Hi!
Im proudly owner of motorola milestone. It was great phone with blocked bootloader, but I'm old and I had in my live some "normal phone" so I didnt cry about locked BL. I simply dont need unlocked BL because in time when I play with Stone We had a lot of rom by recovery.
But from time when I made some weird things took a lot time and a lot of things change in new smartphones so I have some questions for You.
1) On milestrone I could without problems update 2.1>2.2 and downgrade it to 2.1 with official sbf, and I know Atrix has official update from 2.2 to 2.3. I still can make this without problems? (from 2.2>2.3>2.2 and other ways...)
1a) I saw news about update to ICS, and it Was on motorola page (forgot which one). It will be in this year? (official q3 2012)
2)Do I need to unlock BL to use "roms" from recovery? Or I need recovery only?
(like neutrino / cm7)
3) I will not use any of atrix accessories, it will be for me mp3 player, phone and maybe sometimes game console. I still need to unlock BL? And if yes, for what?
3a) when we are speaking about games, every rom fully support tegra?
4) Is something what I need to know about atrix 4g before I will purchase it?
5) Can any user of this phone who live in germany tell me what about using germany mobile network?
sorry for lame questions and thanks for answers
Aesandar said:
Hi!
Im proudly owner of motorola milestone. It was great phone with blocked bootloader, but I'm old and I had in my live some "normal phone" so I didnt cry about locked BL. I simply dont need unlocked BL because in time when I play with Stone We had a lot of rom by recovery.
But from time when I made some weird things took a lot time and a lot of things change in new smartphones so I have some questions for You.
1) On milestrone I could without problems update 2.1>2.2 and downgrade it to 2.1 with official sbf, and I know Atrix has official update from 2.2 to 2.3. I still can make this without problems? (from 2.2>2.3>2.2 and other ways...)
1a) I saw news about update to ICS, and it Was on motorola page (forgot which one). It will be in this year? (official q3 2012)
2)Do I need to unlock BL to use "roms" from recovery? Or I need recovery only?
(like neutrino / cm7)
3) I will not use any of atrix accessories, it will be for me mp3 player, phone and maybe sometimes game console. I still need to unlock BL? And if yes, for what?
3a) when we are speaking about games, every rom fully support tegra?
4) Is something what I need to know about atrix 4g before I will purchase it?
5) Can any user of this phone who live in germany tell me what about using germany mobile network?
sorry for lame questions and thanks for answers
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1. No. Due to bootloader changes between 2.2 and 2.3 you can't just use an sbf. You can however flash a fruitcake which is just a copy of the boot and system partitions. Doesn't do anything to the bootloader. Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this and you will need to flash a customer recovery program such as CWM. However, you can use an sbf if you are going between the same version without unlocking the bootloader. Example 2.3.4 to 2.3.4.
1a. Yes. We will should be seeing an ICS upgrade anytime from now to September.
2. Your bootloader will need to be unlocked and a custom recovery will need to be flashed.
3. If that's all your planning to use it for then there really isn't a reason you will need to unlock the bootloader.
3a. Every rom should as far as I know.
4. Some people report that the battery gets quite hot and causes problems. I'm lucky to say that I've had the phone for over a year and haven't had an issues.
5. Sorry, can't help you with question 5, but I hope I was able to answer the rest of your questions.
so without unlock bootloader I cant use custom recovery? In my MM I have recovery and from this recovery I can start "custom" and from this custom I can recover roms...
And what about update from 2.2 > 2.3, when moto release 2.3 for atrix it should be possible to update it without unlock bootloader? Only with OTA?
For god sake, why everyone are making us soooo much problems about custom OS... This is my phone and I should make with it what I want...
Aesandar said:
so without unlock bootloader I cant use custom recovery? In my MM I have recovery and from this recovery I can start "custom" and from this custom I can recover roms...
And what about update from 2.2 > 2.3, when moto release 2.3 for atrix it should be possible to update it without unlock bootloader? Only with OTA?
For god sake, why everyone are making us soooo much problems about custom OS... This is my phone and I should make with it what I want...
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If you are planning on flashing custom roms you will need the bootloader unlocked. Going from 2.2 to 2.3 you don't need an unlocked bootloader. You should be able to either use the OTA option, the sd card option, or the update program from moto via the pc.
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Hi there,
I have an Atrix, carrier unlocked phone on the Rogers network running froyo. I would like to upgrade to the latest gingerbread firmware available on the Motorola website. I have a couple questions before I attempt this:
1. Dose it matter which carrier firmware I use, the AT&T or the Bell? If so how do I know which is the correct one to use? Since I bought the carrier unlocked phone off ebay it could be either an AT&T or a Bell.
2. Will the carrier unlock survive the firmware upgrade? Or am I going to have to get my hands on an other unlock code or something?
3. I am thinking about getting a dock so I can use the webtop thing. I have read that there is limits on the webtop based on your data plan. Is there something that needs to be modified to have this work or does the unlocked carrier bypass any of the these restrictions an allow the webtop to work?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Thanks
74corvette said:
Hi there,
I have an Atrix, carrier unlocked phone on the Rogers network running froyo. I would like to upgrade to the latest gingerbread firmware available on the Motorola website. I have a couple questions before I attempt this:
1. Dose it matter which carrier firmware I use, the AT&T or the Bell? If so how do I know which is the correct one to use? Since I bought the carrier unlocked phone off ebay it could be either an AT&T or a Bell.
2. Will the carrier unlock survive the firmware upgrade? Or am I going to have to get my hands on an other unlock code or something?
3. I am thinking about getting a dock so I can use the webtop thing. I have read that there is limits on the webtop based on your data plan. Is there something that needs to be modified to have this work or does the unlocked carrier bypass any of the these restrictions an allow the webtop to work?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Thanks
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1) yes it matters. How did you plan on updating? To check what firmware you are on go to settings about phone
2)yes the unlock should survive it gas to do with the sim.
3)The limits for webtop have to do with AT&T and their limits on tethering
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Thanks for your response. As for the update I was planning on following the instructions on the Motorola website. Copy the firmware file to the SD card and then select system upgrade.
yeah i dont think that will be a problem, just check what firmware you have
BUT i would reccomend using a custom ROM
Reasons
-they are based off motorolas firmware and are very stable
-tweaked to give better performance
-are deodexed. meaning you can apply themes to your hearts content and really personalize your phone
Hi marko! thanks for your help on this. What rom would you recommend? I am looking for stability and speed, over themeing and customization.
74corvette said:
Hi marko! thanks for your help on this. What rom would you recommend? I am looking for stability and speed, over themeing and customization.
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After having tried them all, Nottach's DarkSide is the fastest & most stable. Also ext4. Make sure you do a fastboot wipe before you install it so that you start on a clean system!
Happy flashing!
You don't have an update available via OTA yet?...
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So after doing some reading and poking around in the dev forum I think I am going to not bother with the stock Motorola firmware and go straight into a custom rom as you guys have suggested. I have a couple quick questions first, and would appreciate any guidance on the best, safest and easiest way to do this. I have read through the, noob and flashing threads but I can’t seem to find a definitive answer to this.
So since I am running stock froyo, is the install as simple as unlock bootloader, root phone and load on romracers CWM and flash away? Or do I need to worry about gingerbread bootloaders? My understanding is not all roms have bootloaders in them.
OR do I use RSD lite and loaded on the stock 2.3.4, unlocked .sbf file, root phone and load romracers CWM and flash. Which I think this method you can no longer go back to froyo, if need be for whatever reason.
I would prefer to keep the froyo option open, but I am not married to it. Plus I would prefer to do this not using RSD lite as I have had some bad experiences in the past flashing my Samsung cappy with the PC program odin.
Thanks again for your help.
Hi all,
I'm quite new to the sony and android scene. My iphone 3GS broke down a while ago (actually I dropped it ) and I had it replaced by a Mini Pro.
I'm on the stock 2.3.4 rom and would like to test the miui version on this forum.
So, my question is simple: I need to unlock the bootloader to install a custom rom.
Can I revert to a stock rom (or upgrade to the new upcoming ics stock version) without loosing DRM etc?
And what's the procedure to do so?
you will have to follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285 that is the only way to unlock it without losing drm and the ability to officially update.
Looks quite scary stuff to me. Coming from a jailbroken iphone, it looks like this is a bit trickier. Thank you for the reply though
Another small question then: can I still upgrade to a stock rom version if I have unlocked the bootloader? (via an unofficial way that is)
yes you can, but if you unlock your bootloader the official way you are not going to be able to update using sony software.
and yeah it looks scary but it is easier than it looks.
Great, thanks for the info. I'll search around the forum for the unofficial unlock mechanisms and will have a try with them!
jvdv360 said:
Great, thanks for the info. I'll search around the forum for the unofficial unlock mechanisms and will have a try with them!
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well the only unofficial way is by test point (the link i posted before) but it's good to hear you want to search anything else let me know!
hi guys,
I've been reading a lot these days, before my x10 mini arrives and I noticed threads are kind of outdated for new (newb) owners like.
Anyway I have my share of experience modding phones so I believe I've collected all necessary tools to achieve a clean cm7 install-
Thing is, supposedly the new phone will be an unlocked 1.6, so I'm wondering if this implies an unlocked bootleader or should I do it anyway-
Should I still try a S1TOOL run? (only after SEMC SIMLOCK CERTIFICATE I know)
Should I upgrade from 16. to 2.1 trough SEUS?
Should I flashtool the 11 naa kernel then?
I guess my question would be if it's actually a direct way to reflash cm7-
Anyway thanks a lot in advance, it's a great forum and I have a lot to learn
regards,
moncho
s1 tool - to make sure you can unlock your boot loader safely
upgrade to 2.1 - required
flastool - no yet.
things to do.
1. update to 2.1
2. make sure the base band is compatible
3. root phone - via super one click (highly suggested)
4. make sure phone can be safely unlocked via s1 tool
5. unlock boot loader
6. flash custom kernel
7. flash custom rom
your phone is actually sim unlocked and does not neccessarily means that the boot loader is unlocked.
btw welcome to xda
just wanted to say I've installed cm 2.2 and it's working flawlessly, thank you developers for your hard work---
Hey all,
I haven't updated my MoPho since I got it, and was wondering what the benefits would be if I were to update to some of the stuff we have available now. Back when I got my phone, you couldn't change the boot loader without losing 4G.
Currently, I basically just have a rooted MoPho with System version: 45.3.5.MB855.Sprint.en.US
I also noticed in the MoPho Android Development subforum that there are some ICS and Jellybean CyanogenMods available.
Would I be able to update to System version: 45.3.7.MB855.Sprint.en.US safely and still be able to flash to a CyanogenMod? (If not, can I update to 45.3.6?)
If I can flash to a CyanogenMod, would you suggest I flash to C9 or C10? Is there are particular poster's mod I should use?
Thanks guys.
Edit: Was looking at the !!!LOOK HERE FIRST!!!! thread, I noticed I am not sure what Kernal I am running. I assume I'd have to update this as well? Where would I check what kernal I have?
Unlocking the boot loader unfortunately will still kill 4g, so if you make use of 4g and feel its necessary, you won't want to unlock. Also, if you have taken the most recent over the air update from moto (check in about phone and see if android version is 2.3.5) you won't be able to unlock. If you don't need 4g and are on 2.3.4, then unlocking and installing CM will unlock so much more potential of your phone it'll blow your mind. To install CM, you'll need to do the following:
1) Unlock your boot loader
2) Install CWM recovery
3) Install cyanogenmod or another rom
There are howtos for each of these all around the forum. As well as stepbystep videos on YouTube by qbking77. If you get hung up somewhere well help you out.
Hey people, I just bought a new Atrix a week ago. It came with "4.4.20.MB860.O2.en.DE" (fw 2.2.2)rom. I found on the internet that it should be possible to update to 2.3.4. But when I try to do the OTA update it says that my system is up to date. So, Is it possible to update my phone to 2.3.4? How? I found a rom called "1FF-olympus_emara-user-2.3.4-4.5.2A-74_OLE-31-release-keys-signed-rtdach.sbf" but Im aware of flashing it with RSD, is there some other way to do that?
PS: I have not roted or unlocked bootloader my Atrix yet..
Thanks everyone!
Maathy said:
Hey people, I just bought a new Atrix a week ago. It came with "4.4.20.MB860.O2.en.DE" (fw 2.2.2)rom. I found on the internet that it should be possible to update to 2.3.4. But when I try to do the OTA update it says that my system is up to date. So, Is it possible to update my phone to 2.3.4? How? I found a rom called "1FF-olympus_emara-user-2.3.4-4.5.2A-74_OLE-31-release-keys-signed-rtdach.sbf" but Im aware of flashing it with RSD, is there some other way to do that?
PS: I have not roted or unlocked bootloader my Atrix yet..
Thanks everyone!
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If you want to upgrade i would recommend to unlock the bootloader and flash some GB based rom like Nottachtrix 1.3.1, those ones are the stock rom but enhaced I'm running right now Nottachtrix because i want everything working.
Otherwise you can get Neutrino, it's an excellent rom too.
About the sbf with RSD, you need to flash the correct sbf otherwise you will get the "failed to boot", so if you are not sure if it is for your phone, don't do it, take the safe way.
Im not sure pretty much about anything since all tutorials, files, etc.. are made for 2.3.4.. I found this post about rooting the Atrix. Should it work? And another stupid questions. Custom ROMs are installed using CWM recovery right? And is it possible to make a backup of my actual rom for applying waranty in the future? And about that sbf im pretty sure that it should work, but I want to hear that from someone that already did that. I just do not want to brick my phone after week of using..
Thanks! M.