Hi Everyone:
I am so new to the development world. simple question:
I have managed to unlock the bootloader and root My HTC one.
How am I going to do software update later when AT&T release new one for the device? (I Know they are going to have the fixes for multiple bugs, like camera improvement, back and home button sensitivity issue, battery life, etc ).
will I loose the root after the update, or I can not even do update through OTA since I unlocked the bootloader?
will whatever way for the approaching wipes the data and apps?
How will it work? hope someone can answer my questions, thank you in advance!!
since you unlock the bootloader, you can not recived the OTA notification maybe.
I am in europe and I have to check for the update manually. I rooted the device and it is working fine. I tired to install the latest HTC software update (1.29.401.12) but it failed. It restarts the device and boots into TWRP.
Appreciate some insight.
babyzone2 said:
Hi Everyone:
I am so new to the development world. simple question:
I have managed to unlock the bootloader and root My HTC one.
How am I going to do software update later when AT&T release new one for the device? (I Know they are going to have the fixes for multiple bugs, like camera improvement, back and home button sensitivity issue, battery life, etc ).
will I loose the root after the update, or I can not even do update through OTA since I unlocked the bootloader?
will whatever way for the approaching wipes the data and apps?
How will it work? hope someone can answer my questions, thank you in advance!!
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I wouldn't worry about ota updates ever again. Every time an ota is released someone puts out a stock rooted rom you can flash via custom recovery.
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gunnyman said:
I wouldn't worry about ota updates ever again. Every time an ota is released someone puts out a stock rooted rom you can flash via custom recovery.
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thanks for the reply,
to this day, I still dont quite understand how the phone work when come to bootloader, recovery, custom Rom.
do you have a good artile about how they work? what are the relationship between?
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Hello,
I rooted my phone this week. T-Mobile in my country never provided an update for my T-Mobile G2. So my phone still runs on build 1.76.110.6.
I'm consider to install a custom ROM, because this firmware is really slow :-(
But If I will wait a few weeks and T-Mobile provides the 2.1 update this time, will I still have root access after the OTA update? Or will I lose the root access?
Are there any good and stable, full hardware supported custom ROMs with Android 2.1?
Or what's the best custom ROM at the moment for the HTC Hero/T-Mobile G2?
Bernd
BerndSch said:
Hello,
I rooted my phone this week. T-Mobile in my country never provided an update for my T-Mobile G2. So my phone still runs on build 1.76.110.6.
I'm consider to install a custom ROM, because this firmware is really slow :-(
But If I will wait a few weeks and T-Mobile provides the 2.1 update this time, will I still have root access after the OTA update? Or will I lose the root access?
Are there any good and stable, full hardware supported custom ROMs with Android 2.1?
Or what's the best custom ROM at the moment for the HTC Hero/T-Mobile G2?
Bernd
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1. There is an update for T-mobile - have you ever checked the HTC support page? It is still v1.5 but its an update... (will remove root)
2. 2.1 is unlikely to be released by t-mobile in the next couple of weeks, you're probably be looking at a month or so and I also don't think OTA updates are supported on your current build. Also you will NOT have root and probably won't be able to easily downgrade again to gain root access.
3. There are lots of custom roms try reading the hundreds of other posts asking which 2.1 update to use. They are all about the same stability wise and realistically speed wise too, though some vary to a very minor degree.
How exactly did you get root in the first place? Or are you talking about a recovery image installed?
btdag said:
1. There is an update for T-mobile - have you ever checked the HTC support page? It is still v1.5 but its an update... (will remove root)
2. 2.1 is unlikely to be released by t-mobile in the next couple of weeks, you're probably be looking at a month or so and I also don't think OTA updates are supported on your current build. Also you will NOT have root and probably won't be able to easily downgrade again to gain root access.
3. There are lots of custom roms try reading the hundreds of other posts asking which 2.1 update to use. They are all about the same stability wise and realistically speed wise too, though some vary to a very minor degree.
How exactly did you get root in the first place? Or are you talking about a recovery image installed?
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1) I couldn't download the official update from the HTC website, because you have to provide your serial number. And with my number I'm not allowed to download the update. Because I own an T-Mobile G2 instead of the "real" HTC Hero
2) If I install the latest update from T-Mobile/HTC I lose my root access and it could be hard to get it back again :-( That's bad
To get root on my phone I followed this tutorial:
phandroid.com/2009/08/04/how-to-gain-root-access-on-your-htc-hero/
(there are other similar tutorials out there)
BerndSch said:
1) I couldn't download the official update from the HTC website, because you have to provide your serial number. And with my number I'm not allowed to download the update. Because I own an T-Mobile G2 instead of the "real" HTC Hero
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Have you contacted them about this? The G2 is just a brand name, they are exactly the same phones as the Hero's and T-mobile doesn't actually sell any "Hero" phones just the G2. Therefore, that update is definitely for you.
Alternatively you could install the update using the exe found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Once again bear in mind that this wipes your data and will remove root and you may have a hard time getting it back.
btdag said:
Have you contacted them about this? The G2 is just a brand name, they are exactly the same phones as the Hero's and T-mobile doesn't actually sell any "Hero" phones just the G2. Therefore, that update is definitely for you.
Alternatively you could install the update using the exe found here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Once again bear in mind that this wipes your data and will remove root and you may have a hard time getting it back.
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Yes I contacted HTC and the answer was that I had to contact T-Mobile in my country. They told me that I lose the warranty if I install a update from the internet, because THEY didn't provide it.
But in other countries (e.g: Germany) T-Mobile provides this update.
So what should I do now? What's the best solution? Install an official HTC update and lose root access or install on of the custom ROMs out there?
My friend, welcome to the dark side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684654
2.1 ROM, super duper quick, backup your apps via titanium back, then restore once you have flashed the new ROM. Maybe a good idea to backup messages etc if you want them
akhtar1817 said:
My friend, welcome to the dark side:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684654
2.1 ROM, super duper quick, backup your apps via titanium back, then restore once you have flashed the new ROM. Maybe a good idea to backup messages etc if you want them
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Should I install Nandroid before flashing?
At the moment I "only" have root access and not installed any additional boot loader or other software/firmware.
Would like to try your suggested ROM (Cronos Droid Version 1.3). Do I have to wipe my sd card to install this ROM?
And do you run the Non Overclocked or the Overclocked version?
I have a qeuestion regarding these OTA Updates
[*]My Hero is from Orange UK. But as of now, I m running SuperHero in it. So is it necessary to go back to the stock ROM to get the updates through OTA. Or is it enough to be connected.?
What for the official 2.1 release you mean? If you update you're unlikely to ever get it rooted again (though i'm sure someone will do it in time). But you'll be stuck on 2.1 til HTC update it (unlikely). If I were you i'd just wait for the updates to come from the community.
If you're talking about SuperHero OTA updates just run hte villainrom updater...
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What for the official 2.1 release you mean? If you update you're unlikely to ever get it rooted again (though i'm sure someone will do it in time). But you'll be stuck on 2.1 til HTC update it (unlikely). If I were you i'd just wait for the updates to come from the community.
If you're talking about SuperHero OTA updates just run hte villainrom updater...
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Thanks for the reply. And sorry for being not so clear. Yes, I was referring to Official OTA updates.
Just wanted know whether we have on the orange network or is it suffice if we connected to Internet.?
harsha_aithal said:
I have a qeuestion regarding these OTA Updates
[*]My Hero is from Orange UK. But as of now, I m running SuperHero in it. So is it necessary to go back to the stock ROM to get the updates through OTA. Or is it enough to be connected.?
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If you wanted the official Orange update (presuming it did come OTA), then you would need to be running the official ROM.
SuperHero is gonna be getting an update though which will make it more like the official ROM
I'd strongly advise not to install any stock update, as that will include a new SPL, which will try to prevent you rooting again. Stick with a custom ROM for now, and then you'll be able to grab a 'safe' copy of the final ROM from a dev over here when it's available. That way, you get a final copy but you also keep root.
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If you wanted the official Orange update (presuming it did come OTA), then you would need to be running the official ROM.
SuperHero is gonna be getting an update though which will make it more like the official ROM
I'd strongly advise not to install any stock update, as that will include a new SPL, which will try to prevent you rooting again. Stick with a custom ROM for now, and then you'll be able to grab a 'safe' copy of the final ROM from a dev over here when it's available. That way, you get a final copy but you also keep root.
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Thanks fella. Much appreciated. I am very well aware of the effects of the official ROM Update. I bought my Hero from Orange UK, then I unlocked it and I am using it in India now. So was curious and confused regarding the update. The only thing which custom 2.1 ROMs didn't give me is a 'working exchange sync'. Each time I tried to sync it gives me an error caused by security certs. So I m still relied upon my Black berry for my official emails.
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you would need to be running the official ROM.
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is rather shcoking as I m not able imagine going back to 1.5
Hi!
Im proudly owner of motorola milestone. It was great phone with blocked bootloader, but I'm old and I had in my live some "normal phone" so I didnt cry about locked BL. I simply dont need unlocked BL because in time when I play with Stone We had a lot of rom by recovery.
But from time when I made some weird things took a lot time and a lot of things change in new smartphones so I have some questions for You.
1) On milestrone I could without problems update 2.1>2.2 and downgrade it to 2.1 with official sbf, and I know Atrix has official update from 2.2 to 2.3. I still can make this without problems? (from 2.2>2.3>2.2 and other ways...)
1a) I saw news about update to ICS, and it Was on motorola page (forgot which one). It will be in this year? (official q3 2012)
2)Do I need to unlock BL to use "roms" from recovery? Or I need recovery only?
(like neutrino / cm7)
3) I will not use any of atrix accessories, it will be for me mp3 player, phone and maybe sometimes game console. I still need to unlock BL? And if yes, for what?
3a) when we are speaking about games, every rom fully support tegra?
4) Is something what I need to know about atrix 4g before I will purchase it?
5) Can any user of this phone who live in germany tell me what about using germany mobile network?
sorry for lame questions and thanks for answers
Aesandar said:
Hi!
Im proudly owner of motorola milestone. It was great phone with blocked bootloader, but I'm old and I had in my live some "normal phone" so I didnt cry about locked BL. I simply dont need unlocked BL because in time when I play with Stone We had a lot of rom by recovery.
But from time when I made some weird things took a lot time and a lot of things change in new smartphones so I have some questions for You.
1) On milestrone I could without problems update 2.1>2.2 and downgrade it to 2.1 with official sbf, and I know Atrix has official update from 2.2 to 2.3. I still can make this without problems? (from 2.2>2.3>2.2 and other ways...)
1a) I saw news about update to ICS, and it Was on motorola page (forgot which one). It will be in this year? (official q3 2012)
2)Do I need to unlock BL to use "roms" from recovery? Or I need recovery only?
(like neutrino / cm7)
3) I will not use any of atrix accessories, it will be for me mp3 player, phone and maybe sometimes game console. I still need to unlock BL? And if yes, for what?
3a) when we are speaking about games, every rom fully support tegra?
4) Is something what I need to know about atrix 4g before I will purchase it?
5) Can any user of this phone who live in germany tell me what about using germany mobile network?
sorry for lame questions and thanks for answers
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1. No. Due to bootloader changes between 2.2 and 2.3 you can't just use an sbf. You can however flash a fruitcake which is just a copy of the boot and system partitions. Doesn't do anything to the bootloader. Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this and you will need to flash a customer recovery program such as CWM. However, you can use an sbf if you are going between the same version without unlocking the bootloader. Example 2.3.4 to 2.3.4.
1a. Yes. We will should be seeing an ICS upgrade anytime from now to September.
2. Your bootloader will need to be unlocked and a custom recovery will need to be flashed.
3. If that's all your planning to use it for then there really isn't a reason you will need to unlock the bootloader.
3a. Every rom should as far as I know.
4. Some people report that the battery gets quite hot and causes problems. I'm lucky to say that I've had the phone for over a year and haven't had an issues.
5. Sorry, can't help you with question 5, but I hope I was able to answer the rest of your questions.
so without unlock bootloader I cant use custom recovery? In my MM I have recovery and from this recovery I can start "custom" and from this custom I can recover roms...
And what about update from 2.2 > 2.3, when moto release 2.3 for atrix it should be possible to update it without unlock bootloader? Only with OTA?
For god sake, why everyone are making us soooo much problems about custom OS... This is my phone and I should make with it what I want...
Aesandar said:
so without unlock bootloader I cant use custom recovery? In my MM I have recovery and from this recovery I can start "custom" and from this custom I can recover roms...
And what about update from 2.2 > 2.3, when moto release 2.3 for atrix it should be possible to update it without unlock bootloader? Only with OTA?
For god sake, why everyone are making us soooo much problems about custom OS... This is my phone and I should make with it what I want...
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If you are planning on flashing custom roms you will need the bootloader unlocked. Going from 2.2 to 2.3 you don't need an unlocked bootloader. You should be able to either use the OTA option, the sd card option, or the update program from moto via the pc.
On my note 2 I accepted the OTA update and some how I rooted it with the OTA Root keeper. Evertything works fine but I cannot install custom recovery. What woould be the best way to unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery now.
I also have galaxy s3 and droid bionic both are rooted and custom roms installed and working great.
I have been with Verizon 16 years and it's abuot time to change but I think there all the same anymore $$$
If you took the ota then you can not unlock your bootloader as of this time.
why on earth are folks so hell bent on ota's???? fyi when you buy a device that came locked but was unlocked by devs at xda, YOU NEVER EXCEPT ANY OTA! It has been posted all over this forum...please research before you do anything!!
Totally agree! I won't even update an app until I know what the changes are, and even then I usually wait to see if any issues arise with the update.
Doesn't matter how many times you warn people no to install an OTA because it has a bootloader, someone won't listen.
I would never consider taking a ota until after our devs have a chance to check it out. Besides if you run a custom rom your developer will most likely be updating to the new build and you know you can safely flash it.
Besides I know verizon is more worried about blocking crap than they are on their real updates.
Forget the security update and give us official 4.1.2 screw verizon! Verizon ota usually means bad things.
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I would never consider taking a ota until after our devs have a chance to check it out. Besides if you run a custom rom your developer will most likely be updating to the new build and you know you can safely flash it.
Besides I know verizon is more worried about blocking crap than they are on their real updates.
Forget the security update and give us official 4.1.2 screw verizon! Verizon ota usually means bad things.
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4.1.2 has very little to offer us.
adrynalyne said:
4.1.2 has very little to offer us.
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I agree with that. However my point was instead of Verizon spending their time improving their devices they would rather spend their money and time trying to figure out how to screw us. I know 4.1.2 brings little to the table but maybe if they were not working on locking the bootloader they could improve on the builds instead. I would still rather have 4.1.1 over 4.2.1 any day.
Hey guys! I'm currently running VRUAMDK. I don’t have a custom rom…I’m just rooted. I rooted to get rid of ads and so on. I would like to unroot my phone since there has been a couple updates since I rooted. The last update you guys told me how to make the phone such that it wouldn’t ask me to update again. I’d like to reverse this along with unrooting.
My goal is to have the latest updates and 4.3 that is rolling out soon. To do that I think I’ll need to unroot. I don’t want to do a reset though because I have some custom apps on my phone using tasker that I really don’t want to recreate.
How do I go about doing this?
Thanks guys!
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jmed999 said:
Hey guys! I'm currently running VRUAMDK. I don’t have a custom rom…I’m just rooted. I rooted to get rid of ads and so on. I would like to unroot my phone since there has been a couple updates since I rooted. The last update you guys told me how to make the phone such that it wouldn’t ask me to update again. I’d like to reverse this along with unrooting.
My goal is to have the latest updates and 4.3 that is rolling out soon. To do that I think I’ll need to unroot. I don’t want to do a reset though because I have some custom apps on my phone using tasker that I really don’t want to recreate.
How do I go about doing this?
Thanks guys!
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Wait for a stock based ROM, then flash it.
If you really want a MI1 phone and your's is black I'll trade.