LG Bootloop? Only when plugged in? / Battery pull. Pics inside. - AT&T LG Optimus G

I recently flashed Mysteryemotionz v4.1 kernel and about an hour through bench-marking I came back to find my phone rebooting. I assumed it overheated or bugged out during testing and didn't think much of it until it went through the LG logo 3 times.
I noticed it would not turn on at all without the USB plugged in, my first instinct was that the battery became disconnected somehow. I could get to the fast boot and download screens, but any attempt to vol down into CWM was met with failure, and a fresh LG screen over again.
Any combination of buttons that included pressing power would result in the notification LED eventually flashing, approx 10 times. Sometimes slowly for 10x then slightly faster.
It is worth noting the phone would not charge while doing this, but the battery was full prior.
I tried leaving it unplugged overnight, same problem in the morning. Tried leaving it looping all day while at work, no dice. Finally figured I would attempt to see what was with the battery itself. I suppose if you were very patient, you could wait until your battery discharged completely, thus performing a "soft" battery pull, but this will take 4+ weeks at a full charge.
As the other battery pull thread is Sprint specific, here is a refresh for AT&T's LG E970.
I HIGHLY recommend you take a look at nericus' original thread in the Sprint LG Optimus G forum as this is only supplementary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108154
The tools I used: {{Picture 0}}View attachment 1931288
T-6 Torx bit - Your mileage may vary, 4's and 5's may also work, start big and do not strip your screws.
P00 Phillips screwdriver to remove the battery plate / connector.
Fingernails
Sewing needle or similar
Optional:
Business Cards (the phone has a tendency to re-engage the plastic clips when removing the back, these were used as shims to place in between the case and the phone while working the other sides)
Magnet (not only to hold the screws but you can magnetize your screwdriver / bits which will help when removing and inserting)
Also, for a little preview of what to expect, user Xiutehcuhtli has made a YouTube video, this is also Sprint specific but a good visual reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3DPxzH3l2c
One of the main differences is that your power and volume buttons will NOT fall out, so you won't need to tape them in place.
Be sure to clear them with the back cover when re-installing it.
Also, you will notice that I did not include a spudger as you most likely will not need it.
Our phone is somewhat "inside out" compared to the original article, our back plate is very shallow and our phone is the cradle compared to the Sprint version. This also means there is different risk areas, and pry methods.
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Once you have removed the Torx screws, my initial plan of attack was through the SD Card / SIM card cover. You will notice there is a hairline slit toward the volume buttons on the bottom side of the phone, you can very easily trace this with your fingernail and pop the first tab.
Alternatively, you can spread the phone apart gently from the two surfaces revealed by opening the SD/SIM cover and then work your fingernail or a flat object gently into the gap you created.
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Patience is key, the last thing you want is to apply too much force to the back cover in any one spot, it is deceptively thin and you risk cracking the glass.
In my personal experience, once I had a few tabs good on the side I simply traced the outline of the back cover toward the top of the phone, across and back down the opposite side, saving the bottom for last. I noticed after two traces around the perimeter of the phone that the back was still very snug and in random spots, as our tabs tend to re-engage themselves much more readily than the Sprint LG.
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My solution was to place business cards under the most exposed tabs and gently work it to cover as many tabs as possible and moving along. You shouldn't need more than two, as this can cover an entire side as well as the top and bottom simultaneously, allowing you to focus on the last side. Again, patience and determination will get you there after some time.
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I cannot stress enough to come through at the shallowest angle possible when prying the battery cover with the sewing needle or similar tool.
I have highlighted the points of attack in green, be sure to get in between the two plastic pieces, and gently pry them apart.
Do not get under the entire assembly on accident or try to remove with your finger, it will pop the bottom connector off of the motherboard at the solder points leaving you in a bad situation.
After leaving the battery disconnected for about a minute, and then holding power for a good 10 seconds, I reconnected it and attempted to power on. SUCCESS!! - You can test this with the cover off, so don't make double work for yourself by closing it first.
I hope this helps for a few AT&T LG Optimus G specifics.
Attached should be a zip with a few very large originals if you need a better view.
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Christopher Hurley
SGT, USA
a.k.a [r.]GimP (R - Dot as in Red Dot Society)

YOU SIR ARE A SAINT> i had the exact problem you detailed here with my at&t LGOG, i LGNPST flashed multiple e970 stock roms, and after pulling my hair straight from the follicle, i went out and grabbed the tools, followed your method here and it worked PERFECTLY! THANK YOU GOOD SIR.

So if I pull the battery, wait a minute or two, hold the power down for ten seconds, and then reconnect and nothing happens, and plugging it into a wall charger shows a red flash, does that mean my battery is actually literally dead?
Edit: Also I would recommend following this dude's guide for his plan of attack: http://bit.ly/10VlQWK
I snapped the little bits along the power button and volume. Not a big deal, only aesthetic.. but its something that is avoidable.

Nice. Any idea what caused the boot loop?

i was struggling with ME kernel and rom for about a month. No matter how i wipe and reflash always had reboot/kernel crash/bootloop issues. ME kernel wouldnt even work with the stock rom for me. Now i just run stock rom and kernel, not many issues so far.

swashy said:
So if I pull the battery, wait a minute or two, hold the power down for ten seconds, and then reconnect and nothing happens, and plugging it into a wall charger shows a red flash, does that mean my battery is actually literally dead?
Edit: Also I would recommend following this dude's guide for his plan of attack: http://bit.ly/10VlQWK
I snapped the little bits along the power button and volume. Not a big deal, only aesthetic.. but its something that is avoidable.
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I would disregard 90% of that video because our back comes straight off, this video is not an AT&T Optimus G.
Especially the part where he is prying by the screen. Someone is going to take that literally and destroy their stuff lol.
Anyway. My guess for your question is that you might have ripped the connector off of the board. Check continuity of those pins in the connector and make sure they didn't come off.
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WATER ON MY XDA

I dropped my xda in water!!!!!....HELP!!!! . I've been drying it out for a week.....Made sure it's been switched off, Tried charging it yesterday, yellow charging light came on while charging, but light switches off immediately I remove it from the cradle......H-E-L-P
The yellow light always turn off when you remove it from the cradle, because it is not charging anymore.
Or do you mean, the XDA turn off once you remove it from the charger.
water on my XDA
The yellow light goes off immediately I remove it from the cradle. I charged it for about 2 hours and it still doesn't respond to the power button
Can you switch it on while plugged into the cradle ?
water on my XDA
Tried switching it on , it didn't work
Wait
Wait, happends the same to me and after 20-30 days i put the pda to charge, do a hard reset and voila.
To be logical...
Did you try to do a hard reset?
You can also remove the bat from the xda, move the red part back in its orignal position without bat, this will definitly hardreset the xda.
Then try again with bat.
The charging curcuit has nothing to do the IC's inside, so this is not an indication for something at all.
I've done a hard reset, tried opening it from the back to access the battery but it just doesn't open after unscrewing at the back.......I am scared of forcing it open
It may be too late for you, but this is what should be done when you drop any electronics in water.
First off, IMMEDIATELY remove all power sources and batteries. If it was dropped in anything but clean fresh water, rinse it with clean fresh water. Disassemble it completely right away. Clean everything with Freon TF electronics components cleaner, or if not available, clean it with common household alcohol. Use plenty; you want to remove all traces of water. If there are parts you couldn't disassemble which may contain water, make sure you get alcohol into and back out of those areas.
Completely dry the device. If there are any places where moisture could be trapped, wait a few days. Otherwise, an hour or so should be fine.
As far as disassembling the XDA, there are some instructions here on the site somewhere. After removing the four screws, you will need to unsnap the case, which has tabs that lock together. I've found it easiest to start prying near the charge connectors and work my way around. Be careful, but firm, and the tabs will unsnap. Do be careful not to press any buttons while taking it apart; that's a good way to break an internal switch (ask me how I know :? ).
Thanks carlos, will try the alcohol method, wish me luck
You may have corrosion now or may have damaged components due to electrical short circuits across the water. Check for white powdery stuff on electrical parts, legs, pads, etc.
Trivia: Water is NOT electrically conductive... The impurities in water do that. 100% pure water won't conduct electricity.
I had the same accident with my XDA. I went climbing, water leaked in my backpack on my xda. XDA didn't do anything anymore. I dissassembled the XDA, let it dry for some days ... and it worked again!
Wash nothing in FREON cleaning fluids/solutions.
I'm a refrigeration designer - I know what the consumer freon-based evaporative solvent is, however it is not recommended.
You must clean the affected device with 'Isopropyl' ('isopropyl alcohol').
Take the greatest of care however; electrical items, especially semi-sealed liquid screens and digitisers may cause unexpected consequences.
My advice; remove the rear cover. You will have to force it, it is quite strongly held on. Simply unscrew all the screws and pull the rear (camera bit) slowly but firmly away from front/screen. Then submerse the electrical boards (after disconnecting the internal ribbons).
The alcohol will evaporate within a minute, leaving you with practically factory-fresh boards. Now look for corrosion (green 'rust') on the boards.
DO NOT POWER ON THE UNIT WHILE DOING THIS. YOU MUST ONLY REMOVE THE BACK COVER 30MINS after removing the battery; therefore minimising the risk of accidental shortcircuit with the backup battery supplying current to the volatile memory.
I know what the consumer freon-based evaporative solvent is, however it is not recommended.
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This is why every electronics store sells Freon TF as the recommended electronics cleaner, right...? :roll:
I didn't say Freon as in R134a/R12/R22. I have no idea what relationship Freon TF has to those, never looked into it.
I use alcohol as a last resort because, in the US at least, it is about impossible to get pure alcohol. The best you can find is something like 80% alcohol, so there is always some water. Maybe it's not an important amount, I don't know.
I finall succeded in disassembling my xda yesterday, my battery seems to be permanently attached to the back cover. I also cleaned out the electrical board with some methylated spirit (alcohol) and left it open to dry out. There was no evidence of corrosion. What do you guys think I should do next before resetting and charge it up.
You've done what you can. Make sure it is completely dry (even all the hidden spaces), then reassemble and test.
Sorry for having a go Carlos, that wasn't my intention.
Kayode, your problem can be solved easily; let the boards dry with an aid of a hair dryer (half an hour at about 30cm away).
All liquids would have evaporated, and the solvent will have dissolved and washed away electrical conductors.
Piece together and good luck.
Thanks , will do that...wish me luck
..And the moral of the story is dont use your XDA while on the toilet :shock: ....
I used a hair dryer on my xda after opening it, also did a hard reset before charging it. While charging, the phone doesn't come on when I press the power button......The amber charging light turned to green after charging for 3 hours but went off immediately I lifted it from the cradle. .........Any ideas on these issues?

I have some troubles with my Cingular 3125

1- it's reboot many times without any reason(I read one thread about it but i dont understand what to do!!)
2-sometimes 2gb microSd card loosing?(i cant open it from phone...only rebooting helps!!)On other devices card works good!
The usual reason for a 3125 rebooting is that the battery cover has gotten worn down to the point that the micro-switch under it is not fully depressed. There are multiple potential wear-down points. The hooks on either side and the tabs at the bottom can get worn or even broken. There is also a raised pad at the lower left (looking at the cover from the inside) than can get worn, as can the contact point on the switch.
Typical solution, providing the hooks and/or tabs are not totally broken off, is to put a thin piece of plastic or cardstock between the microswitch (lower right of the batter compartment) and the cover. It's a temporary solution (it tends to get continually worse), so if this fixes it, you should check eBay for a replacement cover.
That said, I had a phone that reset for another reason, which I never found. So it could be something else. I ended up buying a phone with a bad keyboard and doing a keyboard transplant from my old one.
I had the same problem and I'll tell you what I did. Open the back cover and you will see a little black switch next to the sim card/below the battery. I took a pair of needle-nose pliers and just twisted that sucker right out like a bad tooth (carefully though, you don’t want to tear up the foil on the board). Then I put a small spot of solder on the two contacts that the switch used to connect to. Never had a random reboot ever again. From then on, just make sure you take the battery out first before ever messing with the sim/sd card.
That worked for me.
Thanks
dexx40steve said:
I had the same problem and I'll tell you what I did. Open the back cover and you will see a little black switch next to the sim card/below the battery. I took a pair of needle-nose pliers and just twisted that sucker right out like a bad tooth (carefully though, you don’t want to tear up the foil on the board). Then I put a small spot of solder on the two contacts that the switch used to connect to. Never had a random reboot ever again. From then on, just make sure you take the battery out first before ever messing with the sim/sd card.
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i have the very same problem and this sounds like a perfect long term solution.. any chance of getting picture of ur mod for morons like me who need visual stimulation?
regards,

Bricked phone, need pictures off of it.

I need to get the pictures off my phone, its 100% bricked. I took it into Sprint and they couldn't fix it. I can't turn it on, can't get into recovery, absolutely nothing. Please help!
Anyone?
scottmail said:
Anyone?
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Im sorry but i think you're SOL, if the phone is in an unbootable state then there is no way of getting your pictures off it, just a friendly word of advice, either have all pictures save to the Micro SD or back it up (auto upload) using Google+/Dropbox Etc.
PhyscoAssassinx said:
Im sorry but i think you're SOL, if the phone is in an unbootable state then there is no way of getting your pictures off it, just a friendly word of advice, either have all pictures save to the Micro SD or back it up (auto upload) using Google+/Dropbox Etc.
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Pretty much my thoughts on the matter, as well. Even if you can revive the phone via a process like Jtag, you'll most likely end up losing everything that's stored on the phone. You might try shooting a PM to XDA member Zarboz regarding the issue, as he has a Jtag RiffBox and is familiar with the process.
Also, I saw your other post regarding the phone dying on you. Have you tried charging the phone for an extended period of time? I've seen some wonky cases on here where the phone died and acted as though it were bricked, only to power back up after being charged for awhile.
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I ran into the same issue with a 2 month old Evo. Try this:
Pop off the upper back cover. Get a torx screwdriver, remove the screws holding on the opaque charcoal-colored cover that goes over the camera. using the edge of something not too sharp, gently push the left side of the grey cover to the right *GENTLY* to get the clip on the right side to release. Now, using that same tool, pry the grey cover from the bottom slightly. Be careful, as there's adhesive attached to the cover and camera lens. Now, once you've removed the grey cover, you'll see a wiring harness with 3 pairs of wires in the bottom right corner. use something to remove that harness very carefully - this is going to be an actual 'battery pull'. 10 seconds later, press the harness back into place *DO NOT FORCE IT*. Now, try powering the phone on.
This fixes my phone for however long as I leave that charcoal cover off of it. As soon as I put it back on, watching logcat I believe it's triggering a faulty thermal sensor which there isn't a fix for. I was able to pull all my wife's stuff off her phone as well as factory reset it before I send it off to HTC>

[GUIDE] Fixing Micro-USB without soldering!

Hello all,
Two days ago, my phone gave up on me, at least the Micro-USB. I have had my Xperia X10i since release, which I believe was summer 2010. It made me very sad, since I no longer would have a phone and thinking back to all the ROMs, rooting and other fun stuff I used it for. It would not charge anymore.
Going in to several repair shops they told me the same. Changing the Micro-USB port that was soldered to the motherboard of the phone would be a pain, both in work and for the wallet. Everyone told me it was better to get a new one.
But I wouldn't accept that.
At writing moment, my phone is almost fully charged and I did this discovering a few tricks. That's why I want to help you to fix your phone and not lose hope just yet. First of all, my phone showed symptoms of battery draining very fast from times, charging would only do if it was connected in a specific way, etc. If you have the same or similar symptoms, follow me below;
1. First step is to find some Acetone. It is used for cleaning and I bought a bottle for around 3$. This might not be necessary, but it's worth a shot! I also used a flat screwdriver, preferably quite small. Put the screwdriver on a flat surface with paper or something underneath. Pour some Acetone on and wait for a few seconds. Now take out your battery and without battery in your phone, press the Power ON to discharge it.
You can preferably use a needle for cleaning, I just used a screwdriver since it was the thing I happened to have around. Clean inside the Micro-USB port very carefully for dust. Now put the battery in and try charging your phone again. If you still have problems, follow along...
2. Take out your charger and look at it. At the front of it you can see the metal part which is inserted into the Micro-USB. Take a small nipper and press the two sides together, forming a very slight bend on the metal. Alternatively, which I did, was to take my screwdriver previously and press the side of the metal with it, against the edge of the table or whatever (not very clever). The goal is still to form a slight bend and make the Micro-USB connector a bit tighter. Try plugging it in after doing so. If it still doesn't work, follow along...
3. Sometimes I guess it might just be the battery that might be the problem. I used mine for 3 years now, and the lifetime for an Iphone is normally around 2 years. Try changing the battery, best would be if your friend or a relative have a similar phone.
4. Last but not least, just because it doesn't start charging upon connecting to the phone doesn't mean it wont charge at all. I told you previously of my phone charging, but my charger will need to be inserted in a specific way and it needs a constant pressure on it. I have a few books stacked on it now while charging. So keep the Micro-USB clean, try bending your connector and good luck.
I just saved myself 220$.
- Synok.

s9+ survived drop, but back cover slightly open

I dropped my S9+ for the first time today, onto a hard tile floor. It's in a pretty good case, but it landed hard. The phone is completely crack free and 100% functional, there is no detectable damage except that the back cover is now slightly gapped (like 1 or 2mm) on the left side (the side with volume buttons). It will not stay closed after pressing it down. It closes when pressed, but it slowly springs back up.
Should I try applying heat to the back cover and then weighting it down?
Do I need new adhesive?
I don't recall this gap existing the last time I had the case off about a month ago. I've been very good with the battery in that I don't charge the phone when it's warm, it's rarely used past 50%, and I don't keep on a charger all day either. But could it be that the battery is now swollen and preventing the cover from staying closed?
If I need a new battery, is there a place I could still buy a genuine Samsung battery for this? All I can find are aftermarket batteries... If not, is there a good aftermarket replacement battery?
Any advice would be welcome, thanks.

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