I know the hardware should be capable, and I feel like I'd be happy with it if it didn't have **** drivers, but what can I do about that?
I had a Galaxy S3 on Sprint, replaced it with an LG Optimus G. Had to get off Sprint's network so grabbed a pair of these on AT&T. I wasn't interested in waiting on the One.
I bought it because I needed a phone and it felt good in my hand. I was never sure who's hands they designed the S3 for... but that's neither here nor there... I never imagined the fastest Tegra3 would be slow, or that the audio would be so horrible.
Do I just have bad phones? We have two phones, and the slowness is not limited to mine.
All audio (bluetooth or 3.5mm, streaming or local file, beats on or off) suffers from random cutting out and skips.
The stuttering transitions and the split second delay between pushing a button and something happening is mostly noticeable when done beside my S3 or Optimus G; otherwise it just feels generally slow.
I only get cutting out/skips with audio when i'm running slacker radio and the screen is active. If the screen is asleep, I have no sound quality issues with slacker. With regular MP3s, I have zero audio quality issues other than A2DP which is a simple bitpool setting that will get fixed by ROMs, but AUX connection sounds fantastic.
I don't see any of the slow or stuttering issues you are describing.
I'm gonna update to the latest stock image, and play with mp3 off flash. I've had issues with Spotify, Pandora, and subsonic. Come to think of it, I rarely listen with my screen off; I'm always at my desk at work and leave it on for the cover art and controls.
What ROM do you use?
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I only get cutting out/skips with audio when i'm running slacker radio and the screen is active. If the screen is asleep, I have no sound quality issues with slacker. With regular MP3s, I have zero audio quality issues other than A2DP which is a simple bitpool setting that will get fixed by ROMs, but AUX connection sounds fantastic.
I don't see any of the slow or stuttering issues you are describing.
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I have used stock and elegancia. Both had the same music/sound issues. I think it is more of an app issue somehow.
I had the HOX before coming to the HOX+ i had some of these in playing music, but after a service it was fine. I think you have a bad phone. As far as the delay/stuttering it should be because of a rouge app which is slowing down the phone.
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Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
Hi All,
When I use headphones (tried 3 different pairs) whenever I listen to any audio output, whether from a game, mp3s, radio, system noises, there's always a lot of static and/or hiss. It's in the background and not too terrible but I'm thinking there's something wrong with the hardware in my Photon. I tried taking out the battery and it made no difference.
Anyone else have this issue? Should I return it? Any advice?
Thanks!
I use Moto bluetooth headset to listen and don't have any additional noise over what would normally be there (say, compared to what it sounded like on my EVO).
Do you get this background noise through the phone speaker as well or just the headset? Might be something with the audio plug on the phone.
If you have tried other headsets and the phone speaker is either doing it or not, wouldn't hurt to take it in to a Sprint store and have them check it out.
Thanks CCallahan. I exchanged it and the new one doesn't do that so I guess it was just a fluke.
I have the same thing going on, with headphones only. Guess it's just the luck of the draw
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I would exchange it. I guess it is the luck of the draw. My new photon has been less buggy overall - not just with this issue. The other one wasn't terrible but there were a lot more fcs and hard crashes. Could be just coincidence but with the audio jack issue too seems like there just might be bad ones out there.
Have any of you had a problem where Pandora plays sound overly-distorted? I used to think it was just because the headphone amplifier sucked bad, and couldn't drive my QC-1s, which is likely, but it even happens when plugged into my AUX on my vehicle's headunit. It's really bad on certain bass notes. It's almost as if Pandora is applying an EQ of sorts. I'm currently running Deck's v1.0 w/ Beats Audio flashed. I don't know how to control Beats Audio other than by enabling/disabling it in the Music Player. I also have not heard any audible difference when doings so.
When I had my Evo 4G, I always had a nice, loud, clean signal going to the same AUX port in my car. I would get crisp highs and tight bass--Pandora sounded as close to CD quality as you could get via a streaming app. The Music Player sounds a bit better, but still nothing like the Evo 4G. Have you guys noticed anything like this for the Evo 3Ds y'all own, and also have you seen a difference from one ROM to the next? I am almost pondering buying an MP3 player so I won't have to deal with this.
Thanks!
-Steven
Does it sound like that when you play mp3s? Our just Pandora? either way, aux sucks.
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Maybe try and put pandora on the high quality mode. Not sure if it already is or not, but i remember a long time ago this happened to me, and i am pretty sure that fixed it.
Same problem here. Talked to a car and audio guy. We decided the car and engine were actually interfering with Pandora and the signal through aux. Try twisting the aux up while playing. It makes it harder to be interfered
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It's not the phone or AUX... well I mean the quality does SUCK compared to the Evo 4G even when playing MP3, but this is different. Pandora is playing distorted audio at any volume... It's so painful to hear, because I know it's destroying my speakers. Not all songs do it, either. I hope it is fixed. I am a Pandora One user, and I use HQ mode.
dude are you getting distortion from the phone's speakers also?? if so I think u have the same problem I have. Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268298
I'm not sure it's the same thing... this seems more like a Pandora issue itself. I guess I should try some other audio programs. The stock music player sounds fine.
It is indeed a problem with pandora itself.
I have a galaxy s2 and I am having the same exact problem. Bass heavy songs sound distorted even at low volume. Kick drums make your speakers or headphones sound as if theyre
blown.
Mp3's and any other streaming app such as tune in sound perfectly fine.
Pandora needs to address this issue asap.
On some songs Pandora gives some chirps at certain high frequencies. Doesn't happen with mp3 files.
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It's a problem with at least the Evo series and Pandora. I've read it's the way Android handles the codec somewhere but it's usually fixed by going into settings, enabling "High Quality" (I think it's a radio button) then restarting pandora.
Usually I hear pops, clicks and occasional other noise. Bumped it to HQ and never had a problem. I've read it affects all android phones but I don't remember this issue on my old Nexus S or Epic 4G. Just on my HTC and my girl's Evo Shift.
never heard of this issue. weird.
I have tried setting it to HQ.... Doesn't work
Not an android device.... But similiar issue for tivo owners?
http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/forums/displaypost?postID=10481248
Im sorry but it seems like this is a real issue and should be fixed.
High or low quality, no settings should make the bass distort like that. Especially at low volume.
Ive tried re-flashing different roms, uninstalling/installing pandora, every audio setting there is and any dsp audio app around. Nothing worked.
so i just got my htc rezound like 2 days ago and so far its wonderful (coming from a droid razr). the only stipulation im having is streaming audio via bluetooth to my car's stereo system (ford fusion with sync system). it sounds really crappy using the standard player htc gives you, but if you switch to amazon mp3's player it sounds good except for certain pitches and frequencies sound like crap. it almost sounds like crackling but not quite. gives it good bass back tho. so is there a way to fix this? i did unlock my phone like 4 hrs after getting it from the fedex guy. is there anything i can do to it go improve on the audio quality or is this gonna be a "wait for ICS and see" kinda deal?
Try PowerAmp or install a rom with DSP so you can tweak the audio settings.
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Try PowerAmp or install a rom with DSP so you can tweak the audio settings.
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k will give it a shot later tonight when i leave for work. i honestly dont think it has anything to do with the eq but i'll try it. i think its something with the bluetooth radio thats built in....maybe its just a crappy design idk.
any other ideas in the mean time? or anyone else having the same issue?
Never heard of this problem with differences between players.
Stream all day with my phone and only problems are with ICS not GB.
I have a Ford Focus (with sync) and mine sounds pretty good, but not as good as when I had full time beats on my EVO3D. They only thing I do is turn the volume up on the phone while its playing through the speakers. I do this but using the volume rocker on the side during playback. Its not as good as a CD but not too bad either. Tried to get the guy that fixed it on the 3D to look at the Rezound but he never responded to my PM. I have played with DSP Manager and you can get some improvement. Also other EQs exist in the market that can improve the quality.
<3 ford focus, are you saying it just lacks an equalizer's touch or does it crackle? =o
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I use the MotoROKR T505 for my car. Bluetooth stereo music over the car speakers is never a problem, regardless of using stock player, meridian, or poweramp.
Zone is right. Turn the volume all the way up. It took me awhile to figure this out. I think its radio interference that you're hearing.
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well i tried poweramp from the market and it made some improvement...but still not as crisp as i'd like. it seems like with some of the higher frequencies over bluetooth it kind of mashes them together sort of. idk but coming from a droid razr i can definitely tell a difference. that phone was amazing when it came to audio quality over bluetooth. for now i guess i'll try to rig up the usb cord so my sync system can read the files from my phone or either buy a cheep aux input cord for my ford....until ICS is released....hopefully they made some type of improvement.
edit: i always have the volume maxed out via the rocker on the side....learned that day 1 of having an ipod long ago lol. the droid razr definitely puts out cd quality audio over bluetooth and i was kind of expecting this phone to do the same or better, not sub-par performance.
I wonder if that is the razr's 4.0 bluetooth that provided so
Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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What head unit? I have the non navigation unit in mine. Wondering if it'll sound the same.
No issues streaming over to my car, Mazda 3 here. Not sure what to tell you as it's just a digital stream of data between your phone and car. All of the unpackaging is done on the car's side of things. The phone is using the newer BT 5 which allows it to put out a lot more data, so I don't see that being a problem. Check your streaming quality settings in Google Music and if that's set as high as it can go, check to see if maybe your car's system needs an update.
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What head unit? I have the non navigation unit in mine. Wondering if it'll sound the same.
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I have the non navigation unit too.
I have problems with podcasts, but music comes through beautifully.
Are you streaming files from the phone or streaming from your own music or listening to streaming stations? If streaming, you can try adjusting the quality settings in google play music.
No issues here with my Hyundai Sonata w/ Infinity headunit. I use standard BT (44 KHz) and Android Auto (48 KHz) and actually find the quality to be improved from my past 3 phones (V20, S8+, Note8).
I get popping and crackling streaming to isimple connect.
Music and podcasts were fine for me. Call were terrible. Lots of static on calls. I has this issue with two V30s. I had to return the phone and go with the GS8+.
coming from my moto pure, which was terrible on the bluetooth with my 2013 tacoma (HU is from a 2015 Tacoma) i had decent sound but it would drop out all the time, this phone is a dramatic improvement. there are more features in play, and the sound quality is as good as can be expected for streaming audio on a stock unit and speakers.
I was just coming in to say the same. Even from my V20, going through a cheap walmart BT - FM Transmitter, the sound is richer on the V30 than it was before, and less static between the devices.
Check your quality settings in Google
steveo676 said:
Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Have you tried changing the quality on mobile network settings in Google Play Music? Could be a case the source is low quality causing your distortion.
I've tried changing the quality and there's no difference.
I'm currently struggling with static over Bluetooth in my WRX. This morning I actually did a factory reset on the stereo. I couldn't tell as I was kinda in a hurry to test it too much. I will find out here in about 1.5hrs though.
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I'm currently struggling with static over Bluetooth in my WRX. This morning I actually did a factory reset on the stereo. I couldn't tell as I was kinda in a hurry to test it too much. I will find out here in about 1.5hrs though.
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Do you have Android Auto as an option? I've found BT streaming to be more stable when I use AA in my car. It streams at 48Hz instead of 44Hz.
That being said, I don't have quality issues either way. Just the occasional blip in streaming that lasts less than a second.
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Do you have Android Auto as an option? I've found BT streaming to be more stable when I use AA in my car. It streams at 48Hz instead of 44Hz.
That being said, I don't have quality issues either way. Just the occasional blip in streaming that lasts less than a second.
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I don't have that option unfortunately. I wish I did though. What I've tried so far, just creates the same issue. No way around it as of yet.
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I don't have that option unfortunately. I wish I did though. What I've tried so far, just creates the same issue. No way around it as of yet.
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I will test tomorrow in my car where I stream over my audio system using a Audioengine B1. So far I tested BT today using my BT headphones and they definitely sound a little different. I think they sound cleaner and very good though. This is compared to my Moto X Pure 2015, which seemed to sound very good also. The overall volume was a little lower than my previous phone but with the vol all the way up it was perfect for me to enjoy and overcome the sound of my lawnmower while cutting the lawn today
So no issues so far.
no problem at all on my jeep with Uconnect
Tested today in my car using my Audioengine B1 (stereo) and car BT (cell), sounds awesome!!
Plus found out since its a metal back plate it sticks to the dash magnet thingy I have vs using the metal plate inside of a case!!
SO far loving this phone.
Nothing useful to add at the moment beyond noting that my 2017 Subaru (BRZ) has the same issue. It appears it may be something unique to the pairing of a Subaru HU and the V30, or possibly just LG. My Sony Z5 works just fine with the stock HU, and the V30 works fine with a very cheap 1DIN HU I have around... I've reached out to Subaru but don't expect anything but finger pointing.
I'll instead likely be changing the HU to something that does Android Auto or even mirror-link... if only it were easy to make any sense of the Android HU offerings! I admit I'd sort-of like to keep the reverse camera and the steering wheel controls. I guess it wasn't worth saving the $800 on the 2017 after all (with 2018 now available for order with a price increase...) - then again, I may like whatever I install better.
I just wanted to add what I found since seems a lot of issues are from scoobies. I have an 2011 Forester XT stock non-nav HU. HU will never auto connect like it did with my HTC 10. But I found out that if I connect it through the HU works like a charm everytime. Before I was going to BT setting on the LGV30 and connecting it that way. And sometimes it would connect and if it did was really spotty, sound would stutter all the time. Drive me nuts. Now with connecting first through the HU works like a charm all the time, and just sometimes their is stutter. For my HU i've attached a pic of where the setting would be. and for me would be to click on "select audio player" and the click V30 and all is heaven.
Hope that helps some fellow scoobies.