Firts, i know that BE won't work on unlocked bootloader because of DRM key lost. And BE is the only thing i miss from locked bootloader.
Today i have rollback my Xperia P to Gingerbread (6.0.B.3.184) and yes, BE worked!
I know there are some developers try to port the new BE2 to Xperia P, but i wonder if we can port the "old" BE from GB to ICS/JB to make it work on unlocked bootloader?
Want Bravia engine back
GVN.Gallus said:
Firts, i know that BE won't work on unlocked bootloader because of DRM key lost. And BE is the only thing i miss from locked bootloader.
Today i have rollback my Xperia P to Gingerbread (6.0.B.3.184) and yes, BE worked!
I know there are some developers try to port the new BE2 to Xperia P, but i wonder if we can port the "old" BE from GB to ICS/JB to make it work on unlocked bootloader?
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I had also unlocked my bootloader and I am really Missing My Bravia engine...
you said BE worked On GB.. what if We Relock Bootloader On Gb and Then Upgrade to ICS.. Wil It work..??
and Isnt anyway to get back DRm keys..??
I am having SXU..
ShubhamSXU said:
I had also unlocked my bootloader and I am really Missing My Bravia engine...
you said BE worked On GB.. what if We Relock Bootloader On Gb and Then Upgrade to ICS.. Wil It work..??
and Isnt anyway to get back DRm keys..??
I am having SXU..
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No i think it won't work, you can't get ur DRM key back, in GB, i think sony didn't add check DRM key code to bravia engine. But in ICS they add check drm code or something like that so BE won't work anymore. In JellyBean it work again but only in video.
Bravia engine back
GVN.Gallus said:
No i think it won't work, you can't get ur DRM key back, in GB, i think sony didn't add check DRM key code to bravia engine. But in ICS they add check drm code or something like that so BE won't work anymore. In JellyBean it work again but only in video.
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But I think we can cure this ****.. If we can make a whole new we can do anything..
XDA developers are best..
ShubhamSXU said:
But I think we can cure this ****.. If we can make a whole new we can do anything..
XDA developers are best..
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Yeah, hope some devs can port BE from GB to ICS and JB.
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Hi, I just upgraded from ArcS to Xperia S, and bought a proper sim-free Xperia S. I did the test in the service menu, and it says Bootloader unlock allowed.
Now i'm guessing when you unlock, that you lose DRM keys and other stuff (like the Arc did). I only really want root, without losing anything that I can't get back.
What's the best method? Is unlocking the bootloader the only option open to me?
Thanks.
Hi CrazyPeter
Take a look at this threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790604
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
I don't know if the DRM keys will be deleted or not. But I think while the Bootloader is untouched, the DRM keys also will be left untouched??
andronym said:
Hi CrazyPeter
Take a look at this threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790604
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
I don't know if the DRM keys will be deleted or not. But I think while the Bootloader is untouched, the DRM keys also will be left untouched??
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Sorry, should have said running 4.0.4...
CrazyPeter said:
Sorry, should have said running 4.0.4...
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that method works for gingerbread also i have tested my self just flash GB in all steps instead of flashing ICS
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
brahweiz said:
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
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You cannot flash kernels in locked bootloader.. And most of the mods are also there for unlocked one.. Unlocked bootloader has very few Roms.. Better unlock it and experience a whole new world for your phone
There's no different in apps or mod.
But there's rom. Most rom here are build for unlock bootloader, u can overclock and stuff.
Pretty cool but u will lose DRM keys. So no more "download music info" in walkman. All apps that need DRM keys won't work,
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darth5zaft said:
There's no different in apps or mod.
But there's rom. Most rom here are build for unlock bootloader, u can overclock and stuff.
Pretty cool but u will lose DRM keys. So no more "download music info" in walkman. All apps that need DRM keys won't work,
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what is the diff btwn or how they make same ROM available for locked and unlocked boot loader
Is the xpedia's bootloader locked by default? If so how can I unlock it? ?
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fdothivanka said:
Is the xpedia's bootloader locked by default? If so how can I unlock it? ?
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Yes it is, and there are guides in this forums by DoomLord.
From my own experience, the only thing I miss is walkman's "download music info" which I don't consider important. If you are one of the "flashers" I suggest unlocking it
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brahweiz said:
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
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lock bootloader mean u can't flash any kernel and u just can flash stock based rom..unlock bootloader allowed u to flash any custom kernel that is compatible with any custom rom u want to flash..
Hit thanks if u understand what i'm explaining..:good:
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mmckoyuki said:
lock bootloader mean u can't flash any kernel and u just can flash stock based rom..unlock bootloader allowed u to flash any custom kernel that is compatible with any custom rom u want to flash
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This and other mentioned are RESULTS of difference but where is difference ITSELF ?
WHY cant I flash any kernel except stock ?
Don't tell me "because you go brick".
It is RESULT.
I can flash stock rom and it communicates with locked BL however - I think - new stock rom has it's own management of booting.
Then - base question is NOT explained and I am really curious of answer.
Locked bootloader means it can only boot sony signed kernel
NO CUSTOM KERNEL NO ALWAYS ROOT
Unlocked means it can boot any kernel made for that device
You can always have root and have custom kernels
You can also get CM and all new features
The rom for locked bootloader can work in unlocked but vice versa is dangerous
jatinrungta said:
Locked bootloader means it can only boot sony signed kernel
NO CUSTOM KERNEL NO ALWAYS ROOT
Unlocked means it can boot any kernel made for that device
You can always have root and have custom kernels
You can also get CM and all new features
The rom for locked bootloader can work in unlocked but vice versa is dangerous
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u can root on locked bootloader:fingers-crossed:
Does bravia engine works with unlocked bootloader?
And which apps need DRM keys?I'm thinking of unlocking my bootloader.
Mtakween said:
u can root on locked bootloader:fingers-crossed:
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I know that I meant its not sure if new firmware will be rooted or not or will take how much time to get rooted but with unlocked you can always root
umair42 said:
Does bravia engine works with unlocked bootloader?
And which apps need DRM keys?I'm thinking of unlocking my bootloader.
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NO, bravia won't work and this is the only thing i miss from locked bootloader.
As far as i know DRM stand for Digital rights management, so you can't download music info anymore. But there are many modded walkman apps can do that.
GVN.Gallus said:
NO, bravia won't work and this is the only thing i miss from locked bootloader.
As far as i know DRM stand for Digital rights management, so you can't download music info anymore. But there are many modded walkman apps can do that.
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No bravia engine so no unlocked bootloader for me.I will stay with locked bl then.
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u can root on locked bootloader:fingers-crossed:
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Yes. That I did, on older stock ROM, ST26i_11.0.A.3.28_WE. Lost root after upgrade to latest.
Downgraded, prefer have root than latest ROM however speed is about 15% higher on new ROM, must be better kernel and libraries.
F308 said:
Yes. That I did, on older stock ROM, ST26i_11.0.A.3.28_WE. Lost root after upgrade to latest.
Downgraded, prefer have root than latest ROM however speed is about 15% higher on new ROM, must be better kernel and libraries.
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why would u want to downgrade? u can have root access on every ROM even if your bootloader is locked.
So for unlocked bootloader just flash a custom kernel with "autoroot" function. Once u flashed that kernel, u will have root access after reboot.
For both locked and unlocked bootloader this tool from b1nary should also work...
BTW dude ST26i? Thats Xperia J... This is the P, U, Sola & Go forum...:silly:
darth5zaft said:
There's no different in apps or mod.
But there's rom. Most rom here are build for unlock bootloader, u can overclock and stuff.
Pretty cool but u will lose DRM keys. So no more "download music info" in walkman. All apps that need DRM keys won't work,
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i found rom with walkman (i cant rember which) i could download music tracks info. i have sola with unlocked bootloader.
sorry for my bad english
My Xperia z walkman mod had. A fix for download music info
For unlocked bootloader
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brahweiz said:
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
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As the name suggests LOCKED BOOTLOADER means the bootloader is locked and cant be accessed, so you can't install custom kernels as it is locked with the kernel by Sony itself......yes you will lose your DRM keys,you cant use trackid and the download music info which are somewhat pretty useless for me........those were such small sacrifices so you can access the vast open world of modding your phone.....hppe that helps.
HIT THANKS IF I HELPED
stothegee said:
BTW dude ST26i? Thats Xperia J... This is the P, U, Sola & Go forum...:silly:
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I missed it. Thanx for info.
I landed here via search engine. Question was universal enough to fit anywhere.
i have sony xperia s , unlocked boot loader , rooted , cm9
iam willing to relock my bootloader when a stock JB rom is avialable from sony so when i was backing up some apps on titanium backup i saw an option to back up some thing with a long name that contains DRM Codes is this helpful , so relock boot loader , root and then restore them through titanium back up , does it work ?
elias234 said:
i have sony xperia s , unlocked boot loader , rooted , cm9
iam willing to relock my bootloader when a stock JB rom is avialable from sony so when i was backing up some apps on titanium backup i saw an option to back up some thing with a long name that contains DRM Codes is this helpful , so relock boot loader , root and then restore them through titanium back up , does it work ?
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nopes, DRM is on the kernel, when you unlock your bootloaded DRM keys will be erase. You can't never ever get it back !! :cyclops:, but DRM keys are not necessary for me actually
Mr.Krypton said:
nopes, DRM is on the kernel, when you unlock your bootloaded DRM keys will be erase. You can't never ever get it back !! :cyclops:, but DRM keys are not necessary for me actually
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can you tell me exactly what DRM codes are for ?
I now that they stop the functioning of some apps , can you tell me the names of some apps,
elias234 said:
can you tell me exactly what DRM codes are for ?
I now that they stop the functioning of some apps , can you tell me the names of some apps,
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I think album art downloading in Walkman is the only thing that breaks.
Seems that the location button on the messaging menu also doesn't work.
"I got my values. So you can keep yours, OK?"
But what if we knew where they were, so somebody can extract those before unlocking the BL...? And then we can restore them?
If they're on the kernel, is there no way to remake the stock kernel with DRM keys??
Track id also does not work
Who bothers we can download it from Google play again
If drm keys are on kernel.. Can a copy of stock kernel be made to preserve those drm keys?
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Not on kernel I think...
Because update also contains a new kernel...
One more thing, Search option in geotag of album app is also not working...
Join us here with your Xperia P
http://www.facebook.com/groups/SonyXP/
But an official Sony update wouldn't delete official Sony data! So what if DRM keys are in BOTH kernels?
Also, how can we make a copy of the kernel? I'd do it, if I only knew how...
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Track id also does not work
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It's working for me normally like with locked bootloader...
someone755 said:
But an official Sony update wouldn't delete official Sony data! So what if DRM keys are in BOTH kernels?
Also, how can we make a copy of the kernel? I'd do it, if I only knew how...
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It isn't on the kernel. It is somewhere else.
Rodger_Rulez said:
It's working for me normally like with locked bootloader...
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He meant with unlocked bootloader. Still, strange, works for me even unlocked.
"What really matters in this world, anyway?"
TrackID works even with unlocked BL, what is not working since drm keys are gone it's the "download music info" that is another thing!
Its already gone so no use!
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TrackID works fine. but the problem is the Download music info, does any one know how to fix this?
Odp: [Q] relocking sony xperia s without loosing DRM codes
raizuko said:
TrackID works fine. but the problem is the Download music info, does any one know how to fix this?
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Look on date of last post and think... Go to S section and ask there.
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i wonder, ICS is leaked, there is a root for ICS, or we can unlock bootloader. all the ways are open for ROMs. why there isn't any?
sarsarhos said:
i wonder, ICS is leaked, there is a root for ICS, or we can unlock bootloader. all the ways are open for ROMs. why there isn't any?
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Check dynamic rom!
GEKTHEBOSS said:
Check dynamic rom!
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it's useless.
Yes, there are no stable ROMs right now
Who know why there are no ROMs, maybe developer motivation, Sony support, few developers...
The best way to help the developers it's test and test their ROMs, the support will improve the ROMs obviously
I cant test it because I need the phone and I cant wipe it each time or change the ROMs
Even some developers does not have the phone to test it directly
So dont expect much from a new ROM... just test...
thank you. i hope its just moral. unlocking bootloader is problem for us because there isnt any good rom / there isnt any good rom because people worry about unlocking bootloader for warranty. but for example there is so many good roms for neo v or ray etc.
sarsarhos said:
thank you. i hope its just moral. unlocking bootloader is problem for us because there isnt any good rom / there isnt any good rom because people worry about unlocking bootloader for warranty. but for example there is so many good roms for neo v or ray etc.
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Bootloader can be relocked
and I think that porting is possible from the 2011 phones to the xpu
nathan96 said:
Bootloader can be relocked
and I think that porting is possible from the 2011 phones to the xpu
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i don't think relocking the bootloader can supoort warranty. because we give our imei numbers sony for unlocking bootloaders. they can see. but some of 2011 xperias can be unlocked from hardware like neo v.
The rom I'm waiting for is cm9 or aokp... Seriously when!?!?
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So for the ones of us who did not backup TA partition we lost our drm keys which takes away the x reality engine bravia engine etc enhancement you really notice this when you play videos on netfix etc. Now what i want to know is there anyway in the world we can get our drm keys back i mean anything is possible nothing is impossible?
Update i just used some recovery tools and found the backup i did a while ago which got deleted from my recyle bin i have now managed to recover it phew when i go back to stock i can now have my drm keys back.
You should probably upload it to a couple of cloud services. Dropbox and Drive maybe?
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jutley said:
So for the ones of us who did not backup TA partition we lost our drm keys which takes away the x reality engine bravia engine etc enhancement you really notice this when you play videos on netfix etc. Now what i want to know is there anyway in the world we can get our drm keys back i mean anything is possible nothing is impossible?
Update i just used some recovery tools and found the backup i did a while ago which got deleted from my recyle bin i have now managed to recover it phew when i go back to stock i can now have my drm keys back.
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You could always look at the mod that hamdogg posted in the mod section for restoring the barvia2 engine
jutley said:
So for the ones of us who did not backup TA partition we lost our drm keys which takes away the x reality engine bravia engine etc enhancement you really notice this when you play videos on netfix etc. Now what i want to know is there anyway in the world we can get our drm keys back i mean anything is possible nothing is impossible?
Update i just used some recovery tools and found the backup i did a while ago which got deleted from my recyle bin i have now managed to recover it phew when i go back to stock i can now have my drm keys back.
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My first Ultra i backed up the TA.
My second Ultra i didn't. Just didn't really care. x-reality is a crock. I do however like the bravia2 engine that I've adapted. Like blue said.
It still works on my second Ultra. So there's that.
hamdogg said:
My first Ultra i backed up the TA.
My second Ultra i didn't. Just didn't really care. x-reality is a crock. I do however like the bravia2 engine that I've adapted. Like blue said.
It still works on my second Ultra. So there's that.
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Ok can we apply the Bravia engine to GPE rom.
jutley said:
Ok can we apply the Bravia engine to GPE rom.
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No it has to have a Sony base
hamdogg said:
No it has to have a Sony base
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I thought GPE rom advertised that they have Xreality in the settings?
You telling me xreality is not working on GPE factory phone?
kingrichards said:
I thought GPE rom advertised that they have Xreality in the settings?
You telling me xreality is not working on GPE factory phone?
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well... x-reality is just a series of colour filters or settings. You could get the same effect by doing it manually.
and if sony and their GPe ROM have it, then I'm sure its legit. But at the time it was only for a pure sony ROM
hamdogg said:
well... x-reality is just a series of colour filters or settings. You could get the same effect by doing it manually.
and if sony and their GPe ROM have it, then I'm sure its legit. But at the time it was only for a pure sony ROM
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How would you do it manually?
GPE ROM have xreality features.. Just don't know how legit it is directly from Google vs flashing GPE rom?
kingrichards said:
I thought GPE rom advertised that they have Xreality in the settings?
You telling me xreality is not working on GPE factory phone?
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Yes, the GPe has X-Reality and Sony's sound enhancements. The issue with X-Reality on it is that it's simply impossible for us to use it. With us, I mean the ones who doesn't have an original GPe Ultra, but have flashed the GPe ROM. We need an unlocked bootloader to flash the ROM, and you may know that an unlocked bootloader means no TA partition with the DRM keys, meaning no functioning X-Reality.
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does Unlocking bootloader remove DRM for both x-Reality and Bravia ?
VipiN'n'DroiD said:
does Unlocking bootloader remove DRM for both x-Reality and Bravia ?
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x-reality replaces the bravia engine I believe, so in a roundabout way yes
does that mean that I've lost DRM for both x-Reality and Bravia when unlocking bootloader .. coz I didn't backup DRM using BackupTA ??
VipiN'n'DroiD said:
does that mean that I've lost DRM for both x-Reality and Bravia when unlocking bootloader .. coz I didn't backup DRM using BackupTA ??
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yep.. but dont worry. I have two ultra's. One with a backed up TA partition the other one i didn't care and just unlocked it. Nothing lost! all that sony xreality stuff was a **cough**...
I unlocked bootloader without backup TA partition can i get x-reality engine back .please help me
mrx_vip said:
I unlocked bootloader without backup TA partition can i get x-reality engine back .please help me
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No. It's gone.
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