forum, this the evo3d forum.
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Thanks for your helpful answer. Now stfu and get out of my thread if you can not post anything helpful. Damn
Youtube the motorola photon, it has the new touch wiz.
I have it on my galaxy tab, its not bad.
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Youtube the motorola photon, it has the new touch wiz.
I have it on my galaxy tab, its not bad.
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Motorolla doesn't use TouchWiz. Its always been "Blur" unless something crazy just happened.
I have used TouchWiz a lot of SGS2 my buddy has. I have the 3Vo.
TouchWiz is balls compared to Sense. Yeah it might be a little more light weight but SO much isn't there.
It doesn't combine your contacts from google, facebook, tango, MS Exchange and your phone very well at ALL! If it does it sure is difficult to figure out. I work on my buddies and it just duplicated everything.
TouchWiz exchange integration is non-existent. For buisness users this is a HUGE must. My people app from sense and email have BB level integration. I start typing an email addy and it auto-searches for HISTORY (awesome like outlook), my exchange server and on my phone. Global Address Book integration...not present in TouchWiz. Wow...so now i have to add 200 contacts for work onto my phone if I want to use them? Not going to happen.
The leap feature is really poorly implemented, hard to get to "leap"...not a big deal though we dont use it that much in Sense really.
It wasn't as smooth when navigating. More robotic.... transitions sucked. You can add Launcher Pro or ADW though
Widgets sucked too...compared to sense.
People, Email, Calendar- suck compared to Sense
NOW I'm a business user so email, agendas, calendar notifications are a BIG deal to me as a consultant.
That being said, their facebook integration (see peoples pictures when they call you and people widget pics) sucked as well. Sense does a real good job of putting everything together automatically and linking everything. Consolidation is HUGE when you have all of these accounts. With Sense you don't even realize how good of a job this does.
That being said, again, SGS2 is a phenominal phone. It really is. The screen is fantastic (little cartoony though) and its a bit faster that EVO 3d at some stuff. I just depend on my phone for too much "Black berry" stuff to ever get away from Sense. Yeah there are third party apps for everything but odds are you have to pay for them (touchdown) and they don't integrate everything together NEARLY as well as Sense does.
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Motorolla doesn't use TouchWiz. Its always been "Blur" unless something crazy just happened.
I have used TouchWiz a lot of SGS2 my buddy has. I have the 3Vo.
TouchWiz is balls compared to Sense. Yeah it might be a little more light weight but SO much isn't there.
It doesn't combine your contacts from google, facebook, tango, MS Exchange and your phone very well at ALL! If it does it sure is difficult to figure out. I work on my buddies and it just duplicated everything.
TouchWiz exchange integration is non-existent. For buisness users this is a HUGE must. My people app from sense and email have BB level integration. I start typing an email addy and it auto-searches for HISTORY (awesome like outlook), my exchange server and on my phone. Global Address Book integration...not present in TouchWiz. Wow...so now i have to add 200 contacts for work onto my phone if I want to use them? Not going to happen.
The leap feature is really poorly implemented, hard to get to "leap"...not a big deal though we dont use it that much in Sense really.
It wasn't as smooth when navigating. More robotic.... transitions sucked. You can add Launcher Pro or ADW though
Widgets sucked too...compared to sense.
People, Email, Calendar- suck compared to Sense
NOW I'm a business user so email, agendas, calendar notifications are a BIG deal to me as a consultant.
That being said, their facebook integration (see peoples pictures when they call you and people widget pics) sucked as well. Sense does a real good job of putting everything together automatically and linking everything. Consolidation is HUGE when you have all of these accounts. With Sense you don't even realize how good of a job this does.
That being said, again, SGS2 is a phenominal phone. It really is. The screen is fantastic (little cartoony though) and its a bit faster that EVO 3d at some stuff. I just depend on my phone for too much "Black berry" stuff to ever get away from Sense. Yeah there are third party apps for everything but odds are you have to pay for them (touchdown) and they don't integrate everything together NEARLY as well as Sense does.
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Thank you for the detailed answer. I appreciate it! Thinking bout getting me a Note and wanted to know
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Touchwiz is Samsungs own half-assed attempt to leave their own branding on Android as HTC does with Sense. The major differences are that Sense is both somewhat attractive and adds functionality, Touchwiz..... well, is ugly and doesn't work well at all.
Ha... Now sone input from someone who actually has a touchwiz phone XD. I also have an hd2 with sense 3 on it. First off, Touchwiz is hands down the slickest implementation of a skin on Android. By no means is it the most feature filled(I would argue the worst..), but with that said, it's so lightweight. It let's you customize you're homescreen in a more user friendly manner than everything out there and has a neat motion zoom control. The slide down task bar is more eye friendly and simple than sense, but lacks features. Same with the lockscreen. If you're looking for slicker and lightweight environment (a relief from imo bogged down sense in too many ways), get a Samsung phone. I saw you mention the Note... and if so, I've read nothing but amazing reviews of the thing. It's in a class of it's own. Don't expect any quick updates though.
Also, a user by the name of fr4ggor released Touchwiz 4.5(customizable version of tw4.) You could try it to get a 'sense'(ha) of what Touchwiz is about. (though reports of it being faulty for screens other than 800x480.)
Samsung makes generally superior internals(processor, screen, even camera..) and crazy light weight construction and software. You sacrifice build quality though.
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Yea on paper and from reviews/videos the note is the perfect phone for me big screen and all. I want it bad
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My friend went from his galaxy to a sensation and much prefers sense over touchwiz. Only complaint he has for his HTC over his Samsung is the speaker.
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Touchwiz is more like a custom ROM. Lightweight,fast, smooth, no bloatware and full of tweaks for performance and benchmarking.
Sense on the otherhand is more like a retail ROM. Stuffed with features to satisfy everyone. But it has a lot of blowtwarE. UI is smooth but not as smooth as touchwiz.
Think of it this way. Touchwiz is like windows xp. Fast light but lacks special features.
Sense 3.0 is like windows vista. Drastic UI change but disappointingly slow.
Sense 3.5 is like windows 7. Good UI and fast.
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I have noticed some people comment that they don't like Sense, but they don't say why. It seems fine to me. Can anyone tell me the downside?
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It's a resource hog, plain and simple. The look and feel isn't bad, better than some of the other overlays for sure, but I much prefer stock Google for look and feel too.
With 3.6 and earlier, I didn't really care too much about Sense, but over time I started to really appreciate how they included everything I need instead of only a few things that don't work so well. I really don't like AOSP widgets, for example.
Then when Sense 4 came around, I knew I loved Sense after all. It's so polished and usable.
Maybe if I used widgets, I'd like Sense better. The only widget I run regularly is weather.
One of the things I find so invaluable about Sense is the calendar widgets. They are by far the best I've ever used on Android, and I've yet to find a Google Play app that provides widgets on the same level.
The music app on Sense is also really decent already and integrates perfectly with the lock screen.
Oh, and Peep is pretty decent as well. The Twitter app it comes with is rather nice.
I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.
The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
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I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.
The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
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The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
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It's cool but I just get bored with it. It feels simple.
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luke61456789 said:
The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
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I've never used AOSP on the Rezound (I don't even have my Rez anymore) so I don't know what that's like
I love sense personally. And since 4, sense 4.1, and sense 4.5 all have lots to like about them.
I like AOSP too, but I get bored with it after a little while and miss sense.
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No. Boo on Sense.
I like sense, but its all I've used since my eris, inc1 and inc2. My wife has moto and I hate the look of it. I have flashed aosp roms before. Aosp is faster and smoother, but I don't like having to spend all the time to set up the look of my phone and the widgets aren't that greatand stock camera leaves a lot to be desired. Sense widgets are really useful and polished and the camera is one of the best. And it looks good already so I don't have to download a lot of themes and widgets from the market if I don't want to. I read an article that said sense takes away from the enginuity or innovation of android. But most android updates have included things that sense already incorporated previously. I had multi-touch pinch zoom and flash on donut, android added it in eclair. Sense had pinch to show all your homescreens in froyo but stock android didn't add it until gingerbread. But as mentioned before, it is a resource hog and you will get the most from your hardware with aosp. So its a give and take and really up to the user, but I prefer it.
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The sense 4 launcher is great. And that is it.
Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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This.
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Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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Totally agree. I never realized how ****ty the stock camera was until I started comparing my images from before AOSP and after switching to AOSP. Now that I am stuck with this ****ty AOSP camera, I am starting to realize why so damn many people use that stupid Instagram app!
I like some of the integrations that Sense has. It's gotten better, but it's still a bit sluggish to me. I've flopped back and forth between AOSP and Sense ROMs.
I liked Skyraider back on my thunderbolt, but that was 2.1. I liked the look of 4.0 but didn't really enjoy the feeling til 4.1. I switch between aosp and sense basically every other day. Lol.
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Of ALL the mobile operating systems out there, plain old vanilla Android is far and away the ugliest, most unrefined SOB in the group. It NEEDS something to dress it up. I actually wish Sense would go further. Like how about a real dictionary? BlackBerry and Apple put Android to shame in that department. And why do Android stock widgets have to be so unsightly and feature poor? Android's stock camera app has pretty much sucked on just about every device I've ever flashed it on, too. I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice speed for functionality if all the speed is doing is making another ugly, unrefined app, widget, or screen appear before me quicker. I've never handed a phone to someone after flashing AOSP on it and have them say "Hot damn, that ugly crap is FAST!", but I have handed phones to people with tight custom ROMs and fast kernels and had them say "Wow... This is the smoothest (fill in the blank) I've ever seen!"
aosp is ugly and boring. seems very utilitarian. I love how my rezound looks, but performance wise, I like the speed of aosp. I'm a certified sense lover, especially after having the nexus and the s3, and I can't wait for the dlx running the newest version.
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Hey guys,
I know the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) is coming out in a few days but was wondering whether there is anything I would be missing out on if I had the nexus version.
Even upon doing lots of research, it seems like Sense 5 is very good but I wanted your guy's experiences. (ex: one of the links I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121382-htc-one-google-edition-vs-htc-one-what-s-the-difference)
Is there any advantage of waiting for the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) and the current version? What are the things I should consider?
I was looking around at the ROMs for the T-Mobile HTC One, and none of them seemed to have Sense 5...so is sense really that bad / worse than stock?
Thanks so much!
You'll miss so much if you buy the regular Tmobile One! You'll miss not having Zoe, blinkfeed, wifi calling, htc remote, and all the sense improvements that you can easily disable by simply flashing a different rom...
I think it's silly that they made a vanilla One, you get the same phone but none of the surprisingly nice software that HTC made for it. It's like buying a "special" pair of shoes, and by "special" I mean they don't come with shoelaces.
I have used the HTC remote feature several times once set up works perfectly, also I don't think the camera will be as good seeing as technically it is 4.3mp with out the software enhancements it might be crappy as well the WiFi calling comes in handy so much and I had the nexus 4 on T-Mobile HTC one in my opinion is smoother than stock which is hard to find they did really well with every aspect of this phone
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Hm.
But I was worried about the fact that updates are super slow to come from Tmobile.
We aren't even at 4.2.2 yet and if Sense 5 is so great how come we don't have Sense 5 roms in the development sections? (side note, what is "android development" vs "ORIGINAL android development").
I figured if Sense 5 was so good and better than stock, then we would have lots of Sense 5 roms.
Thanks!
There are a lot of sense 5 roms,And good ones I've been using sense 5 roms running 4.2.2 and couldn't be happier,a few good ones to check out are (venom)vipor, trickdroid, sentinel,opencoin plus quite a few more these are just the ones I ran and use the venom as my daily driver and love it so much this Rom is so customizable it'll blow your mind and stable,fast I just live it plus great dev abd support again I wouldnt give up my ir,camera software,BoomSound plus more for vanilla android
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There are a lot of sense 5 roms,And good ones I've been using sense 5 roms running 4.2.2 and couldn't be happier,a few good ones to check out are (venom)vipor, trickdroid, sentinel,opencoin plus quite a few more these are just the ones I ran and use the venom as my daily driver and love it so much this Rom is so customizable it'll blow your mind and stable,fast I just live it plus great dev abd support again I wouldnt give up my ir,camera software,BoomSound plus more for vanilla android
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I see...do the M7 roms work or are you referring to our roms in the T-mobile HTC One sections? (I guess when I searched the titles and front pages of the roms, I didn't find anything when I searched "sense").
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I see...do the M7 roms work or are you referring to our roms in the T-mobile HTC One sections? (I guess when I searched the titles and front pages of the roms, I didn't find anything when I searched "sense").
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M7 is the proper name for our phones just go under HTC one in the forums not specific tmobile HTC one most are for all carriers except sprint but it'll tell u I love the vipor rom
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RepusJonathan said:
Hey guys,
I know the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) is coming out in a few days but was wondering whether there is anything I would be missing out on if I had the nexus version.
Even upon doing lots of research, it seems like Sense 5 is very good but I wanted your guy's experiences. (ex: one of the links I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121382-htc-one-google-edition-vs-htc-one-what-s-the-difference)
Is there any advantage of waiting for the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) and the current version? What are the things I should consider?
I was looking around at the ROMs for the T-Mobile HTC One, and none of them seemed to have Sense 5...so is sense really that bad / worse than stock?
Thanks so much!
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Well, you can do what I did... and I really like Sense 5 with one exception: we can only scroll left to right, and right to left. No continuous scroll. So I installed Nova Launcher, the sunbeam live wallpaper, and an analog clock. Look and feel is like GPE, but I still have an icon to get into blink feed, And I still have Zoe and Video highlights.
Try it.
-T
I have had my One M8 two weeks now, LOVING this phone, and one of the selling points to me personally, was the ablity to go flash the GPE Nexus type ROM, and not be stuck on Sense. And I am a huge Nexus stock Android fan, having owned the Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus 4, but after the N4 I moved on to Samsung's Note 2, and then Galaxy S4. So last experience with stock Android was 4.1 Jellybean, haven't played with any Kit Kat builds before.
Long story short, I am liking Sense 6 way more than GPE's Kit Kat 4.4.2. and I never would have thought or expected that in a million years, being such a long time Nexus fan. I tried out two different GPE ROMs this week, and certain things in stock Kit Kat I can't stand.
- #1 the Phone dialer / Contacts, wow those suck now, why did Google change the Phone app they've had since ICS 4.0 ? I use my phone a lot to actually make calls, this new new Dialer sucks, and the Contacts is super bright white and very plane, really no features on it. I have read that a whole new Phone dialer app is coming in a upcoming 4.4.3 update. But I miss the awesome Phone app from 4.0 to 4.3, which was all Black with blue numbers, and swipe to to the right to go to contacts, etc...
- #2 the icon sizes are gigantic, like crazy huge, can't fit much on the home screen, I know a Launcher gets rid of that, but sometimes I like to run bone stock, and with those giant icons it looks weird and silly.
- #3 Battery life is definitely worse than a Sense based ROM, by a good amount IMO. My Sense based ROMs were giving me crazy good battery life, like 6h to 7h On Screen time, and total battery life of 24+ hours easily. These two GPE ROMs I tired, would only give like 4h to 5h On screen time, and maybe 15 hours total battery life.
- #4 Speed. I was always under the impression that stock Android was way faster than a UI like Sense or Touchwiz. The Sense 6 ROMs I was running were super fast and silky smooth. The GPE ROMs were also pretty quick too, but no way did not feel any faster than Sense. Just going off my own personal use, it felt like Sense was the faster UI. My point being, stock GPE Android was NOT faster or smoother, no. It was a tie, and if anything Sense won by a hair.
- #5 The look of the UI. Sense 6 has a really cool black / white / blue theme going on, and flat design, it looks really professional, and minimalistic, just smartly designed and well thought out. Where stock Kit Kat is starting to look like a Hodge podge of old Ice Cream Sandwich mixed together with the newer Google Now cards stuff, it's like stock Android can't make up it's mind, is it still Holo themed, or going for the new lighter Card style ? The menu still looks the same as from the Galaxy Nexus from 2011, but other parts look very fresh and totally different. I think we need Android 5.0 to usher in a new uniform design theme for stock Android.
To wrap this up, I am no HTC fan boy, my last HTC was the EVO 4G way back from 2010. I am really more of a Nexus stock Android guy, I guess I just don't like the Kit Kat updates from Jellybean. I was very satisfied with Jellybean. And this Sense 6 blew me away, really shocked I actually like it better than stock Android. It looks great, is smartly designed and laid out, and is super smooth / fast, with insanely good battery life. Next stock Android phone or ROM I'll run will be to wait for at least 4.4.3, and most likely the next big update with the HTC Nexus-Six this Fall.
I agree with you so much about the phone dialer on gpe. I had this on my nexus 5 and hated it. What were they thinking. There are so many people who love it too, but its just not for me. You can change your dpi to make icons a lot smaller on stock launcher. Looks really nice at 370 instead of 480. I prefer sense too.
I am on my third GPE ROM now. This time running the official real ROM. Let's see how I like this ?
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I am on my third GPE ROM now. This time running the official real ROM. Let's see how I like this ?
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Im in the same exact position , battery life on gpe was sad compare to the sense im on golden eye right now , waiting for dev to updaye the gpe cauz i heard that an update was coming to dev edition to add the extreme power save option , we'll see
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/05/02/htc-one-m8-extreme-power-saving-mode/
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Back to InsertCoin Sense 6 based ROM, and feels like home on this phone. Just so silky smooth, with insanely good battery life. Plus running Nova launcher + icon pack, doesn't even look like a Sense phone now, but it's all Sense running behind the scenes giving me the excellent battery life and stability.
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I am on my third GPE ROM now. This time running the official real ROM. Let's see how I like this ?
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I need the original since I didn't backup mine! Where can I find it? I'm on an AT&T M8.
I would appreciate the help. TIA.
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in my pre HTC One days I tried a bunch of different roms on my various Motorola & Samsung phones, but always ended up back with either CyanogenMod or a variant of CM.
With this phone all I have really done is root, S-Off and remove some bloat and CarrierIQ.
Otherwise it's stock. I can't find a compelling reason to change.. Hell, I was even rocking the stock launcher for a couple of weeks. Didn't really mind it. I'm back to Nova for a bit just to see if I really do like it that much more. Can't decide!
i agree. coming from my my Google Play Edition. the m8 and Sense just gives you so much more without sacrificing any performance.
Always ran asop roms on my Samsung's. Coming from the gs5's touchgizz this is just so nice. Got this so I could flash again and I don't need too. Stock sense it's beautiful.
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Absolutely agree, loving sense 6. Only two things that drive me crazy are the vertical scrolling in the app drawer, which is fixed with a launcher, and the haptic feedback seems very very weak to me when pressing things like the keyboard and the on-screen navigation keys.
Back and forth between Sense ROM's and GPE, but Sense 6 just looks more consistent, and a very professional layout, overall a very beautiful and minimalistic UI, that looks great on this LCD screen. I love the black theme throughout, with white backgrounds, and I have a simple theme installed, named InsertCoin Blue, it replaces all green stuff with blue.
I just found GPE and stock Android to look like a hodgepodge now, and I am a huge Nexus guy. But certain areas in stock Android, look dated like from ICS 4.0 with dark grey holo theme, mixed with the new Kit Kat lighter card theme. Making Android look like a mix of old and new.
I think Google needs a solid consistent theme in Android 5.0, which I am sure it will be. But for now I find Sense 6 to looks the best, and very clean and simple, as well as butter smooth IMO.
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Back and forth between Sense ROM's and GPE, but Sense 6 just looks more consistent, and a very professional layout, overall a very beautiful and minimalistic UI, that looks great on this LCD screen. I love the black theme throughout, with white backgrounds, and I have a simple theme installed, named InsertCoin Blue, it replaces all green stuff with blue.
I just found GPE and stock Android to look like a hodgepodge now, and I am a huge Nexus guy. But certain areas in stock Android, look dated like from ICS 4.0 with dark grey holo theme, mixed with the new Kit Kat lighter card theme. Making Android look like a mix of old and new.
I think Google needs a solid consistent theme in Android 5.0, which I am sure it will be. But for now I find Sense 6 to looks the best, and very clean and simple, as well as butter smooth IMO.
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Especially after the update yesterday, I find no compelling reason to even bother with a custom rom. I'm rooted with S-Off, and the only mods I have done are the Harmon Kardon mod, plus custom bootup/down splash screens..
Otherwise I'm bone stock and loving it.
Long time Samsung user here so I ran just about every type of ROM there is and I'll have to say that I agree. Never thought I'd be satisfied with stock firmware but HTC got sense 6 right spot on with aesthetics, functionality and battery. Naturally, I've rooted and s-offed but I don't plan on changing it up any time soon. Been a long long time since I've had a glitch free user experience
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I agree I've tried all different kinds of ROMS. I presently use ACR V2.2. Not sure if it's available on AT&T variant or not as I have VZW.
It's stock Sense with ALL bloat removed. I think he presently has it down to a size of 381mb on V2.6. It's simple, runs smooth, and gets decent battery life. I used Sense toolbox 6 to customize the status bar a bit and a few other small mods, I also use nova launcher so I can customize icons. Although I will admit he's made changes that I'm not happy with newer versions as to why I'm still on V2.2. I've also replaced standard Google apps with dark black replacements where I could and use dark apps where I can. I like dark themes.
Either way guys it's worth checking out if you like slim and minimalistic Sense 6. It's the nice thing about it, it gives you a nice base ROM that you can mod or not to your liking.
Not knocking other ROMS & the hard work that goes into them but they go way over the top with way too many options and unneeded stuff IMO.
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Yea sense 6 is amazing. Especially coming from touchwiz. From samsung, it was an out of the box as soon as I get home flash of aosp but sense is amazing and has some nice features and a beautiful feel and look to it. I'm really enjoying it coupled with xposed mod modules
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I tried the gpe rom and the quadrant score consistently hovered around 17500 vs the 24000 on sense 6.
What gives?
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Samsung TW user for awhile here .... And I gotta say that I'm impressed with sense 6 nice and zero LAG .... So far I'm loving this M8. ....
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Tried GPE with full converson.. tried custom sense roms along with sense 6 tool box and Venom Tweaks..
There is really no compelling reason for me to use a custom rom..There are clear performance benefits to using an odexed rom.. and when it comes to that.. nothing beats stock sense 6.
So I flashed the RUU.. and my phone is not even rooted.. Sense 6 I think is a little bit more consistent and smooth than stock (can't believe I'm saying it.. but I think it's true).
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Absolutely agree, loving sense 6. Only two things that drive me crazy are the vertical scrolling in the app drawer, which is fixed with a launcher, and the haptic feedback seems very very weak to me when pressing things like the keyboard and the on-screen navigation keys.
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Totally agree about the vertical scrolling as well as the black background in the app drawer (instead of it being a bit semitransparent ).
Totally agree. Am currently on GPE and I get routinely frustrated due to some functionality that's missing. For example, in the notification drawer, touching the WiFi button takes me to the settings menu. In sense, it just turns off the WiFi (which I want)!
The settings menu in sense also has so many more options than GPE its actually easier than having fewer options as in GPE. Overall, Sense wins by a significant margin for me both from a usability standpoint and general awesomeness