low internal memory question!? - Galaxy Ace S5830i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi people, I rooted my girlfriends galaxy ace & put link2sd on it to transfer as many apps as possible to free up internal memory which left her with about 45mb to play with & 2gb external sd space, I now have a problem, last night I made the mistake of downloading an official update for it & it failed instalation because the phones rooted (obviously :crying which I stupidly forgot! The problem I now have is that the failed update @ 30.1mb is hogging up the memory again with the usual "low on internal space" error residing in status bar! I managed to delete a few unneeded apps & now have about 21mb space & no warning but the failed update is still there somewhere on the internal memory & I want to find & delete it if I can using root explorer! Can someone give me its location where it's residing to delete it, or can I only use manage applications in settings to do this & delete the data in software updates? & will that give me back the space it took!?
TIA!

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Try clearing the cache of the programs. U can use "Apps2sd" or "Titanium Backup" to clear cache and move some of the apps to sd card to free space.
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ChelebiTech said:
Try clearing the cache of the programs. U can use "Apps2sd" or "Titanium Backup" to clear cache and move some of the apps to sd card to free space.
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I've moved most apps to sd using link2sd as previously stated in my first post, & I've cleared the cache of most programs also
The problem lies with the update that I downloaded which failed to install because of the device being rooted, it's residing in internal memory still taking up 30.1mb of space! I just need to delete it somehow but don't know where to look for it!?

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The problem lies with the update that I downloaded which failed to install because of the device being rooted, it's residing in internal memory still taking up 30.1mb of space! I just need to delete it somehow but don't know where to look for it!?
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I can update apps even after rooting.
And I think everyone here can.
Gaining root access to the phone won't affect ur app update.
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amogh420 said:
I can update apps even after rooting.
And I think everyone here can.
Gaining root access to the phone won't affect ur app update.
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he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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srt99 said:
he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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Thanks for making that point yep the free internal memory that is left is around 28mb now, but only because I uninstalled some more apps after the update failed! I've cleared caches & dalvik cache but if I were to find & delete the failed update, I'd gain another 30mb (totalling 60mb free space!)
I think I'll just unroot it, install the ota update then root it again if I can't find where it's residing & delete it! I'm not too keen on using odiin although I have in the past on my S2 with no problems, I prefer ota or mobile odin (mobile odin doesn't support the galaxy ace unfortunately!) or cwm recovery firmware instalations!
Thanks for your reply! :good:

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srt99 said:
he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
Sent from my GT-S5830i using xda app-developers app
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Ohh
I thought he meant the update of Link2SD failed. Lol.
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Cant find failed update
amogh420 said:
Ohh
I thought he meant the update of Link2SD failed. Lol.
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Hi
I have same problem firmware update failed and I had unrooted my phone before I started update I have now lost 50mb (app) of internal storage.
You make a good point CrackDaddy "where does firmware updates reside after downloading" I have used Link2sd and Titanium to try and find this failed download but just can't find it, knowing the firmware file name or the format that it may be would help cos I have probably seen it and did not realise.
I hope some member can help us.

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There is no firmware file, the firmware is like a custom rom. So there are multiple files which atayed in /system after the failed download (correct me if I'm wrong). The solution is to flash a firmware through Odin.
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Android-fany said:
There is no firmware file, the firmware is like a custom rom. So there are multiple files which atayed in /system after the failed download (correct me if I'm wrong). The solution is to flash a firmware through Odin.
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Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??

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soundacer said:
Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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it is fine if u flash fw through odin on a rooted phone..
so dont worry..just flash it :thumbup:
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soundacer said:
Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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Yes, does installing new firmware overwrite or add to the system file storage space problem
After all, I'm not as concerned about having new firmware custom or official on the phone, as I am about gaining the space back, ( it's not my phone ) so potentiality all I have to do is partition the sd card to fix the space problem, although the failed update files wiould still remain in the system!

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Ok so I am in the exactly the same boat; rooted my GT-S5830i on stock rom and stupidly yesterday I downloaded a 30.14mb update which failed after installing 25% of it and now my internal memory is 30mb less!!! =( (if only I had known before hand you can't update a rooted phone!!)
Researching told me that OTA updates where stored in the cache so I tried wiping the cache in recovery and no joy. Using my ES File Explorer app the following folders show...
/data/cache/ is empty!
/cache/lost+found/ is empty!
/cache/recovery/ has a file called "last_log" which is only 7.23KB not 30mb! =(
So it would seem the failed update installed and as said above is in the system folders, so I guess unless I was told every single file/folder name and went and deleted them all all,. the only other way to get back the 30mb of internal memory would be to flash my phone back to the stock rom correct?
I really didn't want to muck about with flashing, I'm a total noob and tbh it scares me in case I muck it up and also then there is warranty issues, doesn't flashing make the bootload value increase each time, thus voiding your warranty if the value is not at the stock value of 0?! I decided to root my phone with the understanding that if I did need to do a warranty claim I could reload the bloatware apps, factory reset the phone and then unroot it thus putting it back to stock mode and more importantly the bootload value will remain the same as the phone has not been flashed!
So I am put off tbh if the only way for me to get my 30mb of internal space back is to flash it with the stock rom! =(
Does anyone know where the 30mb of files are and what they are called? Maybe it is just one file and not a lot because I understand now that when you do an OTA update it downloads the update but before installing checks the system's files and folders to check every is 100% stock and that the stock apps are there before installing the update. Well surely because this check failed on my phone then it didn't install the update and with any luck the 30mb download is still in one file?!
lol sorry to go on, this has really annoyed me, especially the fact that since it has happened yesterday I have literally spent about 7 hours on and off researching this on the net etc! =(
Thanks for your help,
James =)

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lcrjames said:
Ok so I am in the exactly the same boat; rooted my GT-S5830i on stock rom and stupidly yesterday I downloaded a 30.14mb update which failed after installing 25% of it and now my internal memory is 30mb less!!! =( (if only I had known before hand you can't update a rooted phone!!)
Researching told me that OTA updates where stored in the cache so I tried wiping the cache in recovery and no joy. Using my ES File Explorer app the following folders show...
/data/cache/ is empty!
/cache/lost+found/ is empty!
/cache/recovery/ has a file called "last_log" which is only 7.23KB not 30mb! =(
So it would seem the failed update installed and as said above is in the system folders, so I guess unless I was told every single file/folder name and went and deleted them all all,. the only other way to get back the 30mb of internal memory would be to flash my phone back to the stock rom correct?
I really didn't want to muck about with flashing, I'm a total noob and tbh it scares me in case I muck it up and also then there is warranty issues, doesn't flashing make the bootload value increase each time, thus voiding your warranty if the value is not at the stock value of 0?! I decided to root my phone with the understanding that if I did need to do a warranty claim I could reload the bloatware apps, factory reset the phone and then unroot it thus putting it back to stock mode and more importantly the bootload value will remain the same as the phone has not been flashed!
So I am put off tbh if the only way for me to get my 30mb of internal space back is to flash it with the stock rom! =(
Does anyone know where the 30mb of files are and what they are called? Maybe it is just one file and not a lot because I understand now that when you do an OTA update it downloads the update but before installing checks the system's files and folders to check every is 100% stock and that the stock apps are there before installing the update. Well surely because this check failed on my phone then it didn't install the update and with any luck the 30mb download is still in one file?!
lol sorry to go on, this has really annoyed me, especially the fact that since it has happened yesterday I have literally spent about 7 hours on and off researching this on the net etc! =(
Thanks for your help,
James =)
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Firstly if you flash through CWM recovery & not odin your flash/binary count remains at 0, & you can easily reset the binary counter with a single click anyway if you ever needed your warranty, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647703
Secondly as Android-fany has stated in his post, a failed update resides in the /system as multiple files & not a single file, so unless you flash either an official or custom rom/firmware, then you have no other options available, other than partitioning your sd card to make more space on internal memory!
& thirdly flashing roms/firmware REALLY isn't that difficult, look in the dev section & read the tutorials to the letter, then you should have no worries! (just remember to flash the CORRECT rom/firmware) official or custom for your particular device/model!)

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CrackDaddy said:
Firstly if you flash through CWM recovery & not odin your flash/binary count remains at 0, & you can easily reset the binary counter with a single click anyway if you ever needed your warranty, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647703
Secondly as Android-fany has stated in his post, a failed update resides in the /system as multiple files & not a single file, so unless you flash either an official or custom rom/firmware, then you have no other options available, other than partitioning your sd card to make more space on internal memory!
& thirdly flashing roms/firmware REALLY isn't that difficult, look in the dev section & read the tutorials to the letter, then you should have no worries! (just remember to flash the CORRECT rom/firmware) official or custom for your particular device/model!)
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I did a factory reset and all is good after reinstalling all my downloaded apps and putting all my settings/texts/contacts etc back on the phone, I now have 42mb more internal memory, since the failed OTA update =)

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lcrjames said:
I did a factory reset and all is good after reinstalling all my downloaded apps and putting all my settings/texts/contacts etc back on the phone, I now have 42mb more internal memory, since the failed OTA update =)
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If you did a factory reset then you should have rooted & partitioned your sd card before you put everything back on mate
as you're only gonna be in the same predicament sometime soon, either through apps, msg's, media or yet another failed update taking your space!
Unfortunately the internal memory on the galaxy ace sucks period!
You can't have many apps on it then, or anything else for that matter!

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CrackDaddy said:
If you did a factory reset then you should have rooted & partitioned your sd card before you put everything back on mate
as you're only gonna be in the same predicament sometime soon, either through apps, msg's, media or yet another failed update taking your space!
Unfortunately the internal memory on the galaxy ace sucks period!
You can't have many apps on it then, or anything else for that matter!
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Yeah I need to get round to partitioning my 16gb SD card (10gb is free) so all my apps are installed on that, don't suppose you know any simple guides? At the mo I am still forcing apps to install the majority part of it on the sd card from this guide I used when I first got my phone before I rooted.... http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root.html
I must admit it is very annoying that my apps positions change from what I want every time I turn my mob on and off or connect it to the PC with a cable (ie. every time it mounts and unmounts the SD card!)
Yea the galaxy ace internal memory sucks, but mine is a hell of a lot better than stock which was only about 85mb free out of the box which is quickly taken up by user apps/data etc, but I have 115mb free at the mo and I have about 25 user apps, which is fine for my use, One day I will partion my SD card though, I hope lol.

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lcrjames said:
Yeah I need to get round to partitioning my 16gb SD card (10gb is free) so all my apps are installed on that, don't suppose you know any simple guides? At the mo I am still forcing apps to install the majority part of it on the sd card from this guide I used when I first got my phone before I rooted.... http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root.html
I must admit it is very annoying that my apps positions change from what I want every time I turn my mob on and off or connect it to the PC with a cable (ie. every time it mounts and unmounts the SD card!)
Yea the galaxy ace internal memory sucks, but mine is a hell of a lot better than stock which was only about 85mb free out of the box which is quickly taken up by user apps/data etc, but I have 115mb free at the mo and I have about 25 user apps, which is fine for my use, One day I will partion my SD card though, I hope lol.
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I thaught you said you were noob & too scared to do anything with your phone?, lol! If you can follow that tutorial for using sdk tools & putting commands into cm prompt, then installing CWM zip on your sd card with root/unroot zip then rootiiing & partitioning & using Link2sd to put your apps on your sd card & never running out of space should be a doddle!
there's tons of guides, just use google, I'm sure even you can do that
Here: http://mnabil95.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-increase-internal-memory-galaxy.html

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CrackDaddy said:
I thaught you said you were noob & too scared to do anything with your phone?, lol! If you can follow that tutorial for using sdk tools & putting commands into cm prompt, then installing CWM zip on your sd card with root/unroot zip then rootiiing & partitioning & using Link2sd to put your apps on your sd card & never running out of space should be a doddle!
there's tons of guides, just use google, I'm sure even you can do that
Here: http://mnabil95.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-increase-internal-memory-galaxy.html
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Hi All, not been on here for a while to give update to my failed FW update cos was on holiday.
Anyway I have done nothing to my phone cos I was away and obviously been getting reminder regards FW update from Samsung but just keep postponing it because of problem.
I have read all the postings here since (some interesting and good points) but just a little bit confused because some members say use CWM and others say use Odin mmm, what is the best to use and do you require to have phone unrooted for both ??
Also where would I get this new FW update from because the last time I was on Sammobile (2wks ago) and I looked again when I got back from holiday it was not there.
Because I am a nooby I am just a little apprehensive lol
Just another point / if the binary counter on a phone was not at "0" would this cause new FW to fail when trying to install ??