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Hi why is there on some device (like our galaxy s3) such a big latency in wake up? Is it due to deep sleeping modes or does it take some long pre calculations or what ?
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Am I that slow to release the home button or what?
Mine is completely turned on the moment I release the button.
Deep sleep, GPU sleeping, lock screen having to be generated and background apps all cause delays. However it's not THAT long =)
It is long enough to be noticeable though.
My device need about 2 sec before it turns on the screen. Gh.rohit rom and siyah kernel.
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EDIT: Wrong forum, sorry. Please do move it to Q&A section.
I was decided on getting Galaxy Nexus (dat fast updates + looks), when I've read news about google decision to take SXS for AOSP.
Then I reconsider my decision, and choose Sony device as option (I haven't before, because of Sony, I mean SE past, and their sloppy or never done updates). It's actually 100$ cheaper, so it's advantage too.
I have doubts about its buttons. I haven't got chance to test it yet (but will do). Can you tell me if they are responsive or not ? I currently have Galaxy S, so comparison to it would be nice.
Also, how long battery lasts? Unfortunately gsmarena haven't done their test on blog so I can't compare.
Thanks in advance
Compared to the Galaxy S, the buttons on the XPERIA S are simply unresponsive... it requires some adjusting (swiping instead of pressing) but you'll get used to it.
Accoriding to a test from a Dutch website, under heavy duty it's battery will last about 12 hours. Under normal conditions 30+ is manageable: http://translate.google.nl/translate?twu=1?sl=auto&tl=en&u=tweakers.net/reviews/2592/3/welke-smartphone-doet-het-langst-met-zijn-accu-resultaten-welke-doen-het-het-best.html
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honestly. i never understood the fact that Xperia S buttons are unresponsive. I've never had issue with them. most people i know never complained.
then again, everyone press/touch stuff differently
If you need to be precise on the buttons, you want to try them out yourself.
in terms of battery it's alright when you recycle it after 2 weeks (let it die and recharge it to full etc) i usually get 10-12hrs normal daily basis (listening to music, surf, txt, etc)
I've come to the Xperia S from the One X, and yeah technical downgrade, but a like the SXS much more! Though the ui isn't as smooth, mostly thanks to Sony I think, the ui is cooler! Love Sony's launcher, I just hope it gets smoother with an update in the near future..
Now, the buttons! First, they will be a little weird and feel unresponsive, but after a little use they work fine. I have absolutely no issues there..
Battery is far far better them what I'm use to! I've been using my phone for bluetooth music and navigation today, which means Bluetooth on, GPS on and screen on for about 1 hour! And this is without charging.. The day is done and I have 17% left, just checked screen time to be 2.5 hours and up time is 16 hours.
Sidenote: [Edit] My One X would never have been able to do this..
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buttons ain't anywhere as good as those on galaxy s, i have both the phones, sliding helps but i can never hit the buttons in landscape mode..u'll get used to it and it ain't a deal breaker
Also, the black levels are a bit of a concern, i mean it's no amoled but it has the worst black levels i'hv seen. I compared it to my lcd tv, an iPhone 4 and even some old Nokia phones, xperia had the worst black levels (coz of white magic i guess). It just bumps you when you are used to seeing an amoled screen, but on the contrary, the sunlight readability is quite good
Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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buttons ain't anywhere as good as those on galaxy s, i have both the phones, sliding helps but i can never hit the buttons in landscape mode..u'll get used to it and it ain't a deal breaker
Also, the black levels are a bit of a concern, i mean it's no amoled but it has the worst black levels i'hv seen. I compared it to my lcd tv, an iPhone 4 and even some old Nokia phones, xperia had the worst black levels (coz of white magic i guess). It just bumps you when you are used to seeing an amoled screen, but on the contrary, the sunlight readability is quite good
Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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Xperia S doesn't have White Magic, and I don't have wake lock issue.
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Felimenta97 said:
Xperia S doesn't have White Magic, and I don't have wake lock issue.
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It's not white magic but it has some similar technology which gives vibrant colours and which rom are you using, i got wake locks on stock, miui and now even on xcream, i removed com.sony.wakelock and sony update app through titanium backup but still no luck
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imrock said:
It's not white magic but it has some similar technology which gives vibrant colours and which rom are you using, i got wake locks on stock, miui and now even on xcream, i removed com.sony.wakelock and sony update app through titanium backup but still no luck
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1.58 fw.
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anything extra you did to improve battery?
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imrock said:
anything extra you did to improve battery?
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Removed/deactivated unused apps, used Juice Defender Ultimate, automated almost anything I can, set brightness close to 25% (and almost 0 while on dark). Enough battery to last MY day.
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Felimenta97 said:
Removed/deactivated unused apps, used Juice Defender Ultimate, automated almost anything I can, set brightness close to 25% (and almost 0 while on dark). Enough battery to last MY day.
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You don't have wake locks anymore? Juice defender stopped a lot of stuff (edge ,Wi-Fi, whatsapp) for me and i also deleted a lot of stuff, it lasts a day according to usage but wake locks still occur, it's not like it used to be in my galaxy s in stand by
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imrock said:
You don't have wake locks anymore? Juice defender stopped a lot of stuff (edge ,Wi-Fi, whatsapp) for me and i also deleted a lot of stuff, it lasts a day according to usage but wake locks still occur, it's not like it used to be in my galaxy s in stand by
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For example. During night it loses about 7%, from 11 Pm to 6 Pm... But it's been a while I've not paid attention. About Juice Defender, you need to set it up better, so it don't do what you don't want it to do. The first days it always disabled my WiFi when I simply locked the screen. But if you do the right settings on the Advanced option, it will be really good. It claims to save from x1.70 to x2.40...
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Well try juice defender and notice my usage again, thanks
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imrock said:
Well try juice defender and notice my usage again, thanks
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I will take note of this. Gonna do a test Monday. Will remove from the charger on 11:30 PM on Sunday and run the phone with my normal usage. I will drop you a PM when the battery gets at 10%
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Thanks... Then I'm going to sony centre this week to test buttons.
I wonder if google decide to use HW buttons, or make own SW ones like in Nexus
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Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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What is wake lock? When you unlock your phone, you can use it, but screen is all black ? I did happen to me once or twice on Galaxy S, but that's all. Is this a common issue with SXS?
EDIT: This Captcha is so unreadable and annoying arghgh.
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tytanowy said:
Thanks... Then I'm going to sony centre this week to test buttons.
I wonder if google decide to use HW buttons, or make own SW ones like in Nexus
What is wake lock? When you unlock your phone, you can use it, but screen is all black ? I did happen to me once or twice on Galaxy S, but that's all. Is this a common issue with SXS?
EDIT: This Captcha is so unreadable and annoying arghgh.
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wake lock produces battery drain by unnecessarily putting the phone in "awake" mode when it should be in deep sleep. Some of my experiences with miui and the current .58 rom (it gives around 5 hrs of display time but the wake locks are still there)
I am using Galaxy note 2 and want such a application which will on/off the screen without using power button and also it should not use the proximity sensor.
The screen on/off should work only with screen touch.
Can anyone please help me for this?
I know its not ideal, but theres a toggle to turn the screen off, amd then maybe the stylus removed to turn the screen on. Otherwise I feel like that anything touching the screen would cause it to turn on in pocket, similar to when I used to have the screen turn on in my pocket when I recieved a text, and my phone was constantly being "touched" with the bloop sound
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bittoo1111 said:
I am using Galaxy note 2 and want such a application which will on/off the screen without using power button and also it should not use the proximity sensor.
The screen on/off should work only with screen touch.
Can anyone please help me for this?
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There is a feature in some kernels, Plasma for instance, that is called TouchWake. It will not do exactly what you're wanting, and there will be nothing that will because it would keep the phone from deep sleeping and drain your battery extremely fast (not to mention your phone would always be coming on in your pocket because the screen registers touch through clothes if they're thin like pockets are).
TouchWake is where when your screen times out you can set a time limit to just touch the screen to wake it back up instead of having to hit a button.
Other than TouchWake being built into certain kernels, for the use like I explained above, there is nothing remotely similar to what you're wanting. It would just drain the battery way too much because the screen will never be able to be completely powered because its always awake waiting on a touch.
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bittoo1111 said:
I am using Galaxy note 2 and want such a application which will on/off the screen without using power button and also it should not use the proximity sensor.
The screen on/off should work only with screen touch.
Can anyone please help me for this?
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This is what I use for the same thing you need.....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nd.android.surfaceaction.offscreen
It's a homescreen widget. Hope it helps
Home2shortcuts App you can customize screen off.
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shangrila500 said:
There is a feature in some kernels, Plasma for instance, that is called TouchWake. It will not do exactly what you're wanting, and there will be nothing that will because it would keep the phone from deep sleeping and drain your battery extremely fast (not to mention your phone would always be coming on in your pocket because the screen registers touch through clothes if they're thin like pockets are).
TouchWake is where when your screen times out you can set a time limit to just touch the screen to wake it back up instead of having to hit a button.
Other than TouchWake being built into certain kernels, for the use like I explained above, there is nothing remotely similar to what you're wanting. It would just drain the battery way too much because the screen will never be able to be completely powered because its always awake waiting on a touch.
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I use touchwake and have great battery life. There have been many arguments in different threads about whether using this mod causes intolerable battery drain, and all I can say is, for my phone, it has barely any effect on my battery.
bittoo1111 said:
I am using Galaxy note 2 and want such a application which will on/off the screen without using power button and also it should not use the proximity sensor.
The screen on/off should work only with screen touch.
Can anyone please help me for this?
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I personally use Screen off and Lock donate. It allows you to have a home screen widget that you can make 100% transparent if wanted along with other levels of transparency. It also let's you change color of widget. Just has quite a few options.
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Moon rom has a lock
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demass430 said:
Moon rom has a lock
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So does goodness. Both great options
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Oopsy. Not Home2shortcut, my apologies. What I meant was QCustomShortcut.
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billku said:
I use touchwake and have great battery life. There have been many arguments in different threads about whether using this mod causes intolerable battery drain, and all I can say is, for my phone, it has barely any effect on my battery.
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I don't mean to say that under regular usage it would cause significant battery drain, I use it as well and have seen little to no change. I mean if the OP used it in the way he is wanting that it most definitely would cause significant battery drain because the screen would be constantly awake awaiting input instead of going to sleep after a set amount of time.
Even then touchwake wouldn't work for the OP unless he let the screen time out so it still isn't what he is looking for.
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I don't mean to say that under regular usage it would cause significant battery drain, I use it as well and have seen little to no change. I mean if the OP used it in the way he is wanting that it most definitely would cause significant battery drain because the screen would be constantly awake awaiting input instead of going to sleep after a set amount of time.
Even then touchwake wouldn't work for the OP unless he let the screen time out so it still isn't what he is looking for.
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If you set the timeout to zero, then touchwake is constantly on, which is the way I've used it and there has still been no significant battery drain. I also haven't had any issue with it turning on in my pocket. I do, however, inadvertently turn it on often, which is why I wish Faux would activate his swipe2wake feature for his kernel app for the Note II. But he hasn't yet.
billku said:
If you set the timeout to zero, then touchwake is constantly on, which is the way I've used it and there has still been no significant battery drain. I also haven't had any issue with it turning on in my pocket. I do, however, inadvertently turn it on often, which is why I wish Faux would activate his swipe2wake feature for his kernel app for the Note II. But he hasn't yet.
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I'm using Plasma and the way it is set up is there is there is a time limit to how long the TouchWake feature will be active after the screen times out, if its different on Faux or any others I have no clue.
I find it hard to believe that the battery drain for it being always on isn't significant, I'm not saying you're wrong but that its hard to believe. Its constantly leaving a part of your phone awake, no deep sleep, to scan for touches.
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Certain aosp roms have it in settings to remap your hardware buttons to perform different actions including screen off/on. I agree with you. It would be nice if these features could be baked into tw sometime in the future.
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I'm running nova launcher pro and it has gesture supports so I made a setting in Tasker so when I double tap the screen it shuts off. There's also an app you can have do this called screen off and lock
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.katecca.screenofflock
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I'm using Plasma and the way it is set up is there is there is a time limit to how long the TouchWake feature will be active after the screen times out, if its different on Faux or any others I have no clue.
I find it hard to believe that the battery drain for it being always on isn't significant, I'm not saying you're wrong but that its hard to believe. Its constantly leaving a part of your phone awake, no deep sleep, to scan for touches.
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I know it's hard to believe, but I suppose the theory relates to idling a car under certain circumstances vs. turning it on and off over and over. There are instances where the former is actually more energy efficient than the latter (there are threads on XDA that discuss this theory, I can't remember where they are). Also, even though the phone isn't in deep sleep, it "idles" at a very low power usage rate. Again, for me, there is no significant drain at all. Last night, before I plugged it in to charge, the phone was at 53% after being "up" for 16 hours.
You can set any physical key to wake the device by editing gpio-keys.kl in /system/use/keylayout and putting WAKE at the end of the line.
This is how the home key wakes the device by default, you can also disable this by removing WAKE from that line.
Example:
key 114 VOLUME_DOWN WAKE
Would make the volume down button wake the phone.
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Here is a suggestion
Try using GO LOCKER and the lock screen setting add on.
Works very well on my NOTE Running Jelly Beans B20.
Plus you can juice up your lock screen.
During a call my screen turns off like normal but just recently when it turns off, I can't turn it back on even when pressing the power or home button. There are rare occasions where even when I'm not on the phone, I can't turn the screen on.. It always results in a battery pull then it works fine again. My phone was normal and working perfectly and I haven't done any mods.. Kinda weird, anyone with input on this?
I'm rooted running version 2 Jbomb, 2.3 beastmode kernel, mj4. Could it maybe be these apps that cause this, lux, gravity screen, light flow.. Those are the 3 main apps that are always running.
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vizi0nz said:
During a call my screen turns off like normal but just recently when it turns off, I can't turn it back on even when pressing the power or home button. There are rare occasions where even when I'm not on the phone, I can't turn the screen on.. It always results in a battery pull then it works fine again. My phone was normal and working perfectly and I haven't done any mods.. Kinda weird, anyone with input on this?
I'm rooted running version 2 Jbomb, 2.3 beastmode kernel, mj4. Could it maybe be these apps that cause this, lux, gravity screen, light flow.. Those are the 3 main apps that are always running.
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Sounds like you may have some gremlins. I would do a clean install of your ROM and install those 3 apps 1 at a time checking for the problem to repeat. Joshes ROMs are typically very clean. Could be the Beastmode kernel also.
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Sounds like you may have some gremlins. I would do a clean install of your ROM and install those 3 apps 1 at a time checking for the problem to repeat. Joshes ROMs are typically very clean. Could be the Beastmode kernel also.
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I'm currently trying the lean kernel.. So far it hasn't happened yet.. Hope it stays this way
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Nope. Most likely dirt in your proximity sensor. Try blowing real hard in the ear piece or use one if those air cans. Mine does the same and it sounds like a lot of people have the same issue
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I can guarantee it's. Gravity Screen. I use both Lux and Gravity Screen and I'm on a Nexus 4. Google brought me here. I was hoping I'd find something in the gravity screen thread but search isn't picking anyone talking about it.
fwiw I only use it for the Keep Screen On by motion so any the other features are unchecked.
I also use an app called screebl which is more reliable and has been around much longer but I flip between the two.
Screebl also got completely rewritten recently so I'm thinking it's probably the more reliable of the two since it's been around longer.
Aside from that I'm thinking it might be the Running During Call checkbox since it's the only other checkbox checked.
I'd disabled the other settings by moving the sliders to zero (per the developer) and unchecking everything but the 2 checkboxes for keeping screen on by motion-left its slider at 50.
...so either uncheck that ringer checkbox. If that doesn't work it's a bug with the app.
It's inherent to almost any Samsung phone. My SII did it. My S4 did it. My Note 3 does it.
It has to do with the proximity sensor changing too quickly.
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It's inherent to almost any Samsung phone. My SII did it. My S4 did it. My Note 3 does it.
It has to do with the proximity sensor changing too quickly.
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Sometimes it cuts both ways, with the rare occasion of the screen not waking up when a call comes in. If you're running deep sleep app, sometimes that can be the culprit. I still use it, though.
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Hey guys! Just got my g5 last week and have so far been loving it- fastest Android phone I've used, and a huge improvement over its horribly buggy predecessor. That being said....
I've noticed a crazy unlock delay, but only when it's right after locking it (sometimes I shut off my screen and am like "Oh wait! I totally forgot to do X). When I go to turn the screen on, it stays black for awhile, and then shows an unresponsive screen for second or so before unlocking.
Sometimes it's just an extra second, other times a good 5-10 seconds. However, if I lock the phone and leave it alone for even 20-30 seconds, the screen turns on immediately. Has anybody else run into this? Is this normal?
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Hey guys! Just got my g5 last week and have so far been loving it- fastest Android phone I've used, and a huge improvement over its horribly buggy predecessor. That being said....
I've noticed a crazy unlock delay, but only when it's right after locking it (sometimes I shut off my screen and am like "Oh wait! I totally forgot to do X). When I go to turn the screen on, it stays black for awhile, and then shows an unresponsive screen for second or so before unlocking.
Sometimes it's just an extra second, other times a good 5-10 seconds. However, if I lock the phone and leave it alone for even 20-30 seconds, the screen turns on immediately. Has anybody else run into this? Is this normal?
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I use the tap to wake feature a lot and sometimes when I tap it it doesn't do anything and I end up tapping it again and sometimes again after that. On my note 4 I used the wake lock app on it because Samsungs are known for slow wake and I'm using that app now too. It's in the play store. Now the tap to wake never fails. Granted your phone never sleeps but I like it better that way and it seems more responsive too. Could be placebo but I think I actually get better battery life with it because when you wake your phone out of deep sleep all the components are firing back up whereas here everything is always ready. Hope that helps.
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I use the tap to wake feature a lot and sometimes when I tap it it doesn't do anything and I end up tapping it again and sometimes again after that. On my note 4 I used the wake lock Hmm on it because Samsungs are known for slow wake and I'm using that app now too. It's in the play store. Now the tap to wake never fails. Granted your phone never sleeps but I like it better that way and it seems more responsive too. Could be placebo but I think I actually get better battery life with it because when you wake your phone out of deep sleep all the components are firing back up whereas here everything is always ready. Hope that helps.
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Hmm thanks for the tip I'll give it a shot! I guess I figured with the always-on display enabled that it should be able to wake pretty quickly? I do hibernate my apps with Greenify so maybe that's affecting it. But I only get like 3 hours of screen on time even when hibernating my apps.
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Hmm thanks for the tip I'll give it a shot! I guess I figured with the always-on display enabled that it should be able to wake pretty quickly? I do hibernate my apps with Greenify so maybe that's affecting it. But I only get like 3 hours of screen on time even when hibernating my apps.
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You're welcome. Yeah with that app I just set it to partial wake lock and I have no issues with it and my phone works great. Good luck!
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Sweet. Took the plunge and went for a factory reset, and it completely solved the issue. Im thinking it was Verizon's security update they pushed to my phone the night that I was setting the thing up. SO relieved
Oh wow. Made my battery life amazing too. I unplugged for 5 hours and still only at 86%
Well that's great. Waiting for sprint to drop their update and I'll probably do the same.
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